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Jaime Taets, CEO and founder of Keystone Group International, and author of "You Are Here" and "The Culture Climb" discusses the challenges of leading in a post-pandemic world, highlighting the importance of conscious leadership, and adapting to constant change. Jaime emphasizes the need for leaders to create cultures that value strengths and impact, prepare for ongoing changes, and foster environments where employees feel connected to the organization's purpose. She also addresses the generational shifts in the workforce and the significance of managing change effectively.

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Key Takeaways

[03:51] Jaime discusses the current dire state of workplace culture as a result of a perfect storm of factors accelerated by the COVID-19 pandemic. She explains that declining employee engagement, which had been gradually worsening for over two decades, was amplified by the pandemic, forcing companies to rapidly adapt to shifting employee values and priorities. This exposed their unpreparedness for the dramatic changes in the workforce. 

[05:52] She talks about leaders struggling to cope with increased pressure and uncertainty, while lacking the necessary skills to inspire and motivate their teams. Simultaneously, she states that employees are disengaged and unclear about the organization's direction. 

[08:23] She believes organizations struggle to meet conflicting employee demands and different generations have varying expectations, making it challenging to please everyone. She argues that ineffective leadership is a root cause, with many leaders promoted based on performance rather than leadership skills. 

[12:45] Jaime says organizations struggle with rapid change and differing employee needs. She also stated that poor leadership, often prioritizing performance over people skills, hinders progress.

[19:33] Jaime believes resilience is the cornerstone of strong leadership. Overcoming challenges, rather than being deterred by them, shapes individuals into effective leaders. She also says societal pressures often hinder personal growth, but a mindset shift is crucial to view obstacles as opportunities for development. 

[27:35] Jaime believes social media, while initially beneficial, now negatively impacts mental health by fostering unrealistic comparisons. This leads to a longing for a simpler life, reminiscent of past eras. 

[32:19] Jaime shares her personal journey of climbing Mount Kilimanjaro inspired by her upcoming book, "Surviving Greatness." The book explores the challenges of achieving success and the subsequent need for personal growth.

[37:54] Closing quote: Remember, "If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading. " —  Lao Tzu

Quotable Quotes

"Culture is the leader's choice."

"Our cultures cannot thrive and produce the business results that we're looking for if our leaders don't know how to manage their own energy."​

"Everyone has a story, and we're more similar than we are different."​

"The most successful people have had the hardest roads going there."​

"The comparison issue is just absolutely robbing us of living our lives and what makes us happy."

"If you don't shift your own perspective, it's really going to be someone else who tells you what your perspective should be." 

"We haven't given leaders the time or space to learn how to lead like that." 

"If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading. " —  Lao Tzu

These are the books mentioned in our discussion with Jaime

Resources Mentioned

• The Leadership Podcast | theleadershippodcast.com

• Sponsored by | www.darley.com

• Rafti Advisors. LLC | www.raftiadvisors.com

• Self-Reliant Leadership. LLC | selfreliantleadership.com

• Jaime Taets's LinkedIn | www.linkedin.com/in/jaimetaets

• Jaime Taets's Website | jaimetaets.com

• Jaime Taets's Instagram | @jaime_taets

Scott Mautz, author of "The Mentally Strong Leader: Build the Habits to Productively Regulate Your Emotions, Thoughts, and Behaviors," defines and describes what it is to be a mentally strong leader. Scott defines mental strength as the ability to remain calm, in control, and intentional, contrasting it with signs of mental weakness. He emphasized the importance of managing emotions and being intentional in leadership, adapting flexibly to different situations. Throughout the discussion, Scott highlighted tools from his book aimed at improving leadership effectiveness and managing expectations. He also touched on the impact of coaching on mental strength development and navigating societal changes affecting workplace dynamics.

https://bit.ly/TLP-424

Key Takeaways

[03:18] Scott revealed a surprising detail about his past: he did stand-up comedy in college and grad school for beer money, almost professionally. However, he chose to follow his passion for leadership instead of pursuing comedy full-time. Scott integrates humor into his leadership style, using it to lighten the mood, diffuse tension, and unite people. He believes that "the shortest distance between two people is laughter."

[04:52] Scott discusses his book "The Mentally Strong Leader" defining mental strength as the ability to remain calm, in control, and intentional. He contrasts this with signs of mental weakness, emphasizing that lacking these qualities indicates low mental strength.

[06:05] Scott explores how intentionality in leadership can be a delicate balance, noting that being overly intentional may lead to tone-deafness, while lacking intentionality can result in uninspired leadership. He emphasizes that mental strength includes managing emotions and approaching work with intention, adapting flexibly to meet the demands of different situations.

[07:21] Scott identifies signs of mental weakness in leaders and defines mental strength as the capacity to manage emotions, thoughts, and behaviors effectively during challenges. He emphasizes self-awareness and self-regulation as crucial for leadership, impacting organizational outcomes. Jim adds that effective leaders balance being demanding and inspirational, setting clear expectations while promoting positivity and realism. Scott agrees, emphasizing tools from his book, "The Mentally Strong Leader," for effective expectation management.

[15:48] Scott draws an analogy between mental muscles and physical muscles, akin to a workout regimen. His mental strength self-questionnaire offers a personalized score, highlighting strengths and areas for improvement in mental muscles such as boldness and decision-making. This tool supports leaders in maintaining balance and commitment to their mental strength development journey.

[19:23] Jim queried Scott on the impact of coaching in developing mental strength, drawing a comparison to sports coaching. Scott suggested initiating with a mental strength self-assessment and employing scientifically grounded tools from his book. He advised revisiting progress after three months and seeking guidance from a coach or mentor if advancement slows down. 

[21:54] Scott discussed his book's focus on emotions, thoughts, and behaviors, emphasizing the misconception about confidence and the role of doubt. He introduced the doubt continuum, stressing that managing doubt is key to genuine confidence. Scott warned against extremes like overconfidence and fear paralysis. Jan linked this to societal challenges of tribalism and asked about leadership balancing uniqueness and adaptability. Scott highlighted leadership as fostering more leaders through learning agility and embracing individuality while evolving.

[25:47] Scott and Jim discussed how societal changes are impacting workplace dynamics, comparing these challenges to "adult puberty." Scott highlighted the importance of mental strength in today's career pressures, similar to emotional intelligence. Jim reflected on past generational work differences, noting higher expectations today could lead to greater disillusionment. Both agreed on the growing importance of resilience in adapting to changing career landscapes.

[30:16] Scott and Jim explored the nuances of difficult conversations, emphasizing preparation and understanding power dynamics. Scott highlighted the importance of fortitude in these interactions, while Jim discussed strategies for managing up, focusing on influence, endurance, or departure. 

[36:13] Scott reassured listeners not to feel daunted by the process of becoming mentally stronger, emphasizing that everyone starts at a baseline. He suggested using the mental strength self-assessment to identify areas for growth and highlighted the effectiveness of the tools and habits in his book, validated through real-world applications. 

[37:21] And remember, Striving for success is healthy, but believing you need to succeed the first time around may backfire. Mentally strong people believe failure is part of the process toward a long journey to success. By viewing failure as a temporary setback, they're able to bounce back and move forward with ease. - Amy Morin

Quotable Quotes

"The shortest distance between two people is laughter."

"Mental strength is the ability to regulate, not only your emotions, but your thoughts and your behaviors and actions as well. Productively, of course, especially in times of adversity."

"Mental strength is the leadership superpower of our times. It is the next EQ that you're going to be hearing about for the next ten years, because it's a level above EQ in empowerment.""

"The opposite of mentally strong is not mentally weak. We all have a baseline of mental strength that we could work from."

"You have to have self-awareness about how you are, but more importantly, you need to have self-awareness of how you affect others."

"The best leaders spread hope in reality, and they lay out what they expect, and they're super clear about their expectations and what they demand."

"Times are calling for mental strength more than ever. It really is why I believe it's the next EQ for us all."

"We're victims of our own success. We can talk about having this fulfilling, magical career in the work life that people are like, oh my gosh, it's actually work."

"Having difficult conversations is a different form of fortitude because it's really hard."

Resources Mentioned

• The Leadership Podcast | theleadershippodcast.com

• Sponsored by | www.darley.com

• Rafti Advisors. LLC | www.raftiadvisors.com

• Self-Reliant Leadership. LLC | selfreliantleadership.com

• Scott Mautz Website | https://scottmautz.com

• Scott Mautz LinkedIn | www.linkedin.com/in/scottmautz

• Scott Mautz X (Twitter) @scott_mautz

• Facebook | www.facebook.com/ScottMautzPP

• Instagram | @scottmautz

• THE MENTAL STRENGTH SELF-ASSESSMENT

This is the book mentioned 

In this episode, communication expert Matt Abrahams shares his insights on effective leadership communication through his "four I's" framework: Information, Impact, Invitation, and Implications. He underscores the need for clear, audience-tailored communication, emphasizing empathy and curiosity. Matt discusses the balance between personal authenticity and team support, highlighting the crucial role of feedback and ongoing self-improvement. Drawing on his martial arts background and stories involving his son, he advocates for adapting to various contexts and honing delivery skills. Matt concludes with encouraging listeners to proactively develop their communication abilities.

https://bit.ly/TLP-416

Key Takeaways

[02:30] Matt talks about his experience as a martial artist for 40 years. He says it has kept him healthy and taught him important life skills. He mainly practices a form of karate and also studies Tai Chi. He also mentions he liked the movie "The Karate Kid" partly because of Elizabeth Shue, who was an important part of his life at that time.

[03:38] Matt emphasizes the importance of communication in leadership. He says leaders should focus on clear, meaningful communication that is tailored to their audience. Matt notes two challenges: knowing too much about a topic and being too passionate can hinder effective communication. He suggests using empathy and curiosity to understand the audience better. He also highlights the need for good intergenerational communication in the workplace. Different generations work together, so leaders should adapt and respect different perspectives.

[06:20] Matt believes managers should help people improve their work. He suggests turning tough conversations into opportunities to solve problems together, which encourages collaboration and reduces defensiveness. Matt emphasizes using a structure, especially in high-stress conversations. He introduces the "four I's" framework: Information, Impact, Invitation, and Implications. This framework helps keep conversations clear and focused, making them easier to handle.

[10:36] Matt believes good leadership involves balancing personal authenticity with helping the team. He compares this to the yin-yang dynamic, blending different approaches. Sometimes leaders should take charge, while other times they should let others lead. Matt supports Kim Scott's idea of radical candor. He thinks creating a culture of feedback is important, including positive, neutral, and constructive feedback. Leaders should ask for specific feedback, express gratitude, and show they can change based on the feedback. He also emphasizes that regularly seeking input in the right way leads to better communication and growth.

[15:20] Matt explains that the root of "communication" is about connecting with others. He stresses the importance of taking time to connect, which saves time by preventing problems later. In crisis communication, Matt advises managing oneself, aligning messaging, and staying consistent. Being open, proactive, and practicing for crises helps organizations handle them effectively.

[19:40] Matt emphasizes the importance of being genuine and connecting to what you communicate, even if you don't fully agree. Nonverbal cues like body language and voice tone are key in conveying authenticity. He stresses the need to practice delivery to avoid filler words and ensure clear messaging. Matt acknowledges that language evolves over time, and generational communication patterns may differ. He tries to respect these differences and focus on the intent behind people's words. If asked, he offers advice, but he generally remains open to different communication styles.

[22:03] Matt believes trust comes from connecting with others, which involves slowing down, listening, and giving honest feedback. He acknowledges the pressure to move quickly but says effective leaders take time to understand people and build relationships. In martial arts, Matt sees a connection with communication in observing, listening, and connecting. He prefers working with small startups to build strong communication processes from the start. Matt also emphasizes that communication isn't just about speaking but also includes listening to understand what you're responding to.

[26:58] Matt shares a story about learning from his son that using certain slang terms can seem inauthentic. This shows the importance of recognizing patterns and adapting communication to the context and audience. He stresses the need for authenticity and flexibility in communication, adjusting our approach based on what we observe. Matt believes practice, reflection, and feedback are key to improving communication. He suggests reflecting daily and weekly on what worked and what didn't, and asking for feedback from others to learn and improve. Leaders should encourage reflection on communication in meetings and seek input from others to enhance overall communication quality.

[31:26] Matt likes the quote, "Every journey begins with one step," and applies it to communication. He notes that even experienced leaders can feel nervous about communicating, and improvement takes time. Matt encourages everyone to work on their communication skills because they can always get better. He believes leaders should communicate well and set a good example for others.

[34:27] And remember, there are certain things in which mediocrity is not to be endured, such as poetry, music, painting and public speaking. -Jean de la Bruyere

Quotable Quotes

"Communication is operationalized leadership. It's how we lead, and it's critical to spend time focusing on it."

"Understanding your audience is key: ensure your content is relatable and relevant to those you're addressing."

"Empathy and curiosity are the antidotes to the curse of knowledge and passion. They help us appreciate where our audience is coming from."

"Generational differences require a collaborative approach to communication: not just 'communicate to,' but 'communicate with.'

"Structure and frameworks are vital in high-intensity conversations, providing a roadmap and helping to package up messages effectively."

"Blending what helps the organization and what is true for ourselves can lead to authentic leadership."

"Building a culture of feedback is crucial: be specific in your requests and demonstrate a willingness to change."

"Communication is about making connections—take the time to connect meaningfully with others."

"In crisis communication, proactive measures like aligning messages and practicing drills are essential for success."

"Buy what you're selling. Find a connection between your message and your beliefs to communicate authentically."

"Nonverbal communication is key: your body language, tone, and gestures shape how people perceive your intent and message."

"Practice is crucial in communication—don't just focus on the message, but also how you deliver it."

"Generational language patterns may seem annoying, but they help connect people within groups. Stay open-minded and focus on the intent."

"Trust comes from connection and commonality. Slow down, listen, and give honest feedback to build strong relationships."

"Effective leaders take time to understand others and build trust, which in turn accelerates progress and success."

"Martial arts emphasize observation, listening, and intimacy. These skills can be applied to everyday interactions."

"Communication is not just broadcasting. Listening is a crucial step in effective communication."

"Pattern recognition is key to effective communication: recognize the context and expectations to respond appropriately."

"Authenticity matters: forcing language that's not true to yourself can hinder connection and mutual understanding."

"Spontaneous speaking is like being an athlete: rely on training and skills to navigate different situations effectively."

"Reflection is critical for improvement. Practice, reflection, and feedback help you grow as a communicator."

"Daily reflection can help you recognize patterns in your communication and address areas for improvement."

"Seek feedback from others to understand your communication better and make meaningful changes."

"Leaders should encourage communication reflection in meetings to improve quality and send a message about its importance."

"Communication anxiety can be daunting, but one step at a time leads to improvement. Confidence grows with practice."

Resources Mentioned

• The Leadership Podcast | theleadershippodcast.com

• Sponsored by | www.darley.com

• Rafti Advisors. LLC | www.raftiadvisors.com

• Self-Reliant Leadership. LLC | selfreliantleadership.com

• Matt Abrahams LinkedIn | www.linkedin.com/in/maabrahams

• Matt Abrahams Website | www.mattabrahams.com

• Matt Abrahams Instagram | www.instagram.com/mattabrahams

• Matt Abrahams YouTube | www.youtube.com/channel

In this episode, Jim and Jan explore the importance of saying "no" in the workplace. They highlight how setting clear boundaries and aligning decisions with both personal and organizational values can help leaders manage their time and workload more effectively. Empowering lower-level employees to say "no" can also reduce friction and enhance organizational efficiency. Additionally, they discuss how balancing commitments and making mindful choices contributes to improved focus, productivity, and long-term success.

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Key Takeaways

[01:28] Jim talked about his company name, Rafti Advisors, which connects to his Greek heritage. Rafti is a town in Greece where his father was born and had to leave due to war. Jan added that he grew up in a small village in Ireland and he and Jim made mistakes when they were young. They agreed these experiences helped them grow. They emphasized the importance of giving grace to people making mistakes today, especially since cameras are everywhere now. Mistakes have consequences, but they help people learn and improve.

[03:38] Jim and Jan discuss the impact of hearing "no" and how it influences personal and professional experiences. Jim highlights the emotional weight of "no" and how it can vary based on context, such as a child asking for permission versus avoiding obligations. Jan adds that hearing "no" plays differently in personal decisions and organizational settings. In companies, there can be friction between front-line and support staff due to different priorities, with support staff often focused on risk avoidance. This can lead to frequent use of "no." Both agree that "no" can have a strong influence on decision-making in many areas of life and work.

[06:15] Jim and Jan discuss the importance of saying "no" in organizations to manage resources and maintain focus. Jim emphasizes that leaders need to decide when to say "no" to prevent lower-level employees from becoming a "no department." Jan shares insights from executive coaching, highlighting the need to influence decisions and find ways to navigate challenges. Both agree that knowing when and what to say "yes" helps clarify when to say "no." They reference baseball player Ted Williams' advice on focusing on pitches you can hit, illustrating the importance of clear decision-making.

[10:33] Jim and Jan talk about setting boundaries and managing time at work. Jim mentions a Wall Street Journal article about saying no by setting limits and using outside commitments as excuses. He shares a story about someone working too much and missing time with family. Jan adds that excessive meetings and admin tasks make it difficult to manage time. They agree that poor meeting management and unclear agendas waste time. They also note that changes in the job market have shifted power to employees, leading to new workplace dynamics.

[18:06] Jim visits an old workplace and sees most of it demolished. Reflecting on the past, he emphasizes the importance of relationships and leaders helping people find purpose and grow. This focus on relationships is key for good leadership. Jan agrees, noting that leaders must advocate for their team and say "no" when necessary. Being a good leader isn't just about being nice; it's also about setting boundaries and supporting the team's needs for growth and development.

[22:01] Jim and Jan discuss how it's important to tell people "not yet" instead of just saying "no" if the timing isn't right. They suggest providing context and explaining when an idea might be possible in the future. Jan shares how he manages networking requests by declining politely due to his busy schedule. He explains his need to focus on current commitments and projects and wonders how others perceive this approach.

[24:15] Jim and Jan discuss how receiving a polite decline, such as someone being too busy, shows the person is organized and knows their priorities. They agree this approach is respectable, even if some might see it as distant. Jan says being able to say "no" is about knowing what you value and prioritizing tasks. Saying "yes" to the right things and "no" to others helps manage time. Jim adds that prioritizing tasks doesn't mean other things are unimportant; it just means focusing on what is most urgent.

[24:15] Jim and Jan emphasize the importance of making decisions at the right time, comparing it to picking ripe fruit. They stress the need to align with others and consider the best timing. They reference Dan Pink's book on timing and mention people have more control over their time and responses than they might think. They thank their sponsor, Darley, for its support. They stress the importance of knowing your values and where to focus your time for effective priority management. Careers consist of many short chapters that require adaptability.

[28:30] Jim and Jan discuss the importance of saying "no" to stay focused and productive. Jim explains that saying "no" doesn't mean missing out but helps prioritize tasks and control time. He shares a story about two authors at a billionaire's party, highlighting the value of knowing what is "enough" in life. Jan agrees and stresses the importance of knowing what you truly value to make decisions about when to say "yes" or "no." They acknowledge the challenge of wanting to say "yes" but note that understanding your priorities can help navigate these situations. They reference authors Kurt Vonnegut and Joseph Heller, discussing the importance of seeing the world differently. Overall, they agree that the topic of saying "no" is ongoing and relevant to everyone.

[32:40] And remember, our life is the sum total of all the decisions we make every day, and those decisions are determined by our priorities. -Myles Munroe

Quotable Quotes

"All those mistakes and dumb things we did when we were younger got us to where we are today."

"We need to provide grace and patience to those who are currently being 'knuckleheads' as we were once there ourselves."

"It's harder for people to do stupid things now because there's a camera everywhere. Grace and understanding are more important than ever."

"No can be a powerful and emotional word, understood by everyone."

"Making decisions with a pros-and-cons matrix can be limiting. Instead, consider your core values and priorities."

"Leaders face decisions with moral, ethical, and legal implications. These aren't black-and-white choices but shades of gray."

"Support staff often play a crucial role in mitigating risk and may seem like they're always saying 'no' because they're focused on avoiding mistakes."

"Setting boundaries is essential for managing your time and energy effectively."

"You don't have to say yes to everything; learn to prioritize what truly matters."

"Meetings should have a clear purpose and agenda; otherwise, they're just a waste of time."

"Empowering people means giving them the freedom to make decisions without excessive buy-in."

"A great leader helps people find purpose and meaning in their work."

"The best way to grow an organization is by growing and developing people."

"A good boss advocates for their team and provides them with the resources they need."

"Saying no is a powerful tool for maintaining focus and protecting your time."

"Sometimes we need to say 'not yet' instead of 'no' for good ideas for better timing."

"Time is the most precious thing; where you spend it matters."

"Knowing your values helps you say yes to the right things and no to the wrong things."

"Saying no can lead to being more productive and achieving more."

"When you know what you value, you can prioritize your time effectively."

"The power of no comes from understanding your goals and being able to say no when necessary."

"Knowing what you value can lead to a healthier work-life balance and increased productivity."

Resources Mentioned

• The Leadership Podcast | theleadershippodcast.com

• Sponsored by | www.darley.com

• Rafti Advisors. LLC | www.raftiadvisors.com

• Self-Reliant Leadership. LLC | selfreliantleadership.com

In this episode, Tatiana Kolovou discusses how she manages her social media presence, focusing on family content on Instagram and Facebook while maintaining a professional image on LinkedIn. She also shares her love for Greek cuisine and hobbies like indoor cycling and creating playlists. Tatiana emphasizes the importance of stepping out of one's comfort zone for personal growth and highlights effective communication strategies, inclusive leadership practices, and the significance of emotional intelligence. She also mentions the value of seeking and appreciating feedback and tailoring communication to suit the audience's needs. She advocates for balance in life, growth through challenges, and kindness towards others.

https://bit.ly/TLP-414

Key Takeaways

[03:13] Tatiana shares her values, balancing personal and professional content across her social media platforms. She keeps her Instagram and Facebook for family moments and celebrations, while maintaining a professional image on LinkedIn by sharing learning opportunities. Though she occasionally posts personal content on LinkedIn, she finds that authentic and real posts perform well due to the platform's algorithm. 

[04:36] Tatiana shares her favorite Greek dish, "Lahandolmades." She also mentions that she enjoys indoor cycling and creating playlists but keeps these personal interests off LinkedIn to maintain a professional focus. She also discusses the concept of training in the "discomfort zone," highlighting the importance of pushing oneself beyond comfort for growth and self-awareness. Tatiana emphasizes the value of daily challenges, weekly new opportunities, and monthly learning experiences for personal development and effective communication.

[8:59] Tatiana emphasizes the importance of training in the discomfort zone and developing communication skills through practice. She suggests standing instead of sitting to project energy, and recommends recording oneself for feedback on intonation and energy. She admires William Shatner's performance during an eclipse event at the age of 92, noting his mastery of pacing, energy, and pausing. Tatiana also believes in captivating audiences through stories and energy, even without video. She mentions the need for continuous practice to improve communication skills and stay focused.

[13:35] She highlights the importance of inclusion in organizations, urging leaders to establish a culture that aligns with common values and attracts people for more than just money. Tatiana mentions the need for accommodating different communication styles and clear direction to maintain trust. She also warns against bullying and fear-based leadership, promoting cultural humility and openness to allow others into the in-group. Leaders should seek feedback, listen, and be empathetic to grow their organizations.

[18:16] Tatiana emphasizes the importance of not coddling team members, stating "different is not deficient." Leaders should be curious and open to newcomers, while outsiders must also be flexible and curious. She stresses the value of letting younger people struggle a bit to learn and grow, such as through cultural exchanges or joint projects. She advocates for simulating struggles in controlled environments to prepare individuals for real-world challenges, allowing them to process, reflect, and grow from their experiences.

[23:44] Tatiana highlights the importance of emotional intelligence to avoid damage control. She emphasizes self-awareness, social awareness, and feedback for growth. Tatiana values building relationships and trust, advising people to invest time in making connections. She recommends arriving early to meetings and complimenting clients to strengthen relationships.

[27:24] Tatiana discusses the importance of emotional intelligence in communication and leadership. She shares a story about coaching her son, Alexei, on managing his emotions. Tatiana emphasizes the Greek concept of "Philotimo" or "love of honor," doing the right thing even when no one is watching. She advises leaders to practice cultural humility, emphasizing listening and asking questions rather than making assumptions. This approach fosters trust and builds stronger relationships.

[30:03] She discusses balancing active engagement ("dance floor") and reflection ("balcony") in life. She finds herself reflecting more as she juggles career and family responsibilities, reassessing decisions and trust. Tatiana emphasizes the value of reading to broaden perspectives and the need for honest, direct conflict resolution. Tatiana notes the challenge of avoiding exclusion in teaching and handling conflict, emphasizing the importance of understanding individual needs to provide constructive feedback and guidance.

[35:45] Tatiana coaches individuals to ask specific questions when seeking feedback, such as, "Did I come across with more energy?" This approach elicits more helpful responses. She emphasizes being open to feedback and showing appreciation for it, as people rarely offer feedback freely. Tatiana shares about honor, noting that while it doesn't have a price, it brings gratitude and respect to those who possess it. She also highlights the Greek connection between honor and price, emphasizing the importance of knowing when to apply each.

[37:51] Tatiana challenges people not to assume that difference is bad, and instead encourages empathy and understanding. She urges individuals to embrace differences and put themselves in others' shoes. She advocates for taking time daily to observe oneself and to focus on giving more than taking. Tatiana's challenge is to pay it forward when possible, fostering a culture of care and kindness toward others.

[38:44] Tatiana emphasizes understanding the audience's values and interests before delivering a message. She advises adapting communication style (email, phone call, or video) to suit the audience. She also stresses the importance of tailoring the approach to meet the audience's needs for more effective communication.

[43:02] Remember, the single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place. -George Bernard Shaw

Quotable Quotes

"Challenge yourself daily by stepping out of your comfort zone. Ask for something unexpected once a week, and every month, embrace learning something new, even if it makes you feel like a beginner."

"Mastering this skill requires continuous practice and pushing through discomfort. The more you do it, the better you become."

"If you have the energy to speak with conviction and enthusiasm, you don't necessarily need video."

"Success lies in how engaging and captivating you can be, regardless of the medium."

"Being different doesn't mean being deficient."

"When the in-group views outsiders as 'different,' it can discourage newcomers from joining."

"The culture you establish defines your organization."

"Those who join are drawn in by some aspect of that culture."

"Standing instead of sitting can help you project energy, but it can be tiring."

"Show empathy to those on the outside and listen closely, especially as your organization grows."

"Facing struggles is essential for growth; without challenges, people may become overwhelmed when difficulties arise."

"Being emotionally intelligent is an invaluable asset—it saves time and prevents harm in challenging situations."

"To develop emotional intelligence, seek strong, genuine feedback from someone who can offer candid advice."

"Investing time in building relationships and trust fosters smooth interactions and eliminates the need for task-oriented shortcuts."

"Leaders who practice cultural humility admit they don't have all the answers. They listen, ask questions, and avoid assumptions."

"Take a moment to pause and reflect on your actions."

"Honor is priceless—it earns you gratitude and respect."

"Embrace diversity and practice empathy." 

"Recognize and appreciate others' perspectives by putting yourself in their shoes."

"Tailor your message to your audience and focus on their needs."

Resources Mentioned

• The Leadership Podcast | theleadershippodcast.com

• Sponsored by | www.darley.com

• Rafti Advisors. LLC | www.raftiadvisors.com

• Self-Reliant Leadership. LLC | selfreliantleadership.com

• Tatiana Kolovou LinkedIn | www.linkedin.com/in/tatianakolovou

• Kelley School of Business Website | www.kelley.iu.edu/faculty-research/

• Tatiana Kolovou Instagram | @kolovou

• Tatiana Kolovou Twitter | @TatianaKolovou

In this episode, Kelly Byrnes from Voyage Consulting Group shares valuable tips about leadership and career growth. She underscores the significance of leaders recognizing their impact on others and the need to cultivate trust within their teams. Kelly also discusses strategies for senior leaders to avoid burnout by staying attuned to their emotions. She advocates for integrating leadership development into daily routines and ensuring personal aspirations align with true happiness. Kelly highlights the crucial role of kindness and respect in workplace success. She provides practical tips for personal growth, such as visualizing your ideal day. Additionally, Kelly conveys that true fulfillment comes from living in accordance with your values, both professionally and personally.

https://bit.ly/TLP-413

Key Takeaways

[02:13] Kelly shares that her love for business started when she was a kid playing with Barbies. Instead of typical weddings, her dolls were busy running the show and setting up shops. Even at eight, she had a job at a nearby store. She also mentions that her passion for business has been there from the start, making her journey pretty cool.

[04:55] Kelly notes that leaders often underestimate their impact on their teams, from their words shaping morale to overlooking trust dynamics. She believes this lack of awareness stems from leaders' focus on business goals and their desire to support their teams, rather than a negative intention. Kelly stresses the importance of self-awareness in leadership, emphasizing it as an ongoing journey to understand one's influence on others. She also highlights the prevalence of burnout among senior leaders, caused by overwhelming workloads and new expectations for emotional support. 

[11:47] Kelly emphasizes using influential psychology books like Cialdini's "Influence" and Kahneman's "Thinking, Fast and Slow" with care and purpose. She advocates for respectful and honorable leadership that balances performance goals with compassionate interactions, avoiding manipulation and burnout. Kelly also believes in setting clear expectations while treating individuals with empathy, fostering high performance without resorting to coercion or excessive coddling.

[16:24] Kelly emphasizes promoting critical thinking skills by challenging individuals to consider alternative perspectives and generate multiple solutions. Instead of simply accepting initial answers, she encourages deeper exploration by asking probing questions like "What about this?"

[18:00] Kelly emphasizes the importance of being mindful of how others perceive you based on your actions and choices, urging deliberate and intentional behavior. She believes that integration is key to successful development initiatives, advocating for programs that are woven into everyday work and aligned with strategic goals. Additionally, she highlights the value of facilitators who have practical experience and can offer both practical guidance and aspirational goals, empowering individuals to aspire to greatness and providing opportunities for growth and challenge.

[21:26] Kelly stresses the importance of understanding individual preferences and needs, highlighting listening as a key leadership skill. She discusses potential updates to her book on professionalism, noting shifts towards emphasis on communication, work-life balance, tech proficiency, and collaboration with diverse teams in the modern workplace.

[23:47] Kelly advises individuals to shift their focus from themselves to others, especially in unfamiliar or high-pressure situations such as boardroom meetings or client interactions. She suggests taking a more understated approach, avoiding the urge to draw attention to oneself and instead focusing on observing and getting to know others. By practicing empathy and understanding others' preferences, individuals can build genuine connections and effectively communicate, following both the golden rule (treating others as you want to be treated) and the platinum rule (treating others as they want to be treated).

[25:58] In her book, "All In and the Five All In Strategies," Kelly advises readers to find joy in the present rather than postponing it for the future. She emphasizes the importance of having a vision for one's life and suggests envisioning an ideal day and considering preferred work activities. Kelly shares an exercise she did in 6th grade of listing 100 life goals, revisiting it annually. By pursuing goals intentionally and embracing challenges, individuals can find fulfillment beyond happiness. Kelly believes that triumph comes from overcoming obstacles and encourages embracing life with courage and optimism for an extraordinary experience.

[37:10] Kelly reflects on her lifelong list of goals, including riding a camel, which she set in 6th grade. Despite growing up in Kansas City, Missouri, where camels aren't common, she seized the opportunity during a volunteer day at the local zoo. Although initially met with skepticism, Kelly's determination led her to assist the camel caretaker, eventually earning her a chance to fulfill her childhood dream. This experience illustrates Kelly's belief in the power of intentionality and perseverance in achieving life goals, whether it's meeting new people or embarking on adventures.

[28:35] Kelly generously offers to share the first half of her "My Fulfilling Life" digital workbook with anyone who emails her. This workbook focuses on visualizing one's life and includes exercises such as listing 100 life goals and identifying personal strengths. Kelly's childhood experience of affirming self-worth influences this workbook, which aims to help individuals create a fulfilling life.

[34:35] And remember, mindfulness is about love and loving life. When you cultivate this love, it gives you clarity and compassion for life, and your actions happen in accordance with that. -Jon Kabat-Zinn

Quotable Quotes

"Culture becomes the worst behavior you tolerate."

"The way you treat people has to be different."

"Leaders underestimate the impact they have on people; their words and moods set the tone for teams."

"People look to leaders for career guidance and inspiration, yet leaders often miss this influence."

"Self-awareness isn't about fixing flaws but understanding our effect on others and regulating responses."

"Don't settle for the first things off the top of your head. Ask 'What else?'"

"Spiritual values influence who you are, what you think, and how you behave."

"Listening is probably the most undervalued skill in leadership."

"It's about understanding what signifies value to each individual, not just imposing one's own perspective."

"Work-life balance is now a priority, with boundaries and scheduling expectations."

"Diversity in teams requires the ability to collaborate with people from varied backgrounds."

"Be deliberate and intentional about what you share and show, as it contributes to how people judge and assess you."

"Look for facilitators who have practical experience and align with your company's needs."

"Be less focused on yourself and more focused on others in professional settings."

"Observe, listen, and get to know others before asserting yourself."

"Don't try to be the center of attention; take it easy and be understated."

"Enjoy life now, rather than constantly putting off happiness for the future."

"Regularly review and refine your life goals to stay intentional and focused."

"Fulfillment comes from pursuing triumphs, not just fleeting moments of happiness."

"Taking risks and embracing challenges lead to a more extraordinary life experience."

"Don't fear life's curveballs; anticipate the greatness that lies beyond them."

This is the book mentioned in our discussion with Kelly:

Resources Mentioned

• The Leadership Podcast | theleadershippodcast.com

• Sponsored by | www.darley.com

• Rafti Advisors. LLC | www.raftiadvisors.com

• Self-Reliant Leadership. LLC | selfreliantleadership.com

• Kelly Byrnes LinkedIn | www.linkedin.com/in/kellytylerbyrnes

• Kelly Byrnes Website | www.voyagecg.com

In this episode, Nick Jain, CEO of IdeaScale, discusses the value of humility, emphasizing that great ideas can originate from anyone at any level. He outlines the idea generation process, highlighting the importance of keeping it simple and inclusive. Nick touches on the role of software in decision-making, recognizing its benefits and the dangers of its misuse. Using practical examples, he explains how effectively implementing customer feedback and maintaining organizational flexibility while adhering to core values are crucial. Additionally, Nick champions inclusivity in generating ideas, advocating for a systematic approach that complements organizational objectives.  

https://bit.ly/TLP-412

Key Takeaways

[02:26] Nick shares that he is active on LinkedIn and has a less active Twitter account, where one can find personal photos including those of themselves, their spouse, and pets. He also shares his primary hobbies, which involve home repairs and his pursuit of becoming a semi-professional poker player. Nick explains the limited utility of card counting in the game compared to blackjack, highlighting the challenges of counting cards in modern casinos with multiple decks. 

[04:01] Nick explains that to make the most of everyone's ideas, leaders need to let go of their ego and be open to using simple tools like paper or technology. He emphasizes that good ideas can come from anyone, not just the boss. From his own experience, Nick shares how he's learned from feedback on his own ideas, even when they didn't work out. He also considers whether leaders struggle because they're afraid of losing control or because they're too proud to admit others might have better ideas. 

[7:10] Nick explains how ideas actually get done. First, someone throws out an idea. Then, everyone chimes in to vote on which ones they like best. Next, Nick, who knows his stuff, helps pick out the winners. And when they start making those ideas happen, if something doesn't quite click, they tweak it until it does. That's how they make sure only the cream of the crop becomes reality.

[09:43] Nick explains that their software helps people make smart decisions about ideas by considering factors like ROI and costs. But he admits that even with good systems, bad actors can sometimes cause problems. He says it's impossible to be perfect, but the goal is to keep mistakes low. For small groups, simple tools like idea boxes work fine, but for big organizations, high-tech solutions are needed. Nick also compares their platform to social media, where seeing others' ideas succeed encourages more participation.

[14:29] Nick shares an example involving a major fast food chain that sought ideas from their global customer base through Ideascale to develop new menu items. They received thousands of ideas, vetted them with in-house experts, and successfully launched new menu items based on customer suggestions. When asked whether this signaled a shift in the business strategy, Nick suggests it was more about adding tactical menu items rather than fundamentally changing the business. He explains that while most customers use Ideascale for tactical problem-solving, some also employ it for strategic decision-making and business plan changes. 

[18:46] Nick reflects on the organization's approach to absorbing feedback from customers, employees, and constituents. While they actively listen to input from all levels, he admits they're not perfect in translating feedback into actionable change without becoming overly reactive. Nick then shifts to discussing the feedback he received when taking over as CEO, acknowledging the need to adjust his leadership style while also staying true to his vision for the organization. He shares the company's journey of adopting a business-oriented approach to running a software business, which initially faced resistance but ultimately proved successful, leading to growth and profitability. 

[23:07] Nick highlights the importance of balancing the goals of buyers with the engagement of end-users in their software development. He stresses the necessity of inclusivity in idea generation, even if it means sifting through impractical suggestions. Nick advocates for a structured approach, defining clear goals and incorporating staging questions to filter ideas based on organizational objectives.

[25:44] Nick discusses the flexibility of their software in managing ideas within organizations, allowing different approaches from conception to execution. He personally advocates for inclusivity, encouraging participation from all members. While AI seeding of ideas hasn't gained much traction, they've successfully implemented AI to improve idea communication, particularly for those who struggle with writing or language barriers.

[31:08] Nick outlines two key evolutions in our industry. Firstly, there's a shift from just innovation to a broader engagement ecosystem, incorporating employee feedback to enhance engagement and retention. Secondly, the technology now spans the entire idea lifecycle, from conception to implementation, including whiteboarding and project management integration. Regarding AI, while I've delved into its algorithms, I wish I had known easier learning methods.

[32:49] Nick reflects on leadership diversity, highlighting his own mathematically oriented style compared to his predecessors. He emphasizes the importance of recognizing different leadership strengths for success. Regarding engagement, he underscores the significance of creating an environment where individuals feel empowered to share their ideas, often missed in hierarchical and bureaucratic organizations. As for the British term "maths," Nick speculates it may stem from the idea that mathematics encompasses multiple disciplines, hence the pluralization.

[36:38] And remember, for good ideas and true innovation, you need human interaction, conflict, argument, debate. - Margaret Heffernan

Quotable Quotes

"Any organization or leader striving to tap into their team's collective intelligence, must be ready to release their ego."

"Acknowledging the brilliance beyond the corner office is crucial for organizational growth."

"Even my own campaigns sometimes falter, teaching me the value of humility in leadership."

"Turning ideas into reality requires multiple essential steps."

"In some respects, perfection is unattainable; however, minimizing errors aligns with organizational objectives."

"Open the floodgates to ideas – diverse, varied, and sometimes contradictory."

"True innovation emerges when we embrace both the diversity of people and ideas in our crowdsourcing efforts."

"It's about striking a delicate balance between what the paying customer wants and what truly excites and engages the end-users."

"Feedback is a journey of adaptation."

"Open the floodgates, let everything come in. There will be good ideas, there will be bad ideas, some will be from diverse people, some will be from non-diverse people. Let everything come in, and good ideas will flow to the top."

"If you can't quantify or define it, then you can't measure it and stick to a framework."

"Foster a culture of idea sharing and collaborative iteration."

"It's really important for organizations to realize that there's bright people with great ideas around the organization."

Resources Mentioned

• The Leadership Podcast | theleadershippodcast.com

• Sponsored by | www.darley.com

• Rafti Advisors. LLC | www.raftiadvisors.com

• Self-Reliant Leadership. LLC | selfreliantleadership.com

• Christiana Smith Shi LinkedIn | www.linkedin.com/in/nickjain

• Nick Jain Website | www.ideascale.com

In this episode, Jim Peters, co-founder and president of Citizen Engineers, shares his leadership experiences and how he leverages AI tools like AssemblyAI and Myaskai to learn from nearly 400 leaders. He recounts how bike trips with his kids imparted valuable leadership lessons. Amid personal challenges, including his wife's diagnosis and his job loss, Jim stresses the significance of downtime and resilience. He applies these insights to his business, emphasizing work-life balance and compassionate leadership. Jim advocates for continuous learning and living a life filled with meaning and compassion in the workplace.

https://bit.ly/TLP-411

Key Takeaways

[02:26] Jim shares that he remembers taking his kids, aged six and eight, on annual bike tours around Washington and Oregon for nearly a decade. These trips, lasting one to two weeks, were full of adventure. One of his standout memories is climbing to Anthony Lakes, where he and his wife let the boys decide if they wanted to push on to the top of the mountain. The boys were enthusiastic, teaching Jim valuable lessons about setting direction, pace, and keeping the experience fun.

[07:02] Jim values taking time off and encourages others to do the same. He treasures memories with his family and has taken three sabbaticals during his career. Jim also learns a lot from podcasts featuring nearly 400 leaders. He mentions that these podcasts help him grow as a leader and improve his emotional intelligence and management skills.

[9:07] Jim shares that he listens to podcasts to learn from experienced leaders and improve his skills. In 2021, he faced a personal challenge when his wife was diagnosed with stage four cancer. This taught him to focus on what he could control, choose gratitude, and live a meaningful life. He took a sabbatical in 2022 to spend time with his wife and reflect on his values. After returning to work, Jim was unexpectedly terminated, which taught him resilience and helped him understand others' experiences. Now, he enjoys his work with his business partner and finds joy in helping others.

[16:00] In 2023, Jim had extra time and used it to dive deeper into podcasts about leadership. He made a list of questions he wanted answers to, like how to measure effective leadership and manage difficult conversations. Jim found taking notes while listening challenging, so he used an AI tool called AssemblyAI to convert podcasts to text. This allowed him to listen faster and copy relevant information. He listened to two podcasts daily, using the AI tool to support his research and learning.

[21:59] Jim mentions that his goal was to become a better leader and human by capturing insights from podcasts. He collected detailed notes and summaries from nearly 400 leaders and wanted to use them to improve himself. Instead of manually going through all the data, Jim decided to use an AI tool called My askAI, which let him upload his data and ask it questions. This AI tool gave him access to responses based solely on the podcast insights he provided, helping him quickly find answers and insights from the podcasts without having to remember which specific episode they came from.

[25:45] Jim uses an AI tool called My askAI to explore his podcast notes and ask questions about leadership. He asks about topics like effective leadership, managing conversations, and tips for new leaders. The tool pulls responses from the nearly 400 leaders he studied. The tool combines podcast texts into documents and sometimes provides shorter answers, but Jim can request longer or simpler explanations. Though not perfect, Jim values the tool's speed and variety of insights. It helps him improve his questioning skills.

[29:30] Jim shares using AI tools. He uses them to research leadership insights from podcasts and in his new business, Citizen Engineers, which he started in 2023. He and his business partner prioritize work-life balance and use AI tools to speed up tasks like writing policies and answering business questions. Jim uses AI tools like ChatGPT, My askAI, and Photoshop for different tasks in his business. He tests various tools and shares his findings on his blog. He mentions that he sees AI as a partner in his work and continues to explore how it can help his business.

[32:42] Jim shares insights from 400 podcasts that shaped his business, emphasizing the importance of putting humans at the center of work. He learned from guests like Donato Tramuto and Dr. Ciela Hartanov that compassion and care for employees are key. Jim noticed that guests often focus on business goals without stressing compassion for employees. As an engineer, Jim initially didn't focus on compassion, but now values it as essential. In his business, Citizen Engineers, compassion is a core value. They aim to create a workplace that supports employees while still running a successful business.

[34:48] Jim initially used AI tools to improve himself as a leader, but he decided to share the benefits with others. He hopes the tool helps people revisit useful insights from podcasts. In his business, Citizen Engineers, Jim focuses on helping others grow in their careers and become compassionate leaders. The company emphasizes compassionate leadership in transportation, believing it's key to delivering positive results for communities and clients.

[37:29] And remember, by three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.- Confucius

Quotable Quotes

"Leadership lessons from biking with young kids: set direction, pace, and tone while keeping it fun."

"We involved our kids in decision-making during bike tours, and it led to unforgettable adventures."

"Traveling with our kids taught us the importance of pacing ourselves and embracing each moment."

"Taking time off for family and sabbaticals is crucial for building lasting memories and personal growth."

"The podcast's interviews with nearly 400 leaders have provided me with invaluable insights on leadership and emotional intelligence."

"Going through personal challenges has taught me resilience, gratitude, and the importance of focusing on what I can control."

"My wife's cancer diagnosis led us to live a 'wide' life focused on giving back and embracing joy."

"Using AI tools helped me explore the podcast's insights more efficiently, allowing me to learn from 400 leaders and apply their lessons."

"Commitment to continuous improvement and a desire to become a better human and leader has driven me to research and capture the wisdom of great leaders."

"AI-assisted research provided me with the ability to ask questions and receive insights from 400 different leaders."

"I did all this work selfishly to become a better leader, and now I'm sharing it to help others find the insights they need to grow as leaders."

"AI is a partner, not an overlord. I'm using it to speed up processes and free up time for deeper, more meaningful work."

"Compassion is at the center of work, and it's our top value at Citizen Engineers."

"Let's bring compassion to the workplace and help others, continually learn, and challenge ourselves to live a wide life."

"Great leadership is about setting clear values, embracing change, and prioritizing human-centered approaches."

"Finding grace for others, just as we find it for AI's growing capabilities, is part of compassionate leadership."

Resources Mentioned

• The Leadership Podcast | theleadershippodcast.com

• Sponsored by | www.darley.com

• Rafti Advisors. LLC | www.raftiadvisors.com

• Self-Reliant Leadership. LLC | selfreliantleadership.com

• Jim Peters LinkedIn | www.linkedin.com/in/jim-peters

• Citizen Engineers Website | www.citizen-engineers.com

In this episode, Christiana Smith Shi, former Nike President of Consumer Direct and author of "Career Forward Strategies from Women Who've Made It," shares insights from her book on adopting a long-term mindset for career planning, rather than focusing solely on short-term objectives. She addresses the specific hurdles younger women encounter at the start of their careers and underscores the need to tackle these challenges to foster gender equality in leadership roles. Christiana differentiates between "fake it till you make it" and impostor syndrome, highlighting the need for confidence alongside acknowledging areas for growth. She offers actionable guidance on job applications, encouraging women to overcome self-doubt and rethink qualifications, and discusses strategies for negotiating salaries and benefits to help close the gender pay gap through evidence-based negotiation.

https://bit.ly/TLP-410

Key Takeaways

[0:19] Christiana shares a surprising aspect of her background – her proficiency in Swedish folk dancing. She talks about her latest book, "Career Forward: Strategies from Women Who've Made It," emphasizing a forward-thinking mindset for long-term career planning. Christiana discusses challenges faced by younger women entering the workforce and shares a real-life success story. 

[08:27] Jan recounts a scenario of career overwhelm, leading to Christiana to talk about the concept of "turning into the skid" for career resilience. Christiana stresses facing challenges, conducting self-assessment, and making informed decisions. She also shares practical advice including time management and navigating the balance between high standards and avoiding perfectionism. 

[13:47] Christiana distinguishes "fake it till you make it" as a confidence-boosting tool for new situations, emphasizing the need for self-awareness and skill development. Christiana discourages the use of impostor syndrome, inviting a rejection of the negative label and embracing learning curves. 

[16:01] Christiana addresses the hesitation women often feel in job applications. Advising a shift in perspective, she encourages a broader interpretation of qualifications. Christiana emphasizes understanding hiring executives' perspectives and reframing qualifications to showcase applicable skills. 

[19:15] Christiana discusses challenges individuals, especially women, face when seeking a raise. Christiana emphasizes a fact-based approach, advocating for documentation of expanded responsibilities and benchmarking compensation. She highlights the importance of timing, considering the company's context, and the need for allies to affirm contributions. 

[25:41] Christiana recounts a defining career moment during partner election at a consulting firm. Faced with work-life balance challenges, the firm encouraged her to propose a solution, resulting in the creation of a successful part-time program. Christiana underscores the impact of assumptions on decision-making, urging individuals to turn assertions into questions and seek feedback from trusted networks to maintain a strategic orientation.

[32:20] Christiana reflects on her distinguished career, highlighting key lessons: taking responsibility and adapting recognition. She shares a pivotal moment of learning to own mistakes and acknowledges leaders who take responsibility for their teams. Transitioning from professional services to industry, she emphasizes the changing currency of recognition and adapting leadership styles to acknowledge efforts across diverse teams. Christiana encourages the value of research, meaningful feedback, and the ability to act on feedback for career growth.

[37:45] Christiana challenged listeners, particularly women in early or middle careers, to set their career GPS. She encourages individuals to define their impact, identify preferred skills, values, culture, and people. The challenge is to commit to deliberate actions each year, moving towards those career goals.

[39:16] And remember, A wise woman wishes to be no one's enemy. A wise woman refuses to be anyone's victim. - Maya Angelou

Quotable Quotes

"Your job is not your career."

"Your career is a journey; think about managing toward that goal as you move ahead."

"Steer into the skid because then you regain control of the car. It's counterintuitive, and it isn't your first instinct, but it is the only way to regain control of the car."

"You're there for a reason, that the people who put you in that position did not make a mistake."

"Fake it till you make it if you need to, but back that up with a plan to fill in the gap so that you get comfortable quickly doing what you're supposed to do."

"Impostor syndrome is a negative downward spiral. It is actually labeling yourself as not belonging where you are, as not being qualified to do what it is that you're there to do."

"For women, there is this reluctance to appear toot your own horn. All those things. And I can't tell you how many times I've said to women, "You are nowhere near being self-promotional. You need allies. You need sponsors. You need mentors. And those people, when you're not in the room, can also be the ones that are making sure that a light gets shown on your accomplishments."

"Having a little bit of a ratification coming in from others is also super helpful."

"I value leaders who take responsibility. If you screw up, you move on to the next thing and the reward is you're getting more money, you're getting promoted, you're moving on."

"Learning that the currency of recognition had changed and adapting my style so that I acknowledged effort, impact, and results across a much bigger population of employees than I had ever dealt with."

"Take responsibility for things; you're also taking responsibility for fixing them. That way you're not going to leave or abandon or dump the team that screwed up."

"Hold yourself accountable every year to thinking about specific actions that you want to commit to yourself that you will take over the next year to continue to move yourself toward that career goal."

Here are the books mentioned in this episode

Resources Mentioned

• The Leadership Podcast | theleadershippodcast.com

• Sponsored by | www.darley.com

• Rafti Advisors. LLC | www.raftiadvisors.com

• Self-Reliant Leadership. LLC | selfreliantleadership.com

• Christiana Smith Shi LinkedIn | www.linkedin.com/in/csshi

In this episode, Rick Tocquigny, a distinguished mentor, founder, and the voice behind the "Success Made to Last" podcast, as well as an accomplished author and Pulitzer Prize finalist, delves into the profound realization that serving others holds greater significance than mere personal success. This insight became particularly poignant following the loss of close family members. Rick places high value on asking meaningful questions and sharing narratives of resilience. He underscores the critical role of passing down life lessons to preserve family histories, drawing on examples like his mother's experiences during World War II. Furthermore, Rick highlights the imperative for startup leaders to align their actions with their core values from the outset, ensuring cohesion and adherence to these principles, especially in financially challenging times. He also sheds light on the importance of collaboration and strategic planning in the early stages of a startup, asserting that while monetary concerns are paramount initially, the synergy of a united team is equally crucial for success.

https://bit.ly/TLP-409

Key Takeaways:

[04:52] Rick shares that he started caring more about helping others after losing some important people in his life. He realized that making a real difference is more important than just being successful. Helping others and leaving a good impact became his main goal, even if it's not noticed by everyone. Rick also believes that it's all about making the world a better place, no matter what happens.

[11:11] He mentions that he appreciates a thought-provoking question and discusses the significance of curiosity and deep questioning. Rick also highlights that he finds inspiration in stories like "My Side of the Mountain" that explore survival and self-discovery. Drawing from their time at Procter & Gamble, he stresses the importance of asking insightful questions to uncover meaningful stories. 

[16:22] Rick explains that his project of sharing life lessons began after losing his parents in 2003 and 2005. He realized the importance of preserving family stories, like their mom's experience in World War II, which inspired him to encourage others to do the same. While some veterans might be hesitant due to PTSD, Rick urges people to record stories for future generations, even if it means ensuring accuracy by gathering facts. 

[19:16] He shares a touching story from his book about a teacher in Arkansas who rearranged her classroom, leaving her students confused. Eventually, she revealed that the desks and chairs were provided by veterans. This gesture was a powerful reminder of the sacrifices made by veterans for the freedom enjoyed every day. Rick then emphasizes the importance of honoring and remembering the contributions of veterans and their families.

[23:54] Rick explains that if an organization's core values don't align with its strategic direction, they won't contribute to success. He also mentions the importance of integrating core values into daily operations and decision-making processes. Without this integration, core values can seem superficial and meaningless. Furthermore, if employees don't believe in the core values, they won't influence behavior or contribute to the strategy. 

[26:40] He reflects on leadership in startup environments, emphasizing the importance of aligning core values from the beginning. Rick stresses the need for leaders to exemplify collaboration and alignment with core values, especially in startup scenarios where resources may be limited. He suggests that podcasts should focus on speaking to entrepreneurs starting their own businesses rather than Fortune 500 executives, as these individuals are navigating the real-world challenges of building a company from the ground up. Rick also highlights the significance of strategy and culture in shaping the success of a startup, noting that while culture is important, practical concerns like making payroll take precedence in the early stages of business development.

[32:48] Rick expresses gratitude for his mentors who have influenced his understanding of success and significance. He mentions Preston Paddon, known for his role in negotiating the NFL contract with Fox, who taught them the importance of resilience and rolling with rejection. Finally, Rick highlights Frank Blake, former CEO of Home Depot, who shared a valuable lesson about aligning personal interests, skills, and market demand to guide career choices. He also emphasizes the significance of considering passion, proficiency, and market demand in career decisions.

[31:20] He talks about how everyone feels lonely sometimes and wishes for deeper connections with others. Rick mentions that despite success, many people feel something is missing or have regrets about not spending enough time with loved ones. He also notes that everyone has their own struggles and imperfections, and some people spend a lot of time trying to be perfect in their careers, without success. He says that societal pressures, like those seen on LinkedIn, can add to feelings of inadequacy. Rick then suggests being more understanding of others' struggles instead of expecting perfection.

[33:05] Rick reflects on the misconception that retirees simply party a lot, suggesting instead that they often uphold traditional family values, faith, and patriotism. He shares a personal regret about moving away from their parents to pursue a career opportunity with PepsiCo, realizing in hindsight that they sacrificed valuable time with their young children and missed out on the support of his parents. Rick expresses regret for prioritizing career ambition over family connections, and wishes he had made a different choice.

[35:17] He encourages others to prioritize listening and collaboration in their relationships, following the ratio of two ears to one mouth. Rick emphasizes the importance of embracing collaboration to maximize everyone's skills, echoing advice from their mentor. He advocates for approaching life with a mindset of "spontaneous structure," balancing structure with spontaneity to engage in meaningful conversations and experiences. Rick also urges people to seize opportunities, even if it means taking risks or facing challenges, and to prioritize making a positive impact on both themselves and others.

[46:17] Closing Quote: Remember, a human being would certainly not grow to be 70 or 80 years old if this longevity had no meaning for the species. The afternoon of human life must also have a significance of its own and cannot be merely a pitiful appendage to life's morning. -Carl Jung

Quotable Quotes:

"Success is commonly associated with reaching a high level of wealth and often status, a self-centered role."

"Significance is about making a positive difference, leaving a legacy, and contributing to the betterment of society."

"Don't expect anybody to say thank you to you."

"It's about giving back without anybody noticing and just feeling good about it and doing something for somebody else."

"Giving your time and effort to others actually has a positive physical effect on you."

"Everybody can get more when they give."

"The audience is the hero."

"You just have to get to that wisdom within a person or their personal experience."

"Take the time to ask these people before they're gone about their stories."

"Record history in a fun and factual manner."

"Keep the history of your families going."

"Get as many of the facts in as possible."

"Walk the talk yourself first as a collaborator and a person who leads alignment."

"We are all broken people, and we are all on this personal journey and odyssey."

"Some people wander through life like the mountain lion by your house who doesn't know exactly where he's going, but he needs his next meal."

"People need people and they need friends."

"Take more time for friends and family; less time for work."

"Everybody is a sinner, so no one's perfect."

"Approach any relationship as a collaboration and how you can get the best out of everyone's skill set."

"Roll with it, have more fun, laugh more, and consider structuring your life under this kind of new way of doing things."

"You got one life to live. Go live it and have fun and go make a difference for yourself, but make a difference for others first."

These are the books mentioned in our discussion with Rick:

Resources Mentioned:

• The Leadership Podcast | theleadershippodcast.com

• Sponsored by | www.darley.com

• Rafti Advisors. LLC | www.raftiadvisors.com

• Self-Reliant Leadership. LLC | selfreliantleadership.com

• Rick Tocquigny LinkedIn | www.linkedin.com/rick

• Success Made to Last Website | www.successmadetolast.com

• Robert Hargrove Website | www.myfirst100days.net

• Success Made to Last Instagram | @successmade2last

• Success Made to Last Twitter | @successtolast