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Consulting for doctors: Key Mindset Shifts you need to Thrive
Episode 74
Sunday, September 1, 2024 • Duration 42:59
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In this episode I interview Dr. Lisi Hu who is a Manager at CF and an Ex-NHS surgeon with extensive NHS experience across various specialties and systems. She has led numerous projects aimed at enhancing patient safety, efficiency, and outcomes in healthcare.
In this episode we cover:
- What Lisi did to get her first consulting job with only one job application
- The key mindset shifts she had to make before and after getting her consulting job
- The biggest misconceptions doctors have in the move to consulting and how to tackle them
- How to get into consulting without getting a job (or leaving yours fully) as a doctor"
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ABOUT THE HOST
Dr Abeyna Bubbers-Jones is a practising medical doctor and Founder of Medic Footprints: the global platform connecting doctors with diverse career opportunities beyond conventional medicine.
Her mission is to dramatically elevate health outcomes in the world by connecting 1 million doctors with diverse careers by 2030.
Continually exploring her own path off the medical treadmill, she has developed a wealth of expertise in specialist recruitment connecting industry & health tech companies with talented doctors, whilst supporting & coaching doctors in their own career development and wellbeing.
She is an award-winning entrepreneur, Consultant Occupational Health Physician, BBC Expert Voice, Public Speaker, Musician and not-so-good boulderer!
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ADHD, Autism & Industry Career Diversity: Is it Possible?
Episode 73
Sunday, August 25, 2024 • Duration 44:45
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In this episode I interview Dr. Junaid Hussain, a practising clinician who engages in consultancy and advisory work for companies in the digital health and health innovation domain. Founder of Man Confidence, a website that digitises mens mental health psychological support.
In this episode we cover:
- Neurodiverse symptoms Junaid experienced in his early medical career and how he self-managed this pre diagnosis
- How his experience working in Saudi opened up entrepreneurial opportunities
- Why he focuses on LinkedIn and how taking an honest & frank approach landed him high value digital health clients
- Top tips for doctors developing diverse industry careers - with or without a neurodiverse background
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The REAL Journey to Medical Leadership as a Woman of Colour - with Dr. Maryann Ferreux
Episode 64
Sunday, June 16, 2024 • Duration 38:20
In this episode I interview Dr. Maryann Ferreux who is a Medical Director at Health Innovation Kent, Surrey and Sussex and a Non-Executive Director at NHS Kent and Medway Partnership Trust. She is an experienced medical leader and executive motivated by a desire to lead transformational change across the health system to reduce health inequalities and ensure equity and inclusion for everyone.
In this episode we cover:
- How medical leadership ended up on the agenda during a working trip to Australia
- How she managed a team of over 600 Clinicians as the only female Medical Director of colour
- The core skills ALL doctors need to learn to grow into leaders
- The biggest challenge doctors face in getting to leadership roles and influencing at scale and ways to overcome this
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Financial Stability through Business: 4 Things Doctors Overlook
Season 1 · Episode 63
Sunday, March 24, 2024 • Duration 20:51
In this episode I cover:
- 4 Reasons why starting your own business can provide a route to financial stability. These include providing another form of income with a higher earning potential and no glass ceiling, getting financially literate, creating assets and building equity, developing skills that industry decision makers want
- How doctors are leveraging this now
- How you can get started today - especially if you don't know where to start
Esh Tatla, Director and Podcast Host at Health Beyond Tomorrow, is on a mission to inspire the next generation of clinicians to think beyond boundaries. He is Abeyna’s guest on this episode which discusses podcasting and healthcare innovation.
In this episode, Abeyna and Esh cover:
🏗️ How Esh developed his podcast from scratch after expanding his interest beyond a local medtech society
🪂 The why behind making a greater impact as a medical student including navigating hierarchies
🎙️ The technical aspects of podcasting platforms and how to make best use of them whilst getting started
📡 The benefits he gained from podcasting and how it’s helped his wider mission
Dr Abeyna Bubbers-Jones is a practising medical doctor and Founder of Medic Footprints: the global platform connecting doctors with diverse career opportunities beyond conventional medicine.
Her mission is to dramatically elevate health outcomes in the world by connecting 1 million doctors with diverse careers by 2030.
The Power of Perseverance in Career Change - with Dr. Yuki Nehikare from Astellas
Season 1 · Episode 58
Saturday, December 2, 2023 • Duration 34:39
How can one persevere in the pursuit of a non clinical career?
Join Dr. Abeyna Bubbers-Jones and Dr. Yuki Nehikhare on this episode where they explore how Yuki made the transition from being a clinician to the pharma industry, currently working at Big Pharma company Astellas.
This episode is tailored for healthcare professionals contemplating a career transition, the hosts address common fears and struggles, offering valuable insights on breaking through barriers and leveraging clinical experience to thrive in the pharma industry.
Dr. Nehikhare shares his insights about networking and creating lasting connections at industry events to the importance of showcasing problem-solving skills and adaptability in the pharma industry. Dr. Bubbers-Jones leads an eye-opening discussion on self-marketing, uncovering the secrets to unveiling your unique selling points and landing your dream role outside the clinical sphere.
Timestamp
00:00 Navigating career change from clinical to pharma.
04:38 Doctors underestimate long transition time to new careers.
08:45 Throwing away all your clinical knowledge and experience.
12:42 Overcoming barriers to transitioning into industry roles.
15:18 Understand, articulate, and promote your unique qualities.
19:38 Competing in a tough job market.
21:53 Self-reflection, seeking advice, and resource utilization.
27:00 Perseverance pays off
Quotes:
The Challenges of Transitioning from Medicine to Industry: "when you're going into the industry landscape, it's a completely different picture because you can be trying your best and you may continue to face the same blockers without really being clear on why that's happening, because the rules are quite different. Like, for example, in medicine, if you're like, if you pass this, then you'll get this. Whereas in industry it's like, well, you might or might not get it, depending you could be amazing and still not get that job."
C Suite Hopping - The Diary of an Interim CEO: COO
Season 1 · Episode 57
Sunday, November 26, 2023 • Duration 41:27
Going from medical school straight into business. Guy Gross shares with us on this episode his insights from his remarkable career journey, transitioning from Nottingham Medical School to leadership roles in global healthcare corporations. Gross discusses selling to the NHS, emphasizes the importance of integrated care systems, and delves into challenges in health tech investment for long-term prevention.
His experiences as the UK COO of Teladoc during the COVID-19 pandemic are explored, including the impact of the vaccine rollout on telemedicine companies. This episode also delves into Gross's personal path, highlighting his pivot from medical school to the business world and offering advice for doctors seeking success in business. Topics include identifying strengths, differences between CEO and COO roles, conflict resolution, corporate financial literacy, and bridging knowledge gaps when transitioning from medicine to business. The episode encourages listeners to disrupt their careers, broaden perspectives, and make a meaningful impact in healthcare and beyond.
Timestamp:
02:35 Doing business during and after medical school.
04:06 The changing landscape of a career in the NHS, working hours and burn out.
06:30 How do you find the time to develop your business experience?
08:46 Involved with Google, YouTube and Facebook through music.
11:08 Translating doctor skills to successful business skills.
13:03 Identifying one’s super powers.
16:18 Different phases of companies require different skills.
21:06 Having a basic understanding of financial literacy is crucial.
26:26 Why certain Health Tech companies fail and why others thrive?
31:30 Understand the currencies of healthcare.
32:36 How to identify the best Health Tech companies to work with.
Quotes:
"Control Over Career Choices in Medicine: And I thought, I just want to have control over my career and control over knowing where I want to be in 5-10 years time. And I felt that that wasn't happening in the NHS."
— Guy Gross
"Translating Medical Skills to Business: So one of the amazing things that doctors do that other people don't is look at things through a lens of logic. You've got your surgical sieve. You ask questions like, is it before, during or after an organ where you've got a problem? Business is no different. When I consider problems in business, I look at things, is it presales? Is it the problem with landing the sale? Or is it the after sales, for example? And it's a very logical application where we are able to rapidly put together frameworks, I would say more doctors than I know other people around how to solve problems, and that's a massive win."
— Guy Gross
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ABOUT THE HOST
Dr Abeyna Bubbers-Jones is a practising medical doctor and Founder of Medic Footprints: the global platform connecting doctors with diverse career opportunities beyond conventional medicine.
Her mission is to dramatically elevate health outcomes in the world by connecting 1 million doctors with diverse careers by 2030.
Continually exploring her own path off the medical treadmill, she has developed a wealth of expertise in specialist recruitment connecting industry & health tech companies with talented doctors, whilst supporting & coaching doctors in their own career development and wellbeing.
She is an award-winning entrepreneur, Consultant Occupational Health Physician, BBC Expert Voice, Public Speaker, Musician and not-so-good boulderer!
The Doctors in Industry Program helps doctors like you land high-value industry roles and £5k+ clients – fast.
✨ No retraining. No burnout. No more wasting time feeling invisible.
Dr Abeyna Bubbers-Jones is a practising medical doctor and Founder of Medic Footprints: the global platform connecting doctors with diverse career opportunities beyond conventional medicine.
Her mission is to dramatically elevate health outcomes in the world by connecting 1 million doctors with diverse careers by 2030.
Continually exploring her own path off the medical treadmill, she has developed a wealth of expertise in specialist recruitment connecting industry & health tech companies with talented doctors, whilst supporting & coaching doctors in their own career development and wellbeing.
She is an award-winning entrepreneur, Consultant Occupational Health Physician, BBC Expert Voice, Public Speaker, Musician and not-so-good boulderer!
Dr Abeyna Bubbers-Jones is a practising medical doctor and Founder of Medic Footprints: the global platform connecting doctors with diverse career opportunities beyond conventional medicine.
Her mission is to dramatically elevate health outcomes in the world by connecting 1 million doctors with diverse careers by 2030.
Continually exploring her own path off the medical treadmill, she has developed a wealth of expertise in specialist recruitment connecting industry & health tech companies with talented doctors, whilst supporting & coaching doctors in their own career development and wellbeing.
She is an award-winning entrepreneur, Consultant Occupational Health Physician, BBC Expert Voice, Public Speaker, Musician and not-so-good boulderer!
ABOUT THE HOST
Dr Abeyna Bubbers-Jones is a practising medical doctor and Founder of Medic Footprints: the global platform connecting doctors with diverse career opportunities beyond conventional medicine.
Her mission is to dramatically elevate health outcomes in the world by connecting 1 million doctors with diverse careers by 2030.
Continually exploring her own path off the medical treadmill, she has developed a wealth of expertise in specialist recruitment connecting industry & health tech companies with talented doctors, whilst supporting & coaching doctors in their own career development and wellbeing.
She is an award-winning entrepreneur, Consultant Occupational Health Physician, BBC Expert Voice, Public Speaker, Musician and not-so-good boulderer!
Dr Abeyna Bubbers-Jones is a practising medical doctor and Founder of Medic Footprints: the global platform connecting doctors with diverse career opportunities beyond conventional medicine.
Her mission is to dramatically elevate health outcomes in the world by connecting 1 million doctors with diverse careers by 2030.
Continually exploring her own path off the medical treadmill, she has developed a wealth of expertise in specialist recruitment connecting industry & health tech companies with talented doctors, whilst supporting & coaching doctors in their own career development and wellbeing.
She is an award-winning entrepreneur, Consultant Occupational Health Physician, BBC Expert Voice, Public Speaker, Musician and not-so-good boulderer!
Dr Abeyna Bubbers-Jones is a practising medical doctor and Founder of Medic Footprints: the global platform connecting doctors with diverse career opportunities beyond conventional medicine.
Her mission is to dramatically elevate health outcomes in the world by connecting 1 million doctors with diverse careers by 2030.
Continually exploring her own path off the medical treadmill, she has developed a wealth of expertise in specialist recruitment connecting industry & health tech companies with talented doctors, whilst supporting & coaching doctors in their own career development and wellbeing.
She is an award-winning entrepreneur, Consultant Occupational Health Physician, BBC Expert Voice, Public Speaker, Musician and not-so-good boulderer!
Continually exploring her own path off the medical treadmill, she has developed a wealth of expertise in specialist recruitment connecting industry & health tech companies with talented doctors, whilst supporting & coaching doctors in their own career development and wellbeing.
She is an award-winning entrepreneur, Consultant Occupational Health Physician, BBC Expert Voice, Public Speaker, Musician and not-so-good boulderer!
— Dr. Yuki Nehikhare
Challenges in Career Transition for Doctors: "I think for me it was the fact that I'd invested what seemed to, at the time seemed to be at the time, a lot of my life, getting into medicine, training, et cetera, et cetera, and only to throw it all away for another career."
— Dr. Yuki Nehikhare
Modern Job Market Demands: "I think there is more of an emphasis on how do you problem solve, how do you work in a crisis moment, how do you work collaboratively across teams with internal and external stakeholders, how much commercial acumen do you have at this stage?"
— Dr. Yuki Nehikhare
The Importance of Self-Promotion for Physicians: "And, yeah, it's a skill that not many doctors organically have when it comes to themselves, just because of the culture that we say grow up in, in medicine, particularly in the UK, I should say it's a little bit different elsewhere. But, yeah, it is an essential skill that you definitely need to learn to survive in industry."
— Dr. Yuki Nehikhare
Transitioning from Academia to Industry: "It's similar in the sense that moving to industry, even though there aren't really any kind of written rules, there are kind of rules, right? It's a lot more nuanced. There's a different culture and again, it's about understanding what the culture is, particularly for the sector that you're going to or even the company that you're going into or that you're really committed to."
— Dr. Yuki Nehikhare
The Value of Networking at In-Person Events: "But yeah, the benefits of attending events in person strongly outweighs, particularly now when we're kind of we've all got digital fatigue. Post COVID strongly outweighs the online in the sense that you get to meet people in person, you get the chemistry, the language you mentioned, which is a really important part of that as well, especially if you're new to the sector and it can open up so many opportunities."
Dr Abeyna Bubbers-Jones is a practising medical doctor and Founder of Medic Footprints: the global platform connecting doctors with diverse career opportunities beyond conventional medicine.
Her mission is to dramatically elevate health outcomes in the world by connecting 1 million doctors with diverse careers by 2030.
Continually exploring her own path off the medical treadmill, she has developed a wealth of expertise in specialist recruitment connecting industry & health tech companies with talented doctors, whilst supporting & coaching doctors in their own career development and wellbeing.
She is an award-winning entrepreneur, Consultant Occupational Health Physician, BBC Expert Voice, Public Speaker, Musician and not-so-good boulderer!
"Personal Growth and Self-Recognition: But when it comes to growing yourself, it's very much about identifying what are your own superpowers. And when I look at that for myself, it's taken me a very long time, probably 15-20 years, to identify in myself what makes me unique as a person. I would say the ability to walk into a room full of smoke and just point directly to the fire."
— Guy Gross
"Understanding Corporate Lifecycle: I've also realized there's different phases of companies, and this is something you don't realize unless you've been through a lot of this. There is the founder part of a journey, which is the ability to overcome inertia with a group of people who have the oomph behind them to stick it out and just get it done by any means necessary. Then you have the growth phase where once you've proved that you've got a thing that works, you need to scale it. A totally different set of skills around identifying, optimizing and managing things as they grow. And then once you're big, you just want someone who's a safe pair of hands to run that. And so you have to identify where you fit in the lifecycle of companies as well, with your temperament and with your skill set."
— Guy Gross
"Understanding Health Tech Failure: The reason why a lot of health tech fails is they completely fail to understand that. If you're talking about a narrative of keeping people well for another ten years and preventing long term disease, the challenge with that is if I'm an investor in that as a health system, then I'm not going to see my money back for ten years. But if I can help you now identify people who are continuously coming back to hospital and stop those people coming back, then that's in year savings."
— Guy Gross
Dr Abeyna Bubbers-Jones is a practising medical doctor and Founder of Medic Footprints: the global platform connecting doctors with diverse career opportunities beyond conventional medicine.
Her mission is to dramatically elevate health outcomes in the world by connecting 1 million doctors with diverse careers by 2030.
Continually exploring her own path off the medical treadmill, she has developed a wealth of expertise in specialist recruitment connecting industry & health tech companies with talented doctors, whilst supporting & coaching doctors in their own career development and wellbeing.
She is an award-winning entrepreneur, Consultant Occupational Health Physician, BBC Expert Voice, Public Speaker, Musician and not-so-good boulderer!