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As the PRI marks its 20th anniversary, responsible investment stands at a turning point. In an investment landscape that has grown more complex, what will it take to shape the next chapter of responsible investment?  

Cambria Allen-Ratzlaff, Interim CEO of the PRI, is joined by Josselin Kalifa, CIO of Caisse des Dépôts Asset Management and Co-Chair of the Net Zero Asset Owner Alliance, and Anne-Marie Chidzero, CIO at FSD Africa Investments.Together, they explore why responsible investment is increasingly recognised as simply good investment, how emerging markets are shaping the future of sustainable finance, and how investors navigate a more complex and fragmented global landscape. 

From capital mobilisation and blended finance to technology, resilience and the next generation of investment leaders, the conversation looks ahead to what will make responsible investment more credible, more relevant and more effective over the next 20 years.

Detailed coverage:

Responsible investment is good investment
The guests discuss how ESG considerations have become embedded within investment processes, with responsible investment increasingly viewed as applying sound judgement, managing long-term risks and identifying material drivers of value.

Emerging markets are shaping the future
Anne-Marie explains how African financial markets are developing their own responsible investment approaches, with growing pools of domestic capital helping finance solutions tailored to local economic, social and environmental priorities.

Maintaining credibility through financial materiality
The conversation explores why responsible investment must remain grounded in evidence, financial relevance and measurable outcomes rather than ideology, particularly in an increasingly fragmented political environment.

Mobilising capital for sustainable growth
Examples from African capital markets demonstrate how collaboration between development finance institutions, private investors and local markets can unlock innovative financing solutions for water, energy and natural capital.

The role of stewardship and asset owners
Josselin reflects on how asset owners can influence long-term outcomes through investment decisions, manager selection, voting and ongoing engagement with portfolio companies.

Technology, resilience and the future of finance
The guests discuss the growing importance of digital resilience, AI, data quality and stronger financial infrastructure in supporting sustainable economic development.

A multidisciplinary future
The episode concludes by encouraging the next generation of investment professionals to combine financial expertise with disciplines such as climate science, technology, geopolitics and demography to navigate an increasingly complex investment landscape.

Chapters:

00:00 – Introduction: 20 years of the PRI and responsible investment
04:12 – Why responsible investment is now simply good investment
06:43 – Emerging markets and Africa's growing influence
10:27 – Remaining credible in a changing global landscape
16:16 – Financing inclusive growth and resilient economies
19:43 – The role of asset owners and stewardship
24:21 – Technology, innovation and deepening capital markets
27:38 – Partnerships to mobilise sustainable finance
30:27 – Advice for the next generation of investors
33:10 – Final reflections on the next 20 years of responsible investment

Disclaimer:

This podcast and material referenced herein is provided for information only. It is not intended to be investment, legal, tax or other advice, nor is it intended to be relied upon in making an investment or other decision. PRI Association is not responsible for any decision made or action taken based on information on this podcast. Listeners retain sole discretion over whether and how to use the information contained herein. PRI Association is not responsible for and does not endorse third parties featured on in this podcast or any third-party comments, content or other resources that may be included or referenced herein. Unless otherwise stated, podcast content does not necessarily represent the views of signatories to the Principles for Responsible Investment. All information is provided "as is" with no guarantee of completeness, accuracy or timeliness, or of the results obtained from the use of this information, and without warranty of any kind, expressed or implied. PRI Association is committed to compliance with all applicable laws. Copyright © PRI Association 2026. All rights reserved. This content may not be reproduced, or used for any other purpose, without the prior written consent of PRI Association.

In this episode, Nathan Fabian, Chief Sustainable Systems Officer at the PRI, is joined by Elisabeth Andvig, Senior Investment Stewardship Manager at Norges Bank Investment Management, and Robert Lewenson, Head of Responsible Investment at Old Mutual Investment Group, to mark 15 years since the UN Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights (UNGPs) were endorsed.

Together, they reflect on how investor practice has evolved, the progress companies have made in embedding human rights due diligence, and the challenges that remain as investors navigate geopolitical uncertainty, supply chain disruption and the transition to a more sustainable global economy.

Overview:

15 years after the adoption of the UN Guiding Principles, human rights have become a core consideration for responsible investors. Yet implementation remains uneven, particularly when it comes to due diligence, access to remedy and adapting to an increasingly complex global environment.

This episode explores how investors can strengthen human rights stewardship, support a just transition and help ensure long-term value creation while respecting the rights of people across global supply chains.

Detailed coverage:

How investor practice has evolved
The guests reflect on how awareness of the UNGPs has grown over the past 15 years, with human rights moving from a niche sustainability issue to an increasingly integrated part of investment stewardship and corporate governance.

Human rights due diligence in practice
The conversation explores the progress companies have made in embedding due diligence processes, alongside the challenges investors face in assessing risks across large, global portfolios and complex supply chains.

A changing policy landscape
Nathan, Elisabeth and Robert discuss the impact of geopolitical fragmentation, evolving regulation and shifting global supply chains on responsible investment and human rights implementation.

Access to remedy and investor responsibility
The episode examines why access to remedy remains the least developed pillar of the UNGPs and considers how investors can use stewardship and engagement to encourage more effective corporate responses.

Human rights, inequality and the just transition
The discussion explores the relationship between human rights, economic inequality and the transition to a low-carbon economy, highlighting the importance of ensuring communities benefit alongside investors.

Looking ahead
The guests share their priorities for the next five years, from strengthening implementation and celebrating good practice to ensuring the UNGPs remain relevant in a rapidly changing investment landscape.

To learn more about the PRI's work on human rights and responsible investment, visit: https://public.unpri.org/investment-tools/stewardship/advance
https://www.unpri.org/deep-dive?id=an-introduction-to-responsible-investment-human-rights

Chapters:

00:00 – Introduction: 15 years of the UN Guiding Principles
04:48 – How human rights due diligence has evolved
11:55 – The challenges of implementation and global policy change
21:37 – Access to remedy: the forgotten pillar
31:40 – Human rights, inequality and economic inclusion
39:12 – The just transition and responsible mining
47:18 – Why long-term thinking matters for investors
53:46 – Celebrating leadership and sharing best practice
57:45 – Looking ahead: priorities for the next five years
01:01:32 – Final reflections

Disclaimer:

This podcast and material referenced herein is provided for information only. It is not intended to be investment, legal, tax or other advice, nor is it intended to be relied upon in making an investment or other decision. PRI Association is not responsible for any decision made or action taken based on information on this podcast. Listeners retain sole discretion over whether and how to use the information contained herein. PRI Association is not responsible for and does not endorse third parties featured on in this podcast or any third-party comments, content or other resources that may be included or referenced herein. Unless otherwise stated, podcast content does not necessarily represent the views of signatories to the Principles for Responsible Investment. All information is provided "as is" with no guarantee of completeness, accuracy or timeliness, or of the results obtained from the use of this information, and without warranty of any kind, expressed or implied. PRI Association is committed to compliance with all applicable laws. Copyright © PRI Association 2026. All rights reserved. This content may not be reproduced, or used for any other purpose, without the prior written consent of PRI Association.

In this episode, Nathan Fabian, Chief Sustainable Systems Officer at the PRI, explores how global policy frameworks are evolving to unlock private capital for sustainable development. He is joined by Helena Viñes Fiestas, Commissioner at the Spanish Financial Markets Authority and Co-Chair of the Taskforce on Net Zero Policy, and Eric Usher, Head of the UN Environment Programme Finance Initiative (UNEP FI) and PRI Board member.

The discussion focuses on the outcomes of the Fourth International Conference on Financing for Development in Seville and the significance of Paragraph 34 of the Seville Commitment, a milestone recognising the role of well-functioning financial markets in delivering the Sustainable Development Goals.

Overview

As public finance comes under pressure, governments are increasingly focused on creating enabling environments that attract long-term private investment, particularly in emerging and developing economies.

Helena and Eric explain why Paragraph 34 marks an important shift: embedding issues such as transparency, disclosures, taxonomies and market integrity into a multilateral development framework. They discuss how this convergence of development, climate and financial policy could help mobilise capital at scale, if implemented effectively.

Detailed coverage

From development aid to market-based solutions

Eric explains how financing for sustainable development has traditionally focused on public finance, debt and governance, but is now recognising the need for private capital and functioning financial markets to deliver long-term outcomes.

Policy momentum beyond Europe and North America

Helena shares findings from the Taskforce on Net Zero Policy, showing that most new sustainable finance policies adopted last year emerged outside Europe and North America, particularly across Asia-Pacific. She highlights why global companies and investors will increasingly need to align with these frameworks.

What’s inside Paragraph 34

The guests outline how Paragraph 34 references a broad set of tools, from sustainability disclosures and taxonomies to market transparency, covering environmental and social objectives across the SDGs.

Development banks, DFIs and private capital

Both guests reflect on the growing role of development finance institutions (DFIs) in de-risking investments and creating pathways for pension funds and asset managers to invest in emerging markets.

Taxonomies and interoperability

With over 50 taxonomies now in development globally, the discussion explores why interoperability, rather than a single global standard, is essential for attracting international capital while reflecting local economic realities.

From policy design to implementation

Helena highlights lessons from Europe’s experience: the need for better engagement with industry, tailored approaches for SMEs, capacity building for supervisors, and a stronger balance between incentives and regulation.

The responsibility of investing

In closing reflections, Eric emphasises dynamic materiality and the role of science in understanding long-term risk, while Helena highlights the growing responsibility of investors, and citizens, to align capital with sustainable outcomes.

For more information on the compromiso de sevilla, see our blog: https://public.unpri.org/pri-blog/the-compromiso-de-sevilla-a-milestone-in-the-growth-of-sustainable-finance-policy/13451.article

Chapters

1. 00:00 - Introduction
2. 01:30 - Paragraph 34 explained
3. 08:20 - Global policy momentum
4. 16:40 - Contents of paragraph 34
5. 24:10 - Implementation challenges
6. 32:20 - Taxonomy interoperability
7. 42:15 - Market expectations
8. 49:40 - Enforcement and lobbying
9. 56:20 - Responsibility of investing

Disclaimer

This podcast and material referenced herein is provided for information only. It is not intended to be investment, legal, tax or other advice, nor is it intended to be relied upon in making an investment or other decision. PRI Association is not responsible for any decision made or action taken based on information on this podcast. Listeners retain sole discretion over whether and how to use the information contained herein. PRI Association is not responsible for and does not endorse third parties featured on in this podcast or any third-party comments, content or other resources that may be included or referenced herein. Unless otherwise stated, podcast content does not necessarily represent the views of signatories to the Principles for Responsible Investment. All information is provided “as is” with no guarantee of completeness, accuracy or timeliness, or of the results obtained from the use of this information, and without warranty of any kind, expressed or implied. PRI Association is committed to compliance with all applicable laws. Copyright © PRI Association 2025. All rights reserved. This content may not be reproduced, or used for any other purpose, without the prior written consent of PRI Association.

In this episode, Nathan Fabian, Chief Sustainable Systems Officer at the PRI, examines rising economic inequality and why it poses a material, systemic risk for long-term investors. He is joined by Delaney Greig (Director of Investor Stewardship, University Pension Plan Ontario), Emma Douglas (Sustainable Investment & Stewardship Lead, Brightwell; BT Pension Scheme), and David Wood (Adjunct Lecturer in Public Policy, Harvard Kennedy School).

Together, they explore how inequality affects economic stability, corporate performance, long-horizon portfolio returns, and what asset owners can do to respond.

Overview

Ten years after the adoption of the SDGs, inequality is increasing across major economies. The top 1% now holds over 40% of global wealth, and widening gaps in income, labour rights and access to opportunity are shaping economic and political outcomes.

The guests discuss:

• Why inequality is a non-diversifiable, systemic risk
• How it undermines growth, resilience and productivity
• The implications for diversified investors
• The interplay between inequality, climate, nature and social outcomes
• How asset owners can use stewardship, integration and policy engagement to address key drivers

Detailed Coverage

1. Why inequality matters for investors

Delaney and Emma outline why rising inequality threatens long-term returns: weakening demand, increasing volatility, reducing workforce resilience, and fuelling political instability. Both highlight evidence linking excessive pay gaps and poor labour practices to weaker corporate performance.

2. What the research shows

David summarises major findings from the IMF, OECD and others showing that inequality constrains growth rather than accelerates it. He notes that investors have clearer data and frameworks today than ever before, and that social issues have become central to responsible investment.

3. Making inequality actionable

Emma discusses a new analysis tool developed with Cambri to map social risks across sectors, revealing under-examined areas such as technology, media and natural-resource-intensive industries.

Delaney explains UPP’s “top-and-bottom guardrails” approach, engaging on excessive executive pay at the top and fundamental labour rights at the bottom.

4. Stewardship, integration and policy

The panel discusses:

• Embedding social risks into investment processes
• Sector-level prioritisation
• Collective action on labour rights
• The emerging TISFD standard
• How investors should (and should not) engage in political debates around taxation, labour markets and redistribution

5. Looking ahead

Guests reflect on:

• Strengthening investor–manager dialogue
• Integrating inequality into capital allocation decisions
• Opportunities in areas such as affordable housing
• Addressing market concentration and competition issues
• The need for aligned, collective advocacy from asset owners
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Chapters

(0:00) - Introduction: Economic Inequality and Investment Risk 

(2:29) - Delaney Greg: Why Inequality Matters for Pension Plans 

(4:50) - Emma Douglas: Systemic Risk and Investment Opportunities 

(7:16) - David Wood: Research on Inequality and Growth 

(9:21) - Understanding the Drivers of Economic Inequality 

(11:51) - Emma's Approach: Using Data and AI for Social Risk Analysis 

(15:01) - Delaney's Strategy: Top-End and Bottom-End Guardrails 

(17:55) - Measuring Impact and Defining Success in Inequality Work 

(20:16) - Communicating to Beneficiaries and Avoiding Backlash 

(22:21) - The Financial Industry's Role in Addressing Inequality 

(24:15) - Government Policy and Investor Responsibilities 

(26:33) - Navigating Taxation and Political Considerations 

(29:37) - Policy Advocacy and Transparency for Asset Owners 

(30:57) - Looking Forward: Next Steps for Investors 

(33:27) - David Wood: Where the Investment Community Goes Next 

(36:08) - Panel Reflections: The Responsibility of Investing Today 

(38:55) - Closing Remarks and Future Commitments

Disclaimer

This podcast and material referenced herein is provided for information only. It is not intended to be investment, legal, tax or other advice, nor is it intended to be relied upon in making an investment or other decision. PRI Association is not responsible for any decision made or action taken based on information on this podcast. Listeners retain sole discretion over whether and how to use the information contained herein. PRI Association is not responsible for and does not endorse third parties featured on in this podcast or any third-party comments, content or other resources that may be included or referenced herein. Unless otherwise stated, podcast content does not necessarily represent the views of signatories to the Principles for Responsible Investment. All information is provided “as is” with no guarantee of completeness, accuracy or timeliness, or of the results obtained from the use of this information, and without warranty of any kind, expressed or implied. PRI Association is committed to compliance with all applicable laws. Copyright © PRI Association 2025. All rights reserved. This content may not be reproduced, or used for any other purpose, without the prior written consent of PRI Association.

In this episode, Tamsin Ballard, Chief Investor Initiatives Officer at the PRI, reflects on a pivotal COP30 in Belém and what it means for investors navigating the next phase of the net zero transition. She is joined by Jan Kæraa Rasmussen, Head of ESG and Sustainability at PensionDanmark and member of the UN-convened Net-Zero Asset Owner Alliance Steering Group, and Daniel Gallagher, Senior Lead on Climate at the PRI. Both guests were closely involved in investor engagement around COP30, offering on-the-ground insights from São Paulo and Belém.

Together, they unpack the shift from pledges to implementation, the growing involvement of finance ministries, and the rapidly evolving expectations for investors across mitigation, resilience and nature. They explore what COP30 delivered, and what still needs to happen to unlock the capital required for a global, just and investable transition.

Overview

COP30 marked a step change in how investors were integrated into climate discussions, with strong participation from finance ministries, MDBs, asset owners and global policymakers.

From São Paulo to Belém, conversations were more grounded in real-economy transition needs, with a stronger focus on:

• scaling finance to emerging markets and developing economies (EMDEs)
• strengthening NDC quality and investability
• reforming multilateral development banks (MDBs)
• mobilising catalytic capital for climate and nature
• recognising the centrality of the climate-nature nexus

Jan and Daniel reflect on why investors must remain at the table, how policy signals are evolving, and what COP30 revealed about both the opportunities and risks in a multi-speed global transition.

Detailed Coverage

From pledges to implementation

COP30 reinforced that international negotiations alone cannot deliver the speed or scale required. Brazil’s presidency emphasised an action agenda bridging policy and the real economy, pushing for greater alignment between investor needs and national transition pathways.

Investment flows and the net zero transition

Daniel highlights PRI's latest analysis presented in Sao Paolo on investment flows to the clean energy transition, yet stresses ongoing misalignment between where capital is flowing and where it is most needed, particularly in EMDEs.

📄 Related PRI report:

Investment flows to the net zero transition: Progress and policy needs (Oct 2025)

Mobilising capital for emerging markets

Jan details the growing engagement of finance ministries and MDBs in climate finance discussions. He notes progress on DFI/MDB reform, including more effective concessional capital, better use of equity, and improved currency-hedging mechanisms.

He also calls for clearer investor dialogue on perceived versus real risk in EMDEs, and the need for more peer learning on successful renewable-energy investment models.

📄 Related PRI report:

Who invests and how? Unlocking institutional capital for EMDE transitions (Nov 2025)

The role of national transition plans and NDCs

Daniel highlights improvements in the quality and granularity of NDCs, offering better signals for investors on sector pathways, enabling policies and investment opportunities. Yet, the gap between national ambition and global goals remains wide.

📄 Additional reference:

Investor Agenda – Global State of Investor Climate Action (Nov 2025)

Overshoot, tipping points and adaptation finance

The episode also explores the implications for institutional investors of breaching 1.5°C. Daniel emphasises the need for investors to strengthen physical-risk assessment, integrate non-linear climate impacts, and prepare for higher volatility.

He also notes the COP30 signal to triple adaptation finance, recognising the increasing urgency around physical climate risks and the opportunities in adaptation.

📄 Related PRI briefing:

1.5°C Overshoot Briefing (June 2025)

Chapters

(00:01) - Evolving Sustainable Investment Landscape

(09:55) - Unlocking Climate Investment in Global South

(20:21) - Global Transition and Investor Perspectives

(26:40) - Global Transition and Climate Investment Risks

(34:05) - Investor Responsibility in Climate Transition

Disclaimer

This podcast and material referenced herein is provided for information only. It is not intended to be investment, legal, tax or other advice, nor is it intended to be relied upon in making an investment or other decision. PRI Association is not responsible for any decision made or action taken based on information on this podcast. Listeners retain sole discretion over whether and how to use the information contained herein. PRI Association is not responsible for and does not endorse third parties featured on in this podcast or any third-party comments, content or other resources that may be included or referenced herein. Unless otherwise stated, podcast content does not necessarily represent the views of signatories to the Principles for Responsible Investment. All information is provided “as is” with no guarantee of completeness, accuracy or timeliness, or of the results obtained from the use of this information, and without warranty of any kind, expressed or implied. PRI Association is committed to compliance with all applicable laws. Copyright © PRI Association 2025. All rights reserved. This content may not be reproduced, or used for any other purpose, without the prior written consent of PRI Association.

In this episode, Nathan Fabian, Chief Sustainable Systems Officer at the PRI, examines what happens to the world’s ageing, high-emitting infrastructure—and why the way we decommission these assets is central to a just and orderly transition. He is joined by Julien Halfon, Head of Corporate and Pensions Solutions at BNP Paribas Asset Management, whose team estimates there are at least US$7.5 trillion in unfunded decommissioning costs embedded in today’s energy and industrial systems. Together, they explore how responsible investors can move from walking away from “brown” assets to actively stewarding them through end of life, clean-up and repurposing.

Overview

The conversation begins with Julien outlining the research behind the US $7.5–8 trillion decommissioning liability estimate, drawing on global studies from regulators, multilateral institutions and sectoral assessments. He explains how decommissioning liabilities emerged from the nuclear sector and is now a critical but underfunded obligation across oil and gas, mining, coal power and even renewables. Only a small fraction—mainly in nuclear—has been pre-funded, leaving governments, taxpayers and future generations exposed.

Nathan and Julien then unpack why responsible investors cannot simply divest from polluting assets and “leave the mess behind”. In a diversified portfolio, the costs of unmanaged decommissioning, stranded infrastructure and damaged communities reverberate across the wider economy. The discussion reframes decommissioning as part of long-term stewardship: engaging through the full lifecycle of assets, recognising decommissioning as a real liability, and using innovative instruments such as transition and decommissioning bonds to convert environmental debts into investable, long-term solutions.

Detailed Coverage

The decommissioning gap

Julien explains BNP Paribas Asset Management’s estimate of roughly US$8 trillion in decommissioning liabilities, of which around US$7.5 trillion remains unfunded once existing nuclear reserves are stripped out. Current corporate provisions fall far short of this figure, leaving a significant hidden risk.

Why end-of-life stewardship matters

Using examples such as abandoned copper mines, he illustrates how poorly managed closures can leave toxic legacies, stranded communities and fiscal burdens for governments—costs that ultimately flow back to diversified investors through sovereign and systemic risk.

From cost centre to opportunity

The episode highlights how active stewardship can unlock value from “end-of-life” assets, from re-mining tailings for valuable metals to repurposing industrial hubs, offshore platforms or nuclear sites into data centres, wind farms and other green infrastructure.

Financing the transition: decommissioning and transition bonds

Julien sets out how decommissioning and transition bonds can pre-fund clean-up and rehabilitation by transforming environmental liabilities into transparent financial ones, while freeing equity capital for redevelopment. Investor appetite has been strong, given the measurable nature of decommissioning activities and the clear brown-to-green trajectory.

Policy, pensions and local communities

Drawing on defined benefit pension frameworks, the discussion explores how tax-advantaged, ring-fenced decommissioning funds and supportive local development policies can help manage liabilities, protect communities and scale new markets for repurposed assets.

Find out more about the PRI’s work on climate and environmental issues at www.unpri.org/responsible-investment/sustainability-issues

Chapters

00:43 – Introduction: why decommissioning matters for responsible investors

01:59 – Julien Halfon on the US$7.5 trillion decommissioning gap

04:31 – Why investors can’t simply divest from “brown” assets

06:43 – Stewardship through end of life: staying engaged with legacy assets

07:51 – From liability to opportunity: repurposing mines, nuclear sites and hubs

11:23 – Transition and decommissioning bonds: funding clean-up and redevelopment

14:45 – Early issuances and investor appetite for decommissioning bonds

17:30 – Risks from short-termism, asset transfers and weak disclosure

23:14 – Real-world examples of repurposing and urban transformation

24:30 – The looming crunch: decommissioning fossil and ageing renewables together

28:40 – What policy and tax frameworks are needed to support decommissioning?

30:18 – Local communities, pension lessons and the North Sea opportunity

33:15 – Signposts for progress and scaling decommissioning markets

37:51 – The responsibility of investing: intergenerational stewardship and systems change

Disclaimer

This podcast and material referenced herein is provided for information only. It is not intended to be investment, legal, tax or other advice, nor is it intended to be relied upon in making an investment or other decision. PRI Association is not responsible for any decision made or action taken based on information on this podcast. Listeners retain sole discretion over whether and how to use the information contained herein. PRI Association is not responsible for and does not endorse third parties featured on in this podcast or any third-party comments, content or other resources that may be included or referenced herein. Unless otherwise stated, podcast content does not necessarily represent the views of signatories to the Principles for Responsible Investment. All information is provided “as is” with no guarantee of completeness, accuracy or timeliness, or of the results obtained from the use of this information, and without warranty of any kind, expressed or implied. PRI Association is committed to compliance with all applicable laws. Copyright © PRI Association 2025. All rights reserved. This content may not be reproduced, or used for any other purpose, without the prior written consent of PRI Association.

In this episode, Nathan Fabian, Chief Sustainable Systems Officer at the PRI, explores the deep interconnection between climate and nature and what it means for investors. Joining him are Laura Bosch, Senior Engagement Specialist at Robeco and member of the Advisory Committee for the PRI’s Spring Initiative, and Graham Stock, Managing Director at RBC BlueBay Asset Management and co-chair of the Investor Policy Dialogue on Deforestation (IPDD). Together, they unpack the financial and systemic risks of biodiversity loss, the emerging opportunities in sustainable investment, and the growing need for investors to act on the climate–nature nexus during COP30 and beyond.

Overview

The conversation begins by defining the climate-nature nexus as more than a conceptual link it’s an integrated system of feedback loops that shape economies, markets, and societies. Graham explains how deforestation and ecosystem degradation feed directly into sovereign credit risk, citing Brazil’s forests as a clear example of natural capital underpinning national economic stability. Laura expands on how biodiversity loss and climate change are mutually reinforcing crises that require investors to tackle transition and physical risks together.

Both guests highlight a shift in the industry: from separate approaches to climate and nature, to joint strategies that embed nature-based metrics within climate targets and net-zero roadmaps.

Detailed Coverage

• Risks and Opportunities: Investors must assess both the risks of ecosystem degradation and the opportunities from nature-positive transitions. Integrating climate and nature goals is becoming standard in frameworks such as the Net Zero Investment Framework and GFANZ guidance.
• Portfolio Application: Graham outlines how sovereign bond investors now evaluate nature-related risks such as water stress and deforestation alongside traditional macroeconomic indicators, using these insights to shape portfolio exposure and engagement priorities.
• Corporate Action: Laura details Robeco’s approach to assessing corporate transition readiness for both climate and biodiversity, combining financial materiality with forward-looking analytics. Their “traffic light” model identifies leaders and laggards, informing investment decisions and stewardship priorities.
• Balancing Trade-offs: The discussion explores how investors can navigate trade-offs between climate and nature goals - for instance, balancing the climate benefits of electric vehicle production with the biodiversity impacts of mining.
• Reversing Negative Impacts: Case studies highlight solutions such as regenerative agriculture, silvopasture, and precision farming to restore land and reduce emissions while sustaining productivity.
• Collaborative Engagement: Graham and Laura describe the impact of large-scale initiatives such as the IPDD, Nature Action 100, and the PRI’s Spring Initiative—each mobilizing investors to engage with governments and corporations on deforestation and biodiversity loss.
• COP30 and Beyond: Both guests underscore the importance of the upcoming COP30 in Brazil, where the Tropical Forest Financing Facility (TFFF) could redefine climate finance by channeling $125 billion to forest protection.

Find out more about the PRI at COP30 by visiting www.unpri.org/responsible-investment/road-to-cop30 

Chapters

00:00 – Introduction: The climate–nature nexus

02:32 – Graham Stock on integrating nature risk into sovereign credit

06:09 – Laura Bosch on connecting biodiversity and climate strategies

11:24 – How nature-based targets are reshaping portfolios

16:46 – Tools to assess transition readiness for climate and nature

21:23 – Reversing nature loss in agriculture and land use

24:09 – Investor engagement and the IPDD

29:52 – Collaborative initiatives: Nature Action 100 and PRI’s Spring

38:32 – Looking ahead to COP30 and the Tropical Forest Financing Facility

45:42 – The responsibility of investing: closing reflections

Disclaimer

This podcast and material referenced herein is provided for information only. It is not intended to be investment, legal, tax or other advice, nor is it intended to be relied upon in making an investment or other decision. PRI Association is not responsible for any decision made or action taken based on information on this podcast. Listeners retain sole discretion over whether and how to use the information contained herein. PRI Association is not responsible for and does not endorse third parties featured on in this podcast or any third-party comments, content or other resources that may be included or referenced herein. Unless otherwise stated, podcast content does not necessarily represent the views of signatories to the Principles for Responsible Investment. All information is provided “as is” with no guarantee of completeness, accuracy or timeliness, or of the results obtained from the use of this information, and without warranty of any kind, expressed or implied. PRI Association is committed to compliance with all applicable laws. Copyright © PRI Association 2025. All rights reserved. This content may not be reproduced, or used for any other purpose, without the prior written consent of PRI Association.

Extreme weather events are reshaping the investment landscape. How can investors protect portfolios—and communities—from the rising physical risks of climate change? In this episode, Kate Webber, Chief Solutions and Technology Officer at the PRI, speaks with Dr Calvin Lee Kwan of Link Asset Management and Simon Whistler, PRI’s Head of Real Assets, to explore how investors can turn climate resilience into both risk management and value creation.

Overview

Physical climate risk is no longer theoretical—it’s here. Floods, fires, and black-rain events are increasing in frequency and intensity, with real financial consequences. Simon Whistler outlines how investors are beginning to quantify and address these risks, yet highlights that fewer than one-third of PRI signatories currently report on physical climate risk metrics. Calvin Lee Kwan shares how Link Asset Management has moved from reactive recovery to proactive resilience—reducing insurance premiums by 11.7% and strengthening investor confidence in the process.

Detailed Coverage

• Physical climate risk today: More frequent and severe events—from typhoons in Hong Kong to floods in Europe—are causing major financial and operational losses.
• Investor action gap: Only 29% of investors report on physical climate risk, compared with 50% in the real-assets space, showing the need for broader engagement.
• Value protection and creation: Link’s sustainability strategy is built on two pillars—protecting existing value through resilience and creating new value through efficiency and stakeholder alignment.
• From risk to return: Engaging insurers with clear, data-driven resilience metrics translated into measurable financial results, proving sustainability can deliver bottom-line benefits.
• Community resilience: Floodwaters don’t stop at property boundaries. Link’s team now collaborates with neighbors, local authorities, and infrastructure managers to build district-level resilience—an approach that benefits whole communities.
• Industry-wide change: Collaboration between investors, insurers, and policymakers is key to building consistent models, pricing resilience into valuations, and driving systemic adaptation.
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• Communication as a catalyst: For Calvin Lee Kwan, sustainability comes down to translating resilience into stakeholder-specific value—from stable returns for investors to safety and reliability for tenants.

Chapters

• 00:43 – Welcome and introductions
• 02:08 – Why investors must act on physical climate risk
• 05:07 – How far investors have come—and how far to go
• 07:23 – The cost versus opportunity debate
• 08:43 – Link Asset Management’s practical approach
• 11:48 – A watershed moment: floods and recovery
• 13:34 – Turning resilience into measurable value
• 15:23 – Black-rain events and extreme weather
• 16:59 – Challenges for other investors
• 20:23 – Partnering with insurers to price resilience
• 25:00 – From property-level to community-level resilience
• 27:28 – How resilience links to property valuation
• 30:50 – Final reflections: communication, focus, and leadership
• 32:44 – What is the responsibility of investing

For more details, visit: https://www.unpri.org/climate-change-for-private-markets/assessing-physical-climate-risk-in-private-markets-a-technical-guide/13135.article

Keywords

responsible investment, physical climate risk, resilience investing, PRI podcast, Link Asset Management, insurance and sustainability, real assets, climate adaptation, community resilience, property valuation, ESG integration, value creation, decarbonisation, stakeholder alignment, risk management, sustainable finance, investor communication

Disclaimer

This podcast and material referenced herein is provided for information only. It is not intended to be investment, legal, tax or other advice, nor is it intended to be relied upon in making an investment or other decision. PRI Association is not responsible for any decision made or action taken based on information on this podcast. Listeners retain sole discretion over whether and how to use the information contained herein. PRI Association is not responsible for and does not endorse third parties featured on in this podcast or any third-party comments, content or other resources that may be included or referenced herein. Unless otherwise stated, podcast content does not necessarily represent the views of signatories to the Principles for Responsible Investment. All information is provided “as is” with no guarantee of completeness, accuracy or timeliness, or of the results obtained from the use of this information, and without warranty of any kind, expressed or implied. PRI Association is committed to compliance with all applicable laws. Copyright © PRI Association 2025. All rights reserved. This content may not be reproduced, or used for any other purpose, without the prior written consent of PRI Association.

Is the transition to a sustainable economy happening to us or because of us? Associate Professor Ioannis Ioannou (London Business School) joins host Kate Webber to unpack the recent ESG backlash and why today’s “disorderly transition” must become an orderly one. We explore how investors can push markets toward aligned capitalism - a system that lives within planetary and social boundaries - while unlocking “trapped competencies” and long-term value.

Overview

Ioannou argues we don’t choose whether to transition—the system is already shifting amid climate change, biodiversity loss, and widening social inequalities. The real choice is whether that transition is orderly (policy-led, long-term, and integrated) or disorderly (reactive, crisis-driven). He outlines how investors can re-center long-termism, integrate sustainability into core strategy (not a side product), and restore the original purpose of capital markets: scaling real-economy solutions.

Detailed coverage

• Orderly vs. disorderly transition: Planetary boundaries are breached; social stress is rising. An orderly path minimises harm and plans within ecological and social limits.
• Aligned capitalism: Capitalism is a human-made system that can be re-ruled to fit reality. Policy, incentives, and investment practices should align with science and society.
• From stranded assets to “trapped competencies”: Future-fit capabilities (circularity, regeneration, inclusion) remain undervalued until the system aligns—creating alpha for first movers.
• Investor playbook: Reframe metrics beyond short-term profits; deploy patient capital toward companies building system-shifting capabilities; advocate for rules that unlock these competencies.
• Integration, not silos: Sustainability must hold authority inside firms; RI can’t be a niche fund while the rest ignores impacts.
• Capital markets’ role: Finance the next industrial transformation (energy, transport, food). Prioritise scaling real solutions over purely financial engineering.
• Beyond shareholder primacy: Re-balance to a “team production” model that values natural and human capital alongside financial capital.
• Long-termism & multilateralism: Global problems need global collaboration; regionalism can’t substitute. Impacts are already “now,” not just long term.
• Why the ESG backlash can help: It forces clearer, evidence-based narrative infrastructure (not just technical standards) that connects with citizens and beneficiaries.
• Agency & communication: Engage end-investors better (including with AI-enabled tools); reflect their values in products; compound positive choices over time.
• Responsibility redefined: Don’t just align—restore and regenerate ecological and social capital.

Chapters

• 00:01 – Welcome & series context
• 00:52 – Guest intro and PRI’s Investment Case database
• 02:11 – Orderly vs. disorderly transition
• 05:38 – Defining “aligned capitalism”
• 07:37 – Future-fit capabilities & trapped competencies
• 10:51 – Investor incentives for alpha & impact
• 14:12 – Making RI core (authority, integration, structure)
• 18:17 – Capital markets’ original purpose
• 21:08 – Shareholder primacy & governance rethink
• 25:30 – Long-termism, regionalism, and global coordination
• 29:02 – Why the ESG backlash might be good
• 31:18 – From technical to narrative infrastructure
• 36:53 – Investor–beneficiary engagement (agency, tech, product design)
• 41:23 – The responsibility of investing: align, restore, regenerate

The PRI has published a database to support investors to make the case for responsible investment. Find out more on our website: https://www.unpri.org/investment-tools/investment-case-database 

Keywords

responsible investing, aligned capitalism, planetary boundaries, disorderly transition, long-termism, narrative infrastructure, trapped competencies, stranded assets, PRI Investment Case, ESG backlash, fiduciary duty, capital markets, circular economy, regeneration, system stewardship, stakeholder governance, beneficiary engagement

Disclaimer

This podcast and material referenced herein is provided for information only. It is not intended to be investment, legal, tax or other advice, nor is it intended to be relied upon in making an investment or other decision. PRI Association is not responsible for any decision made or action taken based on information on this podcast. Listeners retain sole discretion over whether and how to use the information contained herein. PRI Association is not responsible for and does not endorse third parties featured on in this podcast or any third party comments, content or other resources that may be included or referenced herein. Unless otherwise stated, podcast content does not necessarily represent the views of signatories to the Principles for Responsible Investment. All information is provided “as-is” with no guarantee of completeness, accuracy or timeliness, or of the results obtained from the use of this information, and without warranty of any kind, expressed or implied. PRI Association is committed to compliance with all applicable laws.  Copyright © PRI Association 2025. All rights reserved. This content may not be reproduced, or used for any other purpose, without the prior written consent of PRI Association.

A decade on from the Paris Agreement, COP30 in Brazil is shaping up to be the implementation COP. For investors, this means not only understanding the risks of inaction but also seizing the opportunities that climate and nature-based solutions present. In this episode, Tamsin Ballard, Chief Initiatives Officer at the PRI, speaks with Wendy Walford, Head of Climate and Nature Risk at Legal & General and Policy Track co-lead for the Net Zero Asset Owner Alliance, about why institutional investors are engaging in the UN climate negotiations and what they hope to achieve

Wendy Walford explains how Legal & General integrates climate and nature considerations into decision-making and why COP30 represents a pivotal moment. She highlights the role of private finance in achieving the Baku to Belém Roadmap commitment of mobilising $1.3 trillion for emerging and developing economies. The conversation explores why investors must be at the table, how alliances can amplify their voice, and why policy stability is the linchpin to unlock large-scale capital flows.

Detailed coverage

• Why COP30 matters to investors: Climate is a systemic risk that directly affects portfolios. Investors need to understand policy outcomes to align long-term allocations.
• The $1.3 trillion roadmap: COP29 in Baku highlighted the necessity of private finance in scaling investment into emerging markets. COP30 will test how barriers to this ambition can be addressed.
• Opportunities and risks: Mobilising finance offers huge upside in renewable energy, adaptation, and nature-based solutions, but investors also face volatility: FX risk, and limited data.
• Investor expectations for COP30: Calls for stable, long-term policy environments, signals to boost confidence, and frameworks to unlock investable opportunities in climate and nature.
• Nature-based solutions: From sovereign debt-for-nature swaps to carbon markets, innovative instruments are emerging but require multistakeholder cooperation and supportive regulation.
• Amplifying investor voices: Alliances like the Net Zero Asset Owner Alliance provide a collective voice that ensures investor needs are heard in negotiations.
• The responsibility of investing: Long-termism is essential — balancing short-term returns with the duty to build resilient, sustainable portfolios for future beneficiaries.

Chapters

• 00:43 – Why COP30 matters to investors
• 02:19 – Legal & General’s role and the Net Zero Asset Owner Alliance
• 05:23 – Why engage with UN climate negotiations?
• 06:04 – The Baku to Belém Roadmap and $1.3 trillion finance goal
• 08:44 – Barriers and risks in emerging markets
• 11:06 – Opportunities vs. resilience in climate investing
• 14:37 – Key asks for COP30 outcomes
• 15:57 – Nature-based solutions and innovative financing
• 18:18 – Investor expectations for government action
• 20:10 – Practical advice for engaging with the COP process
• 23:49 – What is the responsibility of investing?

Read more about the PRI’s Road to COP30 programme and buy your tickets to PRI in Person at https://www.unpri.org/sustainability-issues/climate-change/the-road-to-cop30

Find out more about the NZAOA at https://www.unepfi.org/net-zero-alliance/

Keywords

responsible investment, COP30 Brazil, PRI podcast, Legal & General, Net Zero Asset Owner Alliance, climate finance, systemic risk, Paris Agreement, Baku to Belém Roadmap, emerging markets investment, sustainable investing, adaptation finance, nature-based solutions, sovereign debt-for-nature swaps, carbon markets, fiduciary duty, investor policy engagement, long-term portfolio resilience, ESG integration

Risk Disclaimer

Your capital is at risk. The value of investments can fall as well as rise, and you may get back less than you invested. Past performance is not an indicator of future results.

Disclaimer

This podcast is provided for educational and informational purposes only. It is not investment advice, financial planning guidance, or a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold securities. All discussions are for educational purposes only.

As geopolitical tensions rise, responsible investors are asking tough questions: Is there a case for responsible investment in defence? In this episode, Nathan Fabian, Chief Sustainable Systems Officer at PRI, is joined by Mark Wade (Allianz Global Investors), Estelle Parker (Responsible Investment Association Australasia), and Torben Möger Pedersen (Danish Foreign Policy Society; former CEO, PensionDanmark) to explore whether defence can be considered part of responsible investment, and if so, under what conditions. 

Overview

The discussion examines the complexities of defence in the environmental, social and governance context. With NATO members increasing their budgetary commitments and European states boosting spending, defence is becoming a more prevalent part of the investment landscape. Yet reputational, human rights, and environmental risks remain at the forefront of investor concerns. The panel unpacks exclusion versus inclusion approaches, the rise of dual-use technologies, transparency challenges, and the role of stewardship in shaping defence practices.

Detailed Coverage

• The case for defence investment: Torben argues that democracy and national security are foundational, making military capacity essential to safeguarding rights and advancing long-term societal goals.
• Human rights and environmental risks: Estelle highlights investor obligations for heightened due diligence, noting reputational, environmental, corruption, and legal risks tied to weapons.
• Evolving client expectations: Mark outlines shifting European regulation and investor sentiment, with non-labelled funds more open to limited defence exposure under strict conditions.
• Dual-use technologies: The blurred line between civilian and military innovation (cyber, AI, drones, green energy) challenges investors to navigate benefits and risks.
• Transparency and disclosure: All panelists agree that investors need clearer reporting from defence companies — not on classified technology, but on customers, contracts, and safeguards.
• Stewardship opportunity: Rather than blanket exclusion, investors could push for higher standards by engaging directly with defence companies and shaping industry norms.

Chapters

• 00:44 – Why defence is back on the agenda
• 02:09 – Democracy, defence, adding the “D” into ESG?
• 05:26 – Human rights, reputational, and environmental risks
• 08:53 – Ukraine, NATO, and the defence boom
• 11:47 – Client expectations and regulatory shifts
• 16:08 – Responsible investing frameworks: defence as social necessity?
• 18:24 – Due diligence, customers, and sanctions
• 23:31 – Stewardship, standards, and defence bonds
• 28:33 – Dual-use technologies and transparency
• 37:36 – Human rights due diligence in practice
• 40:04 – Policy, regulation, and long-term certainty
• 45:00 – Final reflections on the future of defenCe investing
• 47:16 – The responsibility of investors in today’s world

Keywords

responsible investment, defence sector ESG, PRI podcast, democracy and defence, sustainable investing, fiduciary duty, NATO defence spending, human rights due diligence, reputational risk, dual-use technologies, defense bonds, military ESG risks, transparency in defence, systemic stewardship, long-term investment strategies, ethical investing, exclusion vs inclusion, autonomous weapons, investor stewardship, sustainable finance regulation

Risk Disclaimer

Your capital is at risk. The value of investments can fall as well as rise, and you may get back less than you invested. Past performance is not an indicator of future results.

Disclaimer

This podcast is provided for educational and informational purposes only. It is not investment advice, financial planning guidance, or a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold securities. All discussions are for educational purposes only.

With just weeks to go until COP30 in Belém, Brazil, the world’s attention is turning to how global climate commitments can move from promise to practice. Investors are central to this shift — from financing the transition to engaging with policymakers - all of which we’ll be discussing at PRI in Person in São Paulo, just days before COP30 kicks off. In this episode, Tamsin Ballard, Chief Investor Initiatives Officer at the PRI, speaks to Ana Toni, CEO of COP30, about the critical role of the investment community in shaping outcomes at this year’s UN Climate Conference.

Overview

COP30 marks a pivotal moment: the first time all elements of the Paris Agreement’s “full cycle” come into play. Countries must submit their decarbonisation and adaptation plans through to 2035, setting the framework that will guide both public and private capital flows. Against the backdrop of worsening climate impacts — and all this as the Amazon rainforest hosts — the stakes for implementation have never been higher.

Ana Toni outlines her three cross-cutting priorities for COP30:

1. Protecting the multilateral system to ensure global cooperation.
2. Connecting global negotiations to everyday realities of consumption, financing, and business.
3. Accelerating implementation — shifting from frameworks to real-world action.

Detailed Coverage

• Why COPs matter: From the Paris Agreement to carbon market reforms, COP outcomes shape financial systems, consumer choices, and long-term investor strategies.
• Decade after Paris: Governments now must present their 2035 climate plans, providing clarity and certainty for private sector investment.
• The finance dimension: COP30 will build on COP29’s focus on climate finance, aiming to mobilise far greater flows of capital — especially to developing countries.
• Risks and opportunities for investors: Climate change presents both physical and financial risks, but also growth opportunities in renewable energy, agriculture, sustainable infrastructure, and emerging markets.
• Investor engagement: COP30 is positioned as a platform for matchmaking — connecting regulators, private sector innovators, and financiers to accelerate solutions in areas like SAF, green hydrogen, and agriculture.
• From promise to practice: Both PRI in Person (São Paulo) and COP30 (Belém) are highlighted as forums where investors can move beyond commitments into specific, scalable solutions.

Chapters

• 00:43 – Setting the stage: COP30 and investor relevance
• 02:31 – Role of the COP30 CEO and the negotiation process
• 04:09 – Why COP decisions affect finance and daily life
• 06:37 – Priorities and hopes for COP30
• 10:17 – 2035 plans and Paris Agreement “full cycle”
• 12:51 – Risks and opportunities for investors
• 16:54 – Practical ways investors can engage with COP30
• 19:14 – PRI in Person as a platform for dialogue
• 22:27 – The responsibility of investing: acting now for the long term

For more information on PRI in person, or its plans for COP30, please visit the following links:

PRI in Person 2025 - 4-6 November

The Road to COP30

Keywords

COP30, UN Climate Conference Brazil, PRI podcast, responsible investment, climate finance, Paris Agreement, 2035 climate plans, sustainable investing, implementation, investors and COP, green hydrogen, SAF, just transition, climate risk management, emerging markets, biodiversity finance, systemic risk, long-term investment strategies, sustainable agriculture, energy transition

In this episode, Kate Webber, Chief Solutions Officer at the PRI, is joined by Claudia Wearmouth, Global Head of Responsible Investment at Columbia Threadneedle Investments, and Travis Antoniono, Investment Director for Sustainable Investments at CalPERS.

Together, they explore how responsible investment is being applied in practical, financially material ways, including how it is embedded into investment processes, how transparent dialogue between asset owners and managers supports long-term outcomes, and the role evidence plays in sustainable investment decision-making.

Overview:

Responsible investment is increasingly moving from a specialist function to a core part of investment decision-making. Across public and private markets, sustainability and governance considerations are being integrated into due diligence, portfolio construction, stewardship and long-term risk management.

This episode explores how investors are building practical frameworks around financial materiality, balancing quantitative tools with qualitative judgement, and adapting to rapidly evolving risks such as climate change and AI disruption.

Detailed coverage:

Embedding sustainability into investment processes
Both guests explain how sustainability considerations are now integrated throughout the investment lifecycle, from initial due diligence through to ongoing monitoring and exit decisions.

Financial materiality and fiduciary duty

They explore how responsible investment supports long‑term, risk‑adjusted returns and helps meet fiduciary responsibilities to beneficiaries.

The role of dedicated expertise
Travis Antoniono discusses embedding dedicated sustainability specialists directly into investment due diligence teams, while Claudia Wearmouth outlines how sustainable investment analysts can better work alongside fundamental research teams.

Data, evidence and judgement
The conversation explores how responsible investment relies on a growing evidence base. While data is still evolving, investors increasingly combine quantitative tools with qualitative insight and real-world case studies.

Explore real-world examples of how investors are combining data and judgement in practice in the PRI’s investment case database: https://public.unpri.org/investment-tools/investment-case-database

How AI is changing investment research
AI is beginning to transform investment analysis itself, helping teams assess sector disruption, and emerging financial impacts more dynamically.

Building organisational buy-in
Both guests highlight that embedding responsible investment depends on strong leadership and clear direction, with teams working together to apply it in practice.

The importance of asset owner–manager relationships
Transparency, trust and detailed communication are highlighted as essential for aligning investment objectives, stewardship expectations and long-term strategy execution.

Practical lessons for investors
The episode concludes with practical recommendations on how investors can improve governance and decision-making through more consistent use of evidence and ongoing dialogue.

Chapters:

00:08 - Introduction and the investment case for responsible investment
01:29 - Embedding sustainability into investment processes
05:14 - Sustainability, fiduciary duty and long-term returns
10:56 - Building the evidence base for responsible investment
13:39 - How AI is changing investment analysis
20:15 - Creating organisational buy-in and investment alignment
22:18 - Climate solutions, strategy and total portfolio thinking
27:12 - Asset owner and investment manager collaboration
35:15 - Key lessons on transparency, trust and detail
37:04 - Practical recommendations for investors

Disclaimer:

This podcast and material referenced herein is provided for information only. It is not intended to be investment, legal, tax or other advice, nor is it intended to be relied upon in making an investment or other decision. PRI Association is not responsible for any decision made or action taken based on information on this podcast. Listeners retain sole discretion over whether and how to use the information contained herein. PRI Association is not responsible for and does not endorse third parties featured on in this podcast or any third-party comments, content or other resources that may be included or referenced herein. Unless otherwise stated, podcast content does not necessarily represent the views of signatories to the Principles for Responsible Investment. All information is provided “as is” with no guarantee of completeness, accuracy or timeliness, or of the results obtained from the use of this information, and without warranty of any kind, expressed or implied. PRI Association is committed to compliance with all applicable laws. Copyright © PRI Association 2026. All rights reserved. This content may not be reproduced, or used for any other purpose, without the prior written consent of PRI Association.

Intro / Hook

The PRI Awards showcase the very best in responsible investment — but they also reveal much more. In this episode Paul Van Eynde, Chief Marketing & Strategy Officer at the PRI chats to award judge Claire Hierons of the Laudes Foundation and Dan Neale from the Church Commissioners for England, shortlisted for recognition. The conversation highlights how investors are embracing stewardship, system-level thinking, and accountability to drive real-world impact.

Overview

The PRI Awards are designed to spotlight leadership and innovation among PRI signatories, spanning asset owners, investment managers, and service providers. With over 139 submissions this year across categories including climate, nature, human rights, stewardship, and communications, the awards reflect the diversity and maturity of responsible investment worldwide.

Claire Hierons shares insights from her experience as a judge, noting the evolution of systemic stewardship and the growing sophistication of entries. Dan Neale discusses the Church Commissioners’ submission on the Investor Initiative for Human Rights Data (IIHRD) and why human rights must be central to addressing systemic risks such as climate change and inequality.

Detailed Coverage

• The role of the PRI Awards: Encouraging leadership, transparency, and innovation across the investment chain.
• Global coverage: Submissions from emerging and developed markets, showing that sustainability leadership is not limited by geography.
• Church Commissioners’ human rights initiative: Collaboration with global investors to strengthen human rights data, integrate it into stewardship, and ensure accountability across public markets.
• Systemic responsibility: Both guests stress the need for investors to see fiduciary duty not only as delivering returns but also as protecting the systems that underpin future value.

Chapters

• 00:44 – Introduction to the PRI Awards and categories
• 05:45 – Reflections on judging the awards
• 08:00 – Trends in responsible investment submissions
• 10:47 – The rise of global leadership in sustainability
• 11:42 – The Church Commissioners and their stewardship approach
• 14:05 – The Investor Initiative for Human Rights Data (IIHRD)
• 16:18 – Human rights as a systemic risk
• 17:12 – Embedding human rights into policy and stewardship practices
• 19:16 – Addressing data gaps and disclosure challenges
• 24:19 – What does “The Responsibility of Investing” mean today?

Keywords

responsible investment, PRI Awards, Laudes Foundation, Church Commissioners, stewardship, systemic risk, fiduciary duty, sustainability in finance, climate change, biodiversity, human rights in investing, ESG data, IIHRD, universal asset owners, just transition, investor innovation, responsible business practices, transparency in investing, New York Climate Week

How does a leading investment fund fully integrate stewardship and sustainability into its strategy?

In this episode of The Responsibility of Investing, Cambria Allen-Ratzlaff, Chief Responsible Investment Ecosystems Officer at the PRI, is joined by Jonathan Grabel, Chief Investment Officer for the Los Angeles County Employees Retirement Association (LACERA). They discuss how LACERA incorporates responsible investment principles across all asset classes, driven by a strong fiduciary duty to its beneficiaries.

Jonathan shares insights into LACERA’s governance structure, investment beliefs, and the operational integration of stewardship and the TIDE (Towards Inclusion, Diversity & Equity) programme. The conversation explores the role of data, proxy voting, and climate scenario analysis in managing risk and generating durable, risk-adjusted returns. Listeners will gain a clear understanding of how sustainability is embedded at every level of LACERA’s investment process to protect and grow assets for current and future retirees.

Visit the PRI website: https://www.unpri.org/

Can sustainability truly redefine the landscape of private markets and drive unprecedented financial value?

In this episode of The Responsibility of Investing, Kate Webber, Chief Solutions & Technology Officer at the PRI is joined by Aditya Vikram, Head of Private Equity at the PRI to explore a topic that’s transforming private markets: sustainability as a driver of financial value. 

Discover how sustainability has shifted from a mere buzzword to an essential element of business resilience and capital formation. With insights drawn from over 400 global investors, Aditya demonstrates how sustainability's role as a key driver for financial value transcends geographical boundaries. Learn how tools like AI and data analytics are revolutionising the identification of sustainability risks and opportunities, making them a cornerstone of modern investment strategies. 

Hear insights into the PRI's ‘sustainability value creation framework’, developed with Bain & Company and NYU Stern Centre for Sustainable Business and involving over 400 investors through a world-wide survey, one-to-one interviews, and regional workshops across Africa, Asia, Europe, and Latin and North America.

Chapters:

02:15 - The evolution of sustainability in private markets

06:08 - Shifting perspectives on sustainability and value creation

13:11 - The journey of sustainability value creation

18:31 - Integrating sustainability into investment practices

21:02 - Value creation framework in sustainability investing

How is AI revolutionising the way we approach responsible investing? In this episode, Paul Van Eynde, Chief Marketing & Strategy Officer at the PRI is joined by Lorenzo Saa, Chief Sustainability Officer at Clarity AI, to explore how technological innovation is reshaping the investment landscape.

Lorenzo shares his journey from microfinance to becoming a front-runner in sustainable investments, offering insights into the transition from traditional analyst-driven models to pioneering data and technology-driven solutions at Clarity AI. Hear how AI can be used as a collaborative tool to enhance understanding of sustainability issues and opening new avenues for improved investment outcomes, particularly in emerging markets, leveraging alternative data sets and using AI for environmental monitoring.

Focusing on the interplay between human and artificial intelligence in the investment realm, Lorenzo explains that AI tools not only enhance productivity but also offer deeper insights, likening AI’s capabilities to those of a cheetah for speed and an owl for wisdom. As we routinely  increase the adoption of these technologies, Lorenzo advocates for a proactive approach to integrating AI into responsible investing, while ensuring transparency and aligning with client expectations.

With more than 5,000 PRI signatories navigating different mandates, asset mixes, and sustainability priorities, a one-size-fits-all approach to responsible investment no longer works.

In this episode, our host and Chief Marketing & Strategy Officer Paul Van Eynde speaks to our Chief Sustainable Systems Officer, Nathan Fabian, to unpack the thinking behind the PRI’s Pathways framework, designed to reflect the real-world complexity of responsible investment and support signatories in ways that make sense for them.

Later, our Chief Solutions and Technology Officer, Kate Webber, explains how her team is bringing that framework to life, turning it into a product signatories can use and interact with through MyPRI, our new digital portal launching in November.

For more on Pathways and MyPRI, visit: https://pathways.unpri.org

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In the inaugural episode of the relaunched The Responsibility of Investing podcast Paul Van Eynde, Chief Marketing & Strategy Officer at the PRI chats with José Pugas, Partner & Chief Sustainability Officer at Regia Capital about the upcoming COP30  in Belem, Brazil in November 2025 to explore the critical intersection of finance and environmental responsibility . 

José shares the pivotal role of nature in investment strategies and offers invaluable insights into Regia Capital’s establishment as a joint venture between Brazilian giants JGP Asset Management and Banco do Brasil Asset Management, highlighting their pioneering role in green finance within Brazil's ecological transition framework.

With a focus on Brazil, explore the challenges and opportunities associated with nature-based solutions. José highlights the importance of collaborating with experts outside the financial sector and emphasizes the potential for global investors to support emerging markets in their transition to low-carbon economies. This underscores the need to move beyond traditional approaches and embrace a broader understanding of investment opportunities linked to nature and sustainability.

Join us in São Paulo from November 4–6, 2025, for PRI in Person, our annual flagship global conference on responsible investment, strategically timed just before the COP30 in Belem. As a gathering of over 1,000 institutional investors, policymakers, corporates, and sustainable finance leaders, this event is a powerhouse of collaboration and innovation on critical responsible investment issues.

Taking place in Brazil, the heart of immense biodiversity and green finance opportunities, PRI in Person will drive impactful connections to mobilise capital for emerging markets and tackle urgent climate and nature challenges. With COP30 as a pivotal moment for nations to enhance their climate commitments, the conference ensures strategic alignment for ambitious investments that align with a net-zero, sustainable future. 

Disclaimer

This podcast and material referenced herein is provided for information only. It is not intended to be investment, legal, tax or other advice, nor is it intended to be relied upon in making an investment or other decision. PRI Association is not responsible for any decision made or action taken based on information on this podcast. Listeners retain sole discretion over whether and how to use the information contained herein. PRI Association is not responsible for and does not endorse third parties featured on in this podcast or any third party comments, content or other resources that may be included or referenced herein. Unless otherwise stated, podcast content does not necessarily represent the views of signatories to the Principles for Responsible Investment. All information is provided “as-is” with no guarantee of completeness, accuracy or timeliness, or of the results obtained from the use of this information, and without warranty of any kind, expressed or implied. PRI Association is committed to compliance with all applicable laws. Copyright © PRI Association 2025. All rights reserved. This content may not be reproduced, or used for any other purpose, without the prior written consent of PRI Association.

The Responsibility of Investing (formerly The Principles for Responsible Investment) is a podcast by the Principles for Responsible Investment (PRI), the world’s largest global body on responsible investment, representing over $128 trillion in assets under management. Each episode features conversations with thought leaders and experts from around the world, exploring how sustainable factors are transforming the investment landscape. Listen for unique insight into how climate, nature and human rights issues are affecting asset classes and responsible investment policies.  

The series helps PRI signatories - and the wider investment community - navigate responsible investment with greater precision and confidence, for the benefit of both investors and society. No matter your size, market, nor stage of the responsible investment journey, The Responsibility of Investing will bring you a new perspective every fortnight.

Join us in São Paulo for the world’s leading responsible investment event, as we return for PRI in Person 2025, book now to secure your early bird rate - available until 2 July.

Disclaimer

This podcast and material referenced herein is provided for information only. It is not intended to be investment, legal, tax or other advice, nor is it intended to be relied upon in making an investment or other decision. PRI Association is not responsible for any decision made or action taken based on information on this podcast. Listeners retain sole discretion over whether and how to use the information contained herein. PRI Association is not responsible for and does not endorse third parties featured on in this podcast or any third party comments, content or other resources that may be included or referenced herein. Unless otherwise stated, podcast content does not necessarily represent the views of signatories to the Principles for Responsible Investment. All information is provided “as-is” with no guarantee of completeness, accuracy or timeliness, or of the results obtained from the use of this information, and without warranty of any kind, expressed or implied. PRI Association is committed to compliance with all applicable laws. Copyright © PRI Association 2025. All rights reserved. This content may not be reproduced, or used for any other purpose, without the prior written consent of PRI Association.

In this episode of the PRI podcast, we discuss implementing net zero commitments in listed equity portfolios.

Joined by Anna Cala, Assistant Vice President, ESG, ClearBridge Investments, and Maia Becker, Senior Director, RBC Global Asset Management, we explore:

2. Net zero ambition & commitments
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5. Challenges and issues on the path to net zero
6. 
   
8. Steps taken towards achieving these targets
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11. The role of divestments in achieving net zero targets

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In this week's podcast, we look at the social licence of infrastructure investing. Joined by Gwen Colin of Vauban Infrastructure and Antoine Tréboz of ALiS, we explore:

·       How the social licence delivers better infrastructure projects for investors and their stakeholders

·       How to conduct effective stakeholder engagement

Find the transcript here: https://bit.ly/3FQ5sAn

 In this episode, Sebastien Akbik, Corporate Governance Analyst at the PRI spoke with Kiran Aziz, Head of Responsible Investments from KLP and Daniel Mulé, Policy Lead, Extractive Industries Tax and Transparency from Oxfam America. 

They discussed the importance for responsible investors to consider tax both from a risk mitigation and positive impact perspective. The speakers also discussed the increasing momentum on tax, including the shareholder proposals on tax transparency filed by Oxfam America and KLP.  

Find transcript here: https://bit.ly/3YMKuJ8  

In this episode, Cambria Allen-Ratzlaff, Interim CEO of the PRI, is joined by Michael Benedict Yamoah (Vice President, Stewardship Director, EOS at Federated Hermes), Chris Jurgens (Senior Director, Omidyar Network), and Oumou Ly (Non-resident Research Fellow, UC Berkeley Center for Long-Term Cybersecurity) to explore how investors should respond to AI.

Building on Part 1, this episode moves from theory to practice, outlining how investors can assess AI governance, identify risks across portfolios, and begin engaging with companies in a fast-moving and uncertain landscape.

Overview:

AI is already reshaping portfolios, but most investors are still early in understanding how to manage the risks. This episode focuses on practical steps, from governance and engagement to tools, research, frameworks and real-world examples of leading practice.

A key message is that there is no perfect framework yet. Instead, investors must start now, build capability over time, and engage continuously as the technology evolves.

Detailed coverage:

What good AI governance looks like
At a minimum, companies must comply with regulation and establish clear internal policies. Strong governance goes further, embedding AI into enterprise risk management, assigning board-level responsibility, and ensuring oversight across the organisation.

Beyond compliance: lifecycle thinking
Investors are encouraged to assess the full lifecycle of AI systems, from development and deployment to real-world impacts, liabilities and societal consequences.

AI risk is dynamic
Unlike other technologies, AI systems evolve post-deployment. This requires continuous monitoring, disclosure and adaptation, rather than one-off assessments.

Examples of leading practice
Companies such as Anthropic and Microsoft are highlighted for transparency, investor engagement and responsible AI frameworks. Across the ecosystem, progress is being driven by collaboration between companies, investors and policymakers.

The importance of infrastructure and ecosystems
AI is not just about software, it spans chips, data centres and energy systems. Managing its risks requires coordination across the full value chain.

Practical starting points for investors
Investors should map where AI sits in their portfolios, identify key use cases, and assess associated risks such as cybersecurity, compliance and liability.

Tools, frameworks and collaboration
A growing ecosystem of resources, from investor coalitions to research frameworks, is emerging to support engagement and analysis.

A marathon, not a sprint
AI governance is an ongoing process. Investors must build long-term capability, stay engaged in dialogue, and avoid waiting for perfect solutions before acting.

Start now, signal intent
Even simple engagement, asking basic governance questions, can send a strong signal to companies that responsible AI matters.

Chapters:

00:08 - Introduction: from AI risk to investor action
01:00 - What good AI governance looks like
03:05 - Internal policies, risk management and board oversight
05:00 - Lifecycle thinking and real-world impacts
08:17 - Examples of leading practice in AI governance
10:30 - Defining and understanding AI risk
13:15 - Mapping AI use cases across portfolios
15:39 - Practical tools and investor resources
19:44 - Why AI is a marathon, not a sprint
22:24 - Final takeaways: start now and engage

Further reading: Anthropic labor market impacts, Microsoft transparency report

Disclaimer:

This podcast and material referenced herein is provided for information only. It is not intended to be investment, legal, tax or other advice, nor is it intended to be relied upon in making an investment or other decision. PRI Association is not responsible for any decision made or action taken based on information on this podcast. Listeners retain sole discretion over whether and how to use the information contained herein. PRI Association is not responsible for and does not endorse third parties featured on in this podcast or any third-party comments, content or other resources that may be included or referenced herein. Unless otherwise stated, podcast content does not necessarily represent the views of signatories to the Principles for Responsible Investment. All information is provided “as is” with no guarantee of completeness, accuracy or timeliness, or of the results obtained from the use of this information, and without warranty of any kind, expressed or implied. PRI Association is committed to compliance with all applicable laws. Copyright © PRI Association 2026. All rights reserved. This content may not be reproduced, or used for any other purpose, without the prior written consent of PRI Association.

Many governments are turning to labelled sustainable bonds, and Latin American sovereigns have been particularly innovative.

The PRI’s latest podcast delves into the issuer and investor perspective, and the different types of bonds coming to the market.

In this podcast we discuss:

• The state and evolution of the sovereign sustainable bond market
• How Latin America have approached this market and how Columbia, Mexico, and Chile have been the leaders in this space.
• Weighing up use-of-proceeds labelled bonds versus sustainability-linked bonds

It features Esther Law, who is a Senior Investment Manager in Emerging Market Debt at Amundi and César Arias, the former Director of Public Credit and National Treasury at the Ministry of Finance of Colombia.

Find podcast transcript here : https://bit.ly/3Xx5XGm 

In this episode, the PRI’s head of fixed income, Carmen Nuzzo speaks with Adam Heltzer of Ares Management and Faith Rosenfeld of HPS Investment Partners, to discuss how private debt investors are incorporating ESG into their investment practices.   

With this, they discuss the ESG opportunities for private debt and private equity investors to collaborate and the regulatory implications on reporting with limited partners. 

In this special episode of the PRI podcast, we shine the spotlight on COP27.

Host Liz Barnes speaks with Habib Abdur-Rahman, Head of ESG at Investcorp, and Prudential's Liza Jansen, Head of Responsible Investment at Prudential, and member of the UN-Convened Net-Zero Asset Owner Alliance.

With just a week to go until the highly anticipated climate conference, they discuss their expectations for COP27, the role of investors in scaling up actions to deliver on a just transition to net zero, and how blended finance can be leveraged to mobilise capital into where finance is needed the most.

In this new podcast, an investor and a bank discuss which ESG data they use for securitised product analysis and how it differs from other asset classes.

In the tenth podcast of a series on the ESG in Credit Risk and Ratings Initiative, Sixtine Dubost (PRI) speaks with Erika Wranegard (Lombard Odier Investment Managers) and Michael Ferguson (S&P Global Ratings) about the ESG information provider landscape and the usefulness of the product and service offering for fixed income investors.

Find the podcast transcript here: https://bit.ly/3f3e24d

In this episode of the PRI podcast, Jasper Cox, Investment Practices Analyst at the PRI, speaks with Christian Leveque, Municipal Portfolio Manager and Strategist at Payden & Rygel, and Ruth Ducret, Senior Analyst, Municipal Research at Breckinridge Capital Advisors

State and local governments in the US have a critical role to play in tackling environmental and social challenges.

In turn, the investors who lend to these administrations through buying municipal (muni) bonds can contribute to the solutions. Some muni bond issuers have also started selling labelled bonds that earmark proceeds for green or social projects.

This podcast explores how sustainability outcomes can be factored into muni bond investment decisions, and what the role of labelled bonds is in this market.

Find the podcast transcript here: https://bit.ly/3AC6zBh

Join the PRI’s Bonnie Groves and guests John Hoeppner, LGIM America, and Aeisha Mastagni, CalSTRS, in this episode of the PRI podcast.  

John and Aeisha discuss this year’s AGM season and the trends that will shape future proxy seasons. They tackle voting on new and complex shareholder resolutions and the role of universal owners in addressing systemic risks.  Find the podcast transcript here: https://bit.ly/3JpLi0G

In this new podcast, PRI’s Carmen Nuzzo speaks with an originator and an investor  to discuss the benefits and the challenges of structured products with green or social labels. They are growing rapidly but are not always genuine.

In this episode Laura de Ornelas, PRI’s Empowering Asset Owners Director, speaks to Jenny Kvaskova and Tim Manuel from Aon. They explore the insights into Asset Owners’ responsible investment practices, particularly how they differ across geographies and Asset Owner segments.

Jenny shares the methodology and techniques used to bring the PRI’s reporting data to life. Tim Manuel shares from his experience in supporting Asset Owners in their responsible investment journey, explores the challenges they face, and gives insight into how the industry is solving these.

Find the podcast transcript here: https://bit.ly/3utVKOc

In this episode of the PRI podcast, Jasper Cox, Investment Practices Analyst at the PRI, speaks with Lupin Rahman, Head of Emerging Markets Sovereign Credit at PIMCO, and Jarrad Linzie, Global Head of Fixed Income Index Research at MSCI.

Indices help shape investment decisions, whether investors track them passively or use them as a benchmark for performance. Therefore, the index providers incorporating environmental, social and governance (ESG) factors into a growing number of their products are key actors in the responsible investment ecosystem.

When designing ESG indices for government bonds, there are certain differences compared with corporate indices. This podcast explores these distinctions, as well as the purpose of ESG sovereign debt indices and potential areas for future development.

Find the podcast transcript here: https://bit.ly/3bAXNcG

Interested in the resources discussed in this episode?

Bringing together sovereign debt investors and index providers: https://www.unpri.org/sovereign-debt/bringing-together-sovereign-debt-investors-and-index-providers/9890.article

In this episode, Cambria Allen-Ratzlaff, Interim CEO of the PRI, brings together Michael Benedict Yamoah, Vice President, Stewardship Director, EOS at Federated Hermes, Chris Jurgens, Senior Director, Omidyar Network, and Oumou Ly, Non-resident Research Fellow, UC Berkeley Centre for Long-Term Cybersecurity to explore why AI is emerging as a critical sustainability issue for investors.

The first in a two-part series, this episode examines the scale and speed of AI adoption, its implications for climate, labour, security and long-term financial stability, and what it will take for investors to get ahead of a transition that is already underway.

Overview

AI is rapidly reshaping the global economy, with unprecedented levels of capital investment, adoption and market impact. While much of the focus has been on AI as an investment opportunity, this episode reframes it as a system-wide issue with implications for climate, labour, security and long-term financial stability.

The discussion highlights a growing gap between investor awareness and capability, as well as the need for stronger coordination, clearer frameworks and more robust governance to manage AI-related risks.

Detailed coverage

AI as a system-wide investment issue
AI is not confined to the tech sector, it is a whole-economy force that will impact portfolios across industries, making it relevant for all long-term investors.

The business case for responsible AI
Responsible AI practices are increasingly linked to performance, helping companies build trust, avoid costly failures and strengthen long-term returns.

Systemic risks: energy, labour and infrastructure
AI is driving rapid growth in data centres and physical infrastructure, with significant implications for energy demand, emissions, water use and local communities.

Security and regulatory risk
AI is accelerating cyber threats while also becoming a focus for regulators globally. This creates new layers of compliance, liability and geopolitical risk for investors.

The investor capability gap
While interest in AI is growing, many investors lack the expertise, frameworks and internal capacity to assess and engage on AI-related risks effectively.

From developers to deployers
Engagement is currently focused on major AI developers, but risks and opportunities are increasingly concentrated in how AI is deployed across sectors.

Governance as the central lever
Across all perspectives, governance emerges as the most critical tool, ensuring boards and management teams are equipped to navigate uncertainty, balance trade-offs and make long-term decisions.

A transition moment for investors
AI represents a new phase of technological disruption, similar to past waves like telecoms and big data, but with broader and faster-reaching consequences.

Looking ahead

Part two will focus on the practical side, what investors can do, the tools and frameworks emerging, and where collective action can drive the most impact.

Disclaimer

This podcast and material referenced herein is provided for information only. It is not intended to be investment, legal, tax or other advice, nor is it intended to be relied upon in making an investment or other decision. PRI Association is not responsible for any decision made or action taken based on information on this podcast. Listeners retain sole discretion over whether and how to use the information contained herein. PRI Association is not responsible for and does not endorse third parties featured on in this podcast or any third-party comments, content or other resources that may be included or referenced herein. Unless otherwise stated, podcast content does not necessarily represent the views of signatories to the Principles for Responsible Investment. All information is provided “as is” with no guarantee of completeness, accuracy or timeliness, or of the results obtained from the use of this information, and without warranty of any kind, expressed or implied. PRI Association is committed to compliance with all applicable laws. Copyright © PRI Association 2025. All rights reserved. This content may not be reproduced, or used for any other purpose, without the prior written consent of PRI Association.

In the ninth podcast of a series on the ESG in Credit Risk and Ratings Initiative, Sixtine Dubost (PRI) speaks with Lisa Abraham (Brown Advisory) and Florian Grandcolas (EthiFinance) about TCFD’s recommended disclosures and their incorporation in credit risk analysis.

Find the podcast transcript here: https://bit.ly/3te1A63

In this episode of the PRI podcast, Jasper Cox, Investment Practices Analyst at the PRI, speaks with Camilla Ogunbiyi, Senior Sovereign ESG Analyst at Nordea Asset Management, and James Lockhart Smith, Vice President for Markets at Verisk Maplecroft.

Sovereign nations are the ultimate guarantors of human rights, making the bonds they issue a logical focus for responsible investors. However, investors face unique challenges considering this topic in government debt. This podcast discusses the link between human rights and borrowing costs, how to find and use data on human rights, and engaging with countries on the subject.

Find the podcast transcript here: https://bit.ly/3EL5J5Z

In the eighth podcast of the series on the ESG in Credit Risk and Ratings Initiative, Carmen Nuzzo, PRI speaks with Barbara Mattos, Moody’s Investors Service and Jod Hsu, NN Investment Partners about deforestation and how it can affect credit risk analysis.

Find the podcast transcript here: https://bit.ly/3wTFyIp

In this episode of the PRI podcast, the PRI’s senior lead in listed equities, Michal Bartek speaks with Steve Lydenberg, a partner at Domini Social Investments.

They reflect on the key developments in responsible investing in decades past, discuss the nature of challenges that listed equity investors currently face and explore what it takes for listed equity asset managers to show leadership.

Find the podcast transcript here: https://bit.ly/3iqlrsA

This podcast explores how the US opioid crisis plays out at the local level, with repercussions not just on lives lost and healthcare costs, but also US municipal bonds and the cost of local authorities’ funding.

Leading the discussion are the PRI’s Carmen Nuzzo, Head of Fixed Income, and Katherine Ng, Head of Research. They’re joined by Eric Friedland, Director of Municipal Research, Lord Abbett, and John Hund, Assistant Professor of Finance, University of Georgia.

Interested in the resources discussed in this episode?

Opioid abuse affects municipal access to capital: https://www.unpri.org/pri-blog/opioid-abuse-affects-municipal-access-to-capital/8827.article

Sub-sovereign debt resources: https://www.unpri.org/investment-tools/fixed-income/sub-sovereign-debt

Fixed income resources: https://www.unpri.org/investment-tools/fixed-income

PRI academic research: https://www.unpri.org/sustainability-issues/research

Find the podcast transcript: https://bit.ly/3Iwl4s6 

In this episode of the PRI podcast, the PRI’s senior lead in listed equities, Michal Bartek speaks with Edris Boey of Maitri Asset Management.

They reflect on the key developments in ESG incorporation in APAC region, discuss what it takes for investment organisations to be or keep up with the leaders in the field.

Find the podcast transcript here: https://bit.ly/3AptNJr

In this episode, the PRI’s Simon Whistler talks with Chris Clubb from Convergence and Nadia Nikolova from Allianz Global Investors on the role of blended finance in driving more sustainable investment in emerging markets. They discuss the challenges and opportunities blended finance provides for institutional investors, and why it can be such an important tool delivering more investments that will speed progress towards Net Zero and the SDGs.

Find the podcast transcript here: https://bit.ly/3qcd0ow

In this episode of the PRI’s human rights podcast series, the PRI’s Bettina Reinboth speaks to Surya Deva, Chair of the UN Working Group on Business and Human Rights and John Morrison, CEO of the Institute of Human Rights and Business, on the impact of the UNGPs during the last decade since they were established, and what we should expect for the next decade.  

Find the podcast transcript here: https://bit.ly/3Ihzc8K

The PRI’s Jasper Cox discusses how environmental, social and governance issues affect the credit risk of US municipal bonds with PIMCO’s Emily Robare and Breckinridge Capital Advisors’ Andrew Teras.

Find the podcast transcript here:

https://bit.ly/3cXYeey

In this episode of the PRI podcast, Michal Bartek, senior lead in listed equities from PRI speaks with Peter Michaelis from Liontrust.

They reflect on the key developments in responsible investing in decades past, discuss the likely issues in the next decade and explore what it takes for listed equity asset management firms to be among the leaders.

Find a transcript of the episode here: https://bit.ly/3CZIcw8

In this episode, Tamsin Ballard, Chief Investor Initiatives Officer at the PRI, is joined by Oshadee Siyaguna, Head of Stewardship at J.O. Hambro Capital Management and Regnan, to explore early progress and lessons from collaborative investor action on nature.

Drawing on insights from the inaugural Spring progress report, they examine how investors are beginning to address financially material nature and biodiversity risks, what effective engagement looks like in practice, and why collaboration is critical in tackling complex, system-level challenges.

Overview:

Investor action on nature is gaining momentum. With over 240 investors representing more than US $19 trillion in AUM endorsing Spring, engagement is scaling across sectors and geographies.

Early progress shows companies are starting to assess nature-related risks and dependencies, while investors are building shared frameworks, tools and approaches. However, real-world outcomes remain limited, highlighting the gap between engagement activity and measurable environmental impact.

Detailed Coverage:

Nature as a financial risk
Companies are increasingly recognising nature and biodiversity as financially material risks. However, these risks often remain externalities unless supported by regulation or clear policy signals.

Why nature is different from climate
Unlike climate, which centres on carbon as a measurable metric, nature is more complex and harder to quantify, requiring a broader, systems-level approach rather than single metrics or pricing mechanisms.

The role of collaboration
Spring enables investors to pool expertise, share resources and deliver more consistent messaging. This collective approach helps tackle issues that are difficult to address through bilateral engagement alone.

Key lessons from engagement
Investors are learning the importance of pragmatism, pacing and consistency. Companies need time to build internal capacity, and overly rapid demands risk superficial, compliance-led responses.

Gaps and challenges
Progress is strongest in operational and supply chain practices, but gaps remain in responsible political engagement, data availability and regulatory clarity.

Systems thinking and resilience
A central theme is the need to view nature as part of a broader system. Long-term investment outcomes depend on resilient environmental, social and economic systems.

What needs to happen next
Priorities include building capacity across investors and companies, improving data and tracking, strengthening regulatory frameworks, and developing more robust conceptual approaches to nature stewardship.

A call to action for investors
Investors are encouraged to engage, contribute and collaborate. Flexible participation models mean there are multiple ways to get involved and drive progress.

Chapters:

00:07 - Introduction and Spring progress overview
02:12 - Early momentum and investor participation
03:19 - Why nature stewardship needed a new approach
05:35 - Nature vs climate: complexity and measurement challenges
08:25 - Lessons from the first 18 months
11:14 - Making nature risks financially material
17:20 - Signs of progress and remaining gaps
19:59 - Why collaboration matters more than ever
26:17 - What needs to happen next
31:52 - Final reflections: investor responsibility

Disclaimer:

This podcast and material referenced herein is provided for information only. It is not intended to be investment, legal, tax or other advice, nor is it intended to be relied upon in making an investment or other decision. PRI Association is not responsible for any decision made or action taken based on information on this podcast. Listeners retain sole discretion over whether and how to use the information contained herein. PRI Association is not responsible for and does not endorse third parties featured on in this podcast or any third-party comments, content or other resources that may be included or referenced herein. Unless otherwise stated, podcast content does not necessarily represent the views of signatories to the Principles for Responsible Investment. All information is provided “as is” with no guarantee of completeness, accuracy or timeliness, or of the results obtained from the use of this information, and without warranty of any kind, expressed or implied. PRI Association is committed to compliance with all applicable laws. Copyright © PRI Association 2025. All rights reserved. This content may not be reproduced, or used for any other purpose, without the prior written consent of PRI Association.

During this episode, Eline Sleurink, Head of UK and Ireland and Middle East, Dave Gorman, Head of Social Responsibility and Sustainability, University of Edinburgh and Ben Pollard, CEO and Cofounder, Cushon discuss how the University of Edinburgh and Cushon have set a net zero target, the first steps they are taking to achieve this, how they built a business case for net zero internally, and how they are holding themselves accountable.

Find a transcript of the episode here: https://bit.ly/2Y5tDIr

In the seventh podcast of a series on the ESG in Credit Risk and Ratings Initiative, Sixtine Dubost (PRI) speaks with Madeleine King (Legal & General Investment Management) and Elisabeth Rudman (DBRS Morningstar) about governance factors, how they affect the probability of default of an issuer or of a bond issue and why their relevance is increasing.

Find a transcript of this episode here:

https://bit.ly/3tmCwsm

Our guest speakers, Alex Cobham from Tax Justice Network and Ryan Gurule from the FACT Coalition will be sharing their insights on the global tax reforms and implications for investors.

Find a transcript of this episode here:

https://bit.ly/3yuxdrB

In this episode of the PRI podcast, the PRI’s director of investment practices, Toby Belsom speaks with Alex van der Velden of Ownership Capital.

They discuss Alex’s journey to becoming a leader in the field of ESG integration in listed equity, his views on current practices and how they are evolving, and the challenges and opportunities that remain for investors looking to integrate ESG issues within their listed equity investments.

Find a transcript of this episode here: https://bit.ly/3Bgkuei