The Latch Revolution is a straight-talking lactation podcast for midwives, IBCLCs & doulas. Join Katie James & Johanna Sargeant as we explore our real-life breastfeeding practice—no holding back, saying it like it is, sharing the tips and pivots that got us through, the debates in our heads and hearts, and the odd topic that might get some knickers in a twist. If you live this work with passion and heart, this is for you. Follow and catch every drop.
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Katie James (RM, IBCLC) and Johanna Sargeant (IBCLC) have spent years in the clinic and the classroom seeing the same thing: families and professionals drowning in mixed messages. This podcast is their antidote—evidence with warmth, practice with heart, and just enough cheek to keep you listening.
Why we’re starting this podcast
Because lactation isn’t a “method,” it’s a living system—hormones, emotions, culture, logistics. We’re here to translate research into real-world care, share honest stories from practice, and make complicated things feel simple enough to use tomorrow.
What might be landing in your ears each episode
A grounded conversation that cuts through the noise
A quick “myth check” to retire tired advice
A tiny dose of nervous-system kindness (hello breath, voice, and calm)
Who it’s for
Midwives, doulas, IBCLCs, breastfeeding peer supporters—and any mum or new parent who likes their support shame-free, and human.
How to ride with us
Tap Follow so the first full episode drops straight into your feed. Share the trailer with a colleague who “doesn’t have time for another course” but loves learning on the go. Want deeper support? Head to TheLatchRevolution.com.
Flat Nipples, Feeding Challenges & Why Most Babies Don’t Mind -Ep1
Season 1
Wednesday, October 1, 2025 • Duration 29:00
Flat Nipples, Feeding Challenges & Why Most Babies Don’t Mind
Are flat nipples a breastfeeding problem? Not always.
In fact, for many mothers, it’s not a problem at all — until someone tells them it is. In this myth-busting, practical, and warm-hearted episode of The Latch Revolution, Katie and Johanna unpack:
• What flat and inverted nipples actually are (and what they’re not)
• Why some babies latch just fine — and others may need more support
• The problem with how “flat nipples” are diagnosed and discussed
• When shaping techniques, flipple, or shields may help
• The critical importance of confidence, time, and language
• Tools like syringe pullers or suction devices — do they work?
This is a must-listen for anyone working with passion in the infant feeding field, and new mums alike — full of laughter, lived experience, and a refusal to reduce breastfeeding to nipple shape alone.
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Head to The Latch Revolution to learn more about our course Decoding The Suck: Gentle support for Babies With Sucking Difficulties.
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Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.
The Oversupply Trap: The Truth About Silicone Pumps -Ep2
Season 1
Wednesday, October 15, 2025 • Duration 31:00
In this episode, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant explore the rise of silicone milk catchers (passive pumps) — those popular “milk-saving” gadgets showing up in baby showers and new-mum starter kits. They unpack how these tools work, why so many of us 'love' them, and the hidden risks that can quietly tip a normal milk supply into oversupply. Through real clinical experience and stories from their work with thousands of families, they explain what’s really happening in the breast, how oversupply impacts both mother and baby, and what to look out for before adding a milk catcher to a breastfeeding experience. It’s an honest, research-informed conversation that balances science with empathy — and offers practical, judgment-free guidance for both mums, parents and professionals. Takeaways Silicone milk catchers can help collect milk, but they also apply some vacuum pressure. Early use may disrupt natural supply regulation and lead to oversupply. Oversupply can cause feeding difficulties, inflammation, and stress for both mother and baby. Breastfeeding is a relationship — not just a method of milk transfer. Waiting until around six to seven weeks postpartum allows milk supply to stabilise naturally. Not every mum needs a milk catcher; support should be individualised. Real success comes from informed, flexible feeding — not gadgets or rigid rules. Chapters 00:00 – What exactly is a silicone milk catcher? 04:30 – How they became so popular 07:15 – Oversupply explained: the physiology behind it 12:45 – The emotional toll of oversupply on mothers and babies 18:00 – When and how these tools can be helpful 23:10 – Our take-home advice: timing, awareness, and support Keywords silicone milk catcher, silicone pump, silicone passive pump, breastfeeding, oversupply, milk supply, lactation, breastfeeding tools, milk storage, breastfeeding education, new mothers, lactation consultant, postpartum care, feeding challenges, parenting, mothering, postpartum, baby
The Triple Feeding Spiral — When “Doing It All” Breaks Everyone Down - Ep3
Season 1
Thursday, October 30, 2025 • Duration 45:17
Katie James and Johanna Sargeant, IBCLC's dive into one of the most exhausting feeding regimes out there: triple feeding — breastfeeding, pumping, and topping up.
They unpack why so many mums are leaving hospital with these plans, how birth interventions and early weight-loss anxiety often set them up, and what happens when “a few days of help” turns into weeks of burnout.
From hospital protocols to social-media pressure, they explore how triple feeding starts, why it’s meant to be temporary, and the five-day rule that can save sanity and protect breastfeeding.
This conversation is part rant, part rescue plan — grounded in physiology, empathy, and hard-earned experience.
Takeaways
• Triple feeding means breastfeeding + pumping + supplementing.
• It’s designed as a short-term intervention — not a lifestyle.
• Prolonged triple feeding often leads to exhaustion, anxiety, and milk-supply confusion.
• Many mums begin this regime unnecessarily after early weight checks or birth interventions.
• Clinicians must always plan how and when to stop triple feeding before starting it.
• The “five-day rule”: if milk supply and baby’s feeding haven’t improved, change strategy.
• Support plans should include who’s caring for the mother — not just the baby.
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Losing Weight, Gaining Insight: The Truth About Newborn Weight Changes - Ep4
Season 1
Wednesday, November 12, 2025 • Duration 46:24
In this episode, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant unpack the myths and panic surrounding newborn weight gain and loss.
They discuss normal physiological weight loss, how over-frequent weighing fuels anxiety, and why nappies (diapers) reveal more than the scales.
You’ll learn how to interpret percentage loss correctly, when to act, and how IV fluids, birth interventions, and feeding frequency all play into the picture.
Takeaways:
• Most babies lose 7–8% of their birth weight — and that’s normal.
• Over-weighing increases anxiety and confusion for parents.
• Pee and poo output is a more reliable early indicator of milk intake.
• IV fluids during labour may be falsely inflating birth weight.
• Look at the whole clinical picture — not just the number.
• Healthy feeding plans require nuance, not one-size-fits-all charts.
The information in this podcast is for educational purposes only and is not a substitute for personal medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek guidance from your doctor, midwife, lactation consultant, or another qualified health professional regarding your own health or your baby’s care. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant share insights from clinical experience and current research but do not provide personalised medical care through this podcast.
Foremilk vs Hindmilk: The Myth That Won’t Die- Ep5
Season 1
Wednesday, November 26, 2025 • Duration 37:21
In this episode, Katie and Johanna pull apart the confusion around foremilk and hindmilk.
They talk about how mums are told there’s “watery” milk and “fatty” milk, why it feels like there are three or five different milks once you add colostrum, transitional milk and mature milk into the mix, and how this has made feeding feel far more scientific than it needs to be.
They explore fat globules sticking to the “bunch of grapes” inside the breast, the hot water tap analogy, different milk ejection reflex patterns, the famous six-minute feeder, high sugar milk in oversupply, explosive green “bubble bath” poo, unsettled but thriving babies, and why you can never truly “empty” a breast.
Throughout, they keep coming back to the same theme: nuance – and actually reading the baby, not just the rules.
Takeaways
• There is one milk that changes – not separate “watery” and “good” milks.
• Fat globules stick inside the “bunch of grapes” and are released gradually.
• The hot water tap is a useful way to picture how milk fat changes during and between feeds.
• Different mums have different milk ejection reflex patterns; some give most of their milk in the first few minutes.
• Some babies are six-minute, one-side feeders and still completely satisfied; others take both breasts and longer feeds.
• High sugar milk in oversupply can lead to a very full, thriving but grumbly baby with lots of gas and explosive green, bubbly poo.
• We can’t fully empty a breast – babies remove around two-thirds, and some milk always remains.
• Old rules like “20 minutes on the left and 20 on the right” don’t fit every mum or every breast.
Beyond ‘Perceived Low Supply’: Listening Before We Fix - Ep 6
Season 1
Wednesday, December 10, 2025 • Duration 32:20
Low milk supply is one of the biggest trigger topics in breastfeeding — and in this episode, Katie and Johanna sit with the rage, grief and nuance that surround it.
Joh shares why she has avoided this topic for so long because low milk supply is her own story. Together they unpack how the phrase “perceived low milk supply” can humiliate mums, undermine instinct and become a barrier to help.
They explore how often a new mum has to justify her pain before anyone will support her — whether that’s in online groups, clinics, or emergency departments where unsettled babies are checked, labelled “well”, and the mother’s worry is dismissed.
They talk through what they actually look at when low supply is on the table: how the breasts feel between feeds, whether a mum ever feels full, what she notices during a feed, whether she hears swallows, and the story of when her milk came in. They bring nuance from later-postpartum mums around 9–10 weeks, who suddenly feel “empty”, stop leaking and stop feeling letdowns — even while their baby is swallowing happily. And as always they keep circling back to counselling skills: pausing, asking open questions, letting mums talk, watching a feed together and helping her see what’s really happening.
They discuss weight gain as a trend, nappy output as a key sign of intake, and why believing mums — rather than forcing them to defend themselves — is the foundation for any plan.
This is not a list of causes and fixes. It’s a deep dive into trust, listening, and the emotional reality of low supply for breastfeeding mums and the professionals who support them.
Takeaways
Why the term “perceived low milk supply” can feel humiliating and dismissive to mums.
How online forums and some services make women justify their pain before offering help.
Re-lactation, Induced Lactation & The Myths We’re Seeing Online - Ep 7
Season 1
Friday, January 9, 2026 • Duration 22:52
Re-lactation is everywhere in the media right now — and in this episode, Katie and Joh slow the conversation down.
They talk through what re-lactation actually is, who it’s most likely to work for, and why a woman’s early breastfeeding history matters far more than social media makes it seem.
Katie describes scenarios where a breastfeeding mum has built and maintained a full milk supply, stopped feeding, and later wants to bring breast milk back into her baby’s life — and why, in those cases, re-lactation can be very achievable. They contrast this with situations where a mum never reached a full milk supply in the early weeks, and why restarting later may still be possible, but with different expectations.
Joh shares real-world stories, including working with a woman whose milk supply was medically suppressed during a vulnerable postpartum period, and the importance of first holding space before talking protocols. Together, they emphasise how re-lactation is intensive work, similar in effort to triple feeding, and why sustainability, mental health and daily life must be part of the conversation.
The episode also explores goals beyond milk volume — including feeding at the breast, comfort, connection and at-breast supplementation. They discuss how even small amounts of milk, or feeding at the breast with additional milk, can be deeply meaningful for some mothers.
Finally, they clearly distinguish re-lactation from induced lactation, explaining when induced lactation might be considered, what it involves at a high level, and why these two processes should not be lumped together.
Throughout, the focus remains on nuance, realistic expectations, and listening carefully to what each mother actually wants.
Key Takeaways:
Relactation outcomes depend heavily on what happened in the first 2–4 weeks postpartum.
Women who built and maintained a full milk supply before stopping often have the clearest path back to milk production.
Can Breastfeeding Mums Eat Anything? Food Rules, Cabbage, Spice and Why We’re Overthinking It - Ep 8
Season 1
Thursday, January 22, 2026 • Duration 30:12
We nearly didn’t record this episode because breastfeeding and nutrition is a topic loaded with pressure, strong opinions, and a lot of misinformation.
But after an Instagram comment asked us to cover it, we realised this conversation is exactly what many breastfeeding mums and clinicians need: less perfection, more realism, and a lot more nuance.
Katie shares a vivid early-midwife memory of breastfeeding leaflets paired with food pyramids and impossible expectations, and Joh describes the common end-of-consult question: “What should I eat?”
Often it comes with a long list of foods a mum has been told to avoid — brassicas, onion, legumes, spicy food, dairy, gluten, eggs, caffeine, alcohol, fizzy drinks — until it feels like there’s nothing left.
We talk about why, for most breastfeeding mums, the most helpful message is simple: you should be able to eat everything, unless you have a diagnosed medical condition and specialist support.
We explore the difference between “ideal,” “optimal,” “good,” and “okay,” and why removing foods based on fear can cause guilt, anxiety, and unnecessary restriction in a vulnerable postpartum period.
We also unpack common myths: the assumption that “gassy foods” or fizzy drinks create unsettled babies, and how sleep deprivation plus repeated advice can lead mums to blame themselves for normal baby behaviour.
Katie and Joh discuss cultural patterns around postpartum foods and how many traditional recommendations have the same themes: calorie-rich, nutrient-dense, comforting, and nurturing.
Finally, we talk about calories and diet culture postpartum. Making milk requires fuel, and severe restriction can become risky, especially when anxiety or OCD shows up as control of food intake.
The thread that runs through the whole episode is clinical reality: meet the mum where she is, support her capacity, and choose advice that reduces pressure rather than adding to it.
Breastfeeding Pain: What’s Normal, What’s Not, and Why Words Matter - Ep 9
Season 1
Thursday, February 5, 2026 • Duration 44:33
Breastfeeding pain is one of the most common reasons mums stop feeding — yet many are never given the language to describe what they’re feeling.
In this episode of The Latch Revolution, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant unpack breastfeeding pain with nuance, practicality, and honesty.
Breastfeeding pain is often talked about in extremes: either it’s “normal, push through,” or “it should never hurt.” In this conversation, Katie and Joh slow the topic down and help differentiate between normal, stretchy discomfort and pain that signals injury or a deeper feeding issue.
They talk about why pain often peaks in the early days, what ongoing pain is telling us, and how positioning choices — particularly upright feeding with firm pillows — can contribute to shallow attachment and nipple damage. The episode also explores laid-back feeding, why it supports baby reflexes and maternal comfort, and why it still isn’t taught routinely despite decades of discussion.
A key theme throughout is observation. Rather than focusing only on the breastfeeding, Katie and Joh discuss watching the whole mum — posture, breathing, hands, shoulders, voice, and tension — and how these cues give vital information about what’s really happening during a feed.
This episode is about giving mums and lactation supporters better language, clearer guidance, and confidence to know when to seek help — without guilt or dismissal.
In this episode, we cover:
Why breastfeeding pain isn’t one thing and needs better language
The difference between normal stretchy discomfort and injury pain
Why the belief that breastfeeding should never hurt is unhelpful
When pain typically peaks in the early days
Signs that pain needs further assessment
How positioning and pillows affect attachment and comfort
Why laid-back feeding supports deeper attachment
What observing the whole mum can tell us about pain
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The information in this podcast is for educational purposes only and is not a substitute for individual medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek guidance from your doctor, midwife, lactation consultant, or another qualified health professional regarding your own health or your baby’s care. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant share insights from clinical experience and current research but do not provide personalised medical care through this podcast.
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Keywords: foremilk, hindmilk, watery milk, high sugar milk, fatty milk, oversupply, unsettled baby, reflux, explosive green poo, bubble bath poo, milk ejection reflex, six-minute feeder, 20 minutes each side, bunch of grapes, hot water tap, storage capacity, breastfeeding class, new mum confusion
Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.
What we looks at when low supply is suspected: breast fullness patterns, swallows, history of milk coming in, and baby’s nappies and weight trend.
Why many mums around 9–10 weeks panic that their milk has “disappeared” when breasts regulate and stop feeling full or leaky.
How open questions, silence, and watching a feed together help mums rebuild trust in their own perception.
Why partners’ emotional support and whole-family dynamics matter when low supply worry has been simmering for weeks.
Keywords low milk supply, perceived low milk supply, low supply anxiety, breastfeeding worry, new mum support, nappies and weight gain, breastfeeding consult, counselling skills, lactation consultant, IBCLC, emergency visit crying baby, nine weeks postpartum, breast fullness, leaking stopping, letdown sensations, partner support, believing mums
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Women who never reached a full supply may still relactate, but expectations need careful, honest discussion.
Relactation is intensive and demanding, similar in workload to triple feeding.
Goals may be about connection and feeding at the breast, not just milk volume.
At-breast supplementation can be a valuable option many mums have never been told about.
Relactation and induced lactation are different processes and should not be confused.
Sitting with the mum, understanding her life, and exploring what feels sustainable is essential.
Keywords:
relactation, induced lactation, breastfeeding after stopping, milk supply restart, breastfeeding goals, at-breast supplementation, breastfeeding support, lactation physiology, realistic breastfeeding expectations, feeding at the breast
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Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.
Key Takeaways:
• Many breastfeeding mums are told to avoid long lists of foods, leaving them restricted, stressed, and hungry.
• For most mums, the simplest helpful message is that they should be able to eat everything, unless a diagnosed medical condition is involved with specialist support.
• Postpartum food advice should reduce pressure, not add guilt or anxiety.
• What often matters most is adequate calorie intake and practical nourishment during an intense period of life.
• “Ideal” nutrition and “what is possible right now” are not the same thing — flexibility matters.
• The idea that foods like cabbage, onion, legumes, or fizzy drinks automatically cause unsettled babies is often assumed and then self-blamed when a baby has a hard night.
• Many cultural postpartum food traditions share common themes: calorie-rich, nutrient-dense, comforting, and nurturing.
• Diet culture postpartum can collide with the demands of making milk, and restrictive control of food can spiral in an already vulnerable period.
• Good clinical care includes meeting the mum where she is, understanding capacity, and supporting mental health alongside feeding.
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Head to thelatchrevolution.com to learn more about our latest "baby": Decoding The Suck: Gentle support for Babies With Sucking Difficulties.
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Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.
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