The Swashbuckling Ladies Debate Society – Details, episodes & analysis

Season 5, Episode 3: “Dreamboat”, was written, directed and edited by Kyle Olson. Starring Amy Shaw as Zinnia, Anastasia Plumb as Saffron, and Kara Gallo as Goldie. Our theme song is written and performed by Hedley Knights and our interstitial music is ‘Intended Force’ by Kevin MacLeod. 

Make sure to follow us on Instagram @OxAndHare so you won’t miss the next thrilling adventure. The Swashbuckling Ladies Debate Society is a Ox and Hare Media production. Old format, new ideas.

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Love By The Book was written, directed and edited by Kyle Olson. Starring Amy Shaw as Zinnia, Anastasia Plumb as Saffron, Kara Gallo as Goldie and Krissy Lenz as Maxine. Our theme song was written and performed by Hedley Knights and our interstitial music is "Intended Force" by Kevin MacLeod . 

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Season 4, Episode 4: “My Life Is Like Broken Glass” was written, directed and edited by Kyle Olson, our Producer and Sound Designer is that host with the most Ryan FitzPatrick. Our talent wrangler is that life of the party known as Brooke Underveith. Starring Amy Shaw as Zinnia, Anastasia Plumb as Saffron, Kara Gallo as Goldie, Shelly Trujillo as Bella, Krissy Lenz as Lady Voss and Christopher Soucy & Justin Kent as George & Marshall. Our theme song is written and performed by Hedley Knights and our interstitial music is ‘Intended Force’ by Kevin Macleod. Make sure to follow us on Instagram @OxAndHare so you won’t miss the next thrilling adventure. The Swashbuckling Ladies Debate Society is a Ox and Hare Media production. Old format, new ideas. 

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Season 4, Episode 3: “Could Have Missed The Pain” was written, directed and edited by Kyle Olson, our Producer and Sound Designer is that heart stopping hoofer Ryan FitzPatrick. Our toe tapping talent wrangler is Brooke Underveith. Starring Amy Shaw as Zinnia, Anastasia Plumb as Saffron, Kara Gallo as Goldie, Shelly Trujillo as Bella, Dolores Mendoza as Adassa, Justin Kent as Thomas and Krissy Lenz as Lady Voss. Our theme song is written and performed by Hedley Knights and our interstitial music is ‘Intended Force’ by Kevin Macleod. Make sure to follow us on Instagram @OxAndHare so you won’t miss the next thrilling adventure. The Swashbuckling Ladies Debate Society is a Ox and Hare Media production. Old format, new ideas. 

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Season Four, Episode Two: “Straddle The Line In Discord And Rhyme” was written, directed and edited by Kyle Olson, our Producer and Sound Designer is that daydream believer Ryan FitzPatrick. Enjoying a pleasant valley Sunday is our talent wrangler Brooke Underveith. Starring Amy Shaw as Zinnia, Anastasia Plumb as Saffron, Kara Gallo as Goldie, Shelly Trujillo as Bella, Puneet Bajwa as Carmin Crimson and Krissy Lenz as Lady Voss. Our theme song is written and performed by Hedley Knights and our interstitial music is ‘Intended Force’ by Kevin Macleod. Make sure to follow us on Instagram @OxAndHare so you won’t miss the next thrilling adventure. The Swashbuckling Ladies Debate Society is a Ox and Hare Media production. Old format, new ideas. 

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Season Four, Episode One: “Don’t Know If I’m Ever Coming Home” was written, directed and edited by Kyle Olson, our Producer and Sound Designer is that daydream believer Ryan FitzPatrick. Enjoying a pleasant valley Sunday is our talent wrangler Brooke Underveith. Starring Amy Shaw as Zinnia, Anastasia Plumb as Saffron, Kara Gallo as Goldie, Shelly Trujillo as Bella, and Krissy Lenz as Lady Voss. Our theme song is written and performed by Hedley Knights and our interstitial music is ‘Intended Force’ by Kevin Macleod. Make sure to follow us on Instagram @OxAndHare so you won’t miss the next thrilling adventure. The Swashbuckling Ladies Debate Society is an Ox and Hare Media production. Old format, new ideas

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The Swashbuckling Ladies are back for season 4. They wanted to head out on a trip, but something keeps holding them back. What will be the breaking point? Our Season Four Prelude: “Love Me, And Mend”, was written, directed and edited by Kyle Olson, our Producer and Sound Designer is Ryan FitzPatrick. Our talent wrangler is Brooke Underveith. Starring Amy Shaw as Zinnia, Anastasia Plumb as Saffron, and Kara Gallo as Goldie. Our theme song is written and performed by Hedley Knights and our interstitial music is ‘Intended Force’ by Kevin Macleod. Make sure to follow us on Instagram @OxAndHare so you won’t miss the next thrilling adventure. The Swashbuckling Ladies Debate Society is a Ox and Hare Media production. Old format, new ideas. 

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Author’s Notes

For the never-to-be-performed live show (what became the Valentine’s trilogy), I needed someone from outside the circle to be delivering supplies to them, so I could set up that there was a second Zinnia out there. I have a couple of actors who are easy to get ahold of and can turn in quality voice recordings in a timely manner. Krissy is on that very short list. She’s crazy busy with her own team but still manages to squeeze me in.

It’s a little-to-nothing role, so I said just give me something fun. She came back with this Edie McClurg voice out of nowhere that so delighted me that I had to put her in. And that was that. Or so I thought.

When the time came to do the Mini Series, I started thinking about Mrs. Du Mer. How did she come to be in Massalia? When did she meet the Ladies? And what would make her an interesting lead? The concept I came up with and pitched to Krissy was: imagine Harley Quinn at 60 years old.

And Dolores is a rock star. She had just been a jilted Russian, she’s got a major role for us on the horizon, so I was sort of keeping her in reserve until that point. But the more Viviana developed, the more I knew I needed a seasoned pro to hold her own against Krissy. Luckily she was able to squeeze it in before she stepped up to the director’s chair for a theater group.

The recording session was one of the best I’ve ever been involved in. The rehearsal had the hairs on my arms standing up! Afterward, I realized I wasn’t ready to say goodbye to these characters just yet. There’s more of their story yet to be told.

Oh, and the title? Of course, it’s from Moana. Lin-Manuel, the heir apparent to Howard Ashman in the Disney legacy. A heroine who chooses compassion instead of battle? That’s a very Swashbuckling ideal that we connect with.

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Author’s Notes

And so we learn a bit more about our two heroines. I don’t know if I’m good at these scenes, but in watching the structure of most western narratives, there seems always to be this type of scene. In a quiet moment, people lay out their origin stories to each other. Even in James Gunn’s The Suicide Squad, they almost go around the room (well, bus) and do it. It seems so inelegant to me, but the genre demanded it! I hope it works.

I originally had Mr. Du Mer as being “my old Mister,” and it almost stayed that way because of a very funny exchange that happened in Part 2. But that darling had to be killed to make for a richer character.

Once Ursula was free, healing, and starting her new life, the last thing she expected was love, and suddenly, she stumbled right into it. I didn’t want to imply that he “fixed” her or that their love is what made her whole. She had remade herself the way she wanted, and he fell in love with that person. Don’t know if that came across, but that was my intention.

The odd boom of sea shanties on the internet in 2020 (which I adored) led me to discover a band called The Longest Johns, who had been doing sailing songs for years before it became trendy. I promptly bought everything they had ever recorded and in doing so, found one of my all-time favorite songs. It’s called Ashes, and the title of this episode comes from it. You should listen to it and then throw your money at them because they are amazing.

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Author’s Notes

This is a scene I always wanted to do but never found a place in the first three seasons. Saffron and Zinnia like to tell stories, but they are focused on the future, so I don’t think they’d have a giant penny or robot dinosaur that they’d spend a lot of time restoring. But maybe someone else would.

It also gives me a chance to connect back to some earlier stories, reach out to some future stories and challenge myself to come up with some odd bits that would inspire me to tell that particular tale. I’ll leave it up to you to figure out which is which.

I knew Goldie wouldn’t leave the building undefended, and it just made sense to me that she’d enlist Ursula to come up with some ideas. Zinnia would rather fight them face to face, and Saffron would more likely try to capture them so she could talk them down. Goldie, and Ursula, know that some people only learn the hard way.

The title is from one of the greatest lyricists of my lifetime, the late great Howard Ashman, from The Little Mermaid. Kara’s line reading of it was supposed to be a joke just for me, but I was so delighted by it that I used it in the episode without her knowing. Guess she knows now!

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