Relocating from South Africa to another country is a big decision, and requires careful planning and adapting to a lot of change.

Today, I'm excited to bring you a conversation with Siobhan Erasmus, who decided to leave South Africa for Spain in 2018 after a traumatic home invasion (which is sadly a common story among South Africans today). She and her family took their time to plan the move, ensuring they wouldn't make any rushed decisions they'd later regret. Siobhan's European background gave her options, but her husband preferred a sunny place like their home in South Africa, leading them to choose Valencia. Despite their careful planning, they faced challenges, like adjusting to a new language, social isolation, and Covid delaying the move.

Her story is one of a lot of consideration over a few years, and navigating the challenges of adjusting to an entirely different lifestyle. What struck me most was Siobhan's honesty about the difficulties of building new connections and the importance of being prepared for the language barrier.

Siobhan's main motivator was ensuring a safer environment for her daughter, and although she misses some aspects of South Africa, the safety and new opportunities in Spain outweigh the negatives.

“You can't get into the culture if you don't speak the language.” - Siobhan Erasmus

00:00 Introduction

05:11 Local language is essential

10:53 Navigating foreign healthcare

16:37 Illusion of progress

17:17 Spain vs Johannesburg, South Africa

22:48 Reflecting on trauma

25:34 Choosing safety over danger

27:04 Settling down for good

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

In this episode, I talk with Mariette Momberg, who left South Africa to build a new life in Dublin, Ireland. With a background in finance and a thirst for experiencing the world, Mariette's story is sure to resonate with many.

Mariette moved to Dublin five years ago for a combination of personal and professional reasons. She desired to experience more of the world alongside her husband (as they're both in finance and wanted to travel more), be closer to family abroad, and expand her career in investment management. She has an EU passport (which definitely made relocating easier), and they wanted to find a place with a lifestyle and culture similar to South Africa. Although the move was emotional, her vision of a better future for her career growth as well as for raising children outside of South Africa means that they do not regret the decision at all.

I was truly inspired by her journey and how she embraced the new culture while navigating the ups and downs of relocation, especially during such a challenging time like COVID. I hope you'll find her story as valuable and inspiring as I did.

“Once you get your people and you get your support structure, you get closer a lot quicker.” - Mariette Momberg

00:00 Introduction

03:25 A big career decision

07:14 Building a South African network

10:25 Debating returning home

13:29 Furniture misfits

17:18 Embracing positivity in challenges

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Relocating from South Africa to other countries is not always easy. And today I'd like to share my own experience of going through the process.

In this episode, I'll be sharing the story behind the emigration journey that my wife and I embarked on since deciding to leave South Africa in 2020. After living in multiple foreign countries, facing many unexpected hurdles, and experiencing the highs and lows of starting anew, we're now happily settled in Portugal, and have no plans of returning.

I'll walk you through the reasons behind our decision, the challenges we faced along the way, and how we finally found our home in a place we love. It's been quite the adventure, and I'm excited to share it with you all in the hope it might resonate or even help someone considering a similar path.

00:00 Introduction

04:22 Unexpected house sale sparked the big move

09:45 Fleeing Dutch weather for France

10:43 Our lockdown adventure

15:11 Relocating to Portugal

18:09 Embracing our new life abroad

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

The show for navigating emigration from South Africa for a better future.

Join host Jan Hugo as he shares authentic emigration stories from South Africans who've taken the leap. You'll hear about what drove their decision to leave, the mistakes they made, and how they've built new lives abroad.

We'll explore everything from the emotional reality of leaving friends and family behind, to the challenges of emigrating to a foreign country.

Relocating isn't always simple, but this show will provide you with the certainty, practical information and support to make the whole process easier.

All parents want their children to grow up somewhere they can be happy, healthy and thrive – but what if that meant packing up and leaving everything you'd ever known behind?

In today's episode, I spoke with father, husband and founder of the travel app Oorsee, Steven Phyffer, who made the ultimate sacrifice for his family when he decided they needed to leave South Africa.

We'll explore Steven's fascinating journey from South Africa to the UK and eventually to Australia. He and his wife made this move with their young family, seeking not only new adventures but a place where their children could live their best lives. What strikes me most about Steven's story is his dedication to building a sense of community for South Africans abroad, through his app and online presence.

You'll no doubt be inspired, as Steven shares both the struggles and joys of emigration, the importance of creating your own community abroad and advice for anyone thinking about moving overseas.

His warmth and enthusiasm for connecting with others are truly heartwarming, and I know you'll find as much value in his story as I did.

“I decided that I want to build this app that's going to help bring South Africans together. A social media app, but without all the distractions in it.” - Steven Phyffer

00:00 Introduction

01:00 Starting Oorsee and emigrating

08:17 Navigating emigration costs

12:59 Celebrating South African culture

17:19 My advice on saving

21:11 Buying a bakkie

25:01 Finding a common thread

28:01 Opportunities abroad

Resources

• Check out the Oorsee app: https://oorsee.com/
• Watch Steven’s interviews on the Oorsee YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Oorsee-app
• Join Steven’s Facebook group “South Africans currently LIVING abroad”: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salivingabroad/

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered if moving overseas could really give your children a better future? Or what it’s actually like to leave South Africa behind and start fresh in a new country with your whole family?

Today I speak to Rogerio Vieira, who made the decision to relocate with his wife and five children from South Africa to Lagos, Portugal - the same place my wife and I have relocated to! Rogerio shares what it was like to adjust to life here in Lagos, why they felt it was the right move for their kids, and what challenges they’ve faced along the way — especially when it comes to fitting into a new schooling system and learning a new language.

As someone who’s gone through their relocation experience, it was great to chat with Rogerio and hear his honest perspective. I really enjoyed hearing about his family’s journey, the ups and downs, and his advice for anyone considering making the same move. I think you’ll find his story both relatable and helpful if you’re thinking about your own future abroad.

“The younger they are, I think they pick it up quite easily. Us older people, it's a bit more difficult. It's not an easy language.” - Rogerio Vieira

00:00 Introduction

04:21 Rogerio’s father’s immigration story

06:29 Living in Lagos

11:04 The possibility of returning to South Africa

13:18 Don’t make the same mistake we did!

14:55 Getting his wife’s Portuguese passport

18:49 His advice for those leaving SA today

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever looked back on a big decision, and realised that you did the right thing, even after all this time?

In this episode, I spoke with Wade Loehmer, who moved to Dubai with his wife when she was six months pregnant. Three kids later, and Wade and his family are celebrating ten years in this vibrant city. Initially sparked by a work opportunity and familial ties to the United Arab Emirates, he took a chance and hasn’t looked back.

We spoke about what it’s like to live in a place that’s so different from virtually anywhere else in the world. Hearing about the adventures and adjustments that come with raising three children in a foreign land was both insightful and heartening. The challenges were certainly there, but so were the opportunities, and Wade shared some solid advice for those considering a similar path.

Join me as we journey through his story together, and perhaps you’ll be encouraged to take a similar (big) step!

“We all know we have to leave at some point and I think that's the difficulty in the UAE … everyone has to leave [because] there's no real retirement facilities available to an expat.” - Wade Loehmer

00:00 Introduction

04:04 Building a South African construction company

06:52 Following investment and rental trends

10:55 Challenges of emigrating

13:43 Longing for South Africa

19:00 Safe community for expats

20:54 Cycling and running

23:41 Hope for change in South Africa

27:57 Starting small in financial management

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever thought about selling everything and moving overseas for a fresh start? What would you do if it didn’t work out quite like you hoped?

In this episode, I chat with Lilly Quintal, who moved with her family from South Africa to Portugal after long-term financial struggles and the hope for a better future. Lilly opens up about what happened when they arrived, only to find out, months later, that they had been lied to and were faced with nothing but empty promises. What followed was months of debilitating depression, struggling to get the support they needed and having to say goodbye to the half a million rand they had spent to try and make their new life happen. It was a tough journey, and after 21 months in Portugal, Lilly and her family decided to return to South Africa.

I really appreciated Lilly’s honesty and courage in sharing the reality behind her emigration story, especially given how challenging the experience turned out to be.

It was uplifting to hear about how they eventually found a support system, made lifelong friends and reunited with family. Let Lily's story be a cautionary tale to anyone looking to immigrate: always, always do your due diligence before making the move.

“There was a lot of guilt, the fact that I'd left them behind going to Portugal for a better future and then unfortunately things just didn't work out.” - Lilly Quintal

00:00 Introduction

02:16 Deciding to leave South Africa

03:28 Empty promises

05:26 “I hit rock bottom”

06:25 Doing due diligence

09:12 Finding community in Portugal

12:55 My heart was in SA

14:50 Longing to come back home

17:52 Struggling with depression

21:04 Seeking a better future financially

23:35 Blessed to be back

24:47 Do your homework

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

When the safety and security of your family comes under threat, would you move over 10,000km across the world? What if that meant leaving behind all of your family and friends?

In this episode, I spoke with Lindi Dercksen, who moved from eManzimtoti, South Africa, to Australia’s Gold Coast. Lindi opened up about her family’s journey, from the early doubts and tough goodbyes to the experience of finding work and creating a new home from scratch.

After looting, loadshedding and retrenchment, Lindi and her family decided to enact their dream of moving somewhere that had a big South African community, but could offer their young children a better quality of life.

I really enjoyed hearing how she and her husband made the decision for the sake of their kids, but also for themselves, and how their lives have changed since arriving in Australia.

It was inspiring to hear her positive attitude, the resilience of her children, and the way the South African community in Australia supports each other through the ups and downs. I found our conversation relatable, especially when it comes to missing family and building a simpler, safer life.

“Kids are so resilient and they are so, so much stronger than what we think.” - Lindi Dercksen

00:00 Introduction

01:21 Reason for leaving South Africa

06:02 Speaking Afrikaans in Australia

07:22 Missing family back home

08:52 Finances and finding a job

10:22 The day we left

12:59 There’s no turning back

13:57 Australia’s South African community

15:47 How similar is the lifestyle?

20:16 Do people question your decision?

22:37 Would you have done anything differently?

23:48 Advice for immigrating

26:06 Missing South Africa and appreciating Australia

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

What makes a young South African couple decide to move to a country they've never even visited? And, after nearly a decade abroad, what makes them choose to return home?

In this episode, I had the pleasure of speaking with Hester and Johan Pieterse, who originally left Cape Town in 2016 for Ireland. They didn’t know anyone there, and hadn’t even visited Ireland before making the jump – talk about taking a leap of faith! Over the next nine years, they built careers, started a family, and eventually became Irish citizens. But as you’ll hear, the pull of family and sunshine drew them back to South Africa.

Unlike most of the conversations I've had with other South Africa emigrants, Hester and Johan never planned on relocating permanently. My wife and my plan had always been to make the move for good, so it was refreshing to talk to people with a completely different experience of relocating.

“You can go and come back. You’ve got nothing to lose” - Hester Pieterse

00:00 Introduction

04:36 Visiting South Africa

06:55 Cost of living in Cape Town

12:31 Getting Irish citizenship

18:27 Would you have done anything differently?

19:46 Underestimating the red tape

20:46 Considering safety in South Africa

23:50 The decision to return to South Africa

26:07 Do you have any local friends considering emigrating?

27:18 Shielded from local politics

28:48 Advice for relocating with kids

31:41 Things we miss about Ireland

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

You’ve probably seen South Africa in the news a lot lately - and not a lot of it is good news! How does the news impact the decision to leave, stay, or even return? And what is it that keeps people positive about South Africa, despite all the challenges that make headlines?

In this episode, I had the privilege of sitting down with Paul Harris, a well-known South African entrepreneur, businessman, and one of the founders of Rand Merchant Bank - and my former boss, I might add! With so much negativity and noise in the media about South Africa, often from those who have left, I wanted to get Paul’s perspective on why he still feels so strongly about the country, and why it's important to report good news too.

Chatting with Paul was a refreshing experience, mainly because of his ongoing optimism about South Africa, even when times are tough. Our conversation helped me reflect on my own journey and the reasons behind deciding to move abroad. It also reminded me why, despite having left, I’ll always love my country!

Hopefully, our discussion can help others think more deeply about what it really means to stay or leave, and how much our attitude and actions can impact our future - no matter where we are in the world.

“I'm a proper South African and more South African than any Australian is Australian and any American is an American.” - Paul Harris

00:00 Introduction

05:33 South Africa's resilience over the years

06:35 Being positive about South Africa

11:12 “Would you live in the wilderness or would you live in a zoo?”

16:09 South Africans are resourceful and aspirational

21:56 Adapting to a new culture abroad

27:38 Improving South Africa-US relations

32:14 Navigating opinions on social media

Resources

• Read Paul’s original ‘message to a friend overseas’ on Biznewshere: https://www.biznews.com/sarenewal/2025/01/14/paul-harris-no-need-to-stress-about-sa

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered what it really takes to pick up your life and move to a new country? What does it look like to build and maintain a support network once you've left? What are the pros and cons about emigrating?

In this episode, we answer these questions and more as I’m joined by my good friend and fellow nomad, Ian Visser. Ian has lived in several countries and has a wealth of experience when it comes to uprooting and starting again somewhere new.

We chatted about the realities of emigration, including the tough decisions you have to make, the things you miss most about home, and the surprises that come with making such a big move.

I really enjoyed hearing his differing perspective on what it takes to relocate, leaving behind everything familiar to make a fresh start, and when going back might actually make sense.

“What is underappreciated is probably one of the most courageous things that a person or a family can do.” - Ian Visser

00:00 Introduction

02:38 Emigrating is courageous

03:13 What makes a “successful” move

05:53 What about going back to SA?

10:39 Financial realities of moving abroad

13:28 Comparing healthcare in SA and abroad

15:53 Rebuilding a network

19:10 Positives of emigrating

23:33 “Just go and explore”

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered what it’s like to start a new life on the other side of the world – away from family, familiar places, and the routines you’ve always known? Or questioned what really makes someone decide to move for good, especially when it means leaving behind the comfort of close connections?

In this episode, I chat with a fellow podcaster and Tukkies grad, Rudolph Botha, who swapped life in South Africa for Canberra, Australia almost 17 years ago. Rudolph’s story is one of balancing big decisions for his family’s future, finding new ways to connect with his roots, and navigating the everyday joys and challenges of being an expat.

Out of everyone I’ve spoken with so far, Rudolph and his family have been living abroad the longest. It was refreshing to hear how he’s built a happy life abroad in the long-term, while still being honest about the sacrifices and emotions that come with leaving loved ones behind. I especially enjoyed hearing about his role as a podcast co-host of ‘Magalies Potgooi’ (which I recently appeared on as a guest) and the importance of staying connected with fellow South Africans, no matter where in the world you land.

“If you can move to a place where you've got some sort of support system, that is, I think, one of the biggest advantages.” - Rudolph Botha

00:00 Introduction

04:40 Why Rudolph made the decision to leave

06:13 Life in Canberra

10:53 Fleeing the South African political situation

12:46 Advice for anyone emigrating

15:46 Phases of emigrating

18:05 Finding community at the dog park

20:33 Did he ever consider going back to South Africa?

25:01 Feeling safe in Australia

27:54 Navigating Australia’s red tape

30:10 Pros and cons of taking your furniture overseas

33:15 “Test your reasons”

35:04 No regrets

Resources

• Listen to Jan’s guest appearance on Rudolph’s podcast, ‘Magalies Potgooi’: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6mDsvKvQZOqJKCkSkiWVQv?si=b0e816da8bb540c8

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered what drives someone to leave behind a comfortable life in South Africa and start over in a completely new country? Or what it really takes to rebuild everything from scratch - career, family life, even community - when you move abroad?

In this episode, I had the privilege of speaking with Zelda Botha, who left South Africa nearly thirty years ago for a new life in the United States. Zelda and her husband were both full-time pastors, living a stable and successful life before feeling a strong calling to move. They were seeking fairness and equality, which they found abroad. I was truly inspired by Zelda’s openness as she walked me through the many challenges their family faced, from having to start over with practically nothing, to juggling multiple jobs so that their children could have the best opportunities possible.

I really enjoyed my conversation with Zelda. Her determination and faith, as well as her candid accounts of embracing change and working incredibly hard, were deeply moving. She didn’t shy away from sharing just how tough moving overseas can be, or what it means to build a new life from the ground up. I found her story to be not only inspirational but also a helpful reality check for anyone considering the same journey.

“You have to have the attitude of the heart to become successful.” - Zelda Botha

00:00 Introduction

05:18 Leaving a pre-democratic country

07:53 Being a pastor in SA

11:29 Faith vs finances

18:16 The spiritual side of social media

20:13 Creating TikToks for South Africans

25:00 Career adjustment struggles

30:22 Affordable medical care

33:51 Balancing work, family and homeschooling

37:03 Embracing opportunity

40:23 Working in retail

49:01 Regret over language choices

50:17 Red tape and logistics

56:38 Willing to help others move abroad

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever thought about taking your studies international? What about starting out a new business venture abroad? What challenges and opportunities might arise, and how do you overcome them?

In this episode, I chat to Kyle du Toit, who left South Africa to pursue his studies in Budapest, Hungary, before later working in Austria and eventually returning to Hungary to try his hand at entrepreneurship. I really enjoyed hearing Kyle’s story, because he’s so obviously adventurous and open-minded. He wasn’t afraid to take risks and try new things. It was inspiring to learn how he navigated language barriers, adapted to new cultures, and has managed to stay connected with family and friends back home.

If you’re considering a future abroad, or just want to hear a relatable story about life after leaving South Africa, I think you’ll really enjoy this episode.

“I wanted to move abroad just to spread my wings.” - Kyle du Toit

00:00 Introduction

04:32 An entrepreneurial mindset

07:05 Studying at an international university

09:21 Overcoming the language barrier

14:45 Work experience abroad

17:11 Impression of SA nowadays

19:33 What he misses most about SA

21:30 Reflecting on making mistakes

23:52 Advice for moving abroad

25:01 Favourite things about Budapest

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered what it’s really like to uproot your whole life and move your family to a small island in the middle of the Irish Sea? Or what would make someone leave the warmth and familiarity of South Africa for a place where summer might only last a few days?

In this episode, I chat with Alicia and Silvano Pizzocaro, a South African couple who decided to search for a safer environment and better future for their children, and chose the Isle of Man as their new home. We talk about everything from the notorious weather and the world-famous TT motorbike race, to what it really means to feel settled and build a new sense of community far from home.

I truly enjoyed hearing Alicia and Silvano’s story. Their honesty about the ups and downs of life abroad, as well as the humour in their day-to-day experiences – like walking home at 2am with a pizza in hand, something they’d never do in South Africa – was inspiring and relatable. I hope you enjoy listening as much as I enjoyed our conversation.

“There is a better life out there than what South Africa has to offer.” - Alica Pizzocaro

00:00 Introduction

02:15 Experiencing the annual TT races

05:38 When and why they left SA

07:22 Lockdown on the Isle of Man

11:21 Their daughter was an alien

14:05 Visiting SA

16:31 Finding friends and community abroad

20:49 Feeling isolated

22:27 Sharing funny stories

24:02 Considering safety and loadshedding

26:01 Settling into their new life

27:41 Advice for anyone emigrating

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

What drives someone to leave behind the only home they've ever known? Is it crime, corruption, or simply searching for a better future for your child? Perhaps it’s all of these.

In this episode, I interview Martin Labuschagne, who made the big move from Pretoria, South Africa, to the UK with his wife and young son in 2019. Martin’s story stood out to me because, like myself, he made the decision to emigrate later in life, at the age of 48. We talk about what it's like to start over at an older age, the challenges of red tape, and the emotional toll of leaving family and friends behind.

Speaking to Martin was a real eye-opener. I felt a genuine connection with his story, especially his honesty about the difficulties, sacrifices, and the strong sense of responsibility he feels as a parent. His insights about integrating with a new community, dealing with practical hurdles, and the emotional side of moving abroad really resonated with me.

If you’re considering relocating or are interested in how others navigate this journey, I’m sure you’ll find Martin’s story as compelling and relatable as I did.

“If you can go, go in your 20s or in your 30s, go as soon as you can so you can start making a life there earlier.” - Martin Labuschagne

00:00 Introduction

03:32 Rushing to relocate pre-Brexit

05:50 Proving their relationship was real

10:25 Immigrate early

15:52 Moving to the UK is expensive

18:58 Would they ever go back?

22:40 Giving away his beloved books

25:06 Writing from the heart

27:16 Feeling numb when they left SA

29:45 Advice for anyone thinking of leaving

Resources

• Read Martin’s original article about emigrating from South Africa, published by Netwerk24: https://www.netwerk24.com/netwerk24/stemme/menings/martin-labuschagne-teenoor-britse-jeugdiges-is-kinders-in-sa-nogal-soet-20250618

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered what it really feels like to leave South Africa behind, or why some people choose to seek opportunities elsewhere? Is it about following your ambitions, looking for safety, or simply searching for a different way of life?

In this episode, I’m joined by Khaya Dlanga - a South African author, marketing executive, and media personality who has achieved so much both at home and abroad. Khaya might be best known for his storytelling and books, but today we dive deep into the emotional side of what it means to leave South Africa: what it means to miss your family, how to cope with grief when you’re far from loved ones, and why building community is so important wherever you find yourself in the world.

Having read Khaya’s latest book, 'Life Is Like That Sometimes', I felt a real connection to his stories about family, loss, and finding belonging. It was both moving and uplifting to talk honestly about the sacrifices, hopes, and challenges that come with relocating, and why, even in the darkest of times, we can still “glow in the dark”.

So if you’re thinking of moving abroad, or you’re already living far from home and missing those everyday South African moments, I hope you’ll find this episode both comforting and inspiring.

“Depending on what drove you overseas, your attitude will be different depending on whether there's a pull factor or a push factor.” - Khaya Dlanga

00:00 Introduction

05:15 YouTube, a happy accident

07:05 Trevor Noah is a global citizen

13:35 Pull vs push factor

15:12 Unemployment in South Africa

21:40 Writing got Khaya through grief

30:21 Building your community

34:45 Advice for staying in South Africa

39:30 “Even in my darkest hour, I glow in the dark”

Resources

• Connect with Khaya on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/khayadlanga
• Follow Khaya on X (Twitter): https://x.com/khayadlanga

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered what it would be like to pack up your life in South Africa and move somewhere completely different, all for the sake of a better future for your children? Or what goes through your mind when you look at your home country and start thinking about life twenty years from now?

In this episode, I spoke with Margaux and Dian de Wet, a couple originally from Johannesburg who took the big leap to Cape Cod, Massachusetts in the United States. Their story takes us all the way from Joburg to Barcelona, where Dian studied for his MBA, before finally arriving in America, where they've built a new life for themselves and their twins.

I really enjoyed talking with Margaux and Dian. My conversation with the de Wets was refreshing, and they were open about the tough decisions, sacrifices, and adjustments they had to make - the biggest one was leaving family behind, but there was also getting used to new cultures, and tackling the realities of visas and finding community in a foreign place.

Their reflections on knowing your "why" and sticking together as a couple really hit home for me, and I think their perspective will resonate with anyone considering a similar change.

“I didn't want to go and be poor in another country. That was a big thing for me.” - Dian de Wet

00:00 Introduction

04:09 Doing his MBA abroad

08:03 Creating a new future for their family

15:24 Getting used to the cold

17:53 Finding South African community in Cape Cod

23:26 US Visa challenges

30:22 Safety abroad vs South Africa

32:47 Domestic help is expensive abroad

35:34 Advice for emigrants

Resources

• Join the South African Women in The USA & Canada Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1957344347867518/

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered what it’s like to face major life challenges far away from the familiar comforts of home and family? Or how it feels to build a new identity and raise a family abroad, without the built-in support systems so many of us take for granted?

In this episode, I had the privilege of speaking with Ruth Prinsloo, whose story takes us from her childhood in Boksburg, to a life spread across continents. Ruth has not only navigated the practical and emotional realities of relocating -moving through France, Japan, and now the Netherlands - but has also beat cancer, rebuilt her sense of self, and raised a family in a foreign land, all while being far from her closest relatives.

Interviewing Ruth left a deep impression on me. She speaks with such honesty about the difficulties of coping with illness when your family is thousands of kilometres away, the challenge of forming your own identity in a new country, and the bittersweet emotions involved in seeing your children create their own connections with South Africa from afar.

If you’re interested in the real, sometimes raw experience of carving out a life abroad - especially when it comes to family, health, and finding your place in the world - you won’t want to miss Ruth’s moving and insightful story.

“To be able to let go of my idea of how I thought it would work out and just simply take it as it comes.” - Ruth Prinsloo

00:00 Introduction

05:21 An out-of-the-blue opportunity in Japan

09:15 How she ended up in Amsterdam

11:20 Her journey with cancer

14:00 Crafting as part of recovery

16:35 Pursuing bronze sculpting

21:04 Meeting a renowned sculptor

26:43 Playing rugby in Holland

31:40 SA vs European perspective

35:06 Coping with fear and trauma

40:38 Looking forward, not backwards

44:53 She experienced a medical miracle

Resources

• Join ‘South Africans currently LIVING abroad’ on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salivingabroad/

Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever felt that your voice was being stifled, or wondered what it would be like to leave everything behind just so you could tell the truth? What would drive a journalist to walk away from their homeland - not out of adventure, but because they could no longer breathe under the weight of censorship?

In this episode, I have the privilege of speaking with Johan Allers, a man whose work on local television and radio was a familiar part of my own childhood. Johan’s career saw him reporting on some of the most important and difficult moments in our country’s history, but it was the growing pressure to toe the official line - and the inability to report freely and honestly - that eventually pushed him to leave South Africa.

Interviewing Johan was a powerful reminder of just how personal the choice to relocate can be. For Johan, it wasn’t just about career ambition or curiosity about life overseas; it was fundamentally about integrity, and the need to tell real stories without interference and fear. His reflections on those final years in South Africa, the moments when he realised he could not be the kind of journalist he aspired to be, really struck a chord with me.

Whether you’re thinking about moving abroad, facing similar professional crossroads, or simply interested in the stories behind South Africa’s media past, I hope you’ll find Johan’s journey as compelling and honest as I did.

“I actually became for the first time, truly confronted with the realities of South Africa as it was seen [through] the eyes of the Europeans at that time.” - Johan Allers

00:00 Introduction

05:14 Award-winning producer

09:16 Early career ambitions

11:50 Being a journalist during apartheid

14:24 Media manipulation in South Africa

20:15 Connections to the liberation movement

22:25 Meeting Kofi Annan

25:14 Chance encounter with Muhammad Ali

30:19 Moving to Amsterdam

33:26 Travelling Europe for TV

38:10 His views on the Afrikaans refugees in the U.S

41:46 Longing for home

44:04 The essence of SA

Resources

• Watch Johan’s YouTube videos, ‘AllesAfrikaans (Beyond the Borders)’: https://www.youtube.com/@JohanAllers
• Tune in to Johan’s weekly show, ‘Pareltjes uit Amsterdam’ on Litnet: https://www.litnet.co.za/author/johan-allers

Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever thought about how stressful it might be to leave your home country and start again somewhere new? Or wondered if there are ways to really cope with all the pressures and changes that come with relocating?

In this episode, I chat with Marijke Bruins, a South African-born psychologist now living and working in the Netherlands, about how to manage the stress of moving abroad. We dive into all the real-life challenges - like the shock of leaving behind your support system, language barriers, missing home, dealing with loneliness, and adapting to a new culture. Marijke shares her own experience of moving to Amsterdam and talks honestly about the emotional hurdles, from anxiety and adjustment issues to doubts and the importance of having a support network.

Talking to Marijke was truly eye-opening for me. Her mix of personal anecdotes and professional advice gave me a much better understanding of what it really takes to settle in a new country, both mentally and emotionally. If you’re feeling overwhelmed by the idea or the reality of relocation, I think you’ll find Marijke’s advice helpful and reassuring, just as I did.

“No matter what the reasons or opportunities are, there will be times of difficulty and feelings of loss and trauma.” - Marijke Bruins

00:00 Introduction

03:45 Mental health care abroad

07:52 Navigating relocation stress

11:13:16 Younger vs older expats’ challenges

14:51 Struggling to settle in

20:14 Mixed emotions about leaving SA

24:38 Role of psychotherapy in relocating

27:34 Life abroad is expensive

29:59 Advice for moving overseas

31:47 Exploring Europe

33:38 Advice for anyone going through a tough time

Resources

• Connect with Marijke about dealing with the stress of relocating: https://www.marijkebruinspsychotherapy.com/

If you want to connect with us or share your own story, please contact us on:

relocatedsouthafrican@gmail.com

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

What would make a family uproot their lives in beautiful Somerset West and move all the way to the Netherlands? Is it career, safety, or the promise of a better future for their children? Or perhaps all three.

In this episode, I chat to Bradley and Abigail du Toit, a couple who made exactly that leap from South Africa to Europe with their family. Bradley, an old cycling buddy of mine, shares how his career as an electrical engineer opened doors abroad, while Abigail talks candidly about the joys and struggles that come with starting again in a new country.

Hearing their story was deeply relatable; I really appreciated how they shared all about the difficult parts, especially how much they miss family and the practical challenges of settling into Dutch life. I think many listeners will see their own questions and doubts reflected in this conversation.

“Open those doors. Don't be afraid. You never know. You just never know.” - Bradley du Toit

00:00 Introduction

06:49 Making the move abroad for their kids

10:01 How their kids are coping

11:44 Missing family in SA

14:15 Building a community at church

17:45 Wanting the best of both worlds

20:53 Justifying their decision to move

25:04 Opportunity to better their lives

26:14 Funny anecdotes

28:20 His advice for relocating

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered what it really takes to pack up your life and move overseas - not just physically, but mentally as well? What does it mean to fully commit to a new country, instead of keeping one foot in the place you came from?

In this episode, I talk to Norman and Chantal van Wyk, the first couple I’ve interviewed who made the move from South Africa to Norway. What struck me most about our conversation was how determined they were, right from the start, to go all in. They didn’t leave with a safety net or a backup plan to return home. Instead, they put all their energy into starting over and truly making Norway their new home.

I really enjoyed speaking to them. Their honesty about the ups and downs of committing fully to life in another country really resonated with me. If you’ve ever wondered about what it means to let go of your old life and embrace a new one wholeheartedly, I think you’ll find their story both inspiring and relatable.

“We need to make Norwegian friends. We can't just stay in this South African bubble. Although we're very appreciative of them.” - Norman van Wyk

00:00 Introduction

06:25 Seeking safety abroad

08:49 Life in the countryside

11:59 Serendipitous Scandinavian job offer

13:52 Finding the right house

18:18 Aligning their mindsets was key

22:34 Adapting to life in a foreign country

27:58 Applying for a visa

35:24 Breaking barriers with locals

37:57 Yearning for familiar connections

42:14 Limpet the cat went missing in Amsterdam

Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered what it’s really like to pack up your life in South Africa and start over in a place as far away as New Zealand? What makes someone leave everything familiar behind and begin again, especially when safety and a better future for their family are at stake?

In this episode, I chat to Dr. Kobus Du Plooy, a clinical psychologist who took the leap from Pretoria to Otago, New Zealand with his wife, right in the middle of the COVID-19 pandemic. We talk about the tough decisions that led up to their move, including the safety concerns that played a big part, Kobus’s career journey, adjusting to a new country, and how starting over brings both challenges and unexpected joys.

I really enjoyed this conversation with Kobus. He was such a down-to-earth guest, and I appreciated how open he was about the emotional side of relocating - from leaving family behind, to facing loneliness, to eventually finding their feet and building a new life. I found it especially moving to hear how he and his wife support each other and the practical advice he had for others considering a similar move.

If you’re thinking of moving abroad, or you're just curious about life in New Zealand as a South African, I think you’ll find Kobus’s story both relatable and inspiring.

“When I speak to a lot of South Africans here, they said had their circumstances been different, they wouldn't have wanted to make this move.” - Kobus Du Plooy

00:00 Introduction

05:58 Making the move mid-pandemic

10:03 Prioritising family safety

15:48 Balancing familiarity and change abroad

20:05 Overcoming reluctance to socialise

27:57 “It’s not for sissies”

31:11 Life isn’t always fair

34:43 Navigating change for the sake of opportunity

38:20 Teaching our kids to have manners

41:38 What he would have done differently

Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

In May 2025, the US welcomed its first batch of white Afrikaans South Africans as part of its divisive Refugee Admissions Program.

Some people are saying that they will be back, while others don’t even think they should have been accepted in the first place - it’s been dominating the headlines for months and today’s guest has become somewhat of a voice for the programme’s participants.

Andrea Shea is a wife, mother, and passionate activist for South Africans living in the United States. Andrea shares her journey of relocating from South Africa after her family won the diversity visa lottery, after many years of trying. We talk about everything from settling in Florida, cultural adjustments, and raising a family in a new country, to her activism in support of South Africans seeking a "safer and brighter future".

My discussion with Andrea was a truly eye-opening experience. Her honesty about the challenges of leaving South Africa, the realities of moving to the US, and her tireless work supporting others really struck a chord with me. I left our conversation feeling inspired by her resilience and her unwavering commitment to help fellow South Africans navigate these uncertain paths.

If you’re considering relocation, wanting to know more about the refugee programme to the US, or simply curious about what life is like after such a big move, this episode has plenty of insights and practical advice you won’t want to miss.

“I think people have it in their head that [if] you're a refugee, there's kind of like a stigma behind it. But no one I've known that has gone over on the programme has been stigmatised.” - Andrea Shea

00:00 Introduction

07:18 Visiting South Africa

12:19 US-SA relations

14:50 South African politics and the race debate

18:22 Is change imminent?

19:35 Addressing poverty

23:56 Chaotic start to refugee programme

27:20 Relocating for children’s future

31:37 Work visa vs. refugee programme

32:32 Misconceptions about being a US citizen

38:35 Embracing local culture abroad

Resources

• Contact Andrea via email: andreashea7@yahoo.com
• Follow her on X: https://x.com/andrea_spook

Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

To stay, or not to stay? Relocating overseas is one of the biggest, toughest decisions that one can make. You have to consider your reasons for it, look at the pros versus the cons, and weigh up all of the things you gain (and give up) when making that move.

Relocating from South Africa is not always easy. And today I'd like to share my own experience of going through that exact process.

In this episode, I'll be reflecting on the many insights and lessons learned from both my personal journey and from 24 previous conversations with other South Africans who have relocated. I'll talk about what makes people happy in South Africa, and what happens when those things start to disappear. Whether it's concerns about physical safety, job opportunities, or wanting a better education for your children, I'll cover the main reasons people find themselves seriously considering a move overseas.

I'll also speak honestly about the difficult parts - like missing family, the challenges of starting from scratch in a new country, and the grief that can come with breaking up close-knit communities. But it's not all negative! I'll share the practical things to think about before relocating, the joy of discovering new freedoms and opportunities, and why, after everything, my wife and I are settled and happy with the decision we made.

If you're thinking about relocating abroad, or just want to know what really goes through a person's mind before, during, and after such a big move, I hope you'll find some value in this episode.

“Sometimes it's hard to make the sacrifice now, but five years down the line, you look back and you'll say, wow, I did the right thing.” - Jan Hugo

00:00 Introduction

06:09 Essentials to consider pre-relocation

09:09 Opportunities abroad

11:07 Challenges of family separation

14:04 Making an aligned decision

19:04 Reflecting on leaving SA

If you want to connect with us or share your own story, please contact us on:

relocatedsouthafrican@gmail.com

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

From being born in South Africa, to moving to Canada as a teenager, and then back to South Africa (this time as an adult), today's guest has been on quite the journey!

Bronwyn Rodrigues is a mother, entrepreneur, and content creator who left South Africa at 15-years-old to start a new life in Canada - only to return home 23 years later. Bronwyn opened up about her reasons for relocating, the challenges and realities of life in Canada, and what ultimately brought her back home, with her young son.

Recounting her experience of navigating Canada’s healthcare and education systems, Bronwyn shared how local doctors told her she would “never be able to have children” and what it felt like to realise there was no place for her child in school as someone with special needs.

It was fascinating speaking to her, as she shared the difficult moments of navigating public systems in a foreign country and the ups and downs of resettling in South Africa. I think her story offers lots of relatable moments - whether you’re considering a move abroad, thinking about returning home, or just looking for inspiration from someone who’s faced tough choices and kept moving forward.

“I could not imagine how I was going to have a special needs child in that country.” - Bronwyn Rodrigues

00:00 Introduction

06:22 Mixing with SA expats in Canada

07:19 From endometriosis to falling pregnant

09:29 A long and difficult labour

11:22 Seeking help in the US

13:53 Returning to SA

18:12 Multiple businesses to support son’s medical needs

18:54 Feeling like she doesn’t belong

25:08 Virtual tour business

27:57 Commitment to local progress

30:41 Corruption and safety concerns

33:16 Navigating SA social dynamics

39:05 Overcoming depression in Canada

45:27 “Stay and appreciate your country”

48:05 Holidaying in Cape Town

Resources

• Discover Alpha Pro Virtual Tours: https://alphaprovirtualtours.co.za/
• Follow along with Bronwyn’s journey on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bronwyn_and_dylan

If you want to connect with us or share your own story, please contact us on:

relocatedsouthafrican@gmail.com

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered what it takes to pick up your entire life and move it - all five family members, ten suitcases, and countless memories - halfway across the world? What does it really feel like to leave everything you know for the “land of opportunity”, and face the wild adventure of starting over?

In this episode, I chat to Kirsten Halcrow, who - along with her husband Sheldon and their children Cassidy, Keenan, and Chase - made the life-changing move from Johannesburg to Florida, USA. Their story started with a family vote after Sheldon was offered the chance to spearhead a new division of his company in the USA. From there, it was a two-year rollercoaster of visa hurdles, emotional goodbyes, selling almost everything, and finally landing in their new American life, nervous yet excited.

I loved hearing Kirsten’s honest take on the all-too-familiar confusion of driving on the right side of the road, wrestling with Fahrenheit and pounds, and building a credit score from scratch - despite decades of being responsible adults in South Africa. Through the chaos, frustrations, and sheer hilarity of American life, the Halcrow family have shown true resilience and found their place, even as they miss those left behind.

Kirsten’s experiences led her to create www.emigrate2usa.co.za - a fantastic resource that offers trustworthy guidance for South Africans considering a move to the USA. It’s a platform shaped by their hands-on knowledge and committed to helping others demystify the process, from bureaucracy to cultural quirks.

“The problem with the US is there's not that many routes to entry. It's not a, you know, it's not, let me just get a job and a work visa.” - Kirsten Halcrow

00:00 Introduction

04:09 Halcrow family moves abroad

08:45 Navigating new beginnings

09:40 Guiding newcomers through relocation challenges

15:14 Adjusting to expensive cleaning costs

17:41 $25,000 to have her daughter’s tonsils out

20:26 Creating a second family abroad

24:42 “Did we abandon our roots?”

27:55 The Lekker Network

31:41 Relocating requires unity

35:19 It’s a journey, an adventure

Resources

• Reach out to Emigrate2USA: https://emigrate2usa.co.za/
• Join the Emigrate2USA Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/Emigrate2USA.co.za/
• Check out the Lekker Network: https://thelekkernetwork.com/

If you want to connect with us or share your own story, please contact us on:

relocatedsouthafrican@gmail.com

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

What makes someone decide to leave South Africa after thirty years and start again overseas? Is it crime, opportunity for kids, or maybe just a change in family circumstances? These are questions I explored in my latest chat with Steve Ayres, who moved from South Africa back to the UK after decades of building a life in Johannesburg.

In this episode, you’ll hear Steve’s honest take on what drove his family’s decision to relocate and what it’s really like being a South African abroad - even if, technically, he’s English by birth! I really enjoyed talking to Steve. His positive attitude towards South Africa, as well as his practical reflections on life in both countries, gave me a lot to think about. I hope you find Steve’s story as relatable and inspiring as I did.

Whether you’re considering relocating or just curious about other South Africans’ journeys, there’s something for you here.

“Building a life in the world's most beautiful country, which you've got to think it is really there, such an air of optimism and it… really felt like this was the best place on the planet.” - Steve Ayres

00:00 Introduction

04:12 His journey to SA

09:35 Longing for holidays in SA

12:36 What their family misses most

14:41 Connecting across continents

19:55 Global political leadership

23:17 Remote work experience pre-pandemic

26:53 SA vs England in sports

28:22 “Dog-earned ID”

If you want to connect with us or share your own story, please contact us on:

relocatedsouthafrican@gmail.com

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

From a job opportunity to seeking safety - these are just two of the many reasons someone might decide to pack up their life in South Africa and move all the way to North Dakota, USA. But what’s it really like to swap small-town life under African skies for snowy winters in rural America?

In this episode, I chatted to Sonéll Van Niekerk, who made that exact journey with her family in 2022. Sonéll shares how a professional opportunity opened the door to a new life abroad, what it was like to adapt to icy winters, and the challenges of leaving loved ones behind. We touch on making new friends, building community through faith and volunteering, and how her family have navigated these big changes together.

Sonéll is a faith-based educator and content creator, who has built a community online sharing Bible teaching videos on Instagram, Facebook and TikTok. She is active in her local church, and fosters both community integration and support among South African expatriates.

I thoroughly enjoyed our conversation – Sonéll’s positive outlook were truly inspiring. Her story offers first-hand advice and honest insight into the realities of relocating from South Africa, all while holding onto hope and building a better future.

“We have a slogan in our family... we should always stick together because we only have each other.” - Sonéll Van Niekerk

00:00 Introduction

06:10 Adjusting to icy winters

09:56 Her journey as a faith educator

11:19 Embracing community as an immigrant

16:01 Discovering a new professional role

17:39 Missing family

22:33 A family’s decision to leave

24:33 Moving to the States

29:22 SA refugee programme

Connect with Sonéll for her faith-based content on:

• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sonell.vanniekerk/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sonell_vn
• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sonell87

If you want to connect with us or share your own story, please contact us on:

relocatedsouthafrican@gmail.com

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever thought about the challenges of selling everything to be ready to emigrate and then Covid arrived?

In this episode, I speak to Hettie Meyer who relocated to Wellsford, New Zealand from the East Rand in South Africa. 

We talk about the family’s  journey from South Africa, the challenges of moving, and the differences in lifestyle, culture, and healthcare in New Zealand.

I really enjoyed hearing about Hettie’s experiences with moving, childcare and the importance of maintaining connections with loved ones back home. For me the conversation highlights the emotional aspects of emigration, the adjustments required, and the freedom and safety that come with living in New Zealand.

If emigration is on your horison you will find Hettie’s advice very useful.

"Don't bring your furniture."-Hettie Meyer

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Journey

02:46 Life in Wellsford, New Zealand

05:45 The Decision to Move

08:48 Challenges of Relocation

11:51 Family and Childcare in New Zealand

14:46 Cultural Differences and Community

17:30 Healthcare and Safety

20:32 Maintaining Family Connections

23:33 Reflections on South Africa

26:34 Food and Lifestyle Differences

29:08 Advice for Potential emigrants

Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

Do we sometimes neglect the feelings of parents who stay behind when their children decide to emigrate.

In this conversation, I speak with Rene Koekemoer, a South African mother who has two daughters who live abroad. We discuss the emotional journey of being a parent left behind, the sacrifices made by both parents and children, and the impact of distance on family dynamics. Rene shares her experiences of coping with separation, the importance of support systems, and the unconditional love that drives parents to want the best fortheir children, even when it means living far apart.

The discussion with Rene left me with a clear understanding of the emotional rollercoaster of a parent with children abroad. Her journey clearly reflects the emotional complexities of being a parent left behind.

Parents often suppress their emotions to remain strong for their children. Support systems for parents left behind are non-existent.

“I will never judge them."- René Koekemoer

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Journey of Immigration

02:44 Life as a Parent Left Behind

05:51 Navigating Emotions of Separation

08:47 Understanding the Decision to Leave

11:54 The Impact of Distance on Family Dynamics

14:47 The Loss of Family Connections

17:32 Coping with the Emotions of Departure

20:38 The Role of Support Systems

23:23 Finding Positivity in Separation

26:34 Advice for Parents of Immigrants

29:27 The Unconditional Love ofParents

Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

Imagine being a young aircraft engineer in the 1980’s in South Africa who goes to Russia to work on a top secret  military project.

In this episode, I talk to  Kobus De Villiers, who shares his journey from South Africa to Canada. Kobus tells us about his experiences  in aerospace engineering, and the secret project to build the MIG-29 engine into the South African Airforce’s Mirage and Cheetah aircraft.

Kobus has written 5 books and numerous articles, We discuss the challenges of emigration, the cultural adjustments in Canada, and his passion for writing, including his published works. He reflects on his life choices, the importance of commitment in emigration, and offers advice for those considering leaving South Africa.

It was a fascinating discussion with a man who has great passion for his work, his family and his writing and has lived an amazing life.

Kobus De Villiers: “my morals and my values are just not going to allow me to go there..”

00:00 Introduction to The Relocated South African Podcast

02:35 Kobus De Villiers: Journey from South Africa to Canada

05:03 Career in Aerospace Engineering and Military Projects

07:38 Collaboration with Russian Engineers on Military Aircraft

10:06 Transition to Life in Canada and New Opportunities

12:37 Challenges and Experiences in the Aerospace Industry

15:01 Family Life and Dual Citizenship

17:25 Writing Journey and Publishing Books

27:26 Writing and Personal Growth

33:34 Exploring the Publishing World

41:32 Reflections on Life Choices and emigration

48:21 Advice for Potential Immigrants

Kobus De Villiers’ books are available on Amazon both in hard copy and e books and at Kobus de Villiers Archives | Malherbe Uitgewers

Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

Imagine moving to the UK and building a successful life and career but after more than 20 years deciding to go back to South Africa.

In this episode, I chat to Wolf Dette, the owner of Wolfies Bar in London, who shares his journey from South Africa to the UK and back. Wolf discusses his early life, ambitions in finance and the challenges of running a business during COVID.

He talks about the family’s decision to return to South Africa for family and community support. He also explores the world of NFT's and crypto investments, reflecting on the importance of resilience and cultural identity.

I really enjoyed Wolf’s entrepreneurial spirit and his drive to provide what is best for his son’s health challenges.

Wolf Dette: "the amount of growing up that you do when you go overseas and there is no one to help you. No parents no friends ..”

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Journey

01:20 Early Life and Ambitions

04:29 Transition to the UK and Career Development

05:47 The Birth of little Wolf

08:21 A big UK tax bill

09:33 First Bitcoin purchase

16:30 Success in the UK

21:23 Community and Support Systems

23:20 Reflections on Safety and Crime

25:20 Cultural Identity and Resilience

28:00 Healthcare and Family Considerations

32:33 Crime in the UK

39:00 Things change when you emigrate and grow up

Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

Have you considered the feelings and emotions of parents whose children emigrate?  

In this episode I talk to Dr Sulette Ferreira, a migration therapist specializing in emigration therapy for families living apart. We discuss the emotional challenges faced by families, particularly parents left behind when children emigrate. 

Sulette highlights the concept of ambiguous loss, the importance of maintaining relationships across distances, and the need for community support. She emphasizes that emigration affects family dynamics and that parents often experience grief and longing for their children. The conversation also touches on the importance of seeking professional help and maintaining a positive relationship with children who have emigrated.

The conversation was interesting, and it made me appreciate caring for those who remain behind.

Sulette Ferreira: "Ambiguous loss is a continuous loss."

Chapters

00:00 Navigating emigration and Family Dynamics

03:23 Understanding the Emotional Impact of emigration

08:11 The Complexities of Long-Distance Relationships

12:40 Grief and Ambiguous Loss in emigration

17:01 The Role of Community and Support Systems

21:53 Financial and Logistical Challenges of emigration

26:36 Finding Meaning and Maintaining Relationships

33:47 Actionable Advice for Parents Left Behind

Dr Sulette can be contacted at www.drsulette.com. She is also on Facebook as Dr Sulette Ferreira and she has a private Facebook group for parents who stay behind “Worlds apart living in one heart”

Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

The decision to emigrate has lifelong implications and challenges for everyone involved. 

In this episode I talk to Andrew Rissik, the Group International Director of Sable International, a well know company that has a slogan of “internationalize yourself, your wealth and your business.”

Andrew speaks from own experience having moved to Portugal for part of the year while maintaining his roots in South Africa. 

He highlights common misconceptions, the importance of planning, tax implications, and the emotional aspects of relocating. 

There is no substitute for thorough research and professional advice when considering emigration. 

He touches on the significance of community, education opportunities abroad, and the impact of leaving loved ones behind.

It was a great discussion with someone who has obviously paid his own school fees and is prepared to share his experience with the listeners.

Andrew Rissik: "Engage with a trusted partner."

Chapters

02:31 Andrew Rissik’s background and journey

04:52 Understanding the decision to Emigrate

09:36 The Importance of Planning and Research

11:57 Community and Support in New Environments

18:23 Navigating Tax Implications of Emigration

25:17 Navigating Nationality and Immigration Claims

27:35 Visa and Immigration Services Post-Brexit

29:55 Investment Migration and Financial Planning

32:15 Documentation Challenges and Government Backlogs

34:34 Housing and Accommodation Considerations

39:13 Understanding Costs of Living Abroad

46:02 Cultural Adaptation and Emotional Challenges

51:06 Family Dynamics and Caregiving in Emigration

48:23 Seeking Professional Guidance for Emigration

If you want to know more about the services of Sable International, their website is www.sableinternational.com. All the services and contact details are available on the website.

Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

In this episode I chat to Desmond Denton an award-winning filmmaker who lives in Washington DC in the United States. 

We discuss his and his family’s journey from Stellenbosch to the United States.

We also explore the challenges and triumphs of immigration and he shares insights on his filmmaking career, the emotional impact of leaving home and the importance of preserving cultural identity.

Desmond’s film The Journey Home explores the lives of families and especially children who left South Africa for the United States. 

It is clear from the film and our discussion that children often experience a different emotional impact during immigration.

We discuss the complexities of relocation, the significance of storytelling, and the lessons learned along the way.

I found the discussion truly motivational and I really enjoyed Desmond’s maturity, hi faith and his amazing love for the arts.

Desmond Denton: "You have to capture the present moment."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Desmond Denton and His Work

03:12 Desmond's Journey in Filmmaking

07:16 The Decision to Immigrate to the US

13:45 Living Out Faith in Filmmaking

16:27 The Journey Home: A Film on Immigration

22:14 Reflections on Leaving South Africa

23:59 Navigating Cultural Loss and Family Dynamics

27:13 The Journey of Doubt and Adaptation

30:48 The Emotional Toll of Immigration

34:11 Cultural Identity and Connection Abroad

37:07 Reflections on Life Choices and Opportunities

If you want to know more about Desmond and his filmmaking , his website is https://www.desmonddenton.com.

 Festive Season Far From Home

To all South Africans spending this festive season far from the place that shaped you… we see you.

The longing hits a little harder this time of year—boerewors fires, familiar voices, the smell of rain on red earth.

Journey Home shares the real and raw experiences of families who took the brave leap to start over in the US. But the truest storytellers? Their children.

If you’re missing home, or know someone preparing for the journey… this film is a companion.

The Journey Home film is available on Amazon Prime in some locations and also on this link https://tubitv.com/movies/100028024/the-journey-home

or

https://www.roku.com/en-gb/whats-on/movies/the-journey-home?id=ff017c49a376ffde41d679b87bad2533

or

https://tv.apple.com/gb/movie/the-journey-home/umc.cmc.4s5q6gynzbp3ztjqnfdm0onok

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n this episode, I speak to Lumond Kritzinger, founder of HowzitExpats.com, about his emigration journey from South Africa to Ireland. 

We discuss the challenges and planning involved in emigration, the importance of community, and the role of HowzitExpats in supporting South Africans abroad. 

Lumondt shares insights on financial planning, cultural integration, and the significance of well-being for expats.

He emphasises the need to plan properly in order to make emigration successful.

He shares details for his well-being survey that is underway for South African expats.

Lumondt Kritzinger: “If you fail to plan, you plan to fail”

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Welcome

00:03 Lumondt’s Immigration Journey

00:09 Challenges and Planning in Immigration

00:15 Community and Cultural Integration

00:21 Financial Planning for Expats

00:27 The Role of HowzitExpats

00:33 Well-being and Family Dynamics

00:39 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

If you want to know more about Lumondt and the well-being survey, his website is https://www.howzitexpats.com.

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In this episode, I speak to Janet Edwards, author of The Overseas Caregiver's Guid. 

We discuss the challenges and emotional weight of emigrating from South Africa to Australia. 

We discuss the importance of planning for the future, including legal documents like power of attorney and wills, and the emotional toll of caring for parents from afar. 

Janet shares her experiences managing her parents' care and finances, as well as practical advice for expats on how to stay connected with family back home. 

The conversation emphasises the need for organisation, communication, and support networks for those navigating the complexities of emigration and caregiving.

She offers valuable advice for people with parents in South Africa and the importance of stayingg connected.

Janet Edwards: “Just “do one thing”

Chapters

00:00 Navigating Immigration and Family Separation

02:44 The Emotional Weight of emigration

05:44 The Overseas Caregiver's Guide: A Roadmap

08:38 Planning for the Future: Power of Attorney and Wills

11:49 Caring for Parents from Afar

14:27 Financial Management and Medical Aid

17:35 Dealing with Scams and Financial Safety

20:29 Balancing Emotions and Practicalities in Caregiving

23:24 Advice for Expats: Staying Connected

26:10 Reflecting on the emigration Journey

29:06 Final Thoughts and Resources

Janet’s contact details are as follows:

Website:     https://www.theoverseascaregiver.com/overseascaregiver

Sales Page https://www.theoverseascaregiver.com/overseascaregiverorderform   

Fb Group   The Overseas Caregiver

Instagram   the_overseas_caregiver

email          janet@theoverseascaregiver.com

Book : AU$27 with a 44% discount voucher running until Friday, 12 December 2025 at 23h00 (Brisbane time)

Voucher Code:  FLAMINGO

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Imagine learning Afrikaans at a university in America.

in this conversation I talk to Professor Jacques Duplessis who teaches Afrikaans at the University of Wisconsin in Milwaukee. 

He shares shares his journey from South Africa to the United States, discussing his passion for teaching Afrikaans and the cultural connections he maintains. 

He also talks about his love for poetry and the resources that he has built to promote the teaching of Afrikaans all over the world.

He emphasizes the importance of humor, music, and family ties in navigating life abroad, while also reflecting on identity and the challenges faced by immigrants. 

Jacques offers valuable advice for young South Africans considering their future, highlighting the richness of their cultural heritage and the importance of staying connected to their roots.

I really enjoyed Jacques’ passion for Afrikaans and his people while building a life in the United States.

Jacques Du Plessis:"Afrikaans is a WYSIWYG language."

Chapters

00:00 Navigating Immigration and Personal Journeys

03:13 Cultural Connections and Language Teaching

05:50 Innovations in Language Education

09:12 The Global Interest in Afrikaans

11:56 Challenges of Less Commonly Taught Languages

15:01 Language Proficiency and Cultural Nuances

17:57 Understanding South African Humor

20:53 Cultural Differences in Friendships

23:46 The Depth of South African Connections

29:31 The Richness of Afrikaans Language

36:29 Cultural Identity and Language

44:57 The Role of Music in Language Learning

52:55 Reflections on Life Choices and Identity

Find out more about Jacques’ work on www.afrikaans.us and his personal website www.jacquesduplessis.com.

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In this episode I speak with Nic Latouf, a South African entrepreneur and co-founder of the Lekker Network. 

We discuss Nic's journey from Pretoria Boys High to building a global network for South Africans, emphasising the importance of community, connection, and the potential of the South African diaspora. 

We explore the challenges and opportunities faced by South Africans abroad, the significance of networking, and the positive impact of the Lekker Network in fostering collaboration and support among its members. 

Nic shares insights on maintaining a positive mindset, the emotional toll of immigration, and the upcoming book 'Winning the Away Game,' which highlights the successes of South Africans worldwide.

He also discusses the need top maintain positivity and wellness for South Africans abroad.

Nic Latouf: “Focus is the key to success."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Relocated South African Podcast

01:10 Nic Latouf: Background and Early Ventures

03:01 The Birth of the Lekker Network

08:42 Building a Global Community of South Africans

12:59 The Power of the South African Diaspora

16:14 Connecting Opportunities: Real Stories of Impact

18:54 Future Plans and the Impact of the Lekker Network

30:37 Maintaining Independence and Future Investments

33:12 The Power of Positivity in the Diaspora

36:22 Navigating Family Dynamics and Immigration Challenges

42:25 Inclusivity in Business Networks

46:56 Celebrating South African Success Stories

53:03 Advice for Young Entrepreneurs

56:59 Balancing Work and Family Life

Nic is active on Linkedin @niclatouf. Visit the Lekker network at www.the lekkernetwork.com.

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In this episode of the Relocated South African podcast, host I speak  with Kirsty Jones, founder of Federated Advisory in Dubai. 

Kirsty shares her journey from South Africa to Dubai, discussing the safety, stability, and opportunities the UAE offers for expats. 

She highlights the challenges of starting a business in a new country, the importance of transparency in advisory services, and the need for community among South Africans abroad. 

She also believes that the UAE offers a transparent government and very low taxes combined with absolute physical safety.

Kirsty also addresses the cultural dynamics of being a woman in business, the cost of living in Dubai, and the unique challenges of communication in the UAE. 

Maintaining family connections is critical for emotional well-being.

The conversation concludes with valuable advice for those considering relocation to the UAE.

Kirsty Jones: “Dubai is very fitness focused."

"I miss South African chips so much!"

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Relocated South African Show

01:04 Kirsty Jones: Journey from South Africa to Dubai

02:13 Why Choose the UAE? Safety and Stability

03:16 Starting a Business in Dubai: Kirsty's Experience

05:14 The Need for Transparency in Advisory Services

06:56 Navigating Business Setup in the UAE

08:14 Common Business Ventures for South Africans

09:47 Supporting South Africans in Job Searches

11:07 Overcoming Red Tape in the UAE

12:19 Cultural Dynamics: Women in Business

15:46 Challenges of Isolation in a New Country

17:12 Building Community Among Expats

18:51 The Temporary Nature of Life in Dubai

19:07 Connecting People and Networking

20:02 Finding Accommodation in Dubai

20:30 Coping with the UAE's Climate

24:41 Cost of Living: Balancing Salaries and Expenses

28:30 Understanding Alcohol Regulations in the UAE

29:49 Communication Challenges: WhatsApp and VPNs

33:04 Advice for Future Expats

34:34 Final Thoughts on Relocating to the UAE

Contact Kirsty at www.federatedadvisory.com

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A few thoughts on the complexities of celebrating Christmas as an expatriate from South Africa. 

I share personal experiences of joy and sadness during the holiday season, with emphasis the emotional toll of immigration on family connections. 

I talk about the challenges of maintaining relationships with children and grandchildren who live far away, and the bittersweet nature of long-distance family gatherings. 

Treasure time with loved ones and to reach out to others who may be experiencing similar feelings of separation and loss.

Jan Hugo: “I know your pain. I know how you feel."

Chapters

00:00 Christmas Reflections: A Time of Joy and Sadness

06:04 The Impact of Immigration on Family Connections

08:45 Sharing the Journey: Connecting with Others in Similar Situations

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In this episode, I speak with Justinus Adriaanse, a South African entrepreneur now based in Canada. 

We discuss Justinus' journey from Pretoria to Canada, the challenges and triumphs of relocating.

He shares how skiing became a passion and a way to connect with his new life in Canada.

He emphasises the importance of family support during the immigration process. 

Justinus shares insights on maintaining ties to South Africa and the impact of his coding academy, We Think Code which provides opportunities for preserving candidates to learn coding skills.We Think Code has transformed the lives of many underprivileged youth in South Africa

We also discuss his passion for rugby and the role it has in connecting South Africans abroad. 

He emphasises the need for action and consistency in making a difference, whether in business or charitable endeavours.

Justinus Adriaanse: “Being on the same page is key." "You have to push your comfort zone."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Journey of Relocation

02:54 Justinus' Early Life and Move to Canada

06:35 The Skiing Adventure and Its Impact

10:52 The Importance of Family Support in Immigration

13:07 Children's Adaptation and Cultural Identity

17:36 Feeling More South African Abroad

19:48 Charitable Work and Impact of We Think Code

26:34 Government Support and Collaboration

28:45 Rugby Vision and Community Projects

31:12 The Journey to the Final: A Rugby Fan's Adventure

33:30 Building a Rugby Talent Pipeline in South Africa

36:44 The Importance of Opportunity in Sports

37:43 Challenges of Starting Over in a New Country

40:31 Networking: The Key to Entrepreneurial Success

42:42 Changing Perceptions: South Africans Abroad

50:28 Lessons Learned: Reflections on Immigration

53:49 Advice for Young South Africans: Exploring Opportunities

Justinus and Flip van Der Merwe´s podcast Winning the away Game is available on all podcast platforms and Youtube :https://www.youtube.com/@WinningtheAwayGamePodcast

Contact Justinus on Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/justinusadriaanse

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In this episode, I speak  with Wendy Carlsson, a South African who relocated to Sweden. 

Wendy shares her journey from growing up in a coloured community in Cape Town to adapting to life in Sweden.

She shares her experiences with cultural differences, starting a business, and the challenges of being away from her family. 

She reflects on the beauty of her new life while also expressing the emotional complexities of leaving her homeland. 

Wendy offers insights into the cost of living in Sweden, the importance of community, and advice for young South Africans considering emigration.

She makes a point to travel back home regularly to see her family.

Wendy Carlsson: "Life in Sweden has been wonderful, perfect growth for me in that in a world where you don't have to worry about safety," 

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Journey

02:49 Wendy's Background and Early Life

11:51 Life in Sweden: A New Beginning

13:06 Starting a Business in Sweden

15:05 Adapting to Swedish Winters

17:11 Cultural Differences and Food

20:01 Reflections on South Africa

23:26 Cost of Living and Community

28:31 Advice for Young South Africans

33:15 Conclusion and Future Aspirations

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In this episode I speak to Marlene Prentice the owner of Migration Network Australia.

She shares the inspiring journey of a family determined to emigrate to Australia despite facing numerous challenges. 

Their journey motivated her to leave her accounting career to become an immigration agent to help others.

One of the beautiful stories she shares is about a young mother who, lacking qualifications and work experience, embarked on a seven-year journey to secure a visa for her family. Through perseverance and dedication, she successfully navigated the visa process, ultimately achieving her dream of settling in Australia with her family.

She offers valuable advice for people who want to immigrate to Australia.

Marlene prentice: “ I don’t like taking people’s money knowing that they are not going to get a visa…”

00:00 Introduction and Welcome 

00:03 Marlene's Journey to Australia 

00:09 Cultural Differences and Challenges 

00:15 Establishing Migration Network Australia 

00:21 Advice for Future Immigrants 

00:27 Current Immigration Landscape in Australia 

00:33 Conclusion and Contact Information

Marlene’s contact details are as follows: Website https://www.migrationnetworkaustralia.com

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