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The May 13 Group PODCAST

The May 13 Group

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Frequency: 1 episode/25d. Total Eps: 6

The May 13 Group is an emerging ecosystem oriented toward—and energized by—epistemic healing and wholeness in, through, and around evaluation. Join hosts Carolina De La Rosa Mateo and Vidhya Shanker as they dive into ideas and stories that deepen our understanding of how structurally-focused collective action, including direct action organizing, can challenge capitalist relations of knowledge production and colonial ways of knowing, reclaim the means and ends of knowledge production, and build the foundation for a solidarity economy.

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https://themay13group.net
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https://themay13group.net/
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/vidhyashanker
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/carodela
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September Announcement

Tuesday, September 10, 2024 • Duration 01:12

We're going to be taking a break this month, but we'll be back in October. In the meantime, you can stay connected with us on our website themay13group.net.

What is solidarity?

Season 1 · Episode 4

Tuesday, August 13, 2024 • Duration 54:33

Summary

In this episode, Sarah Stachowiak joins Carolina and Vidhya in reflecting transparently on our financial relationship. How does the owning class’s control over manufacturing processes and products show up in the knowledge economy and the evaluation of public and nonprofit/ nongovernmental programs? What does it mean for the “raw material” (data about/ from program participants)? For the “independence” of knowledge workers, who market ourselves in terms of how much more value we produce for the people who pay for our goods and services? Can we think of financial exchange differently? How could we organize accountability in knowledge work horizontally across class status—not necessarily around shared experiences of oppression, but rather around shared resistance against it?

⁠⁠Episode 4 TRANSCRIPT⁠

Notes

1:30: In solidarity with the Duwamish, we lift up this petition for federal recognition as well as their reparations program, Real Rent
6:47: The Critical Educators for Social Justice Special Interest Group (SIG) made is no longer available online. Read more here.
8:47: AEA’s statement is no longer available online but reprinted here
10:12: It was more like 6 weeks later, not 6 months later that the Advocacy & Policy Change TIG issued a statement
11:35: The only other statement that we are aware of AEA having made was issued in 2003. Read more here.
33:11: Read more about “kinder and gentler” here and here
35:29: The financial benefits are explained here

References

Music

“Inspired” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) ⁠⁠Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0⁠⁠

Contact us

Website:⁠⁠ https://themay13group.net⁠⁠⁠

LinkedIn:

Carolina: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carodela⁠⁠⁠
Vidhya: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/vidhyashanker⁠⁠

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Why “The Next Day”?

Season 1 · Episode 3

Tuesday, July 16, 2024 • Duration 56:56

Summary

In this episode, Carolina and Vidhya reflect on the tension among learning from the past, meeting immediate needs in the present, and both imagining and building a better future. We discuss evaluation’s origins as a tool for capital and grapple with our status as members of the professional/ managerial class. Folx with our training and current positionality find uncertainty “risky.” Whose interests do we ultimately serve? Could a solidarity economy offer evaluators a safety net or better fallback position from which to make collective demands—by organizing ourselves or joining existing movements that serve the working class?

⁠⁠Episode 3 TRANSCRIPT⁠

Notes

8:19, 19:50, 20:36: The author⁠⁠ and date of publication are ⁠⁠Edward Suchman and 1967.
21:12: Vidhya meant ⁠⁠The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996⁠⁠
24:44: It is racist in that there are no regular Black or indigenous characters. Additionally, although there IS an Asian adoptee and a Colombian immigrant character, the Asian adoptee is not old enough to speak for much of the show’s run. Jokes are made at Asians’ expense, including hers. Plots about the Colombian immigrant largely reinforce stereotypes about Latine women.

References

Appreciative Inquiry⁠⁠
Nonprofit Industrial Complex: a set of symbiotic relationships that link political and financial technologies of state and owning class control with surveillance over public political ideology, including and especially emergent progressive and leftist social movements (Rodriguez, 2006)

Why Evaluation?

Season 1 · Episode 2

Tuesday, June 11, 2024 • Duration 56:24

Summary

In this episode, hosts Carolina De La Rosa Mateo and Vidhya Shanker ask, “why evaluation?” We wonder if evaluation can be a site of resistance against racial/gendered capitalism, when capital developed evaluation to support its interests and continues to control the means and ends of knowledge production. Can evaluators renounce capitalism and positivism to organize against exploitation alongside the working class? Can we refuse to take EEI, DEI, CRE, GEDI, CRT, etc. for granted and change the structure of the knowledge economy?

Episode 2 TRANSCRIPT

Notes

7:19: Vidhya should have referred to the imperial wars in Southeast Asia.
19:45: Access to the written word provides an advantage only in hierarchical systems that devalue oral traditions and non-written languages and knowledge to justify the displacement of entire bodies of knowledge and ways of knowing and the corresponding domination of entire peoples who are portrayed as primitive or unfit to govern themselves
20:30: (Vidhya’s elaboration) Tamil language and culture predate Sanskrit and what people now call Hinduism. But the language that brahmins typically claim is Sanskrit. Though no longer spoken, Sanskrit is still used within Hindu hegemony in much the same way that Latin and Greek are used within European hegemony: to provide authority and legitimacy to specific ideas and practices and to discredit others.
23:15: The only time that there is not an adversarial relationship between workers and management is when workers are management, as in self-governed cooperatives
47:06: We just resist being reduced to numbers. There is also ⁠the stereotype⁠ that Asians only like numbers—from the 1965 Immigration Act⁠

Who Are We?

Season 1 · Episode 1

Tuesday, June 11, 2024 • Duration 01:09:36

Summary

In this episode, we (hosts Vidhya Shanker and Carolina De La Rosa Mateo) introduce ourselves, share how our worlds came together, and discuss The May 13 Group. We talk about our personal histories inside and outside evaluation, the Minnesota IBPOC in Evaluation Community of Praxis, how The May 13 Group came to be, and what it could possibly become. We invite anyone who works in and around evaluation or other knowledge work (e.g., philanthropy, nonprofits, NGOs, government, academia) to take a listen and help craft the ecosystem!

Episode 1 TRANSCRIPT

Notes

1 correction: At the 45:34 mark, Vidhya misspoke by saying "before my generation and even before me" when she meant to say "before me and even before my generation."

References

Why is Evaluation So White? (90-min video of Center for Evaluation Innovation webinar that took place on 5/13/2020)
Definitional Tension: The Construction of Race in and through Evaluation (dissertation that draws from and led to many of the ideas The May 13 Group is working with)
Pangea World Theater (comrades who helped create the stop-action play entitled The Revolution Will Not Be Culturally Competent, which led to the MN IBPOC in Evaluation Community of Praxis)
Theater of the Oppressed (playlist of videos ranging from 5 to 30 min on Augusto Boal and the performance traditions underlying The Revolution Will Not Be Culturally Competent)

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