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The Latch Revolution Begins — Trailer24 Sep 202500:05:44

Two clinicians. One mission. Zero fluff.

Katie James (RM, IBCLC) and Johanna Sargeant (IBCLC) have spent years in the clinic and the classroom seeing the same thing: families and professionals drowning in mixed messages. This podcast is their antidote—evidence with warmth, practice with heart, and just enough cheek to keep you listening.

 

Why we’re starting this podcast

Because lactation isn’t a “method,” it’s a living system—hormones, emotions, culture, logistics. We’re here to translate research into real-world care, share honest stories from practice, and make complicated things feel simple enough to use tomorrow.

What might be landing in your ears each episode

  • A grounded conversation that cuts through the noise

  • A quick “myth check” to retire tired advice

  • A tiny dose of nervous-system kindness (hello breath, voice, and calm)

 

Who it’s for

Midwives, doulas, IBCLCs, breastfeeding peer supporters—and any mum or new parent who likes their support shame-free, and human.

 

How to ride with us

Tap Follow so the first full episode drops straight into your feed. Share the trailer with a colleague who “doesn’t have time for another course” but loves learning on the go. Want deeper support? Head to TheLatchRevolution.com.

Flat Nipples, Feeding Challenges & Why Most Babies Don’t Mind -Ep1 01 Oct 202500:29:00

Flat Nipples, Feeding Challenges & Why Most Babies Don’t Mind

Are flat nipples a breastfeeding problem? Not always.

In fact, for many mothers, it’s not a problem at all — until someone tells them it is. In this myth-busting, practical, and warm-hearted episode of The Latch Revolution, Katie and Johanna unpack:

• What flat and inverted nipples actually are (and what they’re not)

• Why some babies latch just fine — and others may need more support

• The problem with how “flat nipples” are diagnosed and discussed

• When shaping techniques, flipple, or shields may help

• The critical importance of confidence, time, and language

• Tools like syringe pullers or suction devices — do they work?

This is a must-listen for anyone working with passion in the infant feeding field, and new mums alike — full of laughter, lived experience, and a refusal to reduce breastfeeding to nipple shape alone.

Want to go deeper?

Head to The Latch Revolution to learn more about our course Decoding The Suck: Gentle support for Babies With Sucking Difficulties.

And for more courses, guides, and resources for supporting effective infant feeding for both professionals, mums-to-be and new parents head over to Katie James' website

Share this with someone who’s ever worried about “flat nipples.” You might just change their story.

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Disclaimer:
The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.

The Oversupply Trap: The Truth About Silicone Pumps -Ep215 Oct 202500:31:00

In this episode, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant explore the rise of silicone milk catchers (passive pumps) — those popular “milk-saving” gadgets showing up in baby showers and new-mum starter kits. They unpack how these tools work, why so many of us 'love' them, and the hidden risks that can quietly tip a normal milk supply into oversupply. Through real clinical experience and stories from their work with thousands of families, they explain what’s really happening in the breast, how oversupply impacts both mother and baby, and what to look out for before adding a milk catcher to a breastfeeding experience. It’s an honest, research-informed conversation that balances science with empathy — and offers practical, judgment-free guidance for both mums, parents and professionals. Takeaways Silicone milk catchers can help collect milk, but they also apply some vacuum pressure. Early use may disrupt natural supply regulation and lead to oversupply. Oversupply can cause feeding difficulties, inflammation, and stress for both mother and baby. Breastfeeding is a relationship — not just a method of milk transfer. Waiting until around six to seven weeks postpartum allows milk supply to stabilise naturally. Not every mum needs a milk catcher; support should be individualised. Real success comes from informed, flexible feeding — not gadgets or rigid rules. Chapters 00:00 – What exactly is a silicone milk catcher? 04:30 – How they became so popular 07:15 – Oversupply explained: the physiology behind it 12:45 – The emotional toll of oversupply on mothers and babies 18:00 – When and how these tools can be helpful 23:10 – Our take-home advice: timing, awareness, and support Keywords silicone milk catcher, silicone pump, silicone passive pump, breastfeeding, oversupply, milk supply, lactation, breastfeeding tools, milk storage, breastfeeding education, new mothers, lactation consultant, postpartum care, feeding challenges, parenting, mothering, postpartum, baby

The Triple Feeding Spiral — When “Doing It All” Breaks Everyone Down - Ep330 Oct 202500:45:17

Katie James and Johanna Sargeant, IBCLC's dive into one of the most exhausting feeding regimes out there: triple feeding — breastfeeding, pumping, and topping up.

They unpack why so many mums are leaving hospital with these plans, how birth interventions and early weight-loss anxiety often set them up, and what happens when “a few days of help” turns into weeks of burnout.

From hospital protocols to social-media pressure, they explore how triple feeding starts, why it’s meant to be temporary, and the five-day rule that can save sanity and protect breastfeeding.

This conversation is part rant, part rescue plan — grounded in physiology, empathy, and hard-earned experience.

Takeaways

• Triple feeding means breastfeeding + pumping + supplementing.

• It’s designed as a short-term intervention — not a lifestyle.

• Prolonged triple feeding often leads to exhaustion, anxiety, and milk-supply confusion.

• Many mums begin this regime unnecessarily after early weight checks or birth interventions.

• Clinicians must always plan how and when to stop triple feeding before starting it.

• The “five-day rule”: if milk supply and baby’s feeding haven’t improved, change strategy.

• Support plans should include who’s caring for the mother — not just the baby.

For more evidence-based education and resources, visit:

🎓 For professionals: Breastfeeding & Lactation: The Fundamentals

🧠 For advanced professional learning: Decoding the Suck: Gentle Support For Babies with Sucking Difficulties

🛋️ For during pregnancy and new motherhood: The Feeding Couch

 

📸 Follow Katie on Instagram: @katiejameslactation

▶️ Watch full episodes on YouTube: The Latch Revolution

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Medical Disclaimer

The information in this podcast is for educational purposes only and is not a substitute for individual medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek guidance from your doctor, midwife, lactation consultant, or another qualified health professional regarding your own health or your baby’s care. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant share insights from clinical experience and current research but do not provide personalised medical care through this podcast.

Losing Weight, Gaining Insight: The Truth About Newborn Weight Changes - Ep412 Nov 202500:46:24

In this episode, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant unpack the myths and panic surrounding newborn weight gain and loss.

They discuss normal physiological weight loss, how over-frequent weighing fuels anxiety, and why nappies (diapers) reveal more than the scales.

You’ll learn how to interpret percentage loss correctly, when to act, and how IV fluids, birth interventions, and feeding frequency all play into the picture.

Takeaways:

• Most babies lose 7–8% of their birth weight — and that’s normal.

• Over-weighing increases anxiety and confusion for parents.

• Pee and poo output is a more reliable early indicator of milk intake.

• IV fluids during labour may be falsely inflating birth weight.

• Look at the whole clinical picture — not just the number.

• Healthy feeding plans require nuance, not one-size-fits-all charts. 

The information in this podcast is for educational purposes only and is not a substitute for personal medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek guidance from your doctor, midwife, lactation consultant, or another qualified health professional regarding your own health or your baby’s care. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant share insights from clinical experience and current research but do not provide personalised medical care through this podcast.

Explore more education: 🌐 katiejames.site 🎓 Breastfeeding & Lactation: The Fundamentals 🛋️ The Feeding Couch 🧠 Decoding the Suck 📸 @katiejameslactation ▶️ YouTube: The Latch Revolution

Keywords: newborn weight loss, baby weight gain, breastfeeding, milk intake, infant growth, postpartum care, IV fluids, lactation consultant, midwife, baby scales, feeding plan, nappies, milk transfer

Foremilk vs Hindmilk: The Myth That Won’t Die- Ep526 Nov 202500:37:21

In this episode, Katie and Johanna pull apart the confusion around foremilk and hindmilk.

They talk about how mums are told there’s “watery” milk and “fatty” milk, why it feels like there are three or five different milks once you add colostrum, transitional milk and mature milk into the mix, and how this has made feeding feel far more scientific than it needs to be. 

They explore fat globules sticking to the “bunch of grapes” inside the breast, the hot water tap analogy, different milk ejection reflex patterns, the famous six-minute feeder, high sugar milk in oversupply, explosive green “bubble bath” poo, unsettled but thriving babies, and why you can never truly “empty” a breast.

Throughout, they keep coming back to the same theme: nuance – and actually reading the baby, not just the rules.

Takeaways 

• There is one milk that changes – not separate “watery” and “good” milks. 

• Fat globules stick inside the “bunch of grapes” and are released gradually. 

• The hot water tap is a useful way to picture how milk fat changes during and between feeds. 

• Different mums have different milk ejection reflex patterns; some give most of their milk in the first few minutes. 

• Some babies are six-minute, one-side feeders and still completely satisfied; others take both breasts and longer feeds. 

• High sugar milk in oversupply can lead to a very full, thriving but grumbly baby with lots of gas and explosive green, bubbly poo. 

 • We can’t fully empty a breast – babies remove around two-thirds, and some milk always remains. 

• Old rules like “20 minutes on the left and 20 on the right” don’t fit every mum or every breast.

 

Want to go deeper? 

Head to The Latch Revolution to learn more about our course Decoding The Suck: Gentle support for Babies With Sucking Difficulties. 

🌐 katiejames.site

🎓 Breastfeeding & Lactation: The Fundamentals 

🛋️ The Feeding Couch 

🧠 Decoding the Suck 

 📸 @katiejameslactation 

▶️ YouTube: The Latch Revolution 

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Keywords: foremilk, hindmilk, watery milk, high sugar milk, fatty milk, oversupply, unsettled baby, reflux, explosive green poo, bubble bath poo, milk ejection reflex, six-minute feeder, 20 minutes each side, bunch of grapes, hot water tap, storage capacity, breastfeeding class, new mum confusion

 

Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.

 

Beyond ‘Perceived Low Supply’: Listening Before We Fix - Ep 610 Dec 202500:32:20

Low milk supply is one of the biggest trigger topics in breastfeeding — and in this episode, Katie and Johanna sit with the rage, grief and nuance that surround it. 

 

Joh shares why she has avoided this topic for so long because low milk supply is her own story. Together they unpack how the phrase “perceived low milk supply” can humiliate mums, undermine instinct and become a barrier to help.  

 

They explore how often a new mum has to justify her pain before anyone will support her — whether that’s in online groups, clinics, or emergency departments where unsettled babies are checked, labelled “well”, and the mother’s worry is dismissed.  

 

They talk through what they actually look at when low supply is on the table: how the breasts feel between feeds, whether a mum ever feels full, what she notices during a feed, whether she hears swallows, and the story of when her milk came in. They bring nuance from later-postpartum mums around 9–10 weeks, who suddenly feel “empty”, stop leaking and stop feeling letdowns — even while their baby is swallowing happily.  And as always they keep circling back to counselling skills: pausing, asking open questions, letting mums talk, watching a feed together and helping her see what’s really happening. 

 

They discuss weight gain as a trend, nappy output as a key sign of intake, and why believing mums — rather than forcing them to defend themselves — is the foundation for any plan.  

 

This is not a list of causes and fixes. It’s a deep dive into trust, listening, and the emotional reality of low supply for breastfeeding mums and the professionals who support them. 

 

Takeaways 

  • Why the term “perceived low milk supply” can feel humiliating and dismissive to mums. 
  • How online forums and some services make women justify their pain before offering help.
  • What we looks at when low supply is suspected: breast fullness patterns, swallows, history of milk coming in, and baby’s nappies and weight trend.  
  • Why many mums around 9–10 weeks panic that their milk has “disappeared” when breasts regulate and stop feeling full or leaky. 
  • How open questions, silence, and watching a feed together help mums rebuild trust in their own perception.  
  • Why partners’ emotional support and whole-family dynamics matter when low supply worry has been simmering for weeks.  


Keywords  low milk supply, perceived low milk supply, low supply anxiety, breastfeeding worry, new mum support, nappies and weight gain, breastfeeding consult, counselling skills, lactation consultant, IBCLC, emergency visit crying baby, nine weeks postpartum, breast fullness, leaking stopping, letdown sensations, partner support, believing mums

 

Want to go deeper?  Head to The Latch Revolution to learn more about our course Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties.  

 

Resources & Courses:  katiejames.site

 

 

Instagram: @katiejameslactation  

YouTube: The Latch Revolution 

 

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Medical Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.

Re-lactation, Induced Lactation & The Myths We’re Seeing Online - Ep 709 Jan 202600:22:52

Re-lactation is everywhere in the media right now — and in this episode, Katie and Joh slow the conversation down.

They talk through what re-lactation actually is, who it’s most likely to work for, and why a woman’s early breastfeeding history matters far more than social media makes it seem. 

Katie describes scenarios where a breastfeeding mum has built and maintained a full milk supply, stopped feeding, and later wants to bring breast milk back into her baby’s life — and why, in those cases, re-lactation can be very achievable. They contrast this with situations where a mum never reached a full milk supply in the early weeks, and why restarting later may still be possible, but with different expectations. 

Joh shares real-world stories, including working with a woman whose milk supply was medically suppressed during a vulnerable postpartum period, and the importance of first holding space before talking protocols. Together, they emphasise how re-lactation is intensive work, similar in effort to triple feeding, and why sustainability, mental health and daily life must be part of the conversation. 

The episode also explores goals beyond milk volume — including feeding at the breast, comfort, connection and at-breast supplementation. They discuss how even small amounts of milk, or feeding at the breast with additional milk, can be deeply meaningful for some mothers. 

Finally, they clearly distinguish re-lactation from induced lactation, explaining when induced lactation might be considered, what it involves at a high level, and why these two processes should not be lumped together.

Throughout, the focus remains on nuance, realistic expectations, and listening carefully to what each mother actually wants. 

 

Key Takeaways:

  • Relactation outcomes depend heavily on what happened in the first 2–4 weeks postpartum. 
  • Women who built and maintained a full milk supply before stopping often have the clearest path back to milk production. 
  • Women who never reached a full supply may still relactate, but expectations need careful, honest discussion. 
  • Relactation is intensive and demanding, similar in workload to triple feeding. 
  • Goals may be about connection and feeding at the breast, not just milk volume. 
  • At-breast supplementation can be a valuable option many mums have never been told about. 
  • Relactation and induced lactation are different processes and should not be confused. 
  • Sitting with the mum, understanding her life, and exploring what feels sustainable is essential.

Keywords:

relactation, induced lactation, breastfeeding after stopping, milk supply restart, breastfeeding goals, at-breast supplementation, breastfeeding support, lactation physiology, realistic breastfeeding expectations, feeding at the breast

 

Want to go deeper? 

Head to The Latch Revolution to learn more about Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties. 

Resources & Courses:  katiejames.site 

  • Breastfeeding & Lactation: The Fundamentals 
  • The Feeding Couch 
  • Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties 

Instagram: @katiejameslactation 

YouTube: The Latch Revolution 

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Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.

Can Breastfeeding Mums Eat Anything? Food Rules, Cabbage, Spice and Why We’re Overthinking It - Ep 822 Jan 202600:30:12

We nearly didn’t record this episode because breastfeeding and nutrition is a topic loaded with pressure, strong opinions, and a lot of misinformation.

But after an Instagram comment asked us to cover it, we realised this conversation is exactly what many breastfeeding mums and clinicians need: less perfection, more realism, and a lot more nuance.

Katie shares a vivid early-midwife memory of breastfeeding leaflets paired with food pyramids and impossible expectations, and Joh describes the common end-of-consult question: “What should I eat?”

Often it comes with a long list of foods a mum has been told to avoid — brassicas, onion, legumes, spicy food, dairy, gluten, eggs, caffeine, alcohol, fizzy drinks — until it feels like there’s nothing left.

We talk about why, for most breastfeeding mums, the most helpful message is simple: you should be able to eat everything, unless you have a diagnosed medical condition and specialist support.

We explore the difference between “ideal,” “optimal,” “good,” and “okay,” and why removing foods based on fear can cause guilt, anxiety, and unnecessary restriction in a vulnerable postpartum period.

We also unpack common myths: the assumption that “gassy foods” or fizzy drinks create unsettled babies, and how sleep deprivation plus repeated advice can lead mums to blame themselves for normal baby behaviour.

Katie and Joh discuss cultural patterns around postpartum foods and how many traditional recommendations have the same themes: calorie-rich, nutrient-dense, comforting, and nurturing.

Finally, we talk about calories and diet culture postpartum. Making milk requires fuel, and severe restriction can become risky, especially when anxiety or OCD shows up as control of food intake.

The thread that runs through the whole episode is clinical reality: meet the mum where she is, support her capacity, and choose advice that reduces pressure rather than adding to it.

Key Takeaways:

• Many breastfeeding mums are told to avoid long lists of foods, leaving them restricted, stressed, and hungry. 

• For most mums, the simplest helpful message is that they should be able to eat everything, unless a diagnosed medical condition is involved with specialist support. 

• Postpartum food advice should reduce pressure, not add guilt or anxiety. 

• What often matters most is adequate calorie intake and practical nourishment during an intense period of life. 

• “Ideal” nutrition and “what is possible right now” are not the same thing — flexibility matters. 

• The idea that foods like cabbage, onion, legumes, or fizzy drinks automatically cause unsettled babies is often assumed and then self-blamed when a baby has a hard night. 

• Many cultural postpartum food traditions share common themes: calorie-rich, nutrient-dense, comforting, and nurturing. 

• Diet culture postpartum can collide with the demands of making milk, and restrictive control of food can spiral in an already vulnerable period. 

• Good clinical care includes meeting the mum where she is, understanding capacity, and supporting mental health alongside feeding.

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Head to thelatchrevolution.com to learn more about our latest "baby": Decoding The Suck: Gentle support for Babies With Sucking Difficulties.

For More Resources & Courses: katiejames.site

  • Breastfeeding & Lactation: The Fundamentals
  • The Feeding Couch

Instagram: @katiejameslactation@milkandmotherhood

YouTube: The Latch Revolution

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Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.

 

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Breastfeeding Pain: What’s Normal, What’s Not, and Why Words Matter - Ep 905 Feb 202600:44:33

Breastfeeding pain is one of the most common reasons mums stop feeding — yet many are never given the language to describe what they’re feeling.

In this episode of The Latch Revolution, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant unpack breastfeeding pain with nuance, practicality, and honesty.

Breastfeeding pain is often talked about in extremes: either it’s “normal, push through,” or “it should never hurt.” In this conversation, Katie and Joh slow the topic down and help differentiate between normal, stretchy discomfort and pain that signals injury or a deeper feeding issue.

They talk about why pain often peaks in the early days, what ongoing pain is telling us, and how positioning choices — particularly upright feeding with firm pillows — can contribute to shallow attachment and nipple damage. The episode also explores laid-back feeding, why it supports baby reflexes and maternal comfort, and why it still isn’t taught routinely despite decades of discussion.

A key theme throughout is observation. Rather than focusing only on the breastfeeding, Katie and Joh discuss watching the whole mum — posture, breathing, hands, shoulders, voice, and tension — and how these cues give vital information about what’s really happening during a feed.

This episode is about giving mums and lactation supporters better language, clearer guidance, and confidence to know when to seek help — without guilt or dismissal.

In this episode, we cover:

  • Why breastfeeding pain isn’t one thing and needs better language

  • The difference between normal stretchy discomfort and injury pain

  • Why the belief that breastfeeding should never hurt is unhelpful

  • When pain typically peaks in the early days

  • Signs that pain needs further assessment

  • How positioning and pillows affect attachment and comfort

  • Why laid-back feeding supports deeper attachment

  • What observing the whole mum can tell us about pain

Need more support?

If you want to go deeper into breastfeeding assessment and support:

Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties

Learn how to assess suck, attachment, and oral function with confidence, and support babies whose feeding challenges aren’t straightforward.

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Breastfeeding & Lactation: The Fundamentals

A comprehensive, evidence-based foundation for birth workers who want to strengthen their understanding of breastfeeding physiology and clinical decision-making.

Visit katiejames.site

 

The Feeding Couch® – Breastfeeding SOS

Ongoing support for breastfeeding mums who need reassurance, clarity, and help navigating feeding challenges.

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Medical Disclaimer

The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.

Keywords:

breastfeeding pain, nipple pain breastfeeding, normal breastfeeding pain, painful latch, laid-back breastfeeding, breastfeeding positioning, breastfeeding assessment, lactation support, midwife breastfeeding care, IBCLC support

Antenatal Colostrum Harvesting: Helpful Skill or Hidden Pressure? E1025 Feb 202600:41:11

Antenatal colostrum harvesting.

Some call it essential. Others call it unnecessary pressure.

In this episode, Katie and Joh unpack the nuance — without extremes.

 

Episode Summary

In this episode of The Latch Revolution, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant, IBCLC's sit down for an unplanned, cuppa-style conversation about antenatal colostrum harvesting — and quickly discover that while their opinions are strong, they are surprisingly aligned.

They explore how colostrum harvesting has evolved from a targeted strategy for mothers with gestational diabetes to something increasingly promoted to the wider pregnant population. Katie reflects on how social media, online kits, and pressure to “prepare properly” can strip the nuance from what is meant to be a gentle, curiosity-based skill.

Joh shares how she approaches the conversation in prenatal consults: as an opportunity for a breastfeeding mum to learn how to handle her breasts confidently, without urgency or expectation. The focus is not on stockpiling syringes, but on familiarity, technique, and understanding how the body works while the placenta is still in place.

The episode also addresses common concerns, including why using a pump in pregnancy is not recommended, and the important distinction between curiosity and rigidity. Katie and Joh discuss the second night feeding frenzy, how small amounts of expressed colostrum can sometimes support maternal well-being, and why larger volumes may interfere with the natural frequency that brings milk in.

Throughout the conversation, they return to the same core principle: context matters. Technique matters. Personality matters. And above all, nuance matters.

 

In This Episode, We Cover:

  • Why colostrum harvesting moved beyond gestational diabetes

  • The difference between curiosity-based practice and pressure

  • Why using a pump in pregnancy is not recommended

  • How placenta hormones affect milk production before birth

  • Why technique may determine whether colostrum appears

  • The second night feeding frenzy and how small volumes may help

  • How large antenatal stores could potentially interfere with early feeding frequency

  • The importance of tailoring advice to each breastfeeding mum’s personality and capacity

 

Need More Support?

Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties

thelatchrevolution.com

Breastfeeding & Lactation: The Fundamentals – Course for birth professionals

katiejames.site

The Feeding Couch® – Breastfeeding SOS – for new mums and parents

katiejames.site

 

Instagram:

Katie: @katiejameslactation

Johanna: @milkandmotherhood

 

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Editor’s Note:

During this conversation, Katie misquoted the proportion of women in the DAME trial who collected zero colostrum antenatally. The correct figure is approximately one in four. We have added a brief in-episode clarification to ensure accuracy.

 

Medical Disclaimer

The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.

 

Keywords:

antenatal colostrum harvesting, colostrum expression in pregnancy, DAME trial colostrum, gestational diabetes breastfeeding, hand expression technique pregnancy, placenta and milk production, second night feeding frenzy, breastfeeding preparation pregnancy, hand expressing colostrum before birth, breastfeeding confidence antenatal

What’s Normal in the First Month of Breastfeeding? - Ep 1111 Mar 202600:37:44

The first month of breastfeeding can feel completely unpredictable.

One day your baby feeds constantly. The next day they barely wake to feed. Your breasts feel full, then suddenly soft. And every small change can make a new mum wonder if something is wrong.

In this episode, Katie and Joh talk about what is actually normal in those early weeks.

Episode Summary

In this episode of The Latch Revolution, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant explore what typically happens during the first month of breastfeeding and why this period can feel so confusing for new mothers.

They discuss how babies often feed in very unpredictable patterns during the early weeks. Some days a baby may feed almost continuously, while on other days they may sleep more and feed far less. This variation can feel alarming to new mums, but it often reflects normal growth patterns and recovery cycles rather than a problem.

Katie and Joh explain why focusing on nappies and overall weight trends is far more helpful than watching daily changes in feeding frequency or weight. They discuss how frequent weighing can create unnecessary anxiety and why weekly weight checks are often more appropriate once feeding is established.

The conversation also explores the importance of recognising feeding cues and how easily these can be missed, especially when families are busy or when babies are more sleepy. Katie describes early, mid and late feeding cues, while Joh explains how subtle head movements and searching behaviours often signal that a baby is looking for the breast.

They also unpack what is happening hormonally in the mother’s body during the first month. In these early weeks breastfeeding is still hormonally driven, with frequent feeding stimulating prolactin and helping establish long-term milk production. As the weeks progress, the system gradually shifts toward supply-and-demand regulation.

Finally, they discuss why introducing bottles, dummies, or other feeding tools in the first weeks requires nuance. While these tools can sometimes help families in specific situations, understanding the physiology of milk production in the first month is key to protecting long-term milk supply.

In This Episode, We Cover:

  • Why feeding patterns can feel unpredictable in the first month

  • Why daily baby weight checks can increase anxiety for breastfeeding mums

  • How nappies and output help confirm that a baby is feeding well

  • The early, mid and late feeding cues newborn babies show

  • Why sleepy babies can sometimes miss feeding opportunities

  • What is happening hormonally in a mother’s body during the first month of breastfeeding

  • How prolactin and frequent feeding help establish milk supply

  • When breastfeeding shifts from hormonal regulation to supply and demand

  • Why introducing bottles or dummies in the early weeks requires consideration

  • How understanding breastfeeding physiology helps protect milk supply

 

Want More?

Courses for birth professionals:

Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties

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"My Milk Has Disappeared” — What’s Actually Happening? E1225 Mar 202600:40:53

“My milk has disappeared.”

It’s one of the most common messages mums send in panic — often around the 8–10 week mark.

Breasts feel soft, leaking stops, letdowns change… and suddenly everything feels different.

In this episode of The Latch Revolution, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant (IBCLCs) explore the common experience of breastfeeding mums feeling like their milk has suddenly disappeared.

They begin with the classic scenario around 8–10 weeks, where breasts feel softer, leaking reduces, and sensations like letdown are no longer as noticeable. This shift can feel alarming, particularly as many mums are no longer receiving regular support at this stage.

Katie and Joh explain how this change is often a normal transition from the early, less regulated phase of milk production into a more efficient, demand-led system. The body has learned how much milk to make and no longer needs to overproduce.

The conversation then moves into other situations that can feel like milk has disappeared, including illness, hormonal changes, return of periods, pregnancy, and thyroid changes. They explain how these factors can temporarily affect milk supply but do not mean that milk is gone permanently.

Finally, the episode explores a more sensitive and complex topic — how grief and significant stress can affect the milk ejection reflex and make it feel as though milk is no longer there. They discuss how this is a physiological response to overwhelming stress, and the importance of compassion in these situations.

In This Episode We Cover

– Why breasts feel softer around 8–10 weeks
– Why leaking and letdown sensations can disappear
– How milk production becomes more efficient over time
– Why babies are the best indicator of milk supply
– Temporary changes from illness or hormonal shifts
– The impact of returning periods on milk supply
– Pregnancy and breastfeeding changes
– Thyroid conditions and milk production
– How grief can affect milk ejection

Want More From Katie and Joh?

Check out our courses for professionals:

Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties

“My milk has disappeared.”

It’s one of the most common messages mums send in panic — often around the 8–10 week mark.

Breasts feel soft, leaking stops, letdowns change… and suddenly everything feels different.

Episode Summary

In this episode of The Latch Revolution, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant explore the common experience of breastfeeding mums feeling like their milk has suddenly disappeared.

They begin with the classic scenario around 8–10 weeks, where breasts feel softer, leaking reduces, and sensations like letdown are no longer as noticeable. This shift can feel alarming, particularly as many mums are no longer receiving regular support at this stage.

Katie and Joh explain how this change is often a normal transition from the early, less regulated phase of milk production into a more efficient, demand-led system. The body has learned how much milk to make and no longer needs to overproduce.

The conversation then moves into other situations that can feel like milk has disappeared, including illness, hormonal changes, return of periods, pregnancy, and thyroid changes. They explain how these factors can temporarily affect milk supply but do not mean that milk is gone permanently.

Finally, the episode explores a more sensitive and complex topic — how grief and significant stress can affect the milk ejection reflex and make it feel as though milk is no longer there. They discuss how this is not a failure of milk production, but a physiological response to overwhelming stress, and the importance of compassion in these situations.

In This Episode We Cover

– Why breasts feel softer around 8–10 weeks
– Why leaking and letdown sensations can disappear
– How milk production becomes more efficient over time
– Why babies are the best indicator of milk supply
– The role of nappies and swallowing as evidence
– Temporary changes from illness or hormonal shifts
– The impact of returning periods on milk supply
– Pregnancy and breastfeeding changes
– Thyroid conditions and milk production
– How grief and stress can affect milk ejection

Want More From Katie and Joh?

Check out our courses for professionals:

Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties

“My milk has disappeared.”

It’s one of the most common messages mums send in panic — often around the 8–10 week mark.

Breasts feel soft, leaking stops, letdowns change… and suddenly everything feels different.

Episode Summary

In this episode of The Latch Revolution, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant explore the common experience of breastfeeding mums feeling like their milk has suddenly disappeared.

They begin with the classic scenario around 8–10 weeks, where breasts feel softer, leaking reduces, and sensations like letdown are no longer as noticeable. This shift can feel alarming, particularly as many mums are no longer receiving regular support at this stage.

Katie and Joh explain how this change is often a normal transition from the early, less regulated phase of milk production into a more efficient, demand-led system. The body has learned how much milk to make and no longer needs to overproduce.

The conversation then moves into other situations that can feel like milk has disappeared, including illness, hormonal changes, return of periods, pregnancy, and thyroid changes. They explain how these factors can temporarily affect milk supply but do not mean that milk is gone permanently.

Finally, the episode explores a more sensitive and complex topic — how grief and significant stress can affect the milk ejection reflex and make it feel as though milk is no longer there. They discuss how this is not a failure of milk production, but a physiological response to overwhelming stress, and the importance of compassion in these situations.

In This Episode We Cover

– Why breasts feel softer around 8–10 weeks
– Why leaking and letdown sensations can disappear
– How milk production becomes more efficient over time
– Why babies are the best indicator of milk supply
– The role of nappies and swallowing as evidence
– Temporary changes from illness or hormonal shifts
– The impact of returning periods on milk supply
– Pregnancy and breastfeeding changes
– Thyroid conditions and milk production
– How grief and stress can affect milk ejection

Want More From Katie and Joh?

Check out our courses for professionals:

Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties

https://thelatchrevolution.com

Breastfeeding & Lactation: The Fundamentals
https://katiejames.site

The Feeding Couch® – Breastfeeding SOS
https://katiejames.site

You can also access the 5 Gentle Questions Booklet — a clinical tool designed to support deeper conversations in breastfeeding consultations: https://www.thelatchrevolution.com/gentle-questions

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Keywords

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Mastitis: What’s Changed, What’s Wrong, and What Still Gets Missed - E1430 Apr 202600:30:16

Mastitis isn’t just an infection. And the way we’ve been treating it… might be making things worse.

In this episode, Katie and Joh unpack mastitis through a more current lens — moving away from the idea of “blocked ducts” and towards understanding inflammation as the key driver.

They explore the early signs many women miss — including the flu-like symptoms that can appear before any visible breast changes — and why recognising these early can change the entire trajectory of the condition.

The conversation also challenges long-standing advice around heat, massage, and increased feeding, explaining why these approaches may worsen inflammation rather than resolve it. Instead, they introduce a more physiologically aligned approach focused on rest, anti-inflammatories, cold therapy, and maintaining normal feeding patterns.

Importantly, they discuss what happens when mastitis doesn’t fully resolve — including subclinical presentations, changes in milk supply, and the impact on baby behaviour. The episode also highlights the emotional and practical realities for mothers navigating mastitis, and the need for clinicians to remain flexible, transparent, and responsive when protocols don’t fit the individual.

In This Episode We Cover

  • Early “boob flu” symptoms and why mastitis can present before breast changes
  • The shift from “blocked ducts” to inflammation-based understanding
  • Why heat and massage may worsen symptoms
  • How cold therapy and anti-inflammatories may support recovery
  • When to manage at home vs when to seek medical review
  • Subclinical mastitis and recurring symptoms
  • Changes in milk taste and baby feeding behaviour
  • Maintaining milk supply when baby refuses one breast
  • The role of clinical judgement beyond protocol
  • Transparency and trust in complex lactation care

 

Want More From Katie and Joh?
Check out our courses for professionals:
Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties

Breastfeeding & Lactation: The Fundamentals

Pregnant or a new mum or parent? Find more support from Katie:
The Feeding Couch® – Breastfeeding SOS – for new mums and parents

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Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.

Keywords
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Breast Pumping in Clinical Practice: What We’re Still Getting Wrong - E1315 Apr 202600:43:15

Pumping should be simple. But for many mums… it becomes painful, confusing, and ineffective.

In this episode, Katie and Joh unpack what’s really going on when pumping “isn’t working” — and why the answer is rarely what you think.

 

Episode Summary

Katie and Joh take a deep dive into the reality of pumping, starting with one of the most overlooked issues in lactation support — incorrect flange/shield sizing. They explore why so many women are given the wrong size, how this affects comfort and milk output, and why going smaller, not larger, is often the key to effective stimulation.

The conversation moves into pump types, including hospital-grade pumps, double pumps, and wearable devices — where, for once, Katie and Joh don’t entirely agree. They explore the tension between efficiency and flexibility, and how the “best” pump depends entirely on the individual mother, her circumstances, and her goals.

They also unpack practical strategies to improve pumping outcomes, including timing, vacuum levels, switching between stimulation and expression modes, and why watching milk output can actually reduce it. Joh shares the now well-known “sock over the bottle” technique and the surprising impact of removing visual pressure.

Finally, the episode broadens into the emotional and psychological experience of pumping — from stress, grief, and NICU experiences to the importance of oxytocin and creating a sense of safety. They highlight that pumping is not just mechanical — it is deeply physiological and emotional, and support must reflect that.

In This Episode We Cover

  • Why incorrect flange size is one of the biggest barriers to effective pumping

  • Why smaller sizes often work better than larger ones

  • The difference between hospital-grade pumps and standard pumps

  • Wearable pumps vs traditional pumps — and where Katie and Joh differ

  • Why pumping should never be painful

  • How to set the correct vacuum level based on comfort, not numbers

  • Timing: why 15 minutes is often enough

  • Switching between stimulation and expression modes

  • The “sock over the bottle” method and why watching output reduces milk flow

  • Oxytocin and pumping — what actually helps milk release

  • Why pumping can carry emotional weight, stress, or grief

  • Why a pump session does not reflect total milk supply

  • Power pumping — when to use it and when to stop

 

Want More From Katie and Joh?

Check out our courses for professionals:

Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties

https://thelatchrevolution.com

Breastfeeding & Lactation: The Fundamentals

https://katiejames.site

Pregnant or a new mum? Find more support from Katie:

The Feeding Couch® – Breastfeeding SOS

https://katiejames.site

 

Download the FREE 5 Gentle Questions booklet:

https://www.thelatchrevolution.com/gentle-questions

 

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Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.

 

Keywords

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Why Babies Refuse Bottles - And What Gets Missed -E1513 May 202600:51:07

 

Bottle refusal isn’t always behavioural. 

And if you’ve tried every bottle on the market without success… there may be something else going on.

In this episode, Katie and Johanna, IBCLC's, unpack bottle and teat refusal in breastfed babies — looking at both the behavioural side as well as the physiological side that often gets missed.

They walk through the practical strategies many parents are already trying: changing positions, changing the caregiver, adjusting milk temperature, experimenting with teat flow and creating low-pressure experiences around bottles.

But they also explore why some babies still struggle despite all of that.

The conversation dives into oral function, tongue movement, high palates, gag reflexes, bottle teat design, and why some babies physically struggle to coordinate sucking on certain bottle shapes.

Katie and Johanna also discuss how stress and pressure around bottle feeding can quickly escalate into bottle aversion — and why play, curiosity and responsiveness matter far more than forcing feeds.

Importantly, we talk about the situations where bottles simply aren’t working before a return to work, many babies compensate by 'reverse cycle feeding' — breastfeeding much more frequently overnight.

This episode is packed with practical ideas, nuanced clinical discussion, and reassurance for both mums, new parents and professionals.

  • Why breastfed babies may suddenly refuse bottles

  • Behavioural strategies that genuinely help

  • Why teat shape matters more than marketing suggests

  • Bottle flow rates and matching milk flow

  • The role of milk taste

  • Why some babies become distressed around bottles

  • High palates, tongue tie and oral sensitivity

  • The connection between bottle refusal and sucking function

  • Why play and curiosity reduce bottle aversion

  • Open cups vs straw cups vs bottles

  • Reverse cycling and feeding when mums return to work

  • Why observation matters more than rigid rules

Mentioned In This Episode

Decoding the Suck — Professional Training

NEW Parent Sucking Support Packages

 

Susan Howard IBCLC - Reel with O Ball and bottle teat

 

The Feeding Couch® — Breastfeeding Support for Parents

Breastfeeding and Lactation: the fundamentals - Professional Training

 

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Medical Disclaimer

The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and should not replace individual medical care. Mums and new parents should always seek support from their own healthcare provider, lactation consultant or medical practitioner regarding their individual circumstances.

Keywords

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Why Some Babies Prefer Bottles Over The Breast- Ep 1627 May 202600:42:29

Bottle Preference vs “Nipple Confusion” | Flow, Breast Refusal & Paced Feeding

Last episode, we unpacked bottle refusal in breastfed babies.

This week, we’re tackling the other side of the feeding conversation:
what happens when babies begin preferring the bottle over the breast — or what many people still call “nipple confusion.”

Except… babies usually aren’t confused by nipples at all.

In this episode, lactation consultants Katie James and Johanna Sargeant explore what’s actually happening when babies begin refusing the breast after bottles are introduced — and why flow, sucking mechanics, oral function and feeding dynamics matter far more than most people realise.

We discuss:

• bottle preference vs “nipple confusion”  
• flow preference in breastfed babies  
• why some babies begin refusing the breast  
• how milk flow changes sucking behaviour  
• fast flow vs slow flow feeding dynamics  
• paced bottle feeding that genuinely mimics breastfeeding  
• how to bottle feed without sabotaging breastfeeding  
• bottle feeding positions and latch mechanics  
• non-nutritive sucking and letdowns  
• oral function signs that often get missed  
• late-onset low milk supply linked to feeding mechanics  
• teat shape, bottle flow and feeding behaviour  
• mixed feeding and combination feeding support  
• breastfeeding politics and fear-based messaging  
• how to support families without shame or black-and-white advice

This episode is for:
midwives, lactation consultants, IBCLCs, speech pathologists, maternal child health nurses, doulas, infant feeding professionals, and parents trying to navigate breastfeeding and bottles without panic, guilt or confusing advice.

One of the biggest themes in this episode is nuance.

Because bottles are not poison.  
Teats are not poison.  
And one bottle does not automatically ruin breastfeeding.

But feeding mechanics matter.

And the way we support families around bottle feeding matters too.

Mentioned in this episode:
• paced bottle feeding  
• flow preference  
• breast refusal  
• oral function assessment  
• bottle feeding mechanics  
• late-onset low milk supply  
• mixed feeding support  
• responsive feeding approaches

Listen to the previous episode:
Why Babies Refuse Bottles - And What Gets Missed

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Courses & Education:

Katie James & Johanna Sargeant - Decoding the Suck training for professionals

The Latch Revolution - Exercises for parents to support their infants suck challenges

The Feeding Couch — breastfeeding education for parents:

Breastfeeding & Lactation: The Fundamentals — professional education for birth workers


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This podcast is for education and information only and should not replace individual medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Please seek support from your own healthcare provider, IBCLC, midwife or medical professional for individual concerns.

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Should This Mum Keep Feeding? How We Make That Decision- E1710 Jun 202600:52:58

When breastfeeding is causing significant pain or nipple trauma, should a mother keep feeding through it?

Or are there times when a temporary change in the feeding plan may actually protect breastfeeding long term?

In this episode, Katie and Joh explore one of the most challenging clinical decisions faced by lactation consultants, midwives and breastfeeding supporters.

Episode Summary

Breastfeeding professionals are often taught how to support mothers to continue breastfeeding. Sometimes harder is knowing when continuing exactly as things are may be contributing to ongoing pain, tissue damage, stress, and feeding difficulties.

In this episode, Katie and Joh discuss how they approach severe nipple pain and trauma in clinical practice. They explore the factors that influence decision-making, including wound healing, maternal wellbeing, feeding goals, pumping, nipple shields, and the importance of individualised care.

The conversation highlights the reality that many breastfeeding situations sit firmly in the grey zone. Rather than rigid rules, the discussion focuses on clinical reasoning, transparency, and working collaboratively with mothers to develop plans that feel achievable and supportive.

As always, this is an honest conversation between two experienced clinicians navigating the complexity of real-world breastfeeding support.

In This Episode We Cover

  • Why severe nipple trauma is rarely a simple clinical decision
  • When continuing to breastfeed may be helping or hindering healing
  • The role of maternal wellbeing in feeding decisions
  • How pumping may fit into a temporary feeding plan
  • When nipple shields might be useful
  • Supporting wound healing while protecting milk supply
  • Why breastfeeding support must remain individualised
  • Clinical reasoning versus rigid protocols
  • The importance of collaborative decision-making
  • Helping mothers feel seen, heard and supported
  • The emotional impact of ongoing feeding pain
  • Balancing short-term challenges with long-term breastfeeding goals

Want More From Katie and Joh?

Check out our courses for professionals:

Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties

Breastfeeding & Lactation: The Fundamentals

Pregnant or a new mum? Find more support from Katie:

The Feeding Couch® – Breastfeeding SOS – for new mums

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Katie: @katiejameslactation

Johanna: @milkandmotherhood

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The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.

Keywords

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