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Episode 13 - Monopoly...is Just a Punishment Cycle08 Sep 202501:14:47

Jason sits down with Youssef Sleiman, a game designer involved with the Bright Insight Support Network. They discuss how Youssef's interest in creating stories led to the development of his games, why he was drawn to helping people with neurodivergent needs through his games, and how he was able to develop games around theories of identity theories. Games covered are The Lighthouse at the Edge of the Universe and The Tea Dragon Society Card Game. This week's solo feature is Pencil Book Quest.

Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Content discussed during the show:

Bright Insight Support Network - https://www.brightinsight.support/

Dynamism Deck - https://www.brightinsight.support/dynamism-deck

Pencil Book Quest - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/grumpy-spider-games/pencil-book-quest?ref=discovery&term=pencil%20book%20quest&total_hits=1&category_id=34

Episode 12 - I Think I'm Everything Else25 Aug 202501:02:01

Jason sits down with Jay Bernardo, marketing manager for Bezier Games. They discuss Jay's time living in Tawain and how Cardboard East came to be, how his social media presence and networking landed him the job at Bezier Games, and the upcoming Kickstarter for The Game Makers. Board games covered are Robinson Crusoe: Adventures on the Cursed Island and Dieson Crusoe. This week's solo feature is Gloomhaven: Jaws of the Lion.

Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Content discussed during the show:

Cardboard East - https://www.youtube.com/c/cardboardeast

The Game Makers - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tedalspach/the-game-makers

Gloomhaven Secretariat - https://ghs.champonthis.de/

Episode 3 - There's a Board Game Out There for Literally Anyone21 Apr 202500:54:17

Jason sits down with Hannah Gallaher, 1/4 of the Felhaven team, to discuss her experiences performing in an actual play, board game mechanics, and her approach to board game design. They also talk about Galaxy Trucker and Weirdwood Manner. This week's solo feature is Kingdom Legacy: Feudal Kingdom.


Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

⁠https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/⁠


Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" ⁠https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠


Content discussed during the show:

Felhaven - ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6Q9j1WvM0uWE7LJsRM6d5j?si=2a0cfdc7f2b04e39

Folded Space - https://foldedspace.com/

Epiosde 2 - Sometimes I Do Just An Open-Faced Crap Sandwich07 Apr 202500:59:03

Summary - Jason sits down with Dylan Stoll, aka @vtboardgamer, to discuss board game content creation, Vermont beer, and board games The White Castle and Lost Ruins of Arnak. Jason also talks about the featured solo game, Friday.


Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/

Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/

Content discussed during the show:

Dylan Stoll - https://www.instagram.com/vtboardgamer/

Grant's Game Recs - https://www.instagram.com/grantsgamerecs/

Noble Knight Games - https://www.nobleknight.com/


Episode 1 - You're Probably Not Going to Float as a Local Game Shop23 Mar 202501:02:23

Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/

Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" https://www.facebook.com/5ironFrenzy

Content discussed during the show:

Mike Werner, Owner of Mike's Comics and Games located in New Baltimore, MI

http://mikescomicsandgames.com/

Mike's Discord - https://discord.gg/xsWUqEdr

Marvel Champions LCG Discord - https://discord.gg/J2kJMRUF

Dice Master's Discord - https://discord.gg/v33efDKg


Episode 11 - Mike Werner 2: Electric Boogaloo11 Aug 202500:51:39

Jason welcomes back returning guest Mike Werner, owner of Mike's Comics and Games in New Baltimore, MI. They discuss the question "How do I get my friends interested in playing board games?" Board games covered are Apples to Apples, No Thanks, Tsuro, and Uno. This week's solo feature is Dragons of Etchinstone.


Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/

Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Content discussed during the show:

Mike Werner, Owner of Mike's Comics and Games located in New Baltimore, MI

http://mikescomicsandgames.com/

Mike's Discord - https://discord.gg/xsWUqEdr

Episode 10 - Innovation is Hiding in the Weeds of Risk28 Jul 202501:15:52

Jason sits down with Mike Kribel, creator and designer of Beasts and Diplomacy, a new game coming to Kickstarter. They discuss why Mike shifted from video game development to board game design, the concepts behind Beasts and Diplomacy, and board games that influenced Mike's approach to design. Board games covered are The Castles of Burgundy and Lost Cities. This week's solo feature is Beasts and Diplomacy.


Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Content discussed during the show:

Beasts and Diplomacy (Kickstarter page) - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ddpgames/beasts-and-diplomacy?ref=profile_saved_projects_prelaunch&category_id=Q2F0ZWdvcnktMzQ=

Episode 9 - I'm the Third Kessler to Make a Hula Hoop14 Jul 202501:03:10

Jason sits down with Alex Kessler, owner of Kess Entertainment, a game company known for titles such as Battle Bosses, One Piece: Luffy’s Bento Panic, and Sonic Roll. They discuss how Kess Entertainment came from the invention of the hula hoop, the business behind running a game company, and why the company focuses on developing games based on IPs. Board games covered are Scythe and Ultimate Werewolf. This week's solo feature is One Deck Galaxy.


Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Content discussed during the show:

Kess Entertainment - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.kessentertainment.co/

Gem State Gaming Convention - ⁠https://tabletop.events/conventions/gem-state-gaming-convention-2025

Episode 8 - Long-Time Listener, First-Time Caller30 Jun 202500:57:39

Jason sits down with Dan Holding, host of the podcast Dan Likes Games and a content creator known on Instagram as Dicespire . They talk about Dan's love for the board game community, the board game scene in New Zealand, and confess their undying love for Garphill Games. Board games covered are Paladins of the West Kingdom and Ezra and Nehemiah. This week's solo feature is The Anarchy.


Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Content discussed during the show:

Dan Likes Games - ⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/1XYPTLU8iGrewcandNpYEJ?si=ebb3427f138244dc

Dicespire - https://www.instagram.com/dicespire/?hl=en

Gem State Gaming Convention - https://tabletop.events/conventions/gem-state-gaming-convention-2025

Episode 7 - Everything that Happens at the Shop is Because of Me16 Jun 202500:58:24

Jason sits down with Heather Redding, a content creator and social media coordinator for a board game store . They talk about Heather's experiences working at the store, what she learned at GAMA, and why she loves game art done by Sandra Tang. Board games covered are Flamecraft and Alhambra. This week's solo feature is Star Wars Outer Rim.


Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Content discussed during the show:

Stardusts Games - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/stardusts.games/?hl=en

Episode 6 - There Was Sort of a Play on Having a Punchable Face02 Jun 202500:56:04

Jason sits down with Bo Nørgaard, a content creator from Denmark who goes by the name Punchable Games . They talk about Bo's interest in board games, board gaming in Europe, and Essen Spiel. Board games covered are Under Falling Skies and Harmonies. This week's solo feature is Hand of Cthulhu.


Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/⁠⁠⁠⁠


Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠


Content discussed during the show:

Punchable Games - ⁠https://www.instagram.com/punchablegames/

Kickstarter that includes Hand of Cthulhu -https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/simonroyfilice/one-card-maze-season-3?ref=discovery&term=one%20card%20maze%20season%203&total_hits=14&category_id=34

Episode 5 - Because of Tiny Little Math Rocks and What They Might Decide to Do19 May 202500:59:25

Jason sits down with Wesley Bryan from the Actual Play podcast, Felhaven, to discuss his experiences as a content creator and his interest in board games. They also talk about Betrayal at the House on the Hill and Wingspan. This week's solo feature is Palm Island.


Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/⁠⁠⁠


Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠⁠⁠⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" ⁠⁠⁠https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠⁠⁠


Content discussed during the show:

Felhaven - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/felhaven/id1743354600

Episode 4 - It's Mostly Serendipity, Really05 May 202501:08:57

Jason sits down with Sean Fosse and Logan Fitz from Glasshouse Games to discuss the upcoming Kickstarter campaign for their board game, Whisker Wars. They also talk about Unmatched and Nemesis. This week's solo feature is Nemo's War.


Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/⁠⁠


Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠⁠⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" ⁠⁠https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠⁠


Content discussed during the show:

Glasshouse Games - https://play.glasshousegames.co/?v=A

Glasshouse Games Discord - https://discord.gg/MCNUW85GVJ

Episode 20 - Seems Like a Lot of People Like Foxes for Company Names29 Jun 202601:09:03

Jason sits down with Chris Harglerode, a board game designer and owner of the publishing company Gilded Fox Games. They talk about the founding of the company, discuss his approach to game design and a couple of games he has in the works, and then cover his upcoming flagship game Crown & Dagger. Games covered are Harmonies and River Valley Glassworks. This week's solo feature is Ker Nethalas: Into the Midnight Throne.

Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Content discussed during the show:

Gilded Fox Games - https://gildedfoxgames.com/

Episode 19 - I'm Starting a Company, Look at Me Everybody!15 Dec 202501:03:39

Jason sits down with Jason Katzwinkel, a board game designer and owner of the publishing company The Seahorse and the Hummingbird. They discuss what led to such a unique company name, the first game Jason's company is publishing called Pyrotechnics, and Jason's experiences at PAX Unplugged. Games covered are Root and Parks. This week's solo feature is Skara Brae.

Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Content discussed during the show:

The Seahorse and the Hummingbird - ⁠⁠https://www.seahorseandhummingbird.com/

Cardboard Commons - https://discord.gg/TjAjhjSYan

Pyrotechnics - https://www.seahorseandhummingbird.com/shop/pyrotechnics-board-game/

Episode 18 - The Running of the Nerds17 Nov 202501:10:45

Jason sits down with Correy Dugger, host of the YouTube channel Travel the Board. They discuss Correy's background in content creation, his experiences at Gen Con, and what he really enjoys about making videos for his channel. Games covered are Let's Go to Japan and Wyrmspan. This week's solo feature is Lands of Galzyr.

Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Content discussed during the show:

Travel the Board - ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@TraveltheBoard

Episode 17 - Spiel 2025 Wrap-Up: A Lot of Board Game Designers Started Out as Board Gamers03 Nov 202500:57:25

Bo returns from his trip to Essen Spiel to discuss his favorite games from the event, share his experiences, and reminisce about after-hours gaming at the hotel.

Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Content discussed during the show:

Punchable Games - ⁠https://www.instagram.com/punchablegames/⁠

Episode 16 - Spiel 2025 Primer: I've Found Spiel to be My Happy Place20 Oct 202500:59:45

Jason sits down with Bo Noorgard, a Danish board game enthusiast and content creator on Instagram. They discuss previous experiences, tips, and answer some general questions first time attendees may have. Games covered are Gutenberg and Galileo Galilei. This week's solo feature is Savannah Park.

Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Content discussed during the show:

Punchable Games - https://www.instagram.com/punchablegames/

Tabletop Together Tool - https://tabletoptogether.com/tool/

Episode 15 - Coming from the Guy Whose Name Nobody Can Pronounce06 Oct 202501:21:21

Jason sits down with Mat Cousineau, a podcaster and board game designer. They discuss their affinity for Euchre, the process behind Dice, Camera, Action, and how the idea for Kuiperium came to be. Games covered are Dune: Imperium Uprising and A War of Whispers. This week's solo feature is Small-Time Heroes.

Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Content discussed during the show:

Dice, Camera, Action - https://open.spotify.com/show/6qdEe883BfnB7qqYCLS8gy?si=7b4c784d92e34e06

Episode 14 - That's the Quickest Way to Lose Friends22 Sep 202500:56:13

Jason sits down with A. Henry Moen, a game designer and content producer with Halfling Wizard Productions. They discuss what got Henry interested in designing games, why he approaches design with a theme first perspective, and best practices for game testing. Games covered are Stone Age and Camel Up. This week's solo feature is Small-Time Heroes.

Contact:

t.meeple.chase@gmail.com

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/the_meeple_chase/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Credits:

Logo - Johnny Gamble ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/jongambledesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Theme Song - Five Iron Frenzy, "Battle Dancing Unicorns with Glitter" ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fiveironfrenzy.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


Content discussed during the show:

Halfling Wizard Productions - https://www.twitch.tv/halfling_wizard_prod

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