"Does a corporate paycheck grant you the ethical right to monitor and analyze a person's physical geometry while they work forty hours a week?"

This week Dr. Logan F. Martin and James Junkin tackle one of the most pressing questions in safety right now: where is the line between using AI to protect workers and using it to surveil them?

In a warehouse setting, AI monitoring reduced slips, trips, and falls by twenty percent. Employee anxiety and turnover went up forty percent. That is the tension at the heart of this episode.

ABOUT THE RISK MATRIX PODCAST

Buckle up, safety pros! The Risk Matrix brings you a weekly podcast masterclass in risk management, hosted by two industry titans:

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. L.F. Martin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: 32-year veteran, Board of Global EHS Credentialing Impact Award winner

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠James Junkin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: Trainer of 40,000+ safety pros, ASSP's 2024 Safety Professional of the Year

They're tackling the topics that keep safety managers up at night featuring guests from regulatory bodies to safety directors and everything in between.

Every Tuesday: The tough conversations safety managers need to have. Critical insights from safety experts. Real-world strategies. Actionable solutions.

The Risk Matrix Podcast is powered by Veriforce: Bringing workers home safe from high-hazard jobs. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.veriforce.com⁠

"When you get a violation, it's not a suggestion to fix your safety management system. It's not a suggestion to do the training."

This week Dr. Logan F. Martin and James Junkin break down why some companies treat OSHA violations as suggestions, what happens when willful and repeat violations stack up, and why the biggest consequence is not the fine.

ABOUT THE RISK MATRIX PODCAST

Buckle up, safety pros! The Risk Matrix brings you a weekly podcast masterclass in risk management, hosted by two industry titans:

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. L.F. Martin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: 32-year veteran, Board of Global EHS Credentialing Impact Award winner

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠James Junkin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: Trainer of 40,000+ safety pros, ASSP's 2024 Safety Professional of the Year

They're tackling the topics that keep safety managers up at night featuring guests from regulatory bodies to safety directors and everything in between.

Every Tuesday: The tough conversations safety managers need to have. Critical insights from safety experts. Real-world strategies. Actionable solutions.

The Risk Matrix Podcast is powered by Veriforce: Bringing workers home safe from high-hazard jobs. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.veriforce.com⁠

"When one thing rises, especially on existing bids within a supply chain, you have to make that up some other way. And a lot of times that some other way goes with not using the materials that you planned to use, maybe using something different, something cheaper, maybe something not quite as safe."

This week, Dr. Logan F. Martin and James Junkin break down what Operation Epic Fury means for your safety program.

They unpack how rising fuel costs, supply chain instability, and budget pressure create cascading hazards on the ground, and how proactive safety leaders can get ahead of it before it becomes an emergency.

RESOURCES:

• James Junkin's blog: "How Operation Epic Fury Is Reshaping Safety Risks Across American Workplaces" - https://veriforce.com/blog/how-operation-epic-fury-is-reshaping-safety-risks-across-american-workplaces
• I. David Daniels: "Before the Sirens" - https://doctoridavidd.substack.com/p/before-the-sirens

• James Junkin: "Organizational Change Begins by Listening to Workers" - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/organizational-change-begins-listening-workers-james-qvxle/

ABOUT THE RISK MATRIX PODCAST

Buckle up, safety pros! The Risk Matrix brings you a weekly podcast masterclass in risk management, hosted by two industry titans:

⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. L.F. Martin⁠⁠⁠⁠: 32-year veteran, Board of Global EHS Credentialing Impact Award winner

⁠⁠⁠⁠James Junkin⁠⁠⁠⁠: Trainer of 40,000+ safety pros, ASSP's 2024 Safety Professional of the Year

They're tackling the topics that keep safety managers up at night featuring guests from regulatory bodies to safety directors and everything in between.

Every Tuesday: The tough conversations safety managers need to have. Critical insights from safety experts. Real-world strategies. Actionable solutions.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

"I've seen duct-taped rungs on a ladder once. There are all types of things that you see. This is why ladder safety has its own month."

This week Dr. Martin and James tackle ladder safety head on, covering what OSHA is looking for, common mistakes seen in the field, free resources most safety pros don't know about, and the one question you must answer before putting workers at height.

INSIDE THE EPISODE:

⚠️ Before putting anyone at height, answer this first: how do you get them down? A rescue plan that starts and ends with 911 is not a rescue plan.

⚠️ If it isn't documented, it didn't happen. Ladder inspections, worker training, demonstrated competency, all of it needs to be on paper.

⚠️ Don't wait for a national stand down. Run your own. Take 30 minutes, use the free resources covered in this episode, and make it the whole month, not just a single toolbox talk. Invite vendors, they'll bring free training with them.

RESOURCES:American Ladder Institute: laddersafetytraining.org | laddersafetymonth.com

NIOSH Ladder Safety App: cdc.gov/niosh/falls/ladder/ladder-safety-app.html

OSHA Ladder Safety: https://www.osha.gov/stop-falls/plan-provide-train

Werner Ladder: wernerco.com

Louisville Ladder: https://louisvilleladder.com/ladder-training/

ASSP: assp.org

ABOUT THE RISK MATRIX PODCAST

Buckle up, safety pros! The Risk Matrix brings you a weekly podcast masterclass in risk management, hosted by two industry titans:

⁠⁠⁠Dr. L.F. Martin⁠⁠⁠: 32-year veteran, Board of Global EHS Credentialing Impact Award winner

⁠⁠⁠James Junkin⁠⁠⁠: Trainer of 40,000+ safety pros, ASSP's 2024 Safety Professional of the Year

They're tackling the topics that keep safety managers up at night featuring guests from regulatory bodies to safety directors and everything in between.

Every Tuesday: The tough conversations safety managers need to have. Critical insights from safety experts. Real-world strategies. Actionable solutions.

The Risk Matrix Podcast is powered by Veriforce: Bringing workers home safe from high-hazard jobs. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠www.veriforce.com⁠

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

"Simultaneous operations is not a checkbox. Just by the nature of the term, simultaneous operations mean more than one operation, and that means calling out exactly what's happening."

This week, Dr. Martin and James Junkin break down why SimOps coordination failures keep killing workers, using recent H2S incidents and the Chemical Safety Board's investigation into the fatal release at Pemex Deer Park Refinery.

They discuss the Swiss cheese model in action: permits that tried to do too much, high-consequence work buried in documentation, and life-saving information that never reached the workers who needed it. From Michigan well cleanings to Colorado dairy farms to construction sites, when SimOps becomes a checkbox and permits create an illusion of sameness, workers die.

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

⚠️ Illusion of sameness buries high-consequence work. When briefings become routine, critical information never reaches the workers who need it.

⚠️ Drift compounds when multiple teams work side by side. Individual drift is dangerous. Collective drift across contractors creates collisions. Communication must account for what's happening in adjacent work areas, not just your own task.

⚠️ Work as imagined rarely matches work as performed. Audits should verify whether procedures reflect reality. When the JHA doesn't match the field, stop and communicate what changed, what the hazards are, and how to respond.

RESOURCES:

James's LinkedIn Article: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/lessons-sour-wind-what-deer-park-hs-release-still-has-james-wiace/

Veriforce H2S Clear for Energy: https://veriforce.com/course/h2s-clear-for-energy

Chemical Safety Board Press Release: https://www.csb.gov/us-chemical-safety-board-releases-investigation-report-on-fatal-hydrogen-sulfide-release-at-the-pemex-deer-park-refinery-in-texas/

Chemical Safety Board Investigation Report: https://www.csb.gov/assets/1/6/pemex_investigation_report_final.pdf

ABOUT THE RISK MATRIX PODCAST

Buckle up, safety pros! The Risk Matrix brings you a weekly podcast masterclass in risk management, hosted by two industry titans:

⁠⁠⁠Dr. L.F. Martin⁠⁠⁠: 32-year veteran, Board of Global EHS Credentialing Impact Award winner

⁠⁠⁠James Junkin⁠⁠⁠: Trainer of 40,000+ safety pros, ASSP's 2024 Safety Professional of the Year

They're tackling the topics that keep safety managers up at night featuring guests from regulatory bodies to safety directors and everything in between.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

"Organizations don't have a tool to effectively measure and manage fatigue, so it's very difficult for them to know how much of a problem it is."

This week, Dr. Logan F. Martin and James Junkin are joined by Marcus de Guingand, Managing Director at Third Pillar of Health, to discuss his workplace fatigue research.

Marcus's team gathered data from 795 participants across construction and transportation industries, tracking nearly 6,000 working days. What they found: 48% of workers aren't getting the minimum 7 hours of sleep before work, 81% are carrying sleep debt, and while fatigue accounts for 20% of road traffic collisions and 13% of workplace injuries, most companies have no idea if fatigue played a role in their incidents because they don't have tools to measure it.

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

⚠️ Organizations don't have tools to measure fatigue. Most companies have no idea if fatigue played a role in their incidents because they can't measure it. If they knew fatigue accounted for 20% of crashes and 13% of injuries, they'd be discussing it at board level.

⚠️ Fatigue costs $1,800 per employee per year. That's $640 in healthcare, $620 in productivity, and $545 in absenteeism. For a 100-person company, that's enough money to hire an extra worker instead of pushing everyone beyond safe limits.

⚠️ Workers can't self-diagnose fatigue impairment. Research shows that as workers get more fatigued, they struggle to identify hazards and eventually reach a point where even if they see a hazard, they physically can't avoid it.

ABOUT THE GUEST:

Marcus de Guingand is the managing director of Third Pillar of Health, home of Alert-Risk, the sleep health self-assessment as well as the MyAlertness and Shift-Risk apps. Marcus recently completed two major studies of fatigue across multiple industries, gathering over 137,000 data points from 795 workers across approximately 6,000 separate working days using the custom-built Shift-Risk app. His team created a new biomathematical model of fatigue with three modules: accident and incident investigation, Individual Risk Assessment (15-minute windows of fatigue risk), and Works Planning (identifying when fatigue risk is elevated in shift patterns).

RESOURCES:

Alert-Risk App: www.alert-risk.com

Third Pillar of Health: www.thirdpillarofhealth.com

Marcus de Guingand LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcusdeguingand/

ABOUT THE RISK MATRIX PODCAST

Buckle up, safety pros! The Risk Matrix brings you a weekly podcast masterclass in risk management, hosted by two industry titans:

⁠⁠Dr. L.F. Martin⁠⁠: 32-year veteran, Board of Global EHS Credentialing Impact Award winner

⁠⁠James Junkin⁠⁠: Trainer of 40,000+ safety pros, ASSP's 2024 Safety Professional of the Year

They're tackling the topics that keep safety managers up at night featuring guests from regulatory bodies to safety directors and everything in between.

Every Tuesday: The tough conversations safety managers need to have. Critical insights from safety experts. Real-world strategies. Actionable solutions.

The Risk Matrix Podcast is powered by Veriforce: Bringing workers home safe from high-hazard jobs. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠www.veriforce.com⁠

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

Special guest Bill Henderson will explore the role of the L word in technology used to manage safety systems and to use data effectively. Sponsored by partner SiteDocs, tune in to episode 7 of The Risk Matrix and gain valuable insights to enhance your safety practices! ******** The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

Just as rumble strips on highways prevent accidents, we need equivalent safeguards in human operations. Join us for this episode of Risk Matrix featuring Dr. Simon Goncharenko who shares a unique life journey that includes being near Chernobyl during the infamous incident. Discover how this defining moment shaped his perspective on safety culture and human performance. Hosted by James Junkin and Dr. Martin, and sponsored by Veriforce HUB partner Predictive Safety. ******** The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

Are you doing enough to protect your Hispanic workers in high-risk industries? Hispanics represent 78% of new workers, yet they face alarming fatality rates. In this episode, James Junkin and Dr. L.F. Martin, along with special guest Yara Carrillo, EHS Principal Consultant at DEKRA North America, shed light on the challenges faced by Hispanic and Latino workers, providing eye-opening statistics on their growing presence in the workforce. Tune in to gain valuable insights and promote a safer working environment for all. ******** The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. L.F. Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

"509 expired drug and alcohol tests. 91 missing background checks. 52 fake IDs."

This week Dr. Martin and James sit down with Chris Detillier, HSE Manager at Veriforce, to discuss the contractor worker credentialing gap that's costing companies millions and creating serious safety and security risks.

Inside the Episode:

⚠️ Company pre-qualification isn't enough. The real breakdown happens at the worker level. You can pre-qualify a contractor company, but if individual workers show up without proper credentials, you have a compliance and safety gap.

⚠️ Digital credentialing saves time and money. Workers waiting at the gate for missing credentials costs real money. Pre-verifying worker qualifications before they arrive eliminates delays and gets workers to work immediately.

⚠️ Compliance gaps are bigger than you think. The utility case study uncovered 509 expired drug/alcohol tests, 91 missing background checks, and 52 fake IDs that slipped through manual processes.

About Chris Detillier:

Chris Detillier is the HSE Manager at Veriforce in the Expert Services Department. He holds associate degrees in petroleum technology and safety technology from Nicholls State University and is an ASP from BCSP with his Master Safety Professional designation.

ABOUT THE RISK MATRIX PODCAST

Buckle up, safety pros! The Risk Matrix brings you a weekly podcast masterclass in risk management, hosted by two industry titans:

⁠Dr. L.F. Martin⁠: 32-year veteran, Board of Global EHS Credentialing Impact Award winner

⁠James Junkin⁠: Trainer of 40,000+ safety pros, ASSP's 2024 Safety Professional of the Year

They're tackling the topics that keep safety managers up at night featuring guests from regulatory bodies to safety directors and everything in between.

Every Tuesday: The tough conversations safety managers need to have. Critical insights from safety experts. Real-world strategies. Actionable solutions.

The Risk Matrix Podcast is powered by Veriforce: Bringing workers home safe from high-hazard jobs. Learn more at ⁠⁠www.veriforce.com⁠

We're uncovering the dark truth of human error. What happens when a good safety system is in place, but someone still makes a wrong decision? Join us as we explore the role of workers, safety culture, and accountability in preventing incidents. ******** The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. Linda Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

Feeling the burnout? Discover the WHY's and SOLUTIONS to overcome burnout in the safety profession with James Junkin and Dr. Martin on the latest episode of the Risk Matrix podcast! ******** The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. Linda Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.

In episode 2, listen to James Junkin and Dr. Martin debate hazards on the field. "Hazards are still not being assessed, identified, and risk determined in the planning stages of the work. Hazards are being assessed when they get to the field." ******** The Risk Matrix is your premier destination for insightful discussions on risk management and health and safety, with captivating topics, insightful strategies, and more. Hosted by James Junkin MS, CSP, MSP, SMS, ASP, CSHO Chief Executive Officer at Mariner-Gulf Consulting & Services, Veriforce Master Trainer, and Chairman of the Veriforce Strategic Advisory Board and Dr. Linda Martin, PhD, MBA, PMP, CIH, CSP, a Technical Expert in Health and Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Risk, Auditing/Inspection, and ESG.