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The Supreme Pod

Supreme Group

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Frequency: 1 episode/31d. Total Eps: 12

Welcome to The Supreme Pod by Supreme Group, where we discuss the art behind effective marketing in life science and healthcare. Every episode, we'll bring you insider strategies and expert interviews on crafting campaigns that drive real impact.

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E6: The Rise of AI Platforms in Life Science & Healthcare Marketing

Season 1

Thursday, February 12, 2026 • Duration 59:08

In life sciences and healthcare marketing, most AI adoption still revolves around a simple chatbot and looks like “prompt, draft, redo.”

In this episode, Paul sits down with Sheldon Zhai (Founder and Chief AI Officer, Supreme Group) and Leigh Wasson (SVP AI and Innovation, Supreme Group) to break down what actually drives value: using AI as leverage across the full marketing workflow, not a series of disconnected point solutions.

Why “AI strategy” is overhyped but "AI as leverage" is not, and how to think in terms of business leverage
Why AI adoption stalls in regulated teams: the pace of change, the drag of recontextualizing, and security/compliance risks
How point tools can speed up one step but create downstream bottlenecks (including MLR), and why end-to-end workflows matter
What an AI Platform (AIP) actually is, and how it moves teams beyond chat into a connected marketing stack
How curated business context (strategy, personas, proof points, approved assets) and live performance data turns AI into an insight machine and performance optimizer, not just a content generator
Why regulated marketing should prioritize accuracy, traceability, and governance over speed

Supreme Intelligence: https://supremeopti.com/supreme-intelligence
Supreme Group: https://supremegroup.ai

00:00 AI leverage, 100x improvements, and “humans tell you why”

00:37 Welcome and guests (Sheldon Zhai & Leigh Wasson)

01:18 Is AI overhyped? Or is it having a real impact?

02:41 Why AI adoption stalls: pace of change and tool churn

05:01 Agility vs security in a regulated industry

06:12 Why point solutions fail: bottlenecks and recontextualizing

07:54 The data unlock: curated content and live data for real-time optimization

10:29 What an AIP is (and why it goes beyond chat)

13:01 Can we really 10x our impact?

16:32 AIP vs ChatGPT

19:54 End-to-end life sciences workflows

26:34 The security risks of unmanaged AI experimentation

28:53 Application example: sales won analysis yields unexpected insights

35:34 Vibe-coding inside the platform and a “white glove” last mile

46:48 Accuracy over speed in regulated sectors

49:08 Why AI pilots fail: forced top-down vs pull-based adoption

52:45 What’s next: context graphs, platforms over point tools

58:40 Wrap and where to learn more

AI adoption, life sciences marketing, healthcare marketing, AI governance, MLR workflows, AI platforms, ChatGPT vs AI platform, marketing operations, human-AI collaboration

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E5: Five Trends That Will Define Life Science Marketing in 2026

Wednesday, January 21, 2026 • Duration 01:20:10

In this episode of The Supreme Pod, hosts Eric Southwell and Paul Avery, Ph.D., sit down with Supreme Optimization’s EVP of Advertising Mihaela Pupavac, Ph.D. and biotech media founder Joachim Eeckhout to discuss 5 life science marketing trends to watch in 2026: Bing ads as an underused growth lever, modern thought leadership, why podcasting is a trust engine for your audience, AI without the hype, and the fight for bottom-of-funnel visibility. Listen to find out what you should prioritize in your marketing efforts and tactical takeaways for 2026.

If you found the episode useful, we’d love it if you could leave us a review or share it with a colleague.

Want to hear more from our guests? Check out Joachim Eeckhout’s podcast The Science Marketer (https://thesciencemarketer.com/podcast) and his accompanying newsletter.

You can find more from Paul Avery through his podcasts Life, Science and Marketing (https://rss.com/podcasts/life-science-and-marketing/) and Artificially Intelligent Marketing (https://rss.com/podcasts/artificiallyintelligentmarketing/).

And if you want more great content from The Supreme Pod, subscribe to our channel on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SupremeGroupPodcast

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-supreme-pod-life-science-healthcare-marketing/id1832593114

00:00:00 Intro

00:00:47 Meet the Panel

00:06:10 What We’ll Discuss Today

00:07:33 Trend 1: Why Bing Ads Matter

00:10:58 Why Teams Ignore Bing

00:12:46 Where Bing Works

00:18:13 The Automation Trap in Paid Search

E4: The Secrets Behind Effective Thought Leadership in Health Tech with Jodi Amendola

Tuesday, January 6, 2026 • Duration 38:27

In this episode of The Supreme Pod, host Eric Southwell sits down with Jodi Amendola, President of Amendola Communications, a veteran in health tech and digital health PR with over 30 years of experience. Together, they dive deep into the evolution of thought leadership in healthcare marketing, from defining it in today’s social-first world, to using tools like LinkedIn, podcasts, and newsjacking to build authentic, educational visibility. Jodi shares timeless strategies for building trust, consistency, and authority in a crowded health tech market.

If you found the episode useful, we’d love it if you could leave us a review or share it with a colleague.

And if you want more great content like this, subscribe to The Supreme Group Pod channel on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SupremeGroupPodcast

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-supreme-pod-life-science-healthcare-marketing/id1832593114

00:00 Cold open: People follow people

00:28 Welcome + guest intro

01:10 What thought leadership really is and why it matters

03:21 How to build a thought leadership program: messaging, cadence, repurposing

10:15 Who should be a thought leader?

15:10 Challenges in health tech communications

18:22 The biggest mistakes in thought leadership and health tech PR

24:07 Navigating the health tech landscape

31:04 Newsjacking explained and real life examples

33:09 Future trends and using AI for health tech communications

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E3: The Power of Community-First Marketing in Rare Diseases with Liz Kanter

Wednesday, November 26, 2025 • Duration 55:20

In this new episode of The Supreme Pod, hosts Eric Southwell and Paul Avery, PhD talk with Liz Kanter, President of Pivot Design, about what actually works in rare disease marketing. From active listening and advocacy partnerships to co-creating resources with patients and HCPs, Liz explains how she breaks through the pharma marketing “sea of sameness.”

Liz also shares a beloved rare disease marketing case study: a therapeutic play kit complete with a stuffed animal “patient friend” that went viral in the children’s primary immunodeficiency community, transformed internal company culture, and is still in use 15 years later. Read more about it here: https://www.pivotdesign.com/work/igi/

Our mission is to provide the types of insights and inspiration from across the worlds of life science and healthcare marketing that you cannot find anywhere else. If you found this episode useful, we’d love it if you could leave us a review or share it with a colleague.

And if you want more great content like this, subscribe to The Supreme Group Pod channel on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SupremeGroupPodcast

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-supreme-pod-life-science-healthcare-marketing/id1832593114

0:00 — Opening & Introductions

1:28 — How Liz Found Her Calling in Rare Disease

3:29 — What Makes Rare Disease Marketing Unique

7:49 — The Role of Empathy & Emotional Intelligence

11:49 — Building Trust With Rare Disease Communities

17:17 — Pivot Wins Rare Disease Agency of the Year

24:44 — Breaking Out of the Pharma “Sea of Sameness”

31:00 — Liz’s Favorite Campaign (Therapeutic Play Kit)

43:38 — Measuring Impact & Rethinking Budgets

E2: The FDA Crackdown: What It Means for the Future of Pharma Marketing

Wednesday, October 15, 2025 • Duration 44:45

The FDA has raised the bar for DTC pharma ads and marketers must act now. Shannon Carlson and Olly Johnston explain plain language, fair balance of benefits and risks, linking ads to patient support, and full audits. Learn when to pause media, rebuild assets, and use AI for claim filters and modular content. Get the concrete steps and CMO playbook to protect your brand and build patient trust. Subscribe now to The Supreme Pod for more insights.

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E1: Life Science Keyword Research: Is ChatGPT Smarter than a PhD Scientist?

Monday, August 11, 2025 • Duration 01:05:17

Can ChatGPT outsmart a PhD in life science marketing?

In this Google Ads experiment, AI faces off with human expertise across keyword research, ad copywriting, and campaign setup. While ChatGPT offers helpful ideas, it misses key scientific and strategic nuances.

Learn where AI stumbles, where it shines, and why human insight still leads.

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E7: The Moments That Matter for Women Leaders in Life Science & Healthcare

Friday, March 6, 2026 • Duration 34:08

In life sciences and healthcare, stepping into leadership is about finding the right environment, the right mentors, and the courage to invite yourself to the table.

In this special International Women's Day episode, Eric Southwell sits down with four of Supreme Group's most senior women leaders — Nicky Battle (President, Supreme Communications), Liz Kanter (President & Executive Creative Director, Pivot Design), Shannon Carlson (President & Founder, C24), and Elizabeth Yi (Co-Founder, Broth) — for an honest conversation about what it actually takes to grow, lead, and thrive.

What you'll learn from this episode

Why the culture you work in matters more than the title you hold, and when it's time to walk away
The critical difference between mentors and sponsors, and why you need both
How to stop waiting to be noticed and start inviting yourself to the table
What organizations need to do beyond assigning titles: real authority, intentional time, and passing the mic
Why leadership isn't just about managing people, it's how you show up in every small moment, every single day
How to tighten your story and project confidence, even when you don't have all the answers
Why standing up for yourself requires leading with facts, not emotion, and the importance of addressing conflict fast

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Supreme Group: https://supremegroup.ai

Timestamps

00:00 Episode summary sizzle

00:41 Welcome and introductions (Nicky Battle, Liz Kanter, Shannon Carlson, Elizabeth Yi)

02:20 What most enabled your career growth?

02:53 Shannon on culture, authenticity, and finding the right environment

E10: What the AI Forward Deployed Expert Model Means for Healthcare & Life Sciences

Tuesday, June 2, 2026 • Duration 34:21

Ninety percent of generative AI pilots fail, often because the technology is disconnected from data, workflows, and anyone accountable for results. As a fix, some AI providers now offer Forward Deployed Engineer (FDE) models to build custom AI solutions from inside a company.

Before choosing an FDE partner, healthcare and life sciences organizations should ask: does this company understand the complex realities of regulated healthcare commercialization? And will they recommend what's best for my company’s needs, or what's best for their platform?

In this episode, Sheldon Zhai (Founder and Chief AI Officer, Supreme Group) digs into the considerations and opportunities of an AI deployment model in regulated healthcare and life sciences commercial environments.

If you're a senior marketer, commercial lead, or AI decision-maker in healthcare or life sciences trying to figure out how to make AI actually land, this episode is for you.

What you'll learn in this episode

What a FDE model is and what it means in practice for a healthcare and life sciences company
The benefits of a healthcare specific FDE model vs a generic FDE model
Why platform agnosticism matters in a market where most AI partners have a platform agenda
How to identify a commercialization partner that is genuinely AI-Native
Data security and compliance considerations, and what pharma companies should ask before committing to a FDE provider
The 20/60/20 model for human-AI collaboration, and why the human contribution may shrink in time but grow in impact
How a patient website project went from a three-month, six-figure quote to five-day delivery at thirty percent lower cost, with full legal and regulatory sign-off

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Supreme Group: https://supremegroup.ai

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E9: The First Breath of a New Pharma Brand

Tuesday, May 12, 2026 • Duration 01:04:38

The first breath of a pharma brand is the moment a company stops thinking only about the molecule and starts asking what that molecule needs to mean to physicians, patients, caregivers, institutions, payers, and the communities around it.

In this episode, host Paul Avery sits down with Elizabeth Yi, Doug Tischler, and Meredith Pugh from Broth to unpack what happens when a biotech or pharma company begins turning science into a market-ready story.

The conversation covers when brand work should begin, why market preparation takes longer than teams expect, how to translate complex science into simple communication, and why launch success often depends on experience, infrastructure, and adoption pathways as much as the brand itself.

If you are building, launching, or preparing the market for a pharma, biotech, rare disease, or healthcare brand, this episode is for you.

What you'll learn from this episode

How the "first breath" moment shifts a company from molecule thinking to market, HCP, patient, and community meaning
Why pharma brand planning often needs to begin years before launch, even while clinical data is still developing
How scientific platforms help build confidence, comfort, and readiness before a brand is available
Why a single, choiceful brand idea matters more than trying to communicate every possible product advantage
How to use market research without letting the safest answer flatten the work
Why early-stage companies need to think beyond brand into experience, process, access, and digital infrastructure
How patient and HCP insight can change the story a launch team needs to tell
Why first-in-category status is not enough without community trust, education, and market preparation
How AI is changing agency workflows without replacing the need for strategic judgment and client stewardship

Links

Supreme Intelligence: https://supremeopti.com/supreme-intelligence
Supreme Group: https://supremegroup.ai

E8: How to Build LinkedIn Ad Funnels That Actually Generate Life Science Leads

Tuesday, March 17, 2026 • Duration 57:53

Most life science companies are already running LinkedIn ads with great content and strong creative. So why aren't the leads coming in? Usually, it's because the strategy is broken.

In this episode, Eric Southwell (CGO, Supreme Group) and Irene Lecker (Director of Digital Strategy, Supreme Optimization) pull apart real LinkedIn campaigns from MilliporeSigma and Roche, showing exactly where each funnel breaks down and how to fix it.

What you'll learn from this episode

Why LinkedIn's member skills and professional profile data make it the only platform where you can target with the specificity needed for life science advertising
Case Study: How MilliporeSigma's ads have strong creative and a compelling free sample offer but lose prospects through a broken click path and mobile-unfriendly forms
The three-stage funnel Eric and Irene would build from existing content: video for awareness, gated PDF for consideration, lead gen form for conversion
Case Study: Why Roche's thought leadership ads are a standout, and why this ad format can deliver 10x the click-through rate of standard promoted posts
How to layer LinkedIn audiences using geography, industry, job function, seniority, and member skills to find the right scientists without inflating your cost per click
Why LinkedIn lead gen forms consistently outperform external landing pages, and when the one exception applies (live webinars)
The weekly optimization habits that turn a mediocre campaign into a lead generation engine within three months

A quick disclaimer: all information in this episode is publicly sourced, opinions are our own, and we have no affiliation with either MilliporeSigma or Roche.

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Supreme Intelligence: https://supremeopti.com/supreme-intelligence
Supreme Group: https://supremegroup.ai
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