The Land Department – Details, episodes & analysis

Every royalty check starts with work most people never see. After a lease is signed and a well starts producing, someone has to review title, build the deck, and make sure every owner's decimal interest adds up to a perfect 1.0 before anyone gets paid. That someone is a division order analyst, one of the most important and least understood roles in the land business.

Rebekah Stringer, President of the Houston Association of Division Order Analysts and a division order supervisor with twelve years in the field, joins Brent and Khalil for a ground-up tour of the land back office. She walks through the full lifecycle from title review to payment, explains suspense and escheat, and gets into the people side of the job: owner relations, what stays in-house versus what gets outsourced, and how the next generation finds its way into a profession most people stumble into by accident.

Key Topics & Timestamps

• 00:46 - Back Office Matters
• 02:33 - Rebekah's Career Path
• 06:46 - Inside Division Order Work
• 12:15 - Division Orders and Suspense
• 24:11 - Escheat and Finding Owners
• 31:00 - Licensing Tiers and Costs
• 32:02 - PI Tools and Ethics
• 33:57 - Outsourcing Division Order Work
• 41:45 - Clean Handoffs and Spreadsheet Reality
• 52:27 - Talent Pipeline

Memorable Quotes

• "Make it add up to 1.0." — Rebekah
• "Handling owners is a huge part of what we do." — Rebekah
• "It's not just getting people paid, it's making sure you've got everything papered up and documented properly." — Brent
• "Nobody really knows what a division order analyst is, or even that we exist." — Rebekah

Key Takeaways

• The back office is where royalty owners actually get paid. After a lease is signed and a well comes online, the division order team reviews title, builds the deck, confirms every interest adds up to 1.0, and sends out division orders so owners can go into pay.
• A clean handoff that adds up to 1.0 makes everything easier. When an in-house landman hands over a division of interest that totals exactly 1.0, the division order team can set up the well and get owners paid without untangling a title problem first.
• Owners carry the responsibility to keep their records current. Operators can't pay or update an owner they don't know about, so address changes, sales, and deaths all sit with the owner to report. That's why suspense exists and why empathetic owner relations matter so much.
• Some work has to stay in-house. Well setups, deck setups, and complex transfers carry too much downstream risk to outsource. Owner relations, pay code changes, and escheat support are safer to hand off when a team needs to flex up.
• The profession faces a talent gap, and associations are the way in. Most analysts found the field by accident, and experienced analysts are retiring with their knowledge. Groups like NADOA and HADOA offer the trainings, mentorship, and networking that bring new people in.

Help us improve our podcast! Share your thoughts in our quick survey.⁠

Resources

• ⁠⁠⁠PBLA ⁠⁠⁠(Permian Basin Landmen's Association)
• ⁠⁠⁠Texas Tech University Energy Commerce Program⁠⁠⁠
• Need Help With A Project? ⁠⁠⁠Meet With Dudley⁠⁠⁠
• Need Help with Staffing? Connect with ⁠⁠⁠Dudley Staffing⁠⁠⁠
• Streamline Your Title Process with ⁠⁠⁠Dudley Select Title⁠⁠⁠
• Watch On ⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠
• Follow Dudley Land Co. On ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠
• Have Questions? ⁠⁠⁠Email us⁠⁠⁠

More From Our Guest

• Rebekah Stringer, President of the ⁠Houston Association of Division Order Analysts ⁠and board member of the ⁠National Association of Division Order Analysts⁠
• Connect with Rebekah on⁠ LinkedIn⁠

More from Our Hosts

• ⁠⁠⁠Brent⁠⁠⁠ on LinkedIn
• ⁠⁠Khalil ⁠⁠⁠on LinkedIn

AI gets all the headlines, but the data centers behind it don't run without fuel. Natural gas is a huge part of that story, and so is the land underneath it. Peter Snell, founder and CEO of PetroVybe, joins Brent and Khalil to explain how he's building a natural gas company designed for the AI era from the ground up.

They dig into why so much Permian gas stays trapped, why PetroVybe operates where the infrastructure already exists, and how a 10-year asset strategy gets built one acquisition at a time. Peter also breaks down how landmen can use AI as a daily planning tool, what data center developers keep getting wrong about mineral rights and right of way, and why planning for failure is part of the model. It's a practical look at where energy, technology, and land work all meet.

Key Timestamps

• 01:06 - Why Data Centers Matter
• 04:12 - PetroVybe Origin Story
• 08:02 - Permian Gas Bottlenecks
• 15:40 - Building a 10-Year Asset Base
• 20:14 - AI Limits and Landman Playbook
• 32:32 - Data Centers Land Pitfalls
• 40:42 - Ten-Year Pivots And Stewardship
• 47:01 - AI Future Trades Wrap Up

Memorable Quotes

• "AI centers don't exist without fuel, and I think that's often missed in the public eye." — Peter
• "AI's not here to take your job. AI's here to make your job easier so we can do more with you and not hire five more landmen." — Peter
• "A landman is not going anywhere." — Brent
• "Get comfortable with being uncomfortable with learning about those new things." — Peter

Key Takeaways

• AI data centers run on natural gas. The public conversation focuses on AI capabilities, but the compute can't run without fuel. Natural gas is core to powering the buildout, and that puts land and mineral work at the center of the story.
• The Permian has gas, but it's trapped. The infrastructure is built for oil, not gas, so much of the supply can't reach market profitably. PetroVybe operates in South and East Texas where the takeaway capacity actually exists.
• East Texas land is a people business. Heirship, complicated title, smaller parcels, and hundreds of mineral owners per project make East Texas a different challenge than the contract-driven Permian. That complexity is exactly where landmen add value.
• Landmen can use AI as a daily planning tool. Feed Claude or ChatGPT your local context, test it against the macro trends, and build a 30-day, 12-month, and 24-month plan. The goal is to understand the connection points, not become an expert in everything.
• Data center developers keep skipping the land work. Sites get bought without checking mineral exposure, interconnection queue status, or right of way. The deal looks easy until the dirt underneath turns into a problem.

About Our Guest

Peter Snell is the founder and CEO of PetroVybe, a natural gas development company built for the AI era. After more than a decade as a management consultant and business fixer, Peter moved into oil and gas and now leads a team focused on natural gas, long-term investor protection, and biblical stewardship.

Help us improve our podcast! Share your thoughts in our quick survey.

Resources

• ⁠⁠PBLA ⁠⁠(Permian Basin Landmen's Association)
• ⁠⁠Texas Tech University Energy Commerce Program⁠⁠
• Need Help With A Project? ⁠⁠Meet With Dudley⁠⁠
• Need Help with Staffing? Connect with ⁠⁠Dudley Staffing⁠⁠
• Streamline Your Title Process with ⁠⁠Dudley Select Title⁠⁠
• Watch On ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠
• Follow Dudley Land Co. On ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠
• Have Questions? ⁠⁠Email us⁠⁠

More From Our Guest

• Peter Snell, Founder & CEO of ⁠PetroVybe⁠
• Connect with ⁠Peter on LinkedIn⁠

More from Our Hosts

• ⁠⁠Brent⁠⁠ on LinkedIn
• ⁠Khalil ⁠⁠on LinkedIn

After 24 years as a landman, host Brent Broussard finally faced his first deposition—and it opened his eyes to how unprepared most landmen are for litigation. Oil and gas attorneys Lee Carr and Brian Wittpenn share street-smart strategies for avoiding lawsuits, handling depositions, and protecting yourself when litigation becomes inevitable.

What You’ll Learn

• Why avoiding litigation entirely is impossible (and the only foolproof method)
• Essential documentation practices that can save or sink your case
• How to handle agency disclosure requirements without killing deals
• What to do immediately when served with a lawsuit or subpoena
• Communication strategies that protect you in adversarial situations

Time Stamps

• 00:57 - Episode & Guest Intro
• 01:37 - Landmen and Lawsuits
• 02:58 - Avoiding Litigation as a Landman
• 05:07 - Contract Disputes and Settlements
• 07:35 - Deposition Costs and Realities
• 09:54 - Ethics and Best Practices
• 11:54 - Agency and Disclosure
• 18:51 - Documentation and Process
• 23:26 - Offers and Counter Offers
• 26:12 - Importance of Termination Dates in Offers
• 28:01 - Handling Legal Trouble: Initial Steps
• 35:09 - Understanding Subpoenas and Document Retention
• 40:41 - Best Practices for Professional Communication
• 42:46 - File Retention
• 47:48 - Episode Takeaways
• 49:38 - Episode Outro

Snippets from the Episode

• "Really, the only foolproof way to not get sued as a landman is to not be a landman. Outside of that, anybody can sue anybody for anything."— Lee Carr
• "Just a simple deposition—you're clicking off at probably an eight to ten thousand dollar bill leaving there, and then the transcript's going to be $800 to $1,000."— Lee Carr
• "Dance as if nobody's watching, but text and email as if it'll be read aloud in court one day."— Lee Carr
• "The best thing is don't ignore it. Litigation's not like a cold that just goes away if you try to ride it out."— Lee Carr

Key Takeaways

1. Litigation avoidance is impossible—focus on risk mitigation
2. Clear agency disclosure protects against liability exposure
3. Document everything but qualify your work product limitations
4. Professional communication standards prevent costly mistakes
5. Immediate legal counsel engagement when litigation hits
6. Subpoena compliance requires understanding jurisdictional limits
7. File retention policies must be documented and consistently applied

Help us improve our podcast! Share your thoughts in our quick survey.⁠

Resources

• Need Help With A Project? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meet With Dudley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Need Help with Staffing? Connect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dudley Staffing ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Streamline Your Title Process with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dudley Select Title⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Watch On ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Follow Dudley Land Co. On⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Have Questions? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

More From Our Guests

• • Lee Carr on LinkedIn
  • Brian Wittpenn on LinkedIn
  • Kearney, McWilliams & Davis, PLLC website

More from Our Hosts

• Connect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Brent⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on LinkedIn

• Connect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Khalil ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on LinkedIn

Connect With Us

Ready to protect your land projects with integrated legal and title support? Our Dudley Select Title division works seamlessly with experienced oil and gas counsel to keep your deals on track and defensible. Contact us to learn how our complete energy partnership approach includes the legal expertise that matters when stakes are high.

Veteran landman David Dachner shares his remarkable career journey, from having $1,000 to his name to building a multi-million-dollar oil and gas portfolio in the Austin Chalk. This candid conversation reveals how integrity, relationship-building, and strategic persistence transformed both his professional success and personal mission to give back through philanthropy in Honduras and personal development programs.

What You’ll Learn

• How to build lasting success through integrity and authentic relationships with landowners
• Strategic approaches to surviving oil industry downturns and market cycles
• The power of specializing in one geological formation for long-term profitability
• How personal transformation can enhance rather than compromise professional success
• Practical wisdom for balancing career ambition with meaningful impact

Time Stamps

• 00:49 Episode & Guest Intro
• 02:45 David's Early Life and Career Beginnings
• 07:02 Navigating the Oil Industry in the 80s
• 09:36 Challenges and Successes in Amarillo
• 19:53 The Importance of Integrity and Relationships
• 27:56 The Fast-Paced Culture of America
• 28:45 Building Trust and Rapport as a Landman
• 31:24 The Importance of Giving Back
• 33:04 Discovery Programs and Personal Transformation
• 36:36 The Abundant Life Foundation in Honduras
• 41:38 Balancing Career and Philanthropy
• 45:04 A Life-Changing Epiphany
• 49:25 The Journey of Personal and Professional Growth
• 52:52 Creating a Culture of Integrity and Purpose
• 56:49 Episode Outro

Snippets from the Episode

• "I always believed in the quality of life, not the quantity of life. I feel number one is I think we are, first of all, a giving industry."— David Dachner
• "I went through this program, and one night they said, 'I want you to write 10 pages on what your life is going to be like if you don't get what you want.' I woke up at five o'clock in the morning, and I had a spiritual epiphany where I encountered what I believed to be the Christ in my room. It changed my heart, and I gave my life to him that day."— David Dachner
• "Find the purpose in what you're doing. Find the why. Why are you doing it? You know how to do it and what you're doing, but why are you doing it?"— David Dachner

Key Takeaways

1. Austin Chalk Specialization Strategy
2. Integrity-Based Relationship Building
3. Surviving Industry Downturns Through Persistence
4. Balancing Professional Success with Personal Mission
5. The Roy Landowner Generosity Story
6. Personal Transformation at Age 41
7. Creating Culture Through Purpose-Driven Leadership

Help us improve our podcast! Share your thoughts in our quick survey.

Resources

• Need Help With A Project? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meet With Dudley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Need Help with Staffing? Connect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dudley Staffing ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Streamline Your Title Process with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dudley Select Title⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Watch On ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Follow Dudley Land Co. On⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Have Questions? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

More From David Dachner

• • David Dachner on LinkedIn
  • Discovery Programs
  • Abundant Life Foundation
  • Kimpton Grand Roatan Resort and Spa
• 
  

More from Our Hosts

• Connect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Brent⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on LinkedIn

• Connect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Khalil ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on LinkedIn

Connect With Us

Ready to hear more landman success stories and industry insights? Subscribe to The Land Department podcast and connect with us on LinkedIn. Know a landman with an inspiring story? Send us their name - we're building a library of industry biographies that showcase the incredible people in our business.

Texas Tech Energy Commerce faculty Kellie Estes and Jeremy Martin join us for an in-depth look at how one of the industry's premier energy education programs prepares students for careers spanning oil & gas, renewables, and commercial energy markets. From their rigorous capstone projects to alumni networks that span decades, discover what makes Tech graduates stand out and how the program has evolved to meet today's diverse energy landscape.

What You’ll Learn

• How Texas Tech's Energy Commerce program has evolved beyond traditional landman training to cover the full energy spectrum
• The admission requirements and curriculum structure that makes Energy Commerce one of the most challenging business majors
• Why work ethic and communication skills trump perfect grades in building successful energy careers
• How capstone projects simulate real-world deal-making from asset acquisition through production
• The role of alumni networks and industry partnerships in student success and program development

Time Stamps

• 00:41 - Episode & Guest Intro
• 02:04 - Kelly's Journey with Energy Commerce
• 04:30 - Jeremy's Return to Lubbock
• 08:19 - Energy Commerce Program Overview
• 13:20 - Team Building and Capstone Projects
• 19:28 - Alumni Involvement and Industry Relevance
• 23:50 - Evolving Curriculum and Industry Shifts
• 26:18 - Characteristics of Successful Students
• 28:12 - Changes in the Program Over the Years
• 30:02 - Preparing Students for Renewable Energy
• 31:53 - Internship Opportunities and Expectations
• 35:07 - Balancing Traditional and Modern Education
• 38:38 - Maintaining High Standards and Enrollment
• 42:27 - Embracing AI and Technological Advancements
• 51:19 - Conclusion and Contact Information

Snippets from the Episode

• "We give them a 12 to 18 month head start, and after that it's up to them to keep learning, to keep progressing, but we give them that foundation."— Kellie Estes
• "Work ethic is always the top for me. We've had many students come through here that have been C students and gone on to have a great career because they think outside the box."— Jeremy Martin
• "There's so many different opportunities in this industry. There's a place for everyone."— Kellie Estes
• "AI is only as good as the person being able to use it or disseminate the information."— Jeremy Martin
• "Land work is land work. You gotta have it, whether it's oil and gas, a solar farm, a wind farm, whatever. The basics that we teach them, that's going to translate over into either side of it."— Jeremy Martin

Key Takeaways

1. Program Structure and Standards Matter
2. Alumni Networks Drive Industry Success
3. Real-World Experience Beats Perfect Grades
4. Communication Skills Are Non-Negotiable
5. Energy Diversity Creates More Career Paths
6. Work Ethic Trumps Natural Talent
7. Industry Evolution Requires Curriculum Adaptation

Resources

• Need Help With A Project? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meet With Dudley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Need Help with Staffing? Connect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dudley Staffing ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Streamline Your Title Process with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dudley Select Title⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Watch On ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Follow Dudley Land Co. On⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Have Questions? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

More From Our Guests

Kellie Estes - Director, Center for Energy Commerce, Texas Tech University

• Website:⁠ https://www.ttu.edu/⁠
• ⁠Contact Information⁠

Jeremy Martin - Assistant Professor of Practice, Energy Commerce & Business Economics

• Website: ⁠https://www.ttu.edu/⁠
• ⁠Contact Information⁠

More from Our Hosts

• Connect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Brent⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on LinkedIn

• Connect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Khalil ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on LinkedIn

Summary

Texas moves closer to primacy for carbon capture and sequestration projects as legal frameworks evolve and landmen navigate an increasingly complex regulatory landscape. Our expert guests break down the latest developments in CCS permitting, pore space ownership, and the practical challenges of putting these massive projects together in today's market.

What You’ll Learn

• Current status of Texas primacy for CCS well permitting and expected timeline
• How pore space ownership varies between Texas and Louisiana
• Why large contiguous properties remain essential for CCS project success
• The role of unitization and integration in future CCS development
• Pipeline challenges that could make or break project economics
• Legal considerations around plume migration and potential tort issues

Time Stamps

• 01:00 - Episode & Guest Introductions
• 03:00 - Primacy in Texas
• 06:00 - Primacy in Other States
• 13:00 - Challenges and Considerations in Louisiana
• 17:00 - CCS in West Virginia and Other States
• 21:00 - Ownership & Legal Issues in Texas
• 31:00 - Understanding Carbon Capture Injection Projects
• 33:00 - Challenges in Securing Agreements for Carbon Capture
• 34:00 - Cost and Timeline of Carbon Capture Projects
• 35:00 - Legal Considerations in Carbon Capture
• 39:00 - Unitization and Integration in Carbon Capture
• 47:00 - Pipeline Challenges in Carbon Capture

Snippets from the Episode

• "The state agency that's been responsible for administering the rules for oil and gas development and has this huge store of knowledge is now going to administer the rules for carbon capture, which is something of an inverse process to oil and gas development."— Jerry Walrath
• "One of the biggest things that I find day to day that is consuming my time is you have a lack of regulation, and you have a lot of first-of-kind commercial arrangements because you're joining groups together that have not been joined before into what looks kind of like a traditional oil and gas transaction."— KC McAdam
• "In Louisiana, you're gonna flip that on its head - the surface owner owns the pore space, but there may be oil and gas activity, you're gonna want to make sure that you're covering yourself from the other angle."— KC McAdam

Key Takeaways

• Texas Primacy Progress - MOA Signed, But Timeline Uncertain
• Pore Space Ownership Varies Significantly by State
• Large Contiguous Properties Remain Essential for Early Projects
• Unitization Rules Needed for Future CCS Development
• Pipeline Economics Can Make or Break Project Viability
• Legal Frameworks Still Evolving Around Plume Migration
• First-of-Kind Commercial Arrangements Create New Challenges

Help us improve our podcast! Share your thoughts in our quick survey.

Resources

• Need Help With A Project? ⁠⁠⁠⁠Meet With Dudley⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Need Help with Staffing? Connect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠Dudley Staffing ⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Streamline Your Title Process with ⁠⁠⁠⁠Dudley Select Title⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Watch On ⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Follow Dudley Land Co. On⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠
• Have Questions? ⁠⁠⁠⁠Email us⁠⁠⁠⁠

More from Our Guest

Jerry Walrath - Partner, KMW Energy Law

• Website: kmwenergylaw.com
• Connect with Jerry Walrath on LinkedIn

KC McAdam - CCS Legal and Commercial Specialist

• Specializes in hard-to-abate industries and CCS project development
• Connect with KC McAdam on LinkedIn

More from Our Hosts

• Connect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠Brent⁠⁠⁠⁠ on LinkedIn

• Connect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠Khalil ⁠⁠⁠⁠on LinkedIn

Ready to navigate the evolving CCS landscape? Whether you're working on carbon capture projects or need expertise across traditional and renewable energy development, Dudley Land Company brings 45+ years of energy expertise to every project. From pore space agreements to pipeline corridors, we're your complete energy partner with integrated solutions that keep projects on time and on budget.

Visit us at dudleylandcompany.com or connect with our team to discuss how our experience in both oil and gas and emerging energy sectors can support your next project.

We talk team growth, recruitment struggles, and the trends shaping the next wave of energy projects. From promotions and new hires to the ongoing challenge of finding top talent, the conversation sheds light on what’s happening behind the scenes. With humor and real-world insights, Brent, Brandon, and Steve share how they’re adapting to a busy, ever-changing market.

Time Stamps

• 01:00 - Episode Intro
• 03:30 - Company Announcements and Promotions
• 06:45 - New Hires and Team Updates
• 10:17 - Conferences Golf Tournaments
• 16:22 - Industry Activity and Market Trends
• 20:57- Renewable Energy Outlook
• 21:24 - Data Centers and Energy Integration
• 23:51 - Challenges in Staffing and Recruitment
• 33:31 - Regional Differences in Landman Sourcing
• 41:25 - Summer Plans and Future Outlook

Snippets from the Episode

• "All of a sudden, you’re seeing a shift from ‘oil and gas is bad and green is good’ to ‘now we need oil and gas.’ Data centers might be the bridge that brings everyone together." -Steve
• "If you’re starting to look for landmen when you need to staff a job, you’re already too late. You have to be aggressive and proactive to keep good people on your projects." -Brent
• “We’re definitely seeing a little uptick in new energy projects like hydrogen, lithium, and geothermal, which is a great opportunity for landmen to adapt and grow.” -Brandon

Help us improve our podcast! Share your thoughts in our quick survey.

Resources

• Need Help With A Project? ⁠Meet With Dudley⁠
• Need Help with Staffing? Connect with ⁠Dudley Staffing ⁠
• Streamline Your Title Process with ⁠Dudley Select Title⁠
• Watch On ⁠Youtube⁠
• Follow Dudley Land Co. On ⁠LinkedIn⁠
• Subscribe To Our Newsletter, The Land Dept. Monthly
• Have Questions? ⁠Email us⁠

More from Our Hosts

• Connect with ⁠Brent⁠ on LinkedIn
• Connect with ⁠Brandon⁠ on LinkedIn
• Connect with ⁠Steve⁠ on LinkedIn
• Connect with ⁠Khalil⁠ on LinkedIn

How do you scale teams, develop leaders, and stay ahead of AI changes? From staffing shortages in division order roles to implementing quarterly "rocks" for execution, this behind-the-scenes look covers the real challenges of running land projects in today's market.

Time Stamps

• 00:51 - Episode Intro
• 01:31 - New Projects and Kickoff Calls
• 03:10 - Due Diligence and Planning
• 08:45 - In-House Services and Staffing Challenges
• 16:06 - Leadership Transition & Development
• 19:42 - Effective Delegation and Team Building
• 21:40 - Implementing Company-Wide Initiatives
• 22:40 - Team Growth and Community Involvement
• 23:36 - Implementing Lean Principles
• 26:02 - Scaling Up with Rocks
• 32:12 - AI in Title Examination
• 37:48 - Kudu Land System

Snippets from the Episode

• The real power is gonna come when you can take an AI and have it retrieve and combine information from your brokerage land system with your in-house system and your well files and lease analysis, and all those things. When it can marry all that seamlessly, that's when you're gonna really see the power, and when you can prompt it accordingly. -Brent
• Team building is not about the trust falls; it's about understanding what your strengths and weaknesses are, being able to read what other people's strengths and weaknesses are, and how to communicate with those people. How do you take ownership as a project manager to ensure that every time you fire up something new, it's not a new experience, right? It's just a new scenario, and you're applying those tactics. -Brent
• How do you elevate your team? Sometimes, elevating your team is delegating and letting go of some of the things that you're doing that you're not doing as well as you should be. -Brent

⁠Help us improve our podcast! Share your thoughts in our quick survey.⁠

Resources

• TLD 045 - Inside Kudu: The Land Management Suite
• TLD 042 - Enverus and AI with Colin Westmoreland
• TLD 023 - AI for Landmen with Jerris Johnson

• Need Help With A Project? ⁠⁠Meet With Dudley⁠⁠
• Need Help with Staffing? Connect with ⁠⁠Dudley Staffing ⁠⁠
• Streamline Your Title Process with ⁠⁠Dudley Select Title⁠⁠
• Watch On ⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠
• Follow Dudley Land Co. On⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠
• Have Questions? ⁠⁠Email us⁠⁠

More from Our Hosts

• Connect with ⁠⁠Brent⁠⁠ on LinkedIn
• Connect with ⁠⁠Khalil ⁠⁠on LinkedIn

From being a VP of Land at 26, to teaching high school English, to leading a national energy association — Nancy McCaskell’s journey is anything but ordinary. In this episode, she shares powerful lessons on leadership, resilience, and how to inspire the next generation.

Time Stamps

• 00:52 - Episode & Guest Intro
• 03:39 - Nancy's Career Beginnings
• 07:09 - VP of Land at 26
• 11:59 - Transition to Teaching
• 13:09 - Leadership and Mentorship
• 22:35 - The Importance of Trust and Authenticity
• 26:44 - Challenges and Growth
• 28:59 - Building Relationships and Delegation
• 31:02 - The Importance of Honest Feedback
• 33:59 - Philanthropy and Community Involvement
• 37:57 - Leadership and Career Development
• 40:17 - The Role of AAPL in Supporting Landmen
• 46:30 - Governmental Affairs and Lobbying Efforts
• 50:42 - Adapting to the Evolving Energy Sector
• 54:05 - The Importance of Education and Networking
• 57:50 - Reflections on a Year as AAPL President
• 59:31 - Closing Remarks and Future Plans

Snippets from the Episode

• “ Energy is a rollercoaster business, and we have to make certain that people understand that. But it's a good business, it goes from the practical to things that no one thinks about every day, like national security and energy, and where's that gonna go, and what part do you play.” -Nancy McCaskell
•  ”Living it every day. It is the same practices and principles. The terminology changes a little bit, but land work is land work. We live it. Land work is land work.” -Patrick Durman
• “ There's so much to it, and it's ever evolving. We're always gonna need energy. There's, there's, there's no denying that. We gotta have more electric utilities. We've gotta have more pipeline.” -Brent Broussard
•  ”Somebody had to buy those right-of-ways, and that's us. Somebody had to be able to go out and get permission to do that, and that's us. We're landmen, we do that. We don't drill the wells, but we make it possible. That makes me proud of what we do.” -Nancy McCaskell

Help us improve our podcast! Share your thoughts in our quick survey.

Resources

• Need Help With A Project? ⁠⁠⁠Meet With Dudley⁠⁠⁠
• Need Help with Staffing? Connect with ⁠⁠⁠Dudley Staffing ⁠⁠⁠
• Streamline Your Title Process with ⁠⁠⁠Dudley Select Title⁠⁠⁠
• Watch On ⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠
• Follow Dudley Land Co. On⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠
• Have Questions? ⁠⁠⁠Email us⁠⁠⁠

More from Our Guest

• Connect with⁠ Nancy⁠ on LinkedIn
• AAPL ⁠website⁠
• Masonboro Energy ⁠website

More from Our Hosts

• Connect with ⁠⁠⁠Brent⁠⁠⁠ on LinkedIn
• Connect with Patrick on LinkedIn
• Connect with ⁠⁠⁠Khalil ⁠⁠⁠on LinkedIn

How do successful leaders balance work and personal life while building incredible teams? Join Brent Broussard and Zack Oliva as they share their experiences and lessons on energy leadership.

Time Stamps

• 00:41 - Episode & Guest Intro
• 03:41 - Elevating Leadership Through Perspective
• 10:18 - Importance of Feedback and Communication
• 19:06 - Balancing Work and Personal Life
• 24:29 - Encouraging Work-Life Balance in the Team
• 25:47 - Priorities and Focus
• 27:11 - Building Systems for Idea Management
• 29:05 - Challenges in Execution
• 36:21 - Team Structures and Leadership Development
• 38:19 - Creating a Culture of Appreciation
• 42:03 - Effective Communication and Team Dynamics
• 44:47 - Traits of Successful Team Players
• 50:24 - Client Relationships and Success
• 56:38 - Leadership and Personal Growth
• 01:02:08 - Zack Oliva's Contact Details

Snippets from the Episode

• "I find with people issues, and leadership issues, and sometimes strategic issues, it's better to just take a step back for a little bit and try and get that altitude." -Zack
• "I think of weekends as my reward for a week, a week I worked hard at. I think of it as a precondition for me to be able to show up on Monday and perform with a team." -Zack
• "The worst thing you can do is look down upon someone you're asking to work for you." -Brent
• " You're only as good as the people you work with." -Brent

Help us improve our podcast! Share your thoughts in our quick survey.

Resources

• Need Help With A Project? ⁠Meet With Dudley⁠
• Need Help with Staffing? Connect with ⁠Dudley Staffing ⁠
• Streamline Your Title Process with ⁠Dudley Select Title⁠
• Watch On ⁠Youtube⁠
• Follow Dudley Land Co. On⁠ LinkedIn⁠
• Have Questions? ⁠Email us⁠

More from Our Guest

• Oliva Gibbs Website
• Zack Oliva on LinkedIn

More from Our Hosts

• Connect with ⁠Brent⁠ on LinkedIn
• Connect with ⁠Khalil ⁠on LinkedIn