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In this final episode of our rebuttal, we circle back to Part 1 in our series, focusing on how Think Twice doesn't follow journalism fairness standards and rigorously challenge their presumption of guilt.

You'll hear examples of applying a "consider the opposite" approach to the Michael Jackson allegations, by asking what else has to be true if he were innocent. We invite  hosts Leon Neyfakh and Jay Smooth to engage with innocence advocates. We also put forward an alternative response to the driving question behind Think Twice:  Why are we still listening to Michael Jackson?

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In this episode, we present a few more examples of how the narrative in Think Twice is one-sided and slanted.  There's a  wider context and missing information in their stories that's important to consider, which calls into question their own theories and conclusions.

We take a look at how Think Twice presents Michael Jackson’s relationship with his father and what they’ve left out of the background regarding Jackson’s Oxford speech. And because Think Twice  uses Jackson’s words and actions in two short films to support their guilty narrative, you'll  hear alternative interpretations based on information from his own background. And finally, we examine how Think Twice  does or doesn’t reconcile the many other relationships Jackson had with kids who’ve consistently maintained his innocence.

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In part 2 of our rebuttal, you'll hear some examples of bias, lack of context and misleading information in Think Twice that undermines their presumption of guilt. The focus of this episode is examining how Think Twice  handles the evidence in the first two sex abuse cases against Michael Jackson.

What sort of fact checking process have they used to check the claims of the Chandler and Arvizo allegations? What sources are they citing?  What sources are they leaving out? Who do they choose or not choose to interview?

Looking at what their reference pages leave out and looking at the people they selected to interview reveals the motive in Think Twice towards a predetermined narrative, versus a motive to finding the truth.  We argue that because of what they left out, Think Twice  can't cover these allegations with any degree of fairness.

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Think Twice is an Audible podcast released in April 2023 about the legacy of Michael Jackson. Over its 10-episode series, Think Twice focuses on the theme of why we the public  are still listening to Michael Jackson, despite the allegations against him.

The Think Twice narrative is that there must be something unique about Jackson in his ability to defy cancellation, and the podcast aims to help us understand why he’s different from other celebrities who have been cancelled after being accused of sex abuse.

In our own 4-part rebuttal, we focus on how Think Twice  doesn’t measure up to journalistic standards in its presumption of guilt, without fairly presenting the evidence.

In this first part of our rebuttal, we make the argument that Think Twice is a case study in confirmation bias. In parts 2 and 3, we'll cover specific examples of bias and misinformation in the podcast, and the final episode looks at alternative narratives and wraps up why you should be cautious before accepting the arguments of Think Twice. 

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In this bonus episode of the podcast, we critique the use of  Michael Jackson  in The New York Times Presents documentary series entitled, "Sin Eater." "Sin Eater" is a 2-part documentary about the shady legacy of Anthony Pellicano, a Hollywood private investigator most active in the 1990s. The documentary promotion page says about Pellicano: "Hollywood’s dirtiest private investigator didn’t operate within the law to hide the sins of the rich and powerful."  However, we argue in this episode that it is unfair and unfounded to include Pellicano's work on the 1993 Jackson scandal for this documentary.  

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Content Advisory: This episode includes discussion of sex abuse allegations involving a minor. 

Up to this point in the podcast, we’ve been focusing on each sex abuse case separately, in order to address their problems point by point. But by compiling and comparing the evidence in all four cases, there are telling patterns that emerge among Jackson’s accusers. patterns that compound the individual weaknesses of their claims, and build an even stronger case for Jackson’s innocence. You’re going to hear about research into child predator behavior in this episode and how child molesters target their victims. We'll take this research on grooming and abuse and apply it to each of the sex abuse cases.

The quote in the title of this episode, "It's Time for Me to Get Mine," comes from Wade Robson's journal notes that he made during the time he was filing his lawsuit against Michael Jackson's companies. When asked in his deposition what he meant when he wrote this line, he said he didn't know. But we found the quote a fitting title as we summarize all the cases in the final episode in Season 1.  From the evidence we've presented in all four cases, these allegations are not just about money . There was a consistent pattern of entitlement. These four accusers and their families expected more opportunities and attention from Jackson, and we make the case that when Jackson didn't meet these expectations, it fueled their resentment and justification to make false claims.

Season 2 is planned for release in Fall 2023.


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Content Advisory: This episode includes discussion of sex abuse allegations involving a minor. 

How does the science of lie detection and bias factor into the Michael Jackson sex abuse allegations?  With an emphasis on the deceit revealed in the Leaving Neverland documentary, this episode focuses on the following questions: What does science tell us about our ability to  spot a liar? What steps do deception experts recommend we take when trying to judge if a story is true? And finally, why did so many people get taken in  by this film?

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Content Advisory: This episode includes discussion of sex abuse allegations involving a minor. 

The focus of the third and final episode on Leaving Neverland is how filmmaker Dan Reed continues the pattern of deceit in his promotional interviews. Through his responses, Reed reveals that he is not interested in the accuracy of his film, only the impact of this film. The episode concludes by taking a measure of how Leaving Neverland matches up with accepted standards for documentary filmmaking.

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Content Advisory: This episode includes discussion of sex abuse allegations involving a minor.

One of the most talked about aspects of Leaving Neverland is the very graphic descriptions of sex abuse by both Robson and Safechuck.  It was a shock to hear these accusers spell out the specific sex acts at length on screen. These vivid and compelling details are what led to many viewers believing the allegations were true. In this episode, you'll hear 3 arguments for why Robson and Safechuck's unusually graphic accounts of sex abuse should not be taken as evidence for truthfulness.

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Content Advisory: There is discussion of sex abuse allegations involving minors in this episode. This particular episode has graphic details described by the accusers themselves.

Leaving Neverland Part 2 picks up in 1992, when Robson and Safechuck claim Jackson dropped them for Macaulay Culkin and Brett Barnes. The Robsons express resentment that Jackson didn't take Wade on the Dangerous Tour, and are upset that he took Barnes. You'll hear about the accusers' support of Jackson during the Chandler scandal of 1993, and their improbable claims of being intimidated by Jackson and his lawyers to testify in 2005. The film and this episode conclude with the Robsons and Safechucks placing the blame for all of their troubles on Michael Jackson. 

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Content Advisory: This episode includes discussion of sex abuse allegations involving a minor. 

In this first part of the series on Leaving Neverland, you'll follow the story as it's presented in the documentary, starting with Safechuck and Robson first meeting Jackson in 1987, and continuing through 1992 when they say Jackson was losing interest in them for other boys. Both accusers present narratives in the documentary that contradict their lawsuits, which were ongoing even at the time of filming for Leaving Neverland. There are many credibility issues that are highlighted in this episode, along with deceptive moves by filmmaker Dan Reed, which he appears to employ in order to create a more powerful narrative of grooming. 

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Content Advisory: There is discussion of sex abuse allegations involving minors in this episode.

James Safechuck is the fourth and final accuser of Michael Jackson. He first claimed abuse in 2013 when he was in his 30s, and then filed a lawsuit against Jackson. The purpose of this episode is to present  Safechuck's claims of abuse from his lawsuit and to show how his legal moves are carefully calculated to result in the maximum financial compensation. Through the statements that Safechuck makes in his lawsuit, it's evident that he is willing to repeatedly make misleading and false statements in order to pursue monetary compensation from Michael Jackson’s companies. 

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Content Advisory: There is discussion of sex abuse allegations involving minors in this episode.

In this second and final episode on the Robson Allegations, the focus is on Wade Robson's legal maneuvering regarding his lawsuit against Michael Jackson's companies.  You’ll hear about the witnesses he uses to support his claims, how the legal aspects of his claims reveal his deceit, and you’ll see how Robson treats his alleged fellow victims in his lawsuit.

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Content Advisory: There is discussion of sex abuse allegations involving minors in this episode.

This episode focuses on Wade Robson's narrative of abuse as presented in his lawsuit. Robson's account includes how he met Jackson in Australia, and moved to the states 4 years later to advance his career. The contradictions, falsehoods, and improbable scenarios of his account are highlighted. 

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Content Advisory: There is discussion of sex abuse allegations involving minors in this episode.

This final episode in the Arvizo series focuses on the abuse of power by the district attorney and the lack of media accountability in the Michael Jackson criminal trial.  The show centers around the following questions: 
 1. How did this case ever get to court?  
 2. Why doesn't the public understand the evidence that these are fraudulent claims?

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Content Advisory: There is discussion of sex abuse allegations involving minors in this episode.

In this episode, you'll hear testimony from the defense witnesses, including celebrity witnesses MacCauley Culkin, Jay Leno, and Chris Tucker. Many of these witnesses testify to being victims of the Arvizos' scamming. The picture they paint is not just of the mother doing the scamming, but the whole family takes part. The witnesses all describe entitled, confident, and destructive behavior by Gavin and his brother, and Gavin comes across as not afraid to stand up to anyone. The defense also brings forward 3 of Jackson's alleged victims, according to the prosecution, who all testify adamantly that Jackson never touched them.

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Content Advisory: There is discussion of sex abuse allegations involving minors in this episode.

In this episode, you'll hear from the remaining prosecution witnesses. The state's case focuses on the following:
*Evidence that this family was held against their will and that Jackson knew about it
*Evidence that Jackson had employees and handlers protecting him
*Evidence of molestation or suspicious behavior by Jackson around Gavin Arvizo or any other child
*Evidence of Jackson giving Gavin or any other child alcohol

You'll hear the prosecution's arguments against Michael Jackson, and how the cross examination testimony either neutralizes or undermines these arguments. There are about 80 more witnesses, including  Neverland employees, police detectives, many expert witnesses, Jackson's ex-wife, Martin Bashir, and prior bad acts witnesses regarding the Chandler Allegations from 1993. Celebrity witnesses include George Lopez and Jamie Masada.

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Content Advisory: There is discussion of sex abuse allegations involving minors in this episode.

The Michael Jackson criminal trial begins in February 2005, with the Santa Maria courthouse overwhelmed by the massive media presence covering the proceedings. The lawyers on both sides present their opening statements, and then the prosecution starts calling their approximately 87 witnesses . The focus of Part 2 is coverage of the Arvizo family testimony, highlighting the cross examinations that discredit their accounts. You'll hear from the accuser, Gavin Arvizo;  his brother, Star; his sister, Davellin; and his mother Janet. 

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Content Advisory: There is discussion of sex abuse allegations involving minors in this episode.

The focus of this first episode in the Arvizo series is to present the background of the case and the lead up to the trial. The Arvizo family is introduced and how they got to know Michael Jackson beginning in 2000. The case background includes details about the family's history of grift, and how the mother uses her kids in her money schemes. You'll hear how the Martin Bashir documentary about Michael Jackson sets off a media frenzy that leads directly to allegations of abuse. The episode concludes as Jackson's criminal trial begins in February 2005.

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Content Advisory: There is discussion of sex abuse allegations involving minors in this episode.

In this final episode of the Chandler Allegations series, the cumulative evidence from the past 4 episodes is combined and sorted to make the case that the evidence supports Michael Jackson's innocence in this first sex abuse claim against him.

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Content Advisory: There is discussion of sex abuse allegations involving minors in this episode.

In this final chapter on the Chandler Allegations timeline, you'll hear about how District Attorney Tom Sneddon takes his criminal case against Michael Jackson to 2 grand juries. Despite  failing to get an indictment, Sneddon doesn't close the case against Jackson, and continues to make media appearances where he lets it be known that all he needs is a willing victim to come forward. Hard copy reporter Diane Dimond and Victor Gutierrez are involved in promoting the scandal that there is a secret tape of Jackson abusing a boy. Evan Chandler continues to try and litigate against his own family and Michael Jackson.

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Content Advisory: Sex abuse allegations involving minors are discussed in this episode.

This episode focuses on the psychiatrist interview of Jordan Chandler from October 1993.  As arranged by their lawyer,  Jordan and his parents flew to New York from Los Angeles to be interviewed by Dr. Richard Gardner, who was known at the time as an expert in false allegations of abuse. This step was likely taken to help the Chandlers prepare for questioning if their civil case went to trial. Highlights from the interview are detailed, including direct quotes from the exchanges between Jordan and Dr. Gardner.

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Content Advisory: This podcast includes discussion of sex abuse allegations involving minors. This episode in particular has more details about the specifics of the Chandler allegations.

In part 2 of the Chandler allegations, you’ll hear about the media frenzy after Jordan's allegation becomes public.  District Attorney Tom Sneddon and police are convinced of Michael Jackson's guilt before any real investigation begins, which biases their later interviews with children who knew Jackson. The Chandlers and their lawyers take thoughtfully planned steps to pressure Jackson into settling the civil lawsuit that's filed in September 1993. The episode concludes by covering the steps that lead to Jackson’s settlement with the Chandlers.

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Content Advisory: This episode includes discussion of sex abuse allegations involving minors. 

In this episode, you'll hear how the Chandlers begin and develop their friendship with Michael Jackson. The accounts presented in this case primarily come from the Chandlers themselves. The Chandler family first visits Neverland Ranch in February 1993, and Jordan will later say the abuse began a few months later. The controversy over the reliability of Jordan's confession is detailed and his father's questionable motives and behavior are explored. The episode concludes in August 1993 with the surprise raids on Neverland Ranch and Jackson’s L.A. apartment.

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Content Advisory: Sex abuse allegations involving minors are discussed in this episode.

In this first episode, Sheryl and June explain why they made this podcast. June relates her experience as a Michael Jackson fan, and shares some of the difficult situations that arose in the wake of the Leaving Neverland documentary release. Sheryl presents her motivations behind researching the claims of Leaving Neverland, and offers her top 7 takeaways from the research that convinced her of Jackson's innocence.

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In this trailer, you'll meet your hosts, Sheryl & June, and find out why this mother and daughter teamed up to create a  podcast about the Michael Jackson sex abuse allegations. You'll hear about June's fandom of Michael Jackson, and her mom's worry after these accusations came out publicly. They explain how the podcast is evidence-based, narrated with the help of voice actors, and all of the source material is fully accessible to listeners on their podcast website.
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