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| Episode 31: How Non-Traditional Backgrounds Survive Trading and Markets - with Chloe Shepherd | 30 Jan 2026 | 01:20:39 | |
Is trading really what everyone thinks it is? ๐ Welcome to the THIRTY-FIRST episode of The Smart Money Show; today, we are joined by Chloe Shepherd, a Credit Repo Trader whose path in the market is anything but conventional. Growing up in Lancashire, Chloe became the first in her family to attend university, studying History and Maths at Glasgow, before breaking into top institutions like Citi and RBC Capital Markets. Alongside her career on the trading floor, she serves as a Development Board Member for upReach. Across this conversation, we explore Chloeโs journey into trading, starting with the early moments that made certain paths feel out of reach. Chloe opens up about the realities of working on a markets desk, the pressure that sometimes follows you home, and the parts of the job that rarely get spoken about. We also explore what it means to navigate moments of self-doubt, the role of a strong support system, and the ongoing work of managing imposter syndrome. This episode is an honest, grounded, and inspiring look at resilience, identity and what it means to carve out space in an industry that wasnโt built for everyone in mind. Contact: Chloe Shepherd - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shepherd-7bb45410b/ ๐ฅ Recorded: 14th January 2026 Chapters: 0:00 โ Intro ๐๏ธ 2:59 โ Growing Up in Morecambe & Education as a Way Out ๐ 6:37 โ A-Levels, Rejections & Choosing Glasgow Over London ๐จ 9:41 โ Switching Degrees & Landing a Trading Internship ๐ 11:48 โ Grades, Apprenticeships & Rethinking Talent ๐ 18:37 โ Validation, Money & The Emotional Reality of Success ๐ญ 20:31 โ Breaking Into Markets Without a Traditional Background ๐ช 27:15 โ RBC and Citi: Culture, Teams & Learning on the Desk ๐ฆ 39:08 โ Repo Trading Explained & Life on a Trading Floor ๐ 46:13 โ Soft Skills, Pressure & Taking Work Home ๐ง 55:53 โ Identity, Class & Belonging in Finance ๐งฌ 1:02:30 โ Social Mobility, UpReach & What Firms Still Get Wrong ๐ค 1:20:00 โ Outro ๐๐ผ As always, stay tuned to us regularly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk/ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Bonus Episode: The NEFS Conference and The Students Building It - with Haaris Khan and Misgana Berhane | 31 Dec 2025 | 00:56:03 | |
A massive finance conference OUTSIDE London FOR students!? ๐ค In the season of giving - hereโs a BONUS episode of The Smart Money Show, about the University of Nottinghamโs Economics and Finance Society 2026 Annual Conference. Firstly, we're really excited to announce our partnership with the NEFS Conference. As part of this collaboration, weโve got exclusive access to a range of professional speakers from elite financial institutions, and on the day of the conference weโll be setting up a studio to record interviews with speakers and senior professionals in attendance! So to kick off our collaboration, we are joined by their two co-presidents Haaris Khan and Misgana Berhane. After experiences across financial services and healthcare, Haaris is an incoming Industrial Placement Analyst at Lazard. Misgana completed spring weeks at Jefferies, Citi, and Scotiabank, alongside internships at Octopus Energy and Grosvenor, and is gearing up for a return internship at Jefferies this summer. In this bonus episode, we unpick their career journeys so far, their time with NEFS and why you should attend their flagship conference in the new year! Plus a Happy New Year from the team at The Smart Money Show! ๐ Contacts and Details: Get your tickets here! - https://www.instagram.com/uonnefs?igsh=cWc3OWlwbTI1emNn Haaris Khan - https://www.linkedin.com/in/haariskhanlinkedin/?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_detail_base%3BhS%2BbHsVcRh6soIKalYihbg%3D%3D Misgana Berhane - https://www.linkedin.com/in/misganaberhane/?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_detail_base%3BhS%2BbHsVcRh6soIKalYihbg%3D%3D NEFS TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@nefsconference?_r=1&_t=ZN-92dI7LvKENy NEFS Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/uonnefs?igsh=cWc3OWlwbTI1emNn ๐ฅ Recorded: 23rd December 2025 Chapters: 0:00 โ Intro ๐๏ธ 1:07 โ NEFS Conference Partnership Announcement ๐ค 1:40 โ Guest Introductions: Haaris Khan & Misgana Berhane ๐ 2:44 โ Why Finance? Early Motivations ๐ก 5:57 โ Early Perceptions of Finance & Misconceptions ๐ง 7:52 โ Degrees, Backgrounds & Transferable Skills ๐ 9:42 โ Breaking the โNon-Financeโ Barrier ๐ช 11:20 โ The Moment Finance Became Real ๐ฏ 16:22 โ Testing Career Paths & Gaining Exposure ๐ 20:59 โ Rejection, Resilience & Bouncing Back ๐ช 24:28 โ Converting a Spring Week into a Summer Offer ๐ 26:36 โ Why Societies Matter for Careers & Confidence ๐๏ธ 29:10 โ Inside NEFS & Its Growing Influence ๐ 31:36 โ Stepping Into Leadership Roles ๐ง 34:37 โ Balancing Academics, Societies & Applications โ๏ธ 40:51 โ Building the NEFS Conference Vision ๐ค 45:27 โ Why the Conference Matters for Students ๐ 46:23 โ Who Should Attend & What Youโll Gain ๐๏ธ 48:02 โ Getting Involved & Making the Most of It ๐ 49:16 โ Final Reflections & Key Lessons ๐ฑ 55:30 โ Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk/ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 30: Inside the World of Credit Ratings and Global Finance - with Olivier Beroud | 04 Dec 2025 | 01:13:50 | |
Risk, ratings, and a rise in reputation... โ ๏ธ In our THIRTIETH episode, join Ali and Noman as they meet Olivier Beroud, the Executive Chair of ARC Risk Group, to discuss credit ratings and the future of risk management. With an illustrious career spanning continents and household names, Olivier has held senior positions in risk management at GCR Ratings, Moodyโs Investorsโ Service, Barclays and Standard & Poorโs. Passionate about risk appetite but also education and mentorship, Olivier's consulting firm allows him to coach executives, lecture around the world and mentor students with financial fanaticism. Elaborating on his various roles and hot-takes on the function of credit ratings as a foundation of the global financial ecosystem, both his theoretical insights and practical advice turn this episode into a must-watch for anyone who envisions themselves with a future in finance! Olivier Beroud - https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivier-beroud-3854423/ ๐ฅ Recorded: 9th October Chapters: 0:00 - Intro ๐๏ธ 3:11 - Olivierโs Career Snapshot ๐งญ 5:03 - What Drew Him to Risk & Credit ๐ 6:17 - Mentors, Networks & Early Lessons ๐ค 9:57 - Why Accounting Still Matters ๐งพ 12:21 - Inside S&P: Learning Credit ๐ญ 15:06 - How Rating Agencies Really Work ๐ 19:54 - Handling High-Stakes Meetings as a Young Analyst ๐งโโ๏ธ 23:40 - Big Agencies vs Niche Players ๐ข 27:25 - How Banks Rate Risk Internally ๐ฆ 30:54 - The ThyssenKrupp Downgrade Case โ๏ธ 35:03 - Independence, Conflicts & the 2008 Impact ๐งฉ 42:13 - Tech, AI & The Future of Ratings โฑ๏ธ 46:57 - ESG in Practice: Real-World Challenges ๐ 55:02 - Building ARC into a Global Player ๐ 1:03:40 - Key Lessons & Advice for Students โจ 1:09:10 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk/ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 29: From Bank Warnings to AI Issuance and Buffett's Patience - with Dylan Ilett and Wahy Yahya | 10 Nov 2025 | 00:59:08 | |
Another month, another market shake-up... ๐ก Welcome to our October economic recap, the TWENTY-NINTH episode of The Smart Money Show! We analyse a month full of evolving macro narratives and noteworthy corporate stories with our Head of FICC, Wahy Yahya, and Head of Equities, Dylan Ilett. Tune in as we uncover how the US and UK economies have been performing since the beginning of Q4, as well as the performance of indexes like the S&P 500 and FTSE. Major banks have also been reporting a string of losses and Dylan will be sharing what has been causing this and how markets have been reacting. ๐๐ We also look at Buffett's so-called "noninvestment" strategy, Gunvor's $22 billion deal with Lukoil and its effects on the energy market, Microsoft's earnings and the AI momentum driving Big Tech, and why inflation in the Eurozone may finally be in a "good place." This is also the final appearance for Wahy on The Smart Money Show. We are sad to see him go and wish him the best for the future - savour the last time we hear him! Guest Contacts: Dylan Ilett - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylan-ilett/ Wahy Yahya - https://www.linkedin.com/in/wahy-yahya-1b1563301/ ๐ฅ Recorded: 5th November Chapters: 0:00 - Intro ๐๏ธ 2:31 - US Macro: Shutdown & Fed Rate Decisions ๐บ๐ธ 5:59 - UK Macro: Sticky Inflation & Bank of England ๐ฌ๐ง 11:14 - S&P 500 vs. FTSE 100 ๐ 14:14 - The $200B AI Credit Issuance Flood ๐ค 18:23 - Bank Earnings: Regional Losses & Systemic Risk ๐ฆ 24:09 - Norway's $2.1T Fund vs. Elon Musk's Pay Package ๐ฐ 28:44 - Microsoft Earnings & The Hidden $3.1B OpenAI Loss ๐คซ 39:14 - Commodity Risk: Gunvor's Deal with Lukoil ๐ข๏ธ 43:10 - Warren Buffett's $382B Cash Pile: A Warning Sign? ๐ค 48:36 - Good News: Euro Zone Inflation Nears Target ๐ช๐บ 53:10 - Show Announcements & Schedule Change ๐ข 53:54 - A Farewell to Wahy ๐ค 57:50 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk/ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 28: From UBS to LBS and the Decision to Explore Again - with Pearl Thakrar | 27 Oct 2025 | 00:47:08 | |
Early internships, the buy-side and risky decisions... ๐ซก Welcome to the TWENTY-EIGHTH episode of The Smart Money Show! This week, we sit down with Pearl Thakrar, whose journey from Warwick to UBS and now London Business School is anything but linear. From first-year internships to the fast-paced world of alternatives and private equity, Pearlโs story is about saying yes early, learning fast, and staying open-minded throughout. We unpack what itโs really like to break into finance before youโve even graduated, how to turn short-term chances into long-term wins, and how to prioritise self-growth and academic curiosity in a fast-paced work environment. Guest Contacts: Pearl Thakrar - https://www.linkedin.com/in/pearlthakrar/ ๐ฅ Recorded: 4th October Chapters: 0:00 - Intro ๐๏ธ 3:29 - The "Warwick Finance Bubble" & Early Influences ๐ญ 5:14 - Why She Chose Management Over a Pure Finance Degree ๐ 7:29 - Advice for Non-Finance Students Breaking Into the Industry ๐ 10:55 - The Internship Grind & The Power of Networking ๐ค 17:01 - How Firms Actually Evaluate Interns (Beyond the CV) ๐ 19:32 - The Secret to Converting a Spring Week to a Summer Offer ๐ 22:28 - Inside UBS: Graduate Training, Rotations & Team Culture ๐ 28:18 - A Deep Dive into Alternatives & Real Estate Private Equity ๐ผ 31:30 - The CFA Grind: Balancing Full-Time Work & Intensive Study ๐ 35:31 - The Big Pivot: Why She Left UBS for a Master's at LBS ๐ 37:53 - LBS vs. Warwick: The Master's Experience ๐๏ธ 40:57 - Master's: Career Accelerator or a "Reset"? ๐ค 42:42 - Final Reflections: Proudest Moment & Advice to Self โจ 44:17 - The Biggest Takeaway: "Follow Your Gut" ๐ 45:49 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk/ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 27: Signals and Surprises Across Markets in September - with Wahy Yahya | 13 Oct 2025 | 00:37:14 | |
It's been another busy month in markets for September... ๐จ Welcome to the TWENTY-SEVENTH episode of The Smart Money Show, our September economic recap. Featuring Ali and our Head of FICC, Wahy Yahya, we learn about the massive rallies in the Euro and Gold, whatโs moving in the energy market, the risks posed by shadow banking and much more! Guest Contacts: Wahy Yahya - https://www.linkedin.com/in/wahy-yahya-1b1563301/ ๐ฅ Recorded: 8th October Chapters: 0:00 - Intro ๐๏ธ 3:25 - US Macro Data: Strong Growth, Softening Labor & a Fed Rate Cut ๐บ๐ธ 6:07 - UK Macro Data: "Stubborn" Inflation & Bank of England's Outlook ๐ฌ๐ง 9:53 - Unpacking Shadow Banking: A "Systematic Blind Spot"? ๐ป 16:02 - BP's Energy Outlook: Is Higher Oil Demand Here to Stay? โฝ๏ธ 19:17 - The Euro's Rally: A Shift Away from the Dollar? ๐ช๐บ 24:19 - A Sneak Peek: Inside the New FICC Demo Portfolio ๐ 28:05 - Gold Smashes Through $3,800: What's Driving the Surge? ๐ช 31:38 - How to Navigate Conflicting Forecasts from Top Banks ๐ค 33:45 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk/ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 26: Shaping the Future of Client Relationships on the Buy-Side - with Wealth Managers at RBC Brewin Dolphin | 02 Oct 2025 | 01:17:59 | |
Shaping portfolios, giving back, and building impact that goes beyond returnsโฆ โ๐ผ Welcome to theย TWENTY-SIXTH episode of The Smart Money Show, recorded at RBC Brewin Dolphinโs Birmingham offices. This week weโre joined by three rising stars in investment management:ย Wolfie Papirnik, Harjot Wahiwala, and Reece Smith.ย Wolfie, recently recognised in Citywireโs Top 30 under 30, combines sharp technical expertise with a passion for community responsibility. Harjot works with RBC Brewin Dolphinโs Midlands Charity team while on her way to becoming a Chartered Wealth Manager, championing accessibility in finance and mentoring future talent. Reece brings nearly five years of experience across private client and portfolio management, building on his early career in PwCโs M&A division and his Masterโs in Investment Management. Together, their stories reveal how the next generation of wealth managers are redefining finance, blending performance with purpose and showing that impact matters as much as returns. From community leadership to client trust, this episode dives into what excites them about the future of the industry and what advice theyโd give to students and aspiring professionals. ๐ก Guest Contacts: Wolfie - https://www.linkedin.com/in/wolfie-papirnik-865474100/ Harjot - https://www.linkedin.com/in/harjot-wahiwala-acsi-894a36111/ Reece - https://www.linkedin.com/in/reece-smith-630452170/ ๐ฅ Recorded: 4th September Chapters: 0:00 - Intro ๐๏ธ 3:11 - Origin Stories: Three Unique Paths into Finance ๐ก 8:46 - The Value of a Master's, Professional Exams & Taking a Gap Year โ๏ธ 14:34 - Early Career Lessons from Goldman Sachs & PWC โ๏ธ 21:05 - The Brutal Reality of Breaking In: "A Thousand Applications" ๐ฅ 28:16 - The Secret to a Successful Interview? Be Yourself. ๐ค 37:09 - Life at RBC Brewin Dolphin: Culture, People & Purpose ๐ผ 44:50 - A Day in the Life: From Private Clients to Portfolio Management ๐ 47:40 - The Fulfilling Work of the Midlands Charity Team ๐ 54:31 - Personal Impact & The Drive to Give Back ๐ 1:05:15 - The Biggest Lessons Learned in Their Careers ๐ง 1:08:18 - Proudest Moments & The Power of Small Wins โจ 1:15:13 - The Biggest Takeaway for Aspiring Professionals ๐ 1:16:24 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk/ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 25: Exploring Industries and Shaping Strategy at McKinsey - with Vedika Akhramka | 22 Sep 2025 | 00:46:18 | |
From Mumbai to McKinsey, to building decks and community... โ๐ผ Welcome to the TWENTY-FIFTH episode of The Smart Money Show! Weโre joined this week by Vedika Akhramka, a London-based consultant at McKinsey & Company and founder of Whatโs Her Network, a thriving community of 300+ young women professionals. Her story is an exemplar of agility and inclusivity. She has shaped strategy across industries, spanning aerospace to live music, while also championing spaces that empower women to connect and lead with purpose. Vedika shares her journey into consulting and the lessons she's learned from working across diverse sectors. She also reflects on why building supportive, women-led networks matters just as much to her as climbing the corporate ladder. This is a conversation about resilience and creating the kind of purposeful community you want to belong to. Guest Contacts: Vedika Akhramka - https://www.linkedin.com/in/vedikaakhramka/ ๐ฅ Recorded: 3rd Sept Chapters: 0:00 - Intro ๐๏ธ 2:49 - The "Bollywood Banker": An Early Start in Finance ๐ฌ 3:45 - The First Internship & The Pivot to Consulting ๐ค 5:00 - From Mumbai to the UK: A Journey of Independence โ๏ธ 8:30 - University Lessons: Why Extracurriculars Matter More Than Your Degree ๐ 12:10 - The Strategic Master's: Reclaiming Uni Life Post-COVID ๐ 17:51 - Inside Consulting: Luck, Networking & The McKinsey Toolkit ๐ผ 23:20 - A Consultant's Life: From Live Music to Aerospace ๐ 28:46 - The Most Defining Factor for Your Career (It's Not Your Degree) โจ 32:11 - Founding "What's Her Network?": A Community for Women in Business ๐ค 37:53 - The Future of Work: Overcoming Barriers for Women ๐ฉโ๐ผ 40:45 - Final Reflections & Career Advice ๐ก 43:22 - The Biggest Takeaway: Find What Truly Fulfills You ๐ 44:47 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so | |||
| Episode 24: What Tennis and Wall Street Teach About Sacrifice and Burnout - with Vitoria Okuyama | 15 Sep 2025 | 00:50:57 | |
Smashing serves to banking burnout, forging a new path... ๐พ Welcome to the TWENTY-FOURTH episode of The Smart Money Show, where we're joined by Vitoria Okuyama. She first scaled the heights of tennis, ranking #118 in the world U18, before climbing the Citi towers on Wall Street, working as an IB analyst. Three years in, she decided to step away from investment banking in a bid to find what truly inspires her and grow her ambition sustainably. Today's conversation explores what it takes to achieve such a high level, comparing sports with finance, and the importance of reflecting on your emotions when pursuing such high-pressure roles. Guest Contacts: Vitoria Okuyama - https://www.linkedin.com/in/vitoriaokuyama ๐ฅ Recorded: 8th Sept Chapters: 0:00 - Intro ๐๏ธ 3:18 - The First Chapter: Forging a Pro Tennis Career in Brazil ๐พ 7:55 - The Pivot: Why She Swapped the Tennis Court for Finance ๐ผ 11:01 - College Life as a Student-Athlete & The Mental Toll ๐ง 14:39 - Breaking In: The Unconventional Grind for a "Dream" Internship โ๏ธ 20:04 - The Reroute: Using a Master's for a Second Chance at Wall Street ๐ 21:42 - Landing the Job: How Networking Got Her into Citi ๐ฆ 24:24 - The Brutal Reality of Wall Street: 10 AM to 4 AM & Burnout ๐จ 28:04 - A Full Circle Moment: Pride, Pain & What She Learned ๐ 37:28 - The Recovery Journey: "It's Easier to Repair Than to Rebuild" โจ 42:39 - Life After Banking: The Next Chapter of Reinvention ๐บ๏ธ 45:21 - Final Reflections & Career Advice ๐ก 48:23 - The Biggest Takeaway: Reverse-Engineer the Life You Want ๐ 49:16 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so | |||
| Episode 23: Double Promotions and the Power of a Personal Brand - with Jag Dhaliwal | 08 Sep 2025 | 01:02:15 | |
A guest whoโs fast-tracked their way through corporate life while helping others do the same... ๐ Our TWENTY-THIRD episode features Jag Dhaliwal, a Chartered Accountant, Career Coach, and Content Creator with over 8 years of experience at the Big 4 and IBM. Jag brings first-hand insight into both the highs and the challenges of professional growth! Beyond her corporate journey, Jag has built a thriving coaching practice, a YouTube community of 4,000+ subscribers, and also hosts the ICAEW Student Insights podcast, guiding the next generation of finance professionals. In this energising convo, we explore Jagโs career story, her strategies for balancing exams and life, and her advice on building careers with confidence and purpose. A must-listen for ambitious young professionals ready to shape a path that aligns with their ambitions. ๐ค Guest Contacts: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jag-dhaliwal-aca-504b2584/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jagsjourneyblog/ TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@jagsjourneyblog YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@jagsjourneyblog/videos Website - https://jagsjourney.blog/ ๐ฅ Recorded: 2nd Sept Chapters: 0:00 - Intro ๐๏ธ 3:12 - An Ambitious Start: Grammar School, Maths & Early Career Focus ๐ 7:44 - The Unconventional Pivot: Why She Took a Year Out to Teach ๐ฉโ๐ซ 15:16 - The First Corporate Job: Lessons in Professionalism at IBM ๐ผ 22:06 - The ACA Exam Grind & Surviving the "Busy Season" ๐ 26:05 - The Fast Track: Secrets to a Double Promotion in Under 4 Years ๐ 36:32 - The Most Important Skills for a Corporate Career Today ๐ 40:32 - The Side Hustle Story: Blog, YouTube & The ICAEW Podcast ๐๏ธ 50:35 - The Power of Personal Branding (And Her Book) โ๏ธ 54:02 - Final Reflections & Career Advice โจ 58:59 - The Biggest Takeaway: "Just Go For It" ๐ 1:01:12 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 22: What Moved Markets in August from Tech to Grain Prices - with Dylan Ilett and Wahy Yahya | 03 Sep 2025 | 00:56:01 | |
Another month has ended, which means another recap episode is dueโฆ ๐๐ Welcome to the TWENTY-SECOND episode of The Smart Money Show! As always, Dylan Ilett takes the lead on equities, while Wahy Yahya brings fresh insights from the FICC side. We kick off with the latest UK and US economic data, before digging into BofAโs ultra-short FX calls, the moves in FTSE and the S&P 500, and why a harsh drought is sending grain prices sharply higher. ๐พ On the equity front, we break down NVIDIAโs latest earnings and new US deal, plus take a look at how Chinaโs rally and renewed EM flows are shaping global sentiment. Meanwhile, Wahy unpacks the surge in 30-year gilt yields back to 1998 levels, the slide in sterling as the dollar rebounds, and the BoEโs updated view on how QT is feeding through to the market. Whether youโre following macro, FX, or equities, this episode is loaded with sharp insights and clear takeaways to help you cut through the noise. ๐ Guest Contacts: Dylan Ilett - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylan-ilett/ Wahy Yahya - https://www.linkedin.com/in/wahy-yahya-1b1563301/ ๐ฅ Recorded: 29th August Chapters: 0:00 - Intro ๐๏ธ 2:34 - UK Macro Data: "Sticky" Inflation & The BoE's Rate Cut ๐ฌ๐ง 6:01 - US Macro Data: Strong GDP vs. Labor Market Concerns ๐บ๐ธ 9:48 - Are Investment Banks Trading Like Hedge Funds? ๐ค 13:24 - S&P 500 vs. FTSE 100: A Performance Breakdown ๐ 18:05 - A Looming Crisis? Droughts & The Risk of Food Inflation ๐ฝ 22:00 - The Nvidia Story: Earnings, Customer Risk & The China Deal ๐ป 29:31 - The Bond Market's Warning: UK Gilts Near 1998 Highs โ ๏ธ 35:10 - A Surprising Insight on Index Concentration Risk ๐ง 39:05 - The China Rally: An Unexplained Surge ๐จ๐ณ 42:37 - FX Deep Dive: Sterling vs. The Dollar (Cable) ๐ท๐ต 45:43 - The Great Rotation: Why Fund Managers Favour Emerging Markets ๐ 52:22 - Understanding Quantitative Tightening (QT): A Key Policy Tool โ๏ธ 54:44 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk/ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 21: Mastering Execution and Building Fairer Markets - with Michael Seigne | 25 Aug 2025 | 01:30:33 | |
If youโve ever wondered how theย real mechanicsย of global financial markets work, todayโs guest is someone youโll want to hear from... ๐๐ผ Welcome to the TWENTY-FIRST episode of The Smart Money Show! Weโre joined by Michael Seigne, a seasoned execution specialist with over three decades of experience at the sharpest edge of trading and markets. From Managing Director at Goldman Sachs to Global Head of Execution Services at Redburn, Michael has built a career defined by precision and leadership. โก๏ธ In 2022, he took all that experience and founded Candor Partners, a mission-driven firm helping listed companies improve the way share transactions, especially buybacks, are executed. His vision? To bring more transparency and efficiency to capital markets. ๐ Whether youโre aiming for a career in markets or just love a good story from someone whoโs seen it all, this is an episode you wonโt want to miss.ย Guest Contacts: Michael Seigne - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-seigne/ ๐ฅ Recorded: 28th July Chapters:ย 0:00 - Intro ๐๏ธ 3:46 - An Unconventional Start: From Medic to Engineer in Hong Kong ๐ญ๐ฐ 8:52 - The "Random Walk" into Finance & The Goldman Sachs Grind ๐ฆ 28:40 - Inside Goldman's Culture: The 6-Month "Military-Esque" Training ๐ค 32:30 - Leadership Lessons & Navigating a 22-Year Career ๐ 38:46 - Hiring Philosophy: The 3 Things That Matter Most ๐ 43:18 - Execution 101: What Happens When You Hit "Buy"? ๐จโ๐ป 48:42 - Man AND Machine: The Reality of Algorithmic Trading ๐ค 55:16 - The Power of Humility: "I Know Virtually Nothing" ๐ค 58:28 - Founding Candle Partners: Identifying a Billion-Pound Problem ๐ก 1:10:55 - How Inefficient Buybacks are Harming UK Markets ๐ 1:23:46 - Final Reflections & Career Advice โจ 1:27:45 - The Biggest Takeaway: "It's a Team Sport" ๐ 1:28:35 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here:ย https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk/ย Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 20: Navigating Crises and Building Hedge Fund Strategy Success - with Robert Donald | 21 Aug 2025 | 01:03:45 | |
A guest whoโs seen it all, from all sides of financeโฆ ๐ก Our TWENTIETH episodeโs guest has PLENTY of experience, in senior offices at multiple respected financial firms! Robert Donald has worked across the buy and sell side, covering the breadth of finance in corporate finance, equity research, portfolio management and hedge funds. In this milestone conversation with our prolific guest, we zoom back to the beginning, trace the path Robert took, unpicking his reflections, learnings and lessons for us at the beginning of our career. A valuable episode, offering a holistic view of financial services - dive in! ๐ค Guest Contacts: Robert Donald - https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-robert/ Chapters: 0:00 - Intro ๐๏ธ 3:42 - The Origin Story: The 10-Year-Old Who Read Annual Reports ๐ 7:12 - Entering the City: Surviving the "Big Bang" Era ๐ฅ 11:29 - The Pivot to Equity Research & Why He Left the Sell-Side ๐ถโโ๏ธ 17:22 - Entering the Hedge Fund World at GLG ๐ผ 21:16 - What is a Long-Short Portfolio Manager? A Breakdown ๐ 27:00 - Buy-Side vs. Sell-Side: Incentives, Risk & Exploiting Fear ๐ฑ 29:28 - Building at Schroders: The Helix & GIA Platforms ๐ 40:55 - Lessons from 40 Years of Market Crises ๐ช๏ธ 45:26 - The Sailboat Analogy: A Masterclass in Risk Management โต 46:39 - A Veteran's Warning: Is the Market Priced for Perfection? ๐ค 52:37 - What is "Risk"? A Multifaceted Definition โ ๏ธ 55:18 - Final Reflections & Career Advice โจ 1:01:23 - The Biggest Takeaway: Be Curious, Work Hard, Stay Humble ๐ 1:02:29 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk/ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 19: Switching Lanes Across Finance and Building a Global Career - with Nomaan Riaz | 11 Aug 2025 | 01:23:14 | |
One man, two continents, and a financial career map that says you can do it all... ๐คฉ Welcome to the NINETEENTH episode of The Smart Money Show! This week, we're joined by Nomaan Riaz, a career warrior whose path through the financial world has spanned investment banking, private credit, venture capital, and now fintech in Dubaiโs growing financial hub. This episode we talk about how to break into the toughest corners of finance, what itโs like to switch lanes between vastly different roles, and how a career in Dubai really shapes up. Along the way, Nomaan shares the lessons learned from rejections, the skills that transfer across sectors, and the mindset that has kept him moving forward. So if you're curious about high-stakes banking, the art of spotting a winning founder, or building a global career with agility then this episode is packed with perspective you need. Guest Contacts: Nomaan Riaz - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nomaan1/ Chapters: 0:00 - Intro ๐๏ธ 3:17 - The Hustler's Origin: From Lollipops to Lip Kits ๐ญ 8:32 - Overcoming the "Small Town Mindset" & Moving to London ๐ 17:07 - Breaking In: First Internships & Realisations ๐ฆ 24:24 - The Brutal Rejection Story: Lazard & The Lawnmower Question ๐ฅ 35:07 - The Power of Your Circle: Lessons from Friendships ๐ค 40:44 - Career Snapshot Part 1: Private Credit at Pemberton ๐ผ 47:28 - Career Snapshot Part 2: Inside a "Dragon's Den" VC Firm ๐ฒ 58:16 - How to Assess a Founder: The VC Investor's Mindset ๐ค 1:05:04 - The Big Leap: Why He Left VC for a Startup in Dubai โ๏ธ 1:14:40 - The Key to Progress: "Ease is a Greater Threat than Hardship" ๐ง 1:15:49 - Final Reflections & Career Advice โจ 1:21:30 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk/ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 18: Big Signals From a Volatile Start to the Summer - with Dylan Ilett and Wahy Yahya | 04 Aug 2025 | 00:56:03 | |
It's been a while since we've had a recap, but we're back with a NEW faceโฆ ๐๐ Welcome to the EIGHTEENTH episode of The Smart Money Show! As usual, we're joined by our Head of Equities, Dylan Ilett, but also by our new Head of FICC, Wahy Yahya! From breaking US and UK macroeconomic data to shifting bond market dynamics, we break down what the latest numbers reveal about the global economy and what investors might be missing. We dig into the early wave of US bank earnings, the explosion in clearing volumes, and what the latest warnings from Goldman and BofA could mean for equity markets. Is sentiment starting to crack or just cooling off? ๐ค On the macro side, we cover the latest Trump developments, examine curve moves and widening credit spreads, and unpack why gold is back in focus with a setup that has some serious upside potential! Whether youโre just watching the credit space or following the flow in equities, this one is packed with sharp insights and clear takeaways. Guest Contacts: Dylan Ilett - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylan-ilett/ Wahy Yahya - https://www.linkedin.com/in/wahy-yahya-1b1563301/ Chapters: 0:00 - Welcome & A Major Team Update ๐๏ธ 3:41 - Episode Agenda & Macro Data Kick-off ๐ 4:36 - US Economic Data: Resilience Amid Tariff Talk ๐บ๐ธ 8:05 - UK Economic Data: "Sticky" Inflation & Rate Cut Hopes ๐ฌ๐ง 11:11 - Bank Earnings Smashed: How Volatility Became a Goldmine ๐ฐ 15:11 - "Clearing Volume Explosion": The Market Goes Risk-Off โ ๏ธ 19:36 - Are We in a Bubble? Goldman & BofA Warn on US Stocks ๐ 26:52 - The Great Rotation: Gold, Silver & Platinum's Surge ๐ช 32:48 - Trump's Latest Moves: Trade Deals & Suing the Fed? โ๏ธ 38:42 - Investor Mindset: Navigating a Trump-Driven Market ๐ค 42:19 - FICC Deep Dive: Curve Dynamics & Credit Spreads ๐ 47:18 - Tech Earnings Report: Big Tech Continues to Beat Estimates ๐ป 51:39 - FICC Profit Trends: How Trading Desks are Thriving ๐ฆ 54:34 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk/ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 17: Why the Big Four Path Still Works for Investment Banking - with Jesse Hall | 28 Jul 2025 | 01:03:01 | |
Welcome to the SEVENTEENTH episode of The Smart Money Show! ๐ฅ For this week's episode we're joined by Jesse Hall, an Investment Banking Associate at J.P. Morgan, currently working in the Financial Institutions Group (FIG) team in London. Born and raised in South West London, Jesse took a leap after A-levels to study Financial Mathematics at the University of Nottingham, where his journey into finance truly began. From student investment societies to mastering technical skills, he laid the groundwork early. After university, Jesse kicked off his career at KPMG, qualifying as both a Chartered Accountant and CFA charterholder. Now at J.P. Morgan, heโs spent the past three years advising FIG clients across Europe from the heart of Canary Wharf. In this episode, Jesse shares practical advice on navigating the demanding world of investment banking covering everything from building credibility, surviving long hours, and continuously investing in your own development. A must-listen for any aspiring banker or curious mind! ๐ผ Guest Contacts: Jesse Hall - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessejameshall/ Chapters: 0:00 - Intro ๐๏ธ 3:01 - An Unconventional Start: From Car Boot Sales to Wimbledon ๐พ 8:04 - The University Journey & Finding a Focus ๐ 11:50 - The Chartered Accountant "Floor": Starting at a Big Four ๐ข 15:12 - The Strategic Climb: From Audit to FIG M&A ๐ 21:02 - The Lateral Move: Breaking into JP Morgan ๐ผ 31:55 - Culture Shock & The Push for Perfection ๐ฅ 35:40 - A Day in the Life of an IB Associate ๐ 42:33 - Investment Banking 101: A Breakdown for Students โ๏ธ 50:38 - Advice for Breaking In & Navigating Your Career ๐ง 55:29 - What Does Success Look Like? Plans & Final Reflections โจ 1:00:48 - The Biggest Takeaway: Your Journey Isn't Set in Stone ๐ 1:01:30 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk/ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 16: How Internships, Pivots & Purpose Shaped a Career and a Company - with Agbolade Oduniyi | 20 Jul 2025 | 01:01:45 | |
Welcome to the SIXTEENTH episode of The Smart Money Show! ๐ฅ Today, Ali and Noman chat to Agbolade Oduniyi. Agbolade started on the buy-side, pursuing asset management at Wellington Management, then pivoting to strategy consulting at firms including Accenture. Now, heโs the founder of FO Perspectives, focused on attracted diverse and underrepresented backgrounds in early careers, connecting talented students (like you, our audience ๐) with employers. ๐ค In the conversation, we start with his financial roots (with 3 internships in 3 years at uni!), before discussing how he found his career shifts and explore his work with FO Perspectives now. A unique career journey, we hope you enjoy hearing all about it! ๐ซก Guest Contacts: Agbolade Oduniyi - https://www.linkedin.com/in/agbolade-o-724288106/ FO Perspectives - https://linktr.ee/foperspectives Chapters: 0:00 - Intro ๐๏ธ 3:41 - Early Influences & Finding Finance ๐ก 7:35 - University Journey & The Power of Networking ๐ 10:32 - The "Try Everything" Internship Strategy ๐ 13:54 - Does Your School Define You? A Take on Imposter Syndrome ๐ค 17:35 - The Pivot: From Asset Management to Consulting ๐ 22:21 - How to Successfully Switch Industries (The Blueprint) ๐ 25:24 - Asset Management vs. Consulting: How to Break In ๐ 32:30 - The Founding of FO Perspectives ๐ 40:01 - The Reality of Entrepreneurship vs. a Corporate Job ๐ผ 41:42 - How FO Balances Student Needs & Employer Agendas โ๏ธ 46:43 - Advice for Students: How to Stand Out & Succeed ๐ 51:34 - The Future of Hiring: Are CVs Becoming Obsolete? ๐ 54:48 - Final Reflections & The Biggest Takeaway ๐ 1:00:06 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk/ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 15: Building a Career Without Losing Yourself - with Abrar Azad | 15 Jul 2025 | 01:01:36 | |
Staying true to who you are, and still climbing the ranks... ๐จ Welcome to the FIFTEENTH episode of The Smart Money Show! Abrar Azad didnโt follow the textbook path. Born and raised in Bolton, heโs now an Assistant Vice President at Deutsche Bank, and the youngest-ever Chair of the firmโs Muslim Network. But his story isnโt just about promotions or titles. Itโs about identity, community, and rewriting what success in the City should look like. We delve into some really pertinent topics including what itโs like to bring faith into finance, why community work isnโt just a side hustle, and how ambition and authenticity can actually coexist. Whether youโre trying to break into the industry, break out of imposter syndrome, or just break the mould, Abrarโs story will leave you thinking bigger and bolder. Guest Contacts: Abrar Azad - https://www.linkedin.com/in/abrar-azad/ Chapters: 0:00 - Intro ๐๏ธ 3:31 - Bolton Roots & The Value of Hard Work ๐ช 7:44 - University Strategy: The Power of Extracurriculars ๐ 12:36 - Staying Grounded & The Importance of Your Roots ๐ณ 15:45 - The Unconventional Journey into Banking ๐ 19:44 - Bouncing Back: How to Turn Setbacks into Opportunities โจ 24:20 - Student to Professional: Mindset, Excel & Imposter Syndrome ๐ผ 29:45 - A Day in the Life: AVP in the UK CFO Office ๐ 35:13 - The Most Important Skill in Finance? People. ๐ค 38:28 - Navigating Corporate Life as a Muslim Professional ๐ 43:07 - Leading the Deutsche Bank Muslim Network ๐ 48:13 - The Future of Faith & Cultural Inclusion at Work ๐๏ธ 54:30 - Final Reflections & Career Advice โจ 58:21 - The Biggest Takeaway: The Power of Community ๐ 1:00:06 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://www.thesmartmoneyshow.co.uk/ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 14: Passing CFA Level 3 Without a Finance Degree - with Antony Wilson | 07 Jul 2025 | 01:03:52 | |
Welcome to the FOURTEENTH episode of The Smart Money Show! ๐ธ This week, weโre joined by Antony Wilson, a second-year Investment Analyst at Lane, Clark & Peacock, one of the UKโs leading firms in pensions and investment consulting!ย Antonyโs story is proof that thereโs no โrightโ path into finance, he studied Biomedical Sciences at the University of Manchester, sat CFA Level 1 off his own back, and is now a CFA Level 3 pass-holder working closely with clients to shape long-term investment strategy. ๐ We dive into how he made the pivot from science to finance, what the CFA journey really takes, and how he keeps a strong work-life balance while thriving in a demanding role. An inspiring episode for anyone thinking about breaking into finance from a non-finance degree! ๐๏ธ Guest Contacts: Antony Wilson - https://www.linkedin.com/in/-antonywilson/ Chapters: 0:00 - Intro ๐๏ธ 2:29 - From Biomedical Science to Finance ๐งช 6:47 - Transferable Skills & The Value of a Non-Finance Degree ๐ง 11:10 - The Pivot: Independent Trading & The Application Grind ๐ 24:34 - Conquering the HireVue Interview ๐ป 27:51 - The CFA Journey: Motivation, Funding & Management ๐ 38:06 - CFA Level 1 vs 2 vs 3: The Brutal Reality ๐ฅ 42:25 - Is the CFA Worth It for Students Today? ๐ค 46:49 - A Day in the Life: Investment Consulting at LCP ๐ผ 53:10 - What Would Surprise Students About the Job? ๐ฎ 58:09 - Future Plans & Final Reflections โจ 1:01:31 - The Biggest Takeaway for Aspiring Professionals ๐ 1:02:18 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://linktr.ee/thesmartmoneyshow Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 13: From Biomedical Science to Blackrock and Beyond - with Esmond Afranie | 01 Jul 2025 | 00:56:52 | |
Welcome to the THIRTEENTH episode of The Smart Money Show! ๐ฐ Nothing unlucky about this one, weโre at BlackRock, the worldโs largest asset manager! And weโre joined by Esmond Afranie who, in true portfolio diversification style, has a unique route into finance: he studied Biomedical Sciences at Warwick and is now in the European Fixed Income team at BlackRock! ๐คฏ In our conversation, we speak about how he found that journey breaking into finance, learn more about his role today and the social mobility initiative he founded, โProsper Warwickโ. A great listen as always! ๐ค Guest Contacts: Esmond Afranie - https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmond-afranie-3a42271a6/ Prosper Warwick - https://www.prosperwarwick.com/ Chapters: 0:00 - Welcome ๐๏ธ 3:02 - From Biomedical Science to Finance ๐งช 9:04 - The Transition: First Steps & Pivotal Moments ๐ 13:02 - Navigating the "Why Finance?" Question ๐ค 17:12 - The Internship Journey: From Spring Week to Grad Offer ๐ 21:16 - What Made Him Stand Out? โจ 28:51 - Advice for Non-Finance Students Breaking In ๐ 30:37 - Founding Prosper Warwick: A Social Impact Story ๐ค 40:08 - A Day in the Life: Fixed Income Analyst at BlackRock ๐ผ 42:30 - Fixed Income Explained & The Learning Curve ๐ง 49:26 - Future Plans & Final Reflections ๐ 53:55 - The Three Biggest Takeaways for Students ๐ 55:43 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://linktr.ee/thesmartmoneyshow Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 12: Mastering Macro and Making Markets Make Sense - with Michael Brown | 23 Jun 2025 | 00:42:25 | |
Big-picture thinking, career clarity, and the kind of honest advice you wonโt find in textbooks... ๐ Welcome to the TWELFTH episode of The Smart Money Show! This week, weโre joined by Michael Brown, an award-winning market analyst and Senior Research Strategist at Pepperstone, whose work spans global macro, cross-asset strategy, and real-time market insight. From supporting over 50,000 clients across five offices to broadcasting market insights to thousands each week, his role is as fast paced as it is impactful. Recorded live at Pepperstoneโs London HQ, this in-person episode goes beyond the data. We explore Michaelโs journey into finance, his early fascination with markets, and how he carved out a voice in the crowded world of research and financial media. From decoding the macro landscape to building trust through clarity and consistency, Michael shares how he approaches research, handles high-stakes news cycles, and balances technical depth with clear communication. Whether you're a student trying to break into finance or an investor curious about how top analysts form their views, this episode is full of practical insights and career wisdom. Guest Contacts: Micheal Brown - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-r-brown/ Pepperstone - https://pepperstone.com/en-gb/ Chapters: 0:00 - Welcome ๐๏ธ 2:06 - An Unconventional Path into Finance ๐ 4:33 - The University Degree: A "Filtering Mechanism"? ๐ค 8:34 - First Role & The Pivot to Research โ๏ธ 10:29 - The Reality of a Career in Markets: Beyond the 9-to-5 โฐ 13:50 - Navigating Crises: COVID vs. Predictable Events ๐ช๏ธ 17:35 - The Macro Analyst's Framework ๐ง 22:40 - Identifying Long-Term Market Themes ๐ 26:16 - How to Break into Macro Research ๐ 29:14 - A Day in the Life at Pepperstone โ๏ธ 36:13 - The Underrated Skill for Career Success ๐ค 37:55 - Final Reflections: Proudest Moments & Advice โจ 40:34 - Biggest Takeaway & Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://linktr.ee/thesmartmoneyshow Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 11: Demystifying Crypto and Building the S&P 500 of Blockchain - with Zeya Rabani | 16 Jun 2025 | 01:07:13 | |
Itโs blockchain, broken down, but BY and FOR students... ๐ฐ Hereโs the ELEVENTH episode of The Smart Money Show! This week, weโre joined by Zeya Rabani, a blockchain developer turned CEO who's been working directly in the crypto space since 2019. From smart contracts to smart investments, Zeyaโs journey through crypto is anything but ordinary. ๐ก Now leadingย BIT10, a platform building index funds and ETFs for the top 10 cryptocurrencies, heโs making crypto investing more accessible for everyone whether youโre a fresh-faced student or a long-term believer in digital assets. We talk about how he got into the space, break down the basics of blockchain and DeFi, and even get some golden advice for students trying to navigate the crypto wave. ๐ And thatโs not all. Our very ownย Head of Crypto, Jeremy Orkonoe, joins the conversation to dig deeper into BIT10โs vision, development, and the future of crypto adoption! Guest Contacts: BIT10 - https://www.bit10.app/ Zeya - https://www.linkedin.com/in/zeya-rabani/ Chapters: 0:00 - Welcome ๐๏ธ 1:00 - Introducing Zeya Rabani 3:10 - Origin Story: From Web Developer to Blockchain Enthusiast ๐ก 9:19 - Early Hurdles: Dodging Scams & Overcoming Barriers ๐ง 18:01 - How His View of Crypto Has Evolved Over Time ๐ค 21:58 - Crypto & Blockchain Basics for Beginners โ๏ธ 28:44 - How Students Can Get Involved (Without Coding!) ๐ค 34:18 - Deep Dive on Bit10 with Jeremy & Zeya ๐ 40:24 - The Tech & Strategy Behind Bit10 โ๏ธ 48:42 - Can Index Funds Bridge Traditional & Crypto Investing? ๐ช 52:19 - Zeya's Personal Philosophy & What Needs to Change in Crypto ๐ ๏ธ 59:03 - Final Reflections & Key Takeaways โจ 1:05:41 - Outro ๐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://linktr.ee/thesmartmoneyshow Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 10: Building Something Bigger Through Markets, Mindset and Momentum - with the Founding Team of AlphaPicks | 09 Jun 2025 | 01:24:24 | |
Into double digits - hereโs the TENTH episode of The Smart Money Show! ๐ฅ This week, you join Noman and Ali on a tennis court - yes, even they were surprised - serving up a roundtable featuring AlphaPicks. They are a three-man team of market traders, providing investors with high-quality ideas across multiple asset classes. ๐ And guess what, weโve got the entire team on! Their Head of Macro Trading Strategy, Alex, one of their main investors, Jonathan, and the founder, Jesse, also their Head of Research. With them, we go into their story before AlphaPicks, what led to its inception and a roundtable rally of insights into researching and trading in markets. ๐ Enjoy diving into our longest ever episode - itโs a match winner. ๐พ Guest Contacts: Alex - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-o-mahony-4333b456/ Jesse - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesse-williamson/ Kensington Tennis Club - https://www.kensingtontennisclub.com/ Alphapicks - https://www.alphapicks.co.uk/ Chapters: 0:00 - Welcome ๐พ 0:46 - Introducing the AlphaPicks Team ๐ 2:51 - Origin Stories: Sparking an Interest in Finance ๐ก 5:37 - The Founding of AlphaPicks & Early Challenges โ๏ธ 8:45 - From a Top Bank to a Startup: Alex's Journey ๐ฆ 10:33 - The AlphaPicks Philosophy: Teamwork, Mindset & Support ๐ค 14:54 - Building the Brand: Strategy, Setbacks & Standing Out ๐ฏ 20:47 - Behind the Scenes: How the Team Met & Cross-Pollination ๐ 40:54 - Trading Philosophies & Market Approach ๐ง 50:19 - Trading Realities: Myths, Mistakes & Lessons Learned ๐ฅ 55:36 - Market Outlook 2025: Key Themes & Current Sentiment ๐ค 1:06:44 - Advice for Aspiring Professionals ๐ 1:16:49 - Reflections & Key Takeaways ๐ 1:22:39 - Final Thanks ๐ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 09: Markets in May and What Comes Next - with Dylan Ilett and Jeremy Okornoe | 02 Jun 2025 | 01:02:29 | |
Markets moved, headlines hit hard, and May delivered more twists than a Netflix dramaโฆ ๐๐ Welcome to the NINTH episode of The Smart Money Show! This week, our Head of Equities, Dylan Ilett, and Head of Crypto, Jeremy Okornoe, break down all the major market-moving headlines from May. From fresh UK and US economic data to shifting central bank expectations, weโll cover what the numbers are telling us, and how markets are reacting. We also dig into the latest Trump drama, including rumours of a Saudi oil deal and his ongoing feud with Fed Chair, Jerome Powell. On the equities side, our experts dissect NVIDIAโs blowout earnings, explore whatโs really behind the latest wave of Tesla headlines and question whether investor sentiment is starting to shift on Elonโs empire. ๐ค Weโll also unpack the UKโs latest crypto legislation, what it means for institutions and the wider market, before wrapping up with a lightning round on Mayโs biggest crypto headlines, key technical levels, and how weโre thinking about Q3 positioning. Whether youโre into macro, equities, or crypto, this oneโs a full-spectrum recap with sharp insights and clear takeaways. Make sure not to miss it! ๐ Guest Contacts: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-okornoe-1aa902263/ + ย @JezzaBTCย https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylan-ilett/ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://linktr.ee/thesmartmoneyshow As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Chapters: 0:00 - Welcome ๐๏ธ 1:00 - Episode Overview ๐ 3:17 - UK Economic Data & Political Climate ๐ฌ๐ง 7:47 - US Economic Data & Market Uncertainty ๐บ๐ธ 14:45 - The Trump Saudi Deal & Tech Sector Impact ๐ธ๐ฆ 19:59 - Trump vs. Powell: Dynamics & Future Scenarios โ๏ธ 26:54 - Tariff Turmoil: Global Impacts & US Court Ruling ๐ 34:45 - Nvidia's Earnings Boom & Tech Market Reaction ๐ป 38:48 - UK's New Crypto Legislation: Bitcoin Reserve? โฟ 42:40 - Tesla's Recent Troubles & Elon's Outlook ๐ 53:53 - Other Crypto News: Institutional FOMO & Altcoins ๐ 59:12 - Outro ๐ฌ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so | |||
| Episode 08: Consulting at the Top and Creating on the Side - with Jack Kim | 26 May 2025 | 01:08:06 | |
If youโre on Finance TikTok, todayโs guest needs no introduction... ๐๐ผ Welcome to the EIGHTH episode of The Smart Money Show! Weโre joined by none other than Jack Kim, also known as 'The Korean Consultant' - a viral content creator known for breaking down the world of financial services with humour, insights and knowledge. With over 30k followers across TikTok and Instagram, Jack has been on a mission much like ours, demystifying the industry for those looking to break into finance. ๐ฏ But Jack isnโt just a content creator, by day, heโs a senior consultant at one of the most prestigious consulting firms in the world, and has previously worked at one of the Big 4โs consulting arms. ๐คฏ In this episode, we will learn what first sparked his interest in the financial services sector, the behind-the-scenes of navigating a top-tier consulting career and the challenges heโs faced (and overcome) along the way both online and in the boardroom. Whether you're aiming for consulting, curious about content creation, or just love a good career story. This is an episode you wonโt want to miss. ๐ฅ Guest Contacts: https://www.instagram.com/koreanconsultant/ https://www.tiktok.com/@koreanconsultant?lang=en Check out our work and connect with us here: https://linktr.ee/thesmartmoneyshow As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Chapters: 0:00 - Welcome & Guest Intro ๐๏ธ 3:14 - Jack's Unique Upbringing & Educational Path ๐ 7:43 - Early Finance Aspirations, Challenges & Doubts ๐ค 19:30 - University Insights ๐ 33:50 - Navigating the Consulting Career Ladder ๐ช 43:40 - Debunking Common Consulting Misconceptions ๐ง 49:40 - Key Skills for a Successful Consulting Career ๐ 53:16 - TikTok & Balancing Content Creation ๐ฑ 58:03 - Future Plans: Entrepreneurship & EdTech ๐ 59:50 - Jack's Proudest Career Moments โจ 1:01:42 - Advice for His Younger Self ๐ 1:04:13 - It's About More Than the "Dream Job" ๐ 1:06:24 - Final Thoughts & Outro ๐ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 07: Working on the Buy-Side and the Sell-Side - with Harry Billen | 19 May 2025 | 00:58:23 | |
To say todayโs guest has had a diverse life is an understatement... ๐๐ผ Welcome to the SEVENTH episode of The Smart Money Show! We're joined by Harry Billen who started with a maths degree, became a musician featured on national radio, to now working in Investment Banking at Stifel Financial Corp. Whatโs more, heโs also the co-founder of Mirum, an events business, and is a Chartered Accountant. ๐คฏ Sitting down with such a fascinating individual (for the 2nd time, after his appearance on our launch episode roundtable ๐) was a pleasure: we discuss how heโs managed to succeed in these different roles within and beyond finance and how heโs managed his career progression, given his unique pathway. Plus, we also get into key differences between the BUY-SIDE and the SELL-SIDE! As Harry has had the chance to work on both, he drops some crazy anecdotes and worthwhile lessons for aspiring finance professionals! ๐ซก Guest Contacts: โฌ๏ธ Life + Finance: https://www.youtube.com/@hbdoeslife https://www.tiktok.com/@hbdoeslife https://www.linkedin.com/in/harry-billen-946a3682/ Music: https://www.tiktok.com/@itsreallyhb https://linktr.ee/itsreallyhb https://www.instagram.com/itsreallyhb/ Mirum: https://www.linkedin.com/company/themirum/posts/?feedView=all https://www.instagram.com/themirumuk/ https://www.tiktok.com/@themirumuk Check out our work and connect with us here: https://linktr.ee/thesmartmoneyshow As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Chapters: 0:11 Intro ๐ค 0:49 Introducing Harry Billen โจ 1:26 Harry's Journey & Advice ๐ 2:14 Growing Up & Education ๐ 4:12 Aiming for Investment Banking ๐ฆ 6:31 Front Office Role & Exposure ๐ 9:00 Importance of A-Levels ๐ค 12:07 Frustration & Benchmarks ๐ 14:18 Deloitte & Internal Moves ๐ข 16:40 Getting into Public M&A ๐ค 17:55 Overcoming Doubts ๐ช 20:39 Buy-Side Middle Office Role ๐ 22:39 Analyst to Fund Manager & CFA ๐ก 25:46 Solving Problems at Deloitte ๐ง 28:52 Misconceptions of Investment Banking ๐คฅ 30:55 Advice on Finding Your Path ๐งญ 33:51 Proudest Moment โค๏ธ 36:41 Buy-Side vs. Sell-Side Culture ๐ 38:53 Why Bankers Work Long Hours โฐ 41:39 Choosing Buy/Sell-Side Factors โก๏ธ 44:46 Music & Entrepreneurship ๐ถ 47:18 Starting Mirum Business ๐ก 49:10 Balancing Passions โ๏ธ 51:58 Future Plans & Tips ๐ 54:37 Advice to Younger Self ๐ฃ๏ธ 55:51 Don't Give Up! ๐ 57:52 Outro ๐ Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 06: Lessons on Securing and Converting Internships - with Rebecca Knowles | 12 May 2025 | 01:06:24 | |
Here is the SIXTH episode of The Smart Money Show! ๐คฉ After last weekโs Q1 recap, weโre back to our regular episodes, featuring another accomplished student - Rebecca Knowles. Studying Economics at the University of Nottingham, Rebecca has achieved the dream pathway of a spring week, to a summer internship to landing a grad role at Deloitte. Following her internship last summer, she will be starting as an M&A grad at one of the 'Big Four' in September. She has thrown herself into an array of roles at Nottingham, being an analyst in the tech, equity and consulting divisions of the Nottingham Economics and Finance Society (NEFS), currently serving as the Consulting director. Beyond this, sheโs been a trading researcher, building on her experience as part of the Nottingham Trading and Investment Society. This is a jam-packed episode, talking through Rebeccaโs experience applying and maximising these opportunities, her extensive knowledge of finance and consulting (along with what it takes to succeed in the fields) and her advice on making the most of university societies. Plenty to listen to and learn! Guest Contacts: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebeccaknowles204/ Check out our work and connect with us here: โhttps://linktr.ee/thesmartmoneyshow As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Chapters: 0:00 - Intro ๐ 3:05 - Early Life & Finance Shift ๐ 8:40 - Internship Application Strategy โ๏ธ 13:26 - Standing Out & Framing Experience ๐ 16:53 - Common Application Mistakes ๐คฆโโ๏ธ 22:28 - Spring & Summer Internship Mindset ๐ฑ 32:57 - Excelling in Your Summer Internship ๐ 40:10 - Understanding Finance Consulting ๐ค 44:48 - Consulting Misconceptions & Reality ๐คฅ 47:58 - Essential Skills for Consulting ๐ ๏ธ 50:04 - Gaining Relevant Student Experience ๐ 53:52 - Extracurriculars & Career Impact ๐ค 55:55 - Balancing Commitments & Advice โ๏ธ 59:53 - Proudest Achievement & Key Takeaway ๐ 1:05:35 - Outro ๐ซก Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 05: Continuing Trump Fallout and a Q1 Recap - with Dylan Ilett and Jeremy Okornoe | 05 May 2025 | 01:02:29 | |
It's time for a recap of the last few crazy months... ๐ Welcome to the FIFTH episode of The Smart Money Show! In this episode, our Head of Equities, Dylan Ilett, and Head of Crypto, Jeremy Okornoe, recap the latest market trends. Expect thorough research and explanations, focusing on crypto and equity markets. From Trump's unpredictable moves to Bitcoin's growing role as a strategic asset, we'll break down all the complex stuff. Our research and crypto experts will be with you every step of the way, transforming confusing news into clear insights about what's happening now and what's coming next in the world of finance. Guest Contacts: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-okornoe-1aa902263/ + @JezzaBTC https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylan-ilett/ Check out our work and connect with us here: โhttps://linktr.ee/thesmartmoneyshow As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Chapters: 0:00 - Intro ๐ 2:19 - US Economic Data Q1 ๐บ๐ธ 3:20 - US Inflation & Rates ๐ 5:25 - Under the Radar US News ๐ค 6:40 - UK Economic Data Q1 ๐ฌ๐ง 10:24 - FTSE vs. S&P ๐ 14:50 - Bitcoin vs. S&P ๐ 25:27 - Trump's Tariffs ๐ก๏ธ 31:54 - Trump vs. Powell ๐ฅ 40:02 - Bitcoin Strategic Reserve ๐ฆ 44:50 - Trump & Powell Clash ๐ 50:40 - Bitcoin On-Chain Data ๐ 57:58 - Bank Earnings Recap ๐ฆ 1:00:49 - Outro ๐ #podcastโ #financeโ #studentsโ #episodeโ #subscribeโ #weeklyโ #conversationโ #laughsโ #followusโ #smartmoneyโ #recap #report Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 04: Breaking Into Finance and Running a Student Organisation - with Riyadh Rehman and Sahil Shahzad | 28 Apr 2025 | 01:06:27 | |
The number of students just DOUBLED! ๐คฉ Welcome to the FOURTH episode of The Smart Money Show! What a coincidence - weโve got four students on the show this week: Young Asians in Financeโs founder, Riyadh Rehman, and COO, Sahil Shahzad! Along with your two favourite hosts, Ali and Noman! ๐ Riyadh is a Politics student at Queen Maryโs, fresh off a spring week in Investment Banking at Morgan Stanley. Before this, he took a gap year and started YAF, as well as gaining work experience at Morgan Stanley and Greenhill & Co. Alongside him in this episode, Sahil is an Audit Trainee at BDO, choosing the apprenticeship route during his gap year, and is completing the valuable ACA qualification on the side. โ๏ธ This is a wide-ranging episode, where we ask Riyadh and Sahil to reflect on their starts in finance; the initial interest and motivation, the thought process behind the paths theyโve taken and their advice on applications, having gotten through them successfully. We also talk about their experience running YAF and their passion for social mobility, finishing up with where they see their future going next. ๐ Plenty of advice here to guide your early journey into finance - enjoy! Guest Contacts: Riyadh - https://www.linkedin.com/in/riyadh-rehman/ Sahil - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sahil-shahzad/ YAF - https://linktr.ee/youngasiansinfinance As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we deliver you unique and fresh perspectives, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Check out our work and connect with us here: https://linktr.ee/thesmartmoneyshow Chapters: 0:00 Intro ๐ 0:37 Introducing Riyadh & Sahil ๐ 1:10 Riyadh's Early Life ๐ฐ 5:08 Sahil's Education ๐ 10:34 Finance Misconceptions ๐ค 13:51 Maths in Finance โ 16:30 Sahil's Apprenticeship โก๏ธ 21:23 Riyadh's University Path ๐ 25:50 Sahil: Work & Study โ๏ธ 29:59 Riyadh: Balancing Life ๐๏ธ 33:44 Application Tips ๐ 40:43 Learning from Failure ๐ก 42:30 What is YAF? ๐ 43:44 Riyadh's YAF Inspiration โจ 47:26 Bridging with YAF ๐ 49:54 Barriers for Young Asians ๐ง 55:07 Get Involved with YAF ๐ค 57:59 Future Plans ๐ 1:00:44 Proudest Moments ๐ 1:02:42 Advice to Self ๐งโ๐ซ 1:03:17 Biggest Takeaway ๐ฏ 1:06:00 Outro ๐ #podcast #finance #students #episode #subscribe #weekly #conversation #laughs #followus #smartmoney #investments Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 03: Managing and Achieving Constant Career Progression - with Chris Yiannakou | 21 Apr 2025 | 01:17:00 | |
Did someone say our BIGGEST episode yet?!
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| Episode 02: Introducing the Founding Team - with Dylan Ilett and Jeremy Okornoe | 14 Apr 2025 | 00:54:44 | |
Back with consistent and quality episodes...
As we just relaunched the show last week, it's time to reintroduce the founding team! It's been a while but we're joined by our Head of Equities, Dylan Ilett and our Head of Crypto, Jeremy Okornoe.
Guest Contacts: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-okornoe-1aa902263/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylan-ilett/ We unpack what it really takes to get into elite finance, from the skills you need to the technical and commercial knowledge you'll learn. We also get into the real ups and downs โ the stress, the work-life balance, and the shift towards hybrid working. Plus, we chat about why a diverse team matters and how you can actually build a career in finance. ๐ฐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Chapters: 00:00 Intro ๐ 03:34 Early Life & Education ๐ 06:57 Sparking Interest in Finance ๐ฐ 09:13 Diving into Crypto โฟ 10:12 Overcoming Market Challenges ๐ 15:48 Resources for Market Expertise ๐งโ๐ซ 23:51 Long-Term Finance Goals ๐ฎ 29:03 5-10 Year Career Plans ๐๏ธ 32:07 What Drives Career Motivation ๐ 37:56 Current Global Economy ๐ 42:31 Factors Driving Market Trends ๐ 48:31 Team Projects & Focus ๐ฏ 51:20 Advice for Finance Students ๐ก 53:30 Outro ๐ #podcast #finance #students #episode #subscribe #weekly #conversation #laughs #followus #smartmoney Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| Episode 01: Exploring and Comparing Elite Finance Divisions - with Harry Billen, Samantha Zhou, Ivelin Stankov and Nicole Cunliffe | 07 Apr 2025 | 01:12:22 | |
To our audience old and new... Welcome to the VERY first episode of The Smart Money Show! ๐ซก To kick off this new era of the show, we thought we should either go big or go home! That's why we're so privileged to be joined by FOUR seasoned finance professionals from differing divisions, as part of our very first Industry Roundtable episode. On our panel is: - Harry Billen: an Investment Banking Analyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/harry-billen-946a3682/ - Samantha Zhou: a Portfolio Analytics Specialist - https://www.linkedin.com/in/samantha-zhou/ - Ivelin Stankov: a Private Banking Analyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ivelin-stankov/ - Nicole Cunliffe: a Private Markets Analyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-cunliffe-a63065195/ We unpack what it really takes to get into elite finance, from the skills you need to the technical and commercial knowledge you'll learn. We also get into the real ups and downs โ the stress, the work-life balance, and the shift towards hybrid working. Plus, we chat about why a diverse team matters and how you can actually build a career in finance. ๐ฐ As always, stay tuned to us weekly as we bring you unheard insights, professional guests and a few laughs! ๐ Chapters: 00:00:00 Intro ๐ 00:01:04 Guest Introductions ๐ 00:02:12 Breaking into Finance ๐ช 00:02:37 Career Journeys ๐ 00:10:22 Hiring Advice ๐ 00:13:10 Application & Interview Tips โ 00:17:54 Essential Finance Skills ๐ช 00:22:41 Networking ๐ค 00:28:46 Commercial Knowledge ๐ก 00:37:23 Handling Challenges ๐ฅ 00:46:40 Managing Stress ๐ง 00:55:00 Diversity in Finance ๐ 01:01:37 Authentic D&I ๐ 01:05:49 Best Advice โจ 01:11:17 Outro ๐ #podcast #finance #students #episode #subscribe #weekly #conversation #laughs #followus #dumbmoney Please be advised, none of our episodes constitute as financial advice and we will never attempt to do so. | |||
| We're Back! ๐ | 03 Apr 2025 | 00:02:05 | |
It's been a month of no episodes, content or insights from The Smart Money Show... ๐
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