Where We Unravel Faith, Politics, and Culture.
As part of The New Evangelical’s network, The Tim and April Show explores faith, politics, and culture from a Christian worldview rooted in love, justice, and inclusivity. Hosted by Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy.
The New Evangelicals is a digital-first 501(c)(3) nonprofit committed to creating a better path forward at the intersection of faith, politics, and culture. Through educational resources and inclusive community spaces, we empower people to reject Christian Nationalism and boldly advocate for their neighbors while holding onto a faith rooted in the way of Jesus: with love, justice, and compassion for all.
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139. Mega Church Pastor Josh Howerton's Unhinged Take on Politics
Tuesday, September 1, 2026 • Duration 56:23
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy analyze a controversial debate clip featuring Allie Stuckey and Josh Howerton, discussing topics like secularism, abortion, and Christian voting ethics. They explore how religious and political rhetoric intertwine, exposing inconsistencies and underlying motives.
Chapters:
3:09 — Introducing the clip and Ali Stuckey / Josh Howerton context
7:27 — Ali’s “neutral secular ideology” claim
9:55 — Debating Psalm 139 and biblical interpretation
20:30 — “You can’t legislate morality” and abortion politics
31:29 — Josh Howerton on what a vote is and is not
43:07 — The strategic vote / “best available path forward”
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138. We’re Back (Almost): Enjoy Some of Our Favorite Clips
Friday, August 28, 2026 • Duration 27:49
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137. Identity After Deconstruction
Thursday, August 20, 2026 • Duration 53:17
In today's special Episode, guest hosts Tamice Spencer-Helms (Black Modern Mystic), Ciarra Jones, and Brian Recker explore their journeys of faith, deconstruction, and reconstruction, challenging traditional views of God, Jesus, and church. They share personal stories, critique religious doctrines, and envision a more inclusive spirituality rooted in love and justice.
Chapters
03:54 Discussion of Calvinism, Christian hedonism, and faith shifts
13:11 How beliefs about God and Jesus evolve through deconstruction
22:07 The social construction of God and redefining divine language
29:05 The significance of Hush Harbors and black spiritual spaces
33:05 The role of nature and liberation in faith and history
39:09 The ongoing process of faith reconstruction and love for God
45:03 The importance of community, justice, and inclusive spirituality
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136. The Doug WIlson to Andrew Tate Pipeline
Thursday, August 13, 2026 • Duration 55:38
In today's special Episode, guest hosts Tamice Spencer-Helms (Black Modern Mystic), Ciarra Jones, and Brian Recker take over the Tim and April Show to dig into Christian nationalism and masculinity — starting with Doug Wilson's case for repealing women's suffrage and "household voting," then tracing how a hyper-masculinized, muscle-bound Jesus shows up from Mark Driscoll's early-2000s "UFC prize fighter Jesus" through pastor Martin Iscara's viral "Jesus had a six-pack" clip, and landing on Pete Hegseth's Pentagon testosterone-testing policy.
Chapters:
01:20 Weekend catch-up, Andrew Tate's arrest, and the capri-pants discourse
06:18 Setting up the topic: Pete Hegseth as the face of Christian-nationalist masculinity
10:58 Doug Wilson clip: repealing the 19th Amendment and "household voting"
12:56 Reaction: complementarianism, "equal in value, different in roles," and who actually holds the power
20:07 Natural law theology, white supremacy needing a "pole," and who's on the underside of the theology
34:15 Mark Driscoll's "UFC prize fighter Jesus" and the Book of Revelation sword imagery
39:49 Hegseth's testosterone-testing policy and the Jesse Watters reaction clip
47:37 Closing: what queerness has taught the hosts about healthy masculinity
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This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!
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135. We Took Over the Tim and April Show: Let's Talk About...
Thursday, August 6, 2026 • Duration 57:18
In today's special Episode, guest hosts Tamice Spencer-Helms (Black Modern Mystic), Ciarra Jones, and Brian Recker take over to explore the complex intersections of faith, politics, white supremacy, and how death and grief are politicized within evangelical communities. They challenge traditional narratives and call for honest reflection on the role of theology in perpetuating systemic injustice.
Chapters
02:09 The Role of White Supremacy in Evangelical Death Narratives
06:02 Theological Roots of Violence and White Supremacy
10:13 Deconstructing the Narrative of Principled Politicians
20:07 The Call for Prophetic Truth-Telling
26:03 The Role of Faith in Justice and Liberation
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!
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134. The Story of Nolan Wells Why Ignoring American history dooms us to Repeat it
Friday, July 31, 2026 • Duration 01:05:57
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and guest host Malynda Hale discuss the recent case of Nolan Wells, the state of American politics, the influence of evangelical support for Trump, and the pervasive issues of racism and white supremacy in the country. They also explore the challenges faced by Black communities and the importance of confronting systemic injustice.
Chapters
02:09 Discussion of Nolan Wells case and recent developments
08:09 Evangelical support for Trump and its implications
20:10 The influence of social media and post-literate society on politics
39:48 The role of faith, church, and community in social justice
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!
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133. Erika Kirk is Indoctrinating Youth into Christian Nationalism
Tuesday, July 28, 2026 • Duration 01:12:33
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy critically examines Erica Kirk's speech at the Turning Point USA Chapter Leadership Summit, highlighting the ideological messages, rhetorical strategies, and underlying motives. We explore how faith, politics, and culture intersect in conservative youth movements and the implications for young people's worldview.
Chapters
02:00 Erica Kirk's background and role in TPUSA
11:57 Marriage, gender roles, and family values
20:12 The influence of Christian nationalism on youth
23:47 The concept of spiritual warfare and activism
32:04 Implications for young people's worldview
43:50 Reflections on faith, love, and justice
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!
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132. World Cup and 2020 Election Lies: Trump is a Sore Loser
Friday, July 24, 2026 • Duration 01:24:32
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy analyze recent political events, debunk election fraud claims, discuss military spending, and explore the influence of Christian nationalism. They aim to inform and empower listeners with factual insights and practical actions.
Chapters
04:39 Highlights from the World Cup and Trump’s Stage Presence
09:36 Trump’s False Claims About the 2020 Election and Foreign Interference
12:03 Fact-Checking Trump’s Election Fraud Allegations
26:57 Lack of Evidence for Election System Vulnerabilities
37:33 Analysis of Recent Defense Bills and Military Spending
54:21 The Role of Christian Nationalism in Supporting War Policies
01:14:03 The Influence of Religious Beliefs on Politics
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!
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131. The Christian Nationalist War on Education
Tuesday, July 21, 2026 • Duration 45:23
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy delve into the history and current state of the war on education driven by Christian nationalism. They explore how religious influence is shaping curriculum, policies, and the broader cultural landscape in the United States.
Chapters
02:20 Historical roots of the war on education and key figures
07:33 Radical voices advocating for Judeo-Christian revolution
13:15 First Amendment rights and religious expression in schools
20:04 Texas law requiring Bible passages in curriculum
32:23 Legislation in Utah and the teaching of the Bible
38:50 The importance of critical thinking and awareness in education
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The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.
This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!
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130. You Cannot Follow Jesus and Support ICE. Full Stop
Friday, July 17, 2026 • Duration 01:14:25
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy delve into pressing social issues including recent acts of violence, the role of rhetoric in inciting hate, and the troubling actions of ICE. They also explore the intersection of faith, politics, and morality, emphasizing the need for accountability and compassion.
Chapters
01:49 Discussion of recent TV shows and personal favorites
07:54 The rise in hate crimes and Islamophobia
14:05 Recent shootings involving ICE and their consequences
29:45 Personal stories and the human impact of immigration policies
50:12 The political and moral failures of current immigration enforcement
01:07:51 Closing remarks and community engagement
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This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com
We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!
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