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| A Conversation with Mike R. | 22 Oct 2026 | 01:35:16 | |
Join Francis for a special two-part conversation with Mike R. from Mike and Chris’s Cool NA History Page. Mike shares his personal journey: finding Narcotics Anonymous, getting clean, and the experiences that shaped his life and his connection to the fellowship. Francis and Mike dive into their shared passion for Narcotics Anonymous history. They talk about collecting and preserving our history, the stories behind the memorabilia and literature, the people and events that helped shape NA, and why keeping these stories alive matters. More than an interview, it’s a conversation between two addicts who genuinely love digging into NA’s past and preserving it for the future. Two addicts. Two history enthusiasts. One shared passion for the story of Narcotics Anonymous. | |||
| Northern California History and Archives Committee | 18 Oct 2026 | 01:18:02 | |
What does it take to preserve the history of Narcotics Anonymous, and what happens when a few dedicated members decide that the stories of those who came before us are too important to lose? In this episode of The Living Clean Podcast, we're joined by members of the Northern California History and Archives Committee to discuss their journey from a small history project during the COVID-19 pandemic to becoming an officially recognized regional subcommittee dedicated to preserving the history of NA. We explore how Art M. and Francis C. began connecting with longtime members and NA predecessors, the challenges they faced in gaining support within the service structure, and how the determination of local Areas helped establish the committee in 2023. Along the way, we discuss the importance of oral histories, the preservation of photographs, letters, meeting directories, newsletters, and other historical materials, and the incredible work that has gone into recording more than 100 interviews by the end of 2024. We also talk about the committee's efforts to digitize historical collections, including materials from the San Francisco Area Service Office, and their work documenting the development of NA throughout Northern California. Looking ahead, we explore one of their most ambitious projects yet: a comprehensive history book documenting the growth of Narcotics Anonymous throughout Northern California. One of the most powerful messages from this conversation is simple: "You Are the Book." Every member has a story, every Area has a history, and every generation has a responsibility to preserve what was freely given to us. This episode is a reminder that the history of Narcotics Anonymous isn't just found in old documents or photographs. It lives in the experiences of the addicts who carried the message, built our service structure, opened meeting doors, and helped make recovery possible for those who followed. Preserving our past. Documenting our journey. Sharing our history with future generations. | |||
| Be the Change #6: Showing Up — Commitment in NA Service | 15 Oct 2026 | 01:04:35 | |
Be the Change SeriesWhat does commitment look like in Narcotics Anonymous service?Sometimes it is as simple as showing up.In this special Be the Change episode, Dee M. from Cookeville, Tennessee joins David, Francis, Amanda, and Travis for a conversation about commitment and service and the first exercise in Be the Change #6: Spiritual Principles in NA Service.Exercise 1 — Showing UpSpiritual Principle: Commitment“When we come together in service, we connect with each other in a vital way.”— Guiding Principles, p. 13Commitment doesn't always require doing something big. It can mean arriving a few minutes early, staying until the work is finished, being dependable, and making ourselves available to the fellowship.We explore how simply showing up connects us to something greater than ourselves. When we place our time, energy, and willingness at the service of NA, we help strengthen our groups, support one another, and make sure the message remains available to the addict who still suffers.This week's practice:Arrive a few minutes early.Stay until everything is finished.Then ask yourself: How did simply showing up help carry the message today?Join Dee M., David, Francis, Amanda, and Travis as we talk about commitment, willingness, responsibility, and what happens when recovering addicts keep showing up for each other.You don't have to change everything.Show up. Be willing. Be the change.Come back for the next exercise in the Be the Change: Spiritual Principles in NA Service series on the Living Clean Podcast. | |||
| Step Ten: “We Continued to Take Personal Inventory and When We Were Wrong Promptly Admitted It.” | 11 Oct 2026 | 01:47:04 | |
This week on The Living Clean Podcast, we continue our journey through the Twelve Steps with Step Ten—the beginning of learning how to practice what we’ve gained in recovery as part of our everyday lives. Our returning panel of Archer, Pete, and Douglas is back, and this week we’re joined by Ali and Rufus to talk about what it means to continue taking personal inventory. Step Ten teaches us that recovery isn’t about reaching a point where we stop making mistakes. It’s about becoming willing to recognize them sooner, take responsibility for them, and make things right before they have a chance to pile up. We talk about daily inventory, promptly admitting when we’re wrong, watching for old patterns, and learning the difference between healthy self-examination and beating ourselves up. We also explore what “promptly” really means, why admitting we’re wrong can still be difficult even after working the first nine steps, and how Step Ten helps prevent resentments, dishonesty, fear, and other problems from quietly building back into our lives. The first nine steps have helped us clean up much of our past. Step Ten helps us keep today clean. Join Archer, Pete, Douglas, Ali, and Rufus as we share experience, strength, and hope about living Step Ten—not perfectly, but consistently—and learning how regular inventory, accountability, and course correction can become a way of life. | |||
| J.W. Speaks — A Spontaneous Episode | 08 Oct 2026 | 00:55:58 | |
Sometimes the best conversations are the ones you don’t plan. In this spontaneous episode of The Living Clean Podcast, Francis sits down with J.W. for an open and personal conversation about where life has him today. J.W. shares about his current health issues, the spiritual principles that help him navigate difficult circumstances, and what recovery looks like when life shows up on life’s terms. Along the way, Francis and J.W. talk about The Living Clean Podcast, Narcotics Anonymous, friendship, gratitude, spirituality, service, and a whole lot of other things in between. No agenda. No script. Just two addicts sitting down and sharing their experience with each other. The heart of NA beats when two addicts share their recovery. | |||
| Kia Ora Koutou | 04 Oct 2026 | 01:05:53 | |
In this episode of The Living Clean Podcast, we sit down with the Māori woman from Aotearoa, New Zealand, who wrote “Kia Ora Koutou,” one of the personal stories published in the Narcotics Anonymous Basic Text. The episode begins with a narration of her powerful story—a woman who entered treatment kicking and screaming, got clean partly out of stubbornness and spite, and slowly discovered hope through the message of Narcotics Anonymous. She shares honestly about the progression of her addiction, losing the trust of her whānau, surviving her earliest cravings ten minutes at a time, grieving her old way of life, and eventually rebuilding her relationship with her children, earning a university degree, and creating a life she once believed was impossible. After hearing “Kia Ora Koutou,” we speak directly with its author about the experiences behind those words and everything that has happened during the 23 years since she wrote them. We explore her Māori identity, family, spirituality, recovery, and the many ways her understanding of hope and freedom has continued to grow. This is more than an update to a story from the Basic Text. It is living proof that an addict can stop using, lose the desire to use, and find a new way to live. Arohanui—big love. | |||
| The Newcomer Montage #2 | 01 Oct 2026 | 02:03:11 | |
The Newcomer Montage returns with a second collection of voices speaking directly to the most important person in Narcotics Anonymous: the newcomer. This montage covers episodes of The Living Clean Podcast from November 3, 2024, through December 28, 2025—a period that also represents an important chapter in the evolution of the podcast. It begins around the time Francis joins Mason as co-host, and the two begin recording together on a regular weekly basis. During these conversations, Mason again starts making a point of asking our guests a simple question: “Is there anything you would like to share with the newcomer?” The answers were never scripted. Some are brief, some emotional, some practical, and some come from members with decades of experience. Put together, they become a collection of experience, strength, hope, encouragement, and reminders of what helped each person stay clean. Through this episode, the purpose remains simple: carrying the message to the addict who still suffers. If you're new, coming back, struggling, or simply need to remember what it felt like when you first walked through the doors, these voices are speaking to you. Keep coming back. Give yourself a chance. Listen to the people who have walked this road before you. You never have to do this alone. Welcome home. | |||
| LCBS - Spiritual and Emotional Crisis | 27 Sep 2026 | 01:04:19 | |
In this Living Clean Book Study episode, we begin the section “Spiritual and Emotional Crisis,” covering the first four paragraphs. Recovery doesn’t mean we stop going through hard things. Sometimes the crisis isn’t about wanting to use—it’s about feeling disconnected, overwhelmed, uncertain, or struggling to make sense of what we’re going through. We discuss what Living Clean has to say about these difficult periods, what they can reveal about where we are spiritually and emotionally, and how staying connected to recovery can help us move through them without returning to old ways of coping. | |||
| Men with Men, Women with Women - Let's talk about it | 24 Sep 2026 | 01:19:27 | |
Mo returns to The Living Clean Podcast to lead a panel discussion exploring gender bias in sponsorship and the traditional “men with men, women with women” approach. What happens when we look at sponsorship outside of heteronormative and binary thinking? How do gender, sexual orientation, attraction, safety, identification, and personal experience influence who we choose as a sponsor? And most importantly, how can we make sure the newcomer has access to the guidance and support they need? Mo is joined by a panel representing different communities and perspectives: Shane C. — Vacaville, California Elaine — Ben Lomond, California Veronica M. — Paradise, California Evan — Tupelo, Mississippi | |||
| A conversation with Michael M. | 20 Sep 2026 | 01:55:05 | |
This week on The Living Clean Podcast, we sit down with Michael M., who has been clean since August 17, 1975. Michael takes us back to his early days in recovery and shares what Narcotics Anonymous looked like at that time, including his involvement in the early development of the fellowship in his area and his experience attending the 7th World Convention. From there, we get into Michael’s many years of service and some of the major changes he witnessed and participated in as NA grew. We talk about his involvement with It Works: How and Why, the Sixth Edition of the Basic Text, the development of the first World Board, and his experience serving as the first chair of the World Board. Along the way, Michael shares stories from more than 50 years of recovery and service and gives us a firsthand look at some of the people, decisions, challenges, and changes that helped shape Narcotics Anonymous into the worldwide fellowship it is today. There is a whole lot of NA history in this one, but more importantly, there is a whole lot of recovery. Join us for a conversation with Michael M., clean since August 17, 1975, on this week’s episode of The Living Clean Podcast. | |||
| Francis’s Archive: The 40th Anniversary of the Sixth World Literature Conference | 17 Sep 2026 | 01:22:22 | |
The Paradise Strong Book Study presents a special historical meeting commemorating the 40th anniversary of Narcotics Anonymous’ Sixth World Literature Conference, held in Miami, Florida, in September 1981. The World Literature Conferences were an extraordinary period in NA history. Members from across the Fellowship came together to write, review, organize, and shape the material that would eventually become the Narcotics Anonymous Basic Text. By the time members gathered for the Sixth World Literature Conference, years of work at conferences, regional literature committees, workshops, and through correspondence had brought the Fellowship closer than ever to having its own book. Chris and Boyd from Preserving the Message join the Paradise Strong Book Study and take us back into that history through a PowerPoint presentation, archival material, and the voices of members who participated in the literature movement. During the presentation, we hear historical audio from Charles K., Sally Evans, Doug W., and Mary Banner, offering firsthand memories of the conference and the remarkable grassroots effort that surrounded the writing of the Basic Text. The meeting then opens for discussion and sharing. Bo S., Charles K., Al R., Mark B., Bryant S., Henry S., and Pete B. add their own experience, memories, and reflections on the literature movement and the history being preserved. The Sixth World Literature Conference represents an important chapter in the story of NA literature—a time when recovering addicts took responsibility for putting their collective experience into words. That work helped carry the Basic Text toward the 1982 World Service Conference, where the book was approved by the Fellowship’s service structure, followed by publication of the First Edition in 1983. Five years ago, members gathered to remember what had happened forty years earlier. Today, Francis’s Archive brings that meeting back so another generation can hear the history in the voices of those who helped live it. | |||
| 45th anniversary of the 6th World Literature Conference | 13 Sep 2026 | 01:59:14 | |
This week on The Living Clean Podcast, Francis and Mason mark the 45th anniversary of the 6th World Literature Conference, held in Miami, Florida, September 14–20, 1981. In Part One of this special episode, we go day by day through the conference, using the original minutes and historical records to look at what was actually happening in the room as members worked to complete the Narcotics Anonymous Basic Text. We talk about the unfinished chapters, the debates over How It Works, the all-night group conscience meetings, the heat, the typewriters and photocopiers, the disagreements, the laughter, and the incredible amount of work that eventually led to one simple sentence being recorded in the minutes on September 20: “The book is finished.” This episode sets the stage for Part Two, where you’ll hear firsthand memories from people who were actually there in Miami and participated in this historic conference. For an even deeper look at the 6th World Literature Conference, visit PreservingTheMessage.org and check out the accompanying presentation on the Preserving the Message YouTube channel. Links to the blog and YouTube presentation are included below. | |||
| The Therapeutic Value of One Addict Helping Another | 10 Sep 2026 | 00:37:12 | |
What does it really mean when we say, "The therapeutic value of one addict helping another is without parallel"? In this episode of The Living Clean Podcast, Francis sits down with Chris C. from Yreka, California, an active member of Recovery at Work (RAW), to explore one of the most recognizable sentences in Narcotics Anonymous literature. Using the unique RAW format, Chris thoughtfully breaks down the statement one phrase at a time, revealing the depth, practical application, and spiritual principles contained within these few powerful words. Together, they discuss how addicts carrying a message of hope to other addicts creates a connection that no professional treatment, education, or outside resource can fully duplicate. Along the way, Francis does his best to navigate the RAW format—with a few stumbles, laughs, and plenty of humility—making for an engaging conversation that's both insightful and entertaining. Whether you're new to recovery, active in service, or simply curious about why peer-to-peer recovery has transformed millions of lives, this episode offers a fresh perspective on a timeless principle. Join us for a thoughtful conversation about the simple yet profound power of addicts helping addicts. | |||
| Step Nine: “We Made Direct Amends to Such People Wherever Possible, Except When to Do So Would Injure Them or Others.” | 06 Sep 2026 | 01:28:55 | |
This week on The Living Clean Podcast, we continue our journey through the Twelve Steps with Step Nine—the step where the preparation of Step Eight becomes action. Our returning panel of Archer, Pete, and Douglas is back, and this week we’re joined by Brandon B. and Lucy for an honest conversation about making direct amends. We talk about what an amends actually is, the fear that can come before making one, the difference between an apology and an amends, and why repairing the damage from our past is about much more than simply saying “I’m sorry.” We also explore the important qualification built into the step—“except when to do so would injure them or others”—and why willingness, guidance, timing, and our motives matter. Step Nine gives us an opportunity to stop hiding from the past without becoming trapped in it. We take responsibility for the harm we caused, do what we can to make things right, and begin experiencing a different kind of freedom—the freedom that comes from cleaning up our side of the street. Join us for Step Nine as Brandon B., Lucy, Archer, Pete, and Douglas share their experience, strength, and hope about making amends and what happens when we finally become willing to face the people and situations we once wanted to avoid. | |||
| World Unity Day | 05 Sep 2026 | 00:56:29 | |
September 5 is World Unity Day, and Francis and I decided there was no better reason to jump behind the microphones for a spontaneous special episode of The Living Clean Podcast. Unity has always been at the heart of Narcotics Anonymous. We come from different places, different backgrounds, and different experiences, but we share a common purpose: to carry the NA message to the addict who still suffers. In this special episode, Francis and I talk about what unity actually means in NA, why Tradition One — “Our common welfare should come first; personal recovery depends on NA unity” — matters far beyond the words on the page, and what it means to belong to a worldwide Fellowship. We’ll also talk about World Unity Day 2026, when NA members around the world will pause together, share the Serenity Prayer, and reflect on the Fellowship and our primary purpose. No big production. No guest. Just Francis and me having a conversation about something we both love: Narcotics Anonymous, our worldwide Fellowship, and the unity that makes all of this possible. Happy Unity Day from The Living Clean Podcast. | |||
| NA in Indiana | 03 Sep 2026 | 01:12:35 | |
What started as a simple message turned into an unexpected journey through the history of Narcotics Anonymous in Indiana. After receiving a random request for ideas and questions for the Dinosaur Panel at the 40th Annual Fun in the Sun Hog Roast in the South Central Area of Indiana, Francis realized there was a much bigger story waiting to be told. Instead of just helping prepare for the panel, he sat down with Indiana's own NA History Couple, Jessica R. and Tony R., to explore the rich history of the fellowship throughout the Hoosier State. Whether you're attending the 40th Annual Fun in the Sun Hog Roast, interested in NA history, or simply enjoy hearing how the message of recovery spread one addict at a time, this episode is filled with experience, strength, hope—and a few unexpected turns. Recovery is built one addict helping another, and our history reminds us how we got here. The Living Clean Podcast is dedicated to preserving the history of Narcotics Anonymous and sharing the stories of the members who carried the message so that others could find recovery. | |||
| Pamela T. | 30 Aug 2026 | 01:25:28 | |
In this episode of The Living Clean Podcast, we sit down with Pamela T. to hear her recovery story and explore a journey through Narcotics Anonymous service that has taken her into some fascinating places. Pamela shares her experience helping establish a new NA area and being involved during the early days of what was, at the time, a groundbreaking approach to service: Consensus-Based Decision Making (CBDM). We talk about what it was like watching those ideas develop, learning a different way of reaching decisions, and seeing how service structures evolve over time. Her journey eventually took her to the NA World Service Office, where she had the opportunity to serve in different roles and participate in workgroups connected to NA literature. We discuss some of that experience, including her involvement with Guiding Principles: The Spirit of Our Traditions and A Spiritual Principle a Day. This conversation is part recovery story, part NA history, and part look behind the curtain at how service and literature actually develop. More than anything, it is the story of where saying yes to service can take one recovering addict—and the experiences, relationships, and lessons picked up along the way. | |||
| The Arizona History Book Part 2 | 29 Aug 2026 | 00:25:52 | |
Francis and Rowan return for a second panel discussion exploring the Arizona Narcotics Anonymous history book, As the Journey Began. This episode shifts from the stories in the book to the work of preserving them for future generations. Together they discuss how technology has transformed NA archiving, from scanning old newsletters and photographs to organizing digital collections and safeguarding decades of fellowship history. The conversation explores the advantages and challenges of digital storage, graphic design, file management, and the importance of creating archives that can be accessed by future trusted servants. Whether you're an NA history enthusiast, an archivist, a trusted servant, or simply curious about how our fellowship's story is preserved, this episode offers practical insights and thoughtful discussion about carrying our history forward in the digital age. Recovery's message is carried one addict to another—but our history reminds us how we got here. Join Francis and Rowan as they continue the conversation on preserving the legacy of Narcotics Anonymous, one archive at a time. If you are looking for the Arizona NA History book it can be found on Amazon: https://a.co/d/02FfBePZ | |||
| The Story Behind the Arizona NA History Book | 28 Aug 2026 | 00:59:25 | |
Every piece of NA history begins with someone who cared enough to preserve it. In this episode, Francis sits down with members of the committee behind As the Journey Began, the Arizona Narcotics Anonymous history book. Together, they share the inspiring story of how a dedicated group of trusted servants spent years collecting memories, interviewing members, preserving photographs, verifying facts, and assembling the rich history of Narcotics Anonymous in Arizona. The conversation explores the challenges and rewards of documenting a fellowship built on anonymity, the importance of preserving our collective experience for future generations, and the countless volunteers whose contributions made this remarkable project possible. Whether you're passionate about NA history, involved in service, or simply curious about how fellowship history is preserved, this episode offers a behind-the-scenes look at one of the most significant regional history projects in Narcotics Anonymous. Join us for an engaging discussion about fellowship, perseverance, and why remembering where we've been helps guide where we're going. "We don't preserve history to live in the past—we preserve it so the message of recovery continues to inspire those who have yet to arrive." https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WP0j60LPV6Tab--3sc4OkPZAPfwszWGm/view?usp=sharing | |||
| A Brazilian Full of It | 23 Aug 2026 | 01:12:59 | |
What happens when a story from the Narcotics Anonymous Basic Text comes to life? Mason, Francis, and Jasmine B. sit down with Lucia C., whose recovery story, "A Brazilian Full of It," appears in the Basic Text. Lucia shares an honest and inspiring conversation about the road that led her to recovery—from traveling the world as a professional dancer during her addiction to finding a new way of life through Narcotics Anonymous. Lucia reflects on the experiences that shaped her journey, the lessons she learned along the way, and what it means to have her story included in NA literature. She also brings listeners up to date on her life today, sharing how recovery continues to transform her relationships, purpose, and outlook. The conversation also explores the growth of Narcotics Anonymous in Brazil, highlighting the unique cultural differences within the fellowship while celebrating the universal message that recovery is possible for any addict, regardless of language, culture, or geography. | |||
| Fellowship Development in Narcotics Anonymous | 20 Aug 2026 | 01:01:37 | |
What does it take to help a fellowship grow from the inside out? In this episode of The Living Clean Podcast, Francis is joined by Kristin D. from St. Louis, Missouri, Brawnyn B. from Berkeley, California, and Travis M. from Chico, California, for an engaging conversation about Fellowship Development in Narcotics Anonymous. Together, they explore this exciting and evolving area of NA Public Relations, discussing how Fellowship Development strengthens local communities, supports struggling meetings, encourages unity, and helps carry the message of recovery to addicts who still suffer. The conversation highlights practical ways members can build healthier, more connected NA communities through service, mentorship, collaboration, and shared experience. Whether you're new to Fellowship Development or already involved in service, this episode offers insight, inspiration, and real-world examples of how members are helping NA grow from within—one meeting, one community, and one addict at a time. Recovery grows when we work together. Join us for a conversation about service, connection, and the future of Narcotics Anonymous. | |||
| Mel Helman | 17 Aug 2026 | 00:31:36 | |
Francis sits down with Mel Helman for a very special conversation, recorded on July 16, 2026—one month before Mel’s passing. Mel got clean on October 7, 1968, in Southern California and was a personal friend of Jimmy K., one of the founding members of Narcotics Anonymous. His life in recovery gave him a unique connection to the early days of the fellowship and to the people who helped shape NA into what it is today. Mel specifically asked that The Living Clean Podcast release this episode on the day he recovered. We are honored to fulfill that request. This conversation is more than an interview about NA history. It is Mel sharing his experience, memories, and perspective near the end of his life—a final opportunity to carry the message that had been such an important part of his journey since 1968. We are grateful to Mel for trusting us with his voice and his story. We hope you enjoy Mel Helman’s parting message. | |||
| The Story Behind BMLT (Basic Meeting List Toolbox) with Chris M. | 16 Aug 2026 | 01:20:41 | |
This week on The Living Clean Podcast, we sit down with Chris M., an addict in recovery whose personal journey eventually led him to create something that would have a lasting impact on Narcotics Anonymous service around the world: the Basic Meeting List Toolbox, better known as BMLT. But before we talk about technology, databases, or service, we start with Chris himself. Chris shares his personal recovery story — where he came from, what brought him to Narcotics Anonymous, and the experiences that shaped his life in recovery. It’s a fascinating story and an important reminder that behind every piece of NA service is an addict who first had to find a way to stay clean. From there, we get into the story of BMLT. The Basic Meeting List Toolbox was created to give NA service bodies a stable, secure, and centralized way to maintain meeting information. Instead of Areas, Regions, and other service bodies maintaining separate versions of the same information, BMLT allows meeting data — where a meeting is, when it meets, and its format — to be maintained from a central source and then used across multiple websites and meeting-finding tools. In other words, when an addict pulls out a phone, visits an NA website, and searches for a meeting, there is a good chance there is much more happening behind that search than they realize. Chris takes us back to how the idea started, the problem he was trying to solve, how BMLT developed, and how something created to serve a practical need grew into a tool used throughout the NA service structure. We also talk about what happened when Chris eventually passed the project on to others to continue maintaining and developing it — an incredible example of the spirit of service: build something that helps addicts, give it freely, and allow it to become bigger than the person who started it. This episode isn't really about software. It's about what can happen when recovery, experience, talent, and service come together — and how one addict's desire to contribute can quietly help countless other addicts find their way into a meeting. | |||
| A Cab Driver's Journey of Recovery with Bombay Mark | 13 Aug 2026 | 00:49:02 | |
What happens when recovery takes you halfway around the world and into the driver's seat of one of the most famous cities on earth? In this episode, Francis and Travis sit down with the unforgettable Bombay Mark—a recovering addict whose journey began in Bombay and eventually led him to the streets of New York City as a nighttime cab driver. Mark shares the story of finding recovery, building a new life in America, and navigating the endless parade of humanity that climbs into the back seat of a New York City taxi after dark. From moments of danger and heartbreak to unexpected kindness and inspiration, his stories reveal the resilience of the human spirit and the life-changing power of recovery. This conversation is filled with humor, honesty, and hope as Mark reflects on the lessons he's learned from thousands of passengers and how staying clean has allowed him to witness life through a completely different lens. | |||
| Loving Our Long-Timers | 09 Aug 2026 | 01:12:29 | |
What happens when one simple idea grows into a worldwide source of hope and connection? In this episode of The Living Clean Podcast, we sit down with Camilla, the person whose vision sparked the Loving Our Long-Timers meeting. What began as a way to honor members with decades of continuous recovery has become a place where experience, strength, and hope are shared by some of the fellowship's longest-clean members. Camilla shares the story behind the meeting, how it got started, the impact it has had on recovering addicts around the world, and why preserving the experience of long-term recovery matters so much. Whether you're brand new to recovery or have decades clean, this conversation is a powerful reminder that recovery truly works. If you're looking for encouragement, wisdom, and stories from members with 30+ years clean, we highly recommend checking out the meeting. Loving Our Long-Timers (Zoom Meeting) ❤️ Two meetings every week Zoom ID: 974 8817 4579 Password: hope Fridays
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The meeting has featured 900+ speakers with more than 28,000 combined years of recovery, and many of those talks are available as free downloads. Learn more at nalongtimers.org. | |||
| Tales from the Helpline | 06 Aug 2026 | 01:57:01 | |
What inspires someone to answer the phone when another addict reaches out for help? In this episode of The Living Clean Podcast, Mo brings an idea to life with an episode titled "Tales from the Helpline." Francis and Mo sit down with members who have dedicated themselves to Narcotics Anonymous helpline service, exploring the heart behind one of NA's most important yet least visible forms of service. Our guests share what motivated them to volunteer, the experiences that have stayed with them, and the quiet rewards of being there for the still-suffering addict. They discuss the responsibility of carrying the message with compassion, maintaining anonymity, and offering hope to someone who may be making the most important phone call of their life. Whether you've served on a helpline, are considering getting involved, or simply want to learn more about this vital service, this conversation offers a heartfelt look at the power of one addict helping another. Join Francis and Mo as they celebrate the spirit of selfless service and the dedicated members who help ensure that, whenever an addict reaches out, someone is there to answer. Recovery begins with a connection—and sometimes, that connection starts with a simple phone call. | |||
| Step Eight: We Made a List of All Persons We Had Harmed and Became Willing to Make Amends to Them All | 02 Aug 2026 | 01:15:45 | |
This week on the Living Clean Podcast, we continue our journey through the Twelve Steps with Step Eight: “We made a list of all persons we had harmed and became willing to make amends to them all.” Our returning panel is back — Archer, Pete, Douglas, and, of course, the co-host with the most, Francis. This week, we're joined by special guests Shane and Margaret as we unpack one of the most significant turning points in recovery. Step Eight marks the moment when recovery begins to move outward. After taking an honest look at ourselves in the previous steps, we now begin looking honestly at the people our addiction affected. We discuss what it means to make a complete list, how willingness often comes before action, and why this step is about far more than simply saying, "I'm sorry." Together, we explore fear, guilt, shame, forgiveness, accountability, and the difference between making amends and seeking forgiveness. We also talk about difficult names to put on the list—including ourselves—and how becoming willing lays the foundation for the life-changing work of Step Nine. This conversation is practical, heartfelt, and full of experience from people who have walked this path. Whether you're preparing to work Step Eight or reflecting on it years later, there's something here for everyone. | |||
| A talk with Pam M. & Vern P | 30 Jul 2026 | 01:20:06 | |
In this episode of Francis's Archive, we hear firsthand stories from two longtime members of the Narcotics Anonymous fellowship of Joplin, MO. Pam M. and Vern P. They share memories of the early days of recovery in southwest Missouri, recalling the first meetings, the challenges of carrying the message, and the dedication that helped establish a strong NA community throughout the Show Me Region. Pam and Vern reflect on how meetings were started, how trusted servants stepped forward when there were few resources, and how the NA service structure gradually developed to support groups across the region. Their stories paint a vivid picture of the commitment, sacrifice, and faith that built a foundation still benefiting recovering addicts today. The conversation also honors several remarkable pioneers whose lives left a lasting impact on the fellowship. Through heartfelt memories of Bob R., Jim N., Blackie B., and Danny Jo, listeners will hear stories of compassion, humor, perseverance, and unwavering commitment to carrying the message of recovery. These personal recollections preserve an important chapter of NA history while reminding us that one addict helping another remains at the heart of everything we do. Whether you are interested in the history of Narcotics Anonymous, enjoy hearing the experiences of longtime members, or simply appreciate stories that celebrate recovery and service, this episode offers an inspiring look at how a fellowship grows—one meeting, one member, and one act of service at a time. Thank you for listening to The Living Clean Podcast. If you enjoy preserving the history of Narcotics Anonymous, please follow, share, and leave a review to help others discover these stories and ensure that our fellowship's history continues to be remembered for future generations. | |||
| Life and Death in NA | 26 Jul 2026 | 01:24:18 | |
This week on The Living Clean Podcast, we’re honored to welcome the author of one of the most unforgettable recovery stories ever published in Narcotics Anonymous: “Life and Death in NA.” In this deeply personal conversation, we revisit the story more than twenty years after it was written. Together, we explore the unimaginable losses of a father, a brother, and a son to the disease of addiction, the grief that followed, and the recovery principles that made it possible to stay clean through it all. Beyond the pages of the story, we discuss how grief evolves over time, the importance of connection, service, forgiveness, and what it means to continue living when addiction has taken so much. Most importantly, we ask the question every reader has wondered for years: Where is he today? Whether you’ve read Life and Death in NA or are hearing this story for the first time, this episode is a powerful reminder that recovery doesn’t protect us from life’s greatest tragedies—but it does give us the tools to face them with hope, courage, and love. | |||
| The History of The Metro Detroit and Michigan Regions | 23 Jul 2026 | 01:28:16 | |
In this episode of The Living Clean Podcast, Francis sits down with Jacob B. for a fascinating look at the history of Narcotics Anonymous in the Metro Detroit and Michigan Regions. Together, they explore the fellowship's early roots in Michigan, including some of the first known NA meetings and the important role that meetings at Jackson State Prison played in carrying the message of recovery. The conversation traces the growth of NA throughout the state, highlighting the dedicated members who helped establish meetings, build service structures, and create a foundation for future generations of recovering addicts. Francis and Jacob also discuss the history of newsletters, both past and present, and how they helped connect members, share information, and preserve the fellowship's story. The episode concludes with a look at the evolution of conventions and recovery gatherings across Michigan, celebrating the events and people that helped strengthen unity and carry the NA message. Whether you're interested in NA history, service work, or the stories of those who came before us, this episode offers an engaging journey through the rich history of recovery in the Metro Detroit and Michigan Regions. | |||
| Bob J is back! | 19 Jul 2026 | 01:11:06 | |
Bob J is back! If you listened to our episode "A Tale of Two Keytags," you already know Bob has a remarkable story. That conversation left us wanting to hear more, so we invited him back to go beyond the keytags and share the journey that shaped his recovery. In this episode, Bob opens up about his path through recovery, his decades of service, and his experiences serving on the World Board. We talk about the victories, the setbacks, the lessons learned, and the people and principles that helped him stay the course. From personal struggles to service at the highest levels of Narcotics Anonymous, Bob offers an honest look at what it means to grow, persevere, and keep showing up. Whether you're interested in recovery, NA service, or simply hearing the story of someone who has dedicated much of his life to carrying the message, this conversation is full of experience, strength, and hope. We hope you enjoy this conversation with our good friend, Bob J. | |||
| A Conversation with John L | 16 Jul 2026 | 00:57:09 | |
In this episode of The Living Clean Podcast, Francis sits down with longtime NA service enthusiast John L. for a wide-ranging conversation about recovery, service, and the relationships that have shaped his journey. John reflects on his experience serving at the World Service Conference, what it was like to complete his term as the Northern California Regional Delegate, and the lessons he learned through years of trusted service. He also shares memories from his involvement with the TAC Convention, highlighting the friendships, challenges, and spiritual growth that came through serving the Fellowship. The conversation also turns personal as John tells the story of how he met his wife and speaks with gratitude about the love, support, and blessings she has brought into his life. It's an honest discussion about balancing service, recovery, and family while remaining committed to carrying the message. Whether you're interested in NA service, Fellowship history, or simply enjoy hearing the stories of members who have dedicated their lives to recovery, this is an episode you won't want to miss | |||
| The Impossible Dream | 12 Jul 2026 | 01:53:15 | |
The Living Clean Podcast welcomes Lynne and Gina as they sit down with Mason and Francis for a powerful conversation about the history of Narcotics Anonymous in New York. From the earliest days of recovery in the city to the struggles and rebirth of the fellowship, this episode explores the people, events, and spiritual determination that helped carry the message through difficult times. The discussion covers early New York NA history, including the influence of Danny Carlsen, the story of “The Junkie Priest,” and the impact of the Rockefeller drug laws on addicts seeking recovery. Lynne and Gina share firsthand perspectives on the rise, decline, and eventual return of strong recovery communities throughout New York, along with memories surrounding the historic 1983 Narcotics Anonymous World Convention. This episode is a heartfelt look at perseverance, service, and the addicts who refused to let the message die. | |||
| Be The Change #6: In All Our Affairs, | 09 Jul 2026 | 01:48:29 | |
n this episode of Francis's Archive, Francis is joined by David, Travis, and Amanda as they continue their discussion of Be The Change #6: In All Our Affairs, Part 2. Together, they work through the Step Twelve exercises found in the Be The Change workbook, exploring how spiritual principles move beyond meetings and become a way of life. The conversation focuses on the ripple effect our attitudes, actions, and behaviors have on the people and environments around us. Through personal experience and recovery insight, the panel examines what it means to practice honesty, humility, accountability, patience, and compassion in every area of life—including work, home, meetings, online interactions, and times of conflict. The group discusses the "Ripple Effect Awareness Exercise," encouraging listeners to reflect on where their attitude influenced the atmosphere throughout the day. They explore practical questions such as: What would spiritual maturity look like in this situation? Am I helping create safety? Would I say this in person? and What response reflects growth? The episode also highlights the power of unconditional practice—the willingness to live spiritual principles regardless of circumstances. Whether it is showing kindness when others are short, remaining honest when uncomfortable, or helping someone without recognition, the discussion emphasizes that recovery is built through consistent daily actions. Join Francis, David, Travis, and Amanda for a practical and thought-provoking conversation about carrying the message through our behavior and becoming the change we wish to see in all our affairs. | |||
| Step Seven: We Humbly Asked Him to Remove Our Shortcomings | 05 Jul 2026 | 01:30:46 | |
This week on the Living Clean Podcast, we continue our journey through the Twelve Steps with Step Seven: “We humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.” Our returning panel is back — Archer, Pete, Douglas, and Francis — and this week we're joined by special guests JW and Danette for a thoughtful and honest discussion about humility, willingness, and the ongoing process of spiritual growth. Step Seven asks us to move beyond simply identifying our shortcomings and become willing to let them go. In this episode, we explore what humility really looks like in everyday life, why some defects seem so difficult to release, and how pride, fear, self-reliance, and ego can keep us stuck in old patterns. We also discuss the difference between knowing what needs to change and becoming willing to trust the process of change. Recovery is not about achieving perfection. It is about becoming teachable, remaining open, and continuing to grow. Step Seven reminds us that lasting transformation doesn't come from self-improvement alone—it comes from humility, honesty, and a willingness to seek help beyond ourselves. Through personal experience, practical examples, and heartfelt sharing, this episode offers insight into one of the most powerful and often overlooked steps in recovery. Do yourself a favor and listen. | |||
| Paradise Strong Book Study meeting commemorating the 40th Anniversary of the Fifth World Literature Conference (WLC5) | 02 Jul 2026 | 02:34:46 | |
The Living Clean Podcast, we are pleased to share this special recording of the Paradise Strong Book Study meeting commemorating the 40th Anniversary of the Fifth World Literature Conference (WLC5). Originally held on June 29, 2021, this event brought together members who attended the Fifth World Literature Conference, along with other trusted servants and members who participated in World Literature Conferences throughout the years. This unique gathering offers firsthand accounts, historical reflections, and personal memories from those who helped shape Narcotics Anonymous literature. The discussion explores the spirit of service, collaboration, and dedication that contributed to the development of the Fellowship's message of recovery. The meeting concludes with an open question-and-answer session, giving members of the Fellowship an opportunity to engage directly with the panel and learn more about this important chapter in NA history. This recording was captured during a live Zoom meeting and is presented in its entirety to help preserve and share our Fellowship's history. We hope you enjoy this fascinating look back at the Fifth World Literature Conference and the members who helped carry the message forward. | |||
| 45th anniversary of the 5th World Literature Conference | 28 Jun 2026 | 02:01:27 | |
In Part One, we break down the conference itself — the lost chapters of the Basic Text, the all-night group conscience meetings, the workshops, the editing battles, the spiritual moments, and the unbelievable amount of work done by recovering addicts trying to build a book that could carry the message worldwide. We explore not only what happened at WLC V in Warren, Ohio in 1981, but also the spirit of the process — the unity, passion, exhaustion, humor, and faith that held it all together. In Part Two, we’re joined by members who were actually there. They share personal memories and firsthand insight into what it was like to live through the process of building the Basic Text and participating in one of the most historic literature conferences in NA history. This episode is both a historical deep dive and a reminder that the literature we often take for granted today was built by addicts who believed the message was worth sacrificing for. We also encourage everyone to check out the incredible work being done at: and subscribe to the: Preserving the Message YouTube Channel | |||
| Orange County Area Archives | 25 Jun 2026 | 01:37:24 | |
In this episode of Francis's Archive, Francis sits down with Kareem K. to explore the history and preservation of the Orange County Area Archives. Kareem shares his journey into archival service, what sparked his passion for preserving Narcotics Anonymous history, and the importance of safeguarding our fellowship's collective memory. Together, they discuss the value of archives in NA, the stories and documents that help connect us to our roots, and how preserving our past helps carry the message to future generations. Whether you're a history enthusiast, an archivist, or simply curious about the evolution of NA, this conversation offers insight into the dedication and service behind preserving our fellowship's legacy. Join Francis and Kareem for a fascinating discussion about NA history, archival work, and the importance of remembering where we came from as we continue to move forward in recovery. https://drive.google.com/file/d/196rEBBOrOExH2c-o0sHZ2qPDcFHYyEHp/view?usp=sharing | |||
| Father’s Day Special | 21 Jun 2026 | 01:22:49 | |
Earlier this year, we released a special Mother's Day episode, and we knew we couldn't let Father's Day pass without doing the same. In this special episode of the Living Clean Podcast, Francis and Mason sit down for a heartfelt conversation about fatherhood, recovery, and the men who helped shape our lives. We share stories about our own dads—the lessons they taught us, the things we carry with us today, and how our relationships with them have evolved through recovery. We also talk about being fathers ourselves. Recovery has given us opportunities many of us never thought possible: the chance to be present, dependable, loving, and engaged in the lives of our children. We discuss the challenges, responsibilities, joys, and occasional fears that come with trying to be the fathers our kids deserve. Along the way, we explore how Narcotics Anonymous helped us heal family relationships, break generational cycles, and learn what it means to show up consistently for the people we love. Whether your experience with your father was positive, complicated, painful, or somewhere in between, we hope this conversation offers identification, hope, and encouragement. Join us for a candid discussion about fathers, sons, daughters, gratitude, forgiveness, legacy, and the incredible gift of being able to participate fully in our families' lives—clean and present, one day at a time. Happy Father's Day from all of us at the Living Clean Podcast. | |||
| Welcome Home Mo | 18 Jun 2026 | 00:41:20 | |
The Living Clean Podcast returns with a spontaneous and heartfelt conversation as Francis sits down with friend of the podcast, Mo. In this deeply personal episode, Mo shares how she first met Mason and Francis at NCCNA and how those connections grew into friendship, fellowship, and ongoing participation with the podcast community. Mo opens up about her journey in recovery, the experience of becoming part of the Living Clean Podcast family, and the spiritual connection that developed through shared recovery and service. The conversation also explores the painful reality of relapse, the isolation that can come with drifting away from recovery, and the courage it took for Mo to find her way back to Narcotics Anonymous. This episode is honest, emotional, and filled with hope—a reminder that no matter how far we wander, the doors of recovery remain open and the fellowship is ready to welcome us home. | |||
| Living Clean Book Study: Disabilities (Part 2) | 14 Jun 2026 | 01:24:05 | |
In this episode of the Living Clean Podcast, we continue our discussion of the Living Clean chapter on Disabilities. Recovery doesn't eliminate life's challenges, but it does give us new ways to face them. Whether those challenges are physical, cognitive, emotional, visible, or invisible, this conversation explores what it means to live a full and meaningful life in recovery while navigating limitations, obstacles, and differences. Our panel discusses the importance of acceptance, self-worth, accessibility, asking for help, overcoming shame, and finding purpose despite circumstances that may feel unfair or overwhelming. We also examine how recovery helps us move beyond seeing ourselves as our disability and instead allows us to recognize our value, strengths, and ability to contribute. This chapter reminds us that while disabilities may affect how we move through the world, they do not define who we are. Recovery offers connection, dignity, hope, and the opportunity to participate fully in life—one day at a time. Join us as we continue this powerful and heartfelt conversation on resilience, inclusion, gratitude, and the freedom that comes from learning to live clean no matter what challenges we face. | |||
| Jeff B & Roger F - More Mo | 11 Jun 2026 | 01:08:45 | |
In this episode, “More Mo,” we continue our journey through the history and spirit of recovery in Missouri with two longtime members of Narcotics Anonymous. First, Jeff B. from Kansas City shares about the beginnings of NA in Kansas City, his relationship with Bob R., and his involvement in helping start the region. Jeff also reflects on the efforts toward unity in Kansas City and the challenges and rewards of bringing addicts together in service and recovery. Then we hear from Roger F. from Mexico, Missouri, who once again shares powerful stories about Bob R. Roger talks about recovery in rural central Missouri, the importance of conventions and fellowship gatherings, and the spirit behind Cabin Fever—one of the events that helped connect recovering addicts across the state. These stories help preserve the living history of Narcotics Anonymous—one addict helping another, carrying the message across cities, small towns, and generations. | |||
| Step Six: We Were Entirely Ready to Have God Remove All These Defects of Character | 07 Jun 2026 | 01:56:02 | |
This week on the Living Clean Podcast, we continue our Twelve Step journey with Step Six: “We were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.” Our returning panel is back — Archer, Pete, and Douglas — and this week we’re joined by special guests Karen J. and Ron H. for a deep and honest conversation about willingness, readiness, and the lifelong process of change. We explore what character defects really are, why some behaviors are so difficult to let go of, and how many of us want relief while still holding on to the very things causing us pain. We discuss pride, fear, control, resentment, self-centeredness, and the inner resistance that often shows up when real transformation begins. Step Six is where we stop just identifying the problem and start becoming willing to live differently. It is where honesty meets humility, and where growth becomes possible. This is one of the most relatable and practical episodes in the Step series so far. If you’ve ever known what needs to change but struggled to let it go, this episode is for you. Do yourself a favor and listen. | |||
| Friendships in Recovery | 04 Jun 2026 | 01:11:02 | |
On this episode of The Living Clean Podcast, we explore a friendship that bridges generations in recovery. Francis, with 33 years clean, and Travis, celebrating just over a year, share how recovery creates connections that go far beyond time clean. Though they come from different experiences and different places in their journeys, they’ve found something powerful in common: the ability to help each other grow. This episode follows a special weekend in Northern California. On Thursday night, Francis speaks in Nevada City, sharing decades of experience, hope, and the spiritual principles that have carried him through life clean. The very next evening, Travis takes the message to Red Bluff at an Ice Cream Social Bingo Night, carrying a fresh and passionate message of early recovery. Together, their stories show that recovery isn’t about seniority—it’s about connection. One addict helping another. Experience meeting enthusiasm. Wisdom meeting willingness. And both people walking away changed. Whether you’re brand new or have decades clean, this conversation is a reminder that we never stop learning from each other, and we never outgrow the need for fellowship, friendship, and purpose. | |||
| Jim H. - Philadelphia,PA | 31 May 2026 | 01:07:11 | |
Spotify Episode Description On this episode of The Living Clean Podcast, we sit down with Jim H., one of the earliest members of Narcotics Anonymous in the Philadelphia area. Jim shares what it was like in the early days of recovery in the late 1960s and early 1970s, including getting clean on June 6, 1974 — a date that would ultimately change the course of his life. Jim talks about being what he calls the fifth member of NA in Philadelphia around 1971, going back out for several years, and then finding his way back to recovery in 1974. From there, his story becomes deeply connected to the growth of Narcotics Anonymous itself. He helped start meetings throughout the Philadelphia area and carried the message internationally to places like Iceland and Copenhagen during a time when NA was still finding its footing around the world. This episode is filled with personal history, hard-earned experience, humor, honesty, and a firsthand look at what recovery looked like before there were meeting lists, literature everywhere, or established fellowships in many cities. Jim’s story is a reminder that recovery survives because addicts continue carrying the message one person at a time. | |||
| A Conversation with Bryant S. | 28 May 2026 | 01:31:05 | |
In this episode of The Living Clean Podcast, Francis sits down with Bryant S. for a deep dive into a pivotal era in the history of Narcotics Anonymous. Bryant got clean in July 1981 during the closing years of the Literature Movement that helped produce the Narcotics Anonymous, and he shares firsthand memories from one of the most transformative periods in NA history. Bryant recounts his experiences at the legendary Rising Sun Club House and his involvement with the Atlanta Literature Committee during the years leading up to and following the publication of the Basic Text. The conversation explores the energy, passion, and controversy surrounding the early literature conferences, including Bryant’s attendance at the 6th World Literature Conference and two Mid-South Regional Service Conferences. He also reflects on what was presented at the 9th World Literature Conference at the Bucks County Farmhouse, including collaborative work connected to the Youth and Recovery IP. Along the way, Bryant shares personal stories about service, fellowship politics, spiritual growth, and the dedication many members had toward carrying the NA message to addicts still suffering. The episode also takes a deeply personal turn as Bryant speaks openly about complacency in recovery, his relapse, and the difficult road back to Narcotics Anonymous. His story is one of humility, perseverance, and the enduring power of recovery and fellowship. This episode is packed with living history, personal experience, and hard-earned wisdom from someone who witnessed—and participated in—some of the most important moments in early NA literature development. | |||
| We Love NA | 24 May 2026 | 01:04:13 | |
What makes us love Narcotics Anonymous so deeply? In this episode of The Living Clean Podcast, Mason and Francis sit down for a heartfelt conversation about the many reasons NA continues to mean so much to us. We share personal stories, memorable experiences, and those small moments that often say the most—moments of connection, laughter, growth, service, friendship, and recovery. From meetings that changed our lives to the people who helped shape our journey, we reflect on the things that make NA more than just a program—it’s a way of life and a worldwide fellowship built on hope. This episode is a celebration of gratitude, recovery, and the countless blessings we’ve found through Narcotics Anonymous. Whether you’re brand new or have decades clean, we hope this conversation reminds you why we keep coming back. We Love NA. | |||
| History of Missouri Narcotics Anonymous | 21 May 2026 | 00:40:58 | |
History of Missouri Narcotics Anonymous Panel In this special episode of The Living Clean Podcast, we sit down with longtime members from across Missouri and the surrounding region to explore the rich and often untold history of early Narcotics Anonymous in the Midwest. Joining us for this panel discussion are Kimmy S. from Kansas City, MO; Rick P. from Carthage, MO; Eddie P. from Kansas City, KS; Roger F. from Mexico, MO; Jeff B. from Kansas City, MO; Bob D. from St. Louis, MO; and Barb O. from Kansas City, MO. Together, we trace the beginnings of NA in Missouri, including the earliest meetings in St. Louis, Joplin, and Kansas City. Rick P. shares memories surrounding the formation of the Fifth Tradition Group in Joplin—recognized as the oldest registered NA meeting in Missouri. The panel reflects on the challenges of carrying the message in the late 1970s and early 1980s, when meetings were scarce and literature was limited. We also discuss the growth of the fellowship throughout the state, the development of early area and regional service structures, the separation from the Mid-America Region, and the eventual formation of the Show Me Region. The conversation highlights the spirit of unity, persistence, and service that helped build NA across Missouri. This episode is an important oral history conversation featuring members who helped carry the NA message when the fellowship was still finding its footing across the Midwest. Recovery is alive in Missouri—and this episode helps tell the story of how it began. | |||
| Step Five: We Admitted to God, to Ourselves, and to Another Human Being the Exact Nature of Our Wrongs | 17 May 2026 | 01:40:49 | |
This week on the Living Clean Podcast, we continue our walk through the Twelve Steps with one of the most powerful and freeing steps in recovery. Our consistent panel returns — Archer, Pete, and Douglas — and we’re joined by two special guests, Janine E. and Christina T., for an honest discussion on Step Five and what it truly means to let go of secrecy, shame, and the weight we have carried for far too long. We talk about the fear that can come before this step, the courage it takes to be fully honest, and the relief that often follows when we finally share the truth with God, ourselves, and another human being. We also explore trust, vulnerability, humility, and how Step Five helps break the isolation that keeps many of us stuck. This step is not about punishment. It is about freedom, healing, and no longer living alone inside our own mind. If you’ve ever struggled with guilt, fear, or telling the truth about your past, this episode is for you. Do yourself a favor and listen. | |||
| History of Narcotics Anonymous in New Orleans, Louisiana | 14 May 2026 | 01:42:23 | |
Today we head down South to explore the early history of Narcotics Anonymous in New Orleans, Louisiana — a city known for music, resilience, culture, and survival. But underneath the stories of Bourbon Street and Mardi Gras is another powerful story: addicts helping addicts find recovery in a place where many never thought freedom was possible. Before we get started, we want to give a huge shout out to Douglas from the Anonymous Podcast, along with Barb and Paul from the Anonymous Squad. Thank you for helping preserve recovery history and for continuing to carry the message through storytelling, fellowship, and service. We are grateful for the work all of you do. In this episode, we sit down with early New Orleans NA members Kathe and Nancy as they share firsthand memories of the first Narcotics Anonymous meetings in New Orleans. From small beginnings and borrowed meeting spaces to the struggles and miracles of early recovery, these stories help paint a picture of what NA looked like in Louisiana during its formative years. We also round out this episode by featuring excerpts and reflections from Anonymous Podcast interviews with Jerry S. and Iron Bill, two longtime Louisiana members whose experience, strength, and personality left a lasting impact on countless addicts. Though they are no longer with us physically, their voices and stories continue to carry hope. This episode is more than history. It is a reminder that NA grows because recovering addicts show up, open the doors, and keep the message alive for the next suffering addict. The history of New Orleans NA is full of grit, spirituality, humor, and perseverance — and we are honored to help preserve a small part of it. So wherever you are listening from, thank you for joining us on this journey through recovery history. Sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of the Living Clean Podcast: The History of New Orleans, Louisiana. | |||