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S4E11 - All The Typographic Feels13 janv. 202500:49:51

What kind of year has it been in type‽ Josh and Kyle have much to reflect on from 2024, and even though they try to do it with a chill vibe, it's hard to ignore all the energy coming from the type world. Kyle can't quite pin down how 2024 made him feel, but he finds the strength to forgive all those unnecessary ligatures. Meanwhile, Josh identifies a Times New Roman assassin and thinks we might be getting a little too creative with our minisites. And in the end, the two can't agree on whether or not 2025 will be full of weirdness or not, I guess it's up to all of us to find out...

Links to everything discussed in this episode:
Place from Commercial Type
Exact from Signal Type
Valve from Pangram Pangram

S4E10 - Stockings Full Of Fonts20 déc. 202400:36:46

Have you ever wanted to find a font specimen underneath the tree on Christmas morning‽ Then you might just be...a type person. With gifting season upon us, it is once again time for Josh and Kyle to bring you their favorite physical media from indie foundries and shops, ranging from type that is cuddly to tools that facilitate play to a hat that might just help you get lucky at the bar. And we're really into pencils on this podcast if you're into that sort of thing too. Josh also has a very Grinchy present for Kyle this year, and won't be waiting until Arbor Day to give it to him...

Online type shops:
Letterform Archive Shop
Good Type Shop
Letterperson Shop
Hamilton Wood Type Museum Shop
Draw Down Books
Counter Print Books
Present & Correct

Type specimens for your favorite type nerd:
Sharp Type Volume One
A Concise Synopsis of the Commercial Type Library as of June 2024
After Michaux Type Specimen
Otto: A Tale of a Boy and a Tail — ABC Dinamo
Kelli Anderson Books

Gift ideas for that last minute (or Arbor Day) gift:
Typotheque Strokes Tote
Specimen Cap — Grilli Type
Nebulith Throw Blanket — Space Type Co.
Alphabet Runner Stamps — Present & Correct
Letter Love Postcard Set — Letterform Archive
Zuzana Licko 'g' Throw Blanket — Letterform Archive
Karl Martens 2025 Calendar — Draw Down
Universal Stencil Plate — Draw Down



S4E9 - Gather 'Round Our Typographic Table27 nov. 202400:44:01

What’s your starchiest font‽ It’s Turkey Time again people, and we have once again laid out a five-course meal of our favorite fonts from 2024! So get ready to devour gorgeous backslants, crunchy fonts with no curves, and New Jersey license plate letters that say "I'm walking here!". You’ll wash it all down with tipsy mono italics and finish up with everyone’s favorite anarchical type masterpiece. Whether you clean your plate or not, there's plenty for everyone. May it never be said that the Interrogang table is not inclusive of weirdos…

Your 2024 Thanksgiving Day spread:
Sharp Earth from Sharp Type
MD Lorien from Mass Driver
Ohno Backslant from the Ohno Type Drawer
Glammo from Signal Type
NaN Rage from NaN
Euchre from Okay Type
Ceraph from Sharp Type
Piet from TypeMates
Michaeux from Plain Form
Vanity from Order Type Foundry
Armond from Badson Type Foundry

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S4E8 - Shifting Into Neutral19 nov. 202400:44:12

Why do we think of neutrality as a dirty word‽ Josh and Kyle highlight what makes neutral typefaces integral to the lifeblood of modern type design, both creatively and economically. Now, it may sound like such a conversation might be pretty middle-of-the-road (ya know, neutral), but a lot of ground is covered here. Does the specter of Helvetica loom over all neutral sans designs? When should we look to remove cultural inspirations from our designs? How do serifs fit into the world of neutrality? Should you do a rollout from a moving airplane? Why is Josh still on this podcast? All good questions...

Links to everything that we discussed in this episode:
Baumer Grotesk from Erkin Karamemet
Booton from Displaay Type Foundry
Airport from Revolver Type
Degular, Retail, and Camelion from Ohno Type Co
Sharp Earth from Sharp Type
Big Issue from Blast Foundry
The Recast Collection from Dalton Maag
Gamay from Darden Studio
Melun from Lift Type
Paramount from Production Type
Cortese Sans from Mark Van Leewen
Icona Serif from Suitcase Type
GT Pantheon from Grilli Type
GT Flaire from Grilli Type
CoFo Holz from Contrast Foundry

Neutraljuice, Neutraljuice, Neutraljuice!

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S4E7 - Engineered Terror30 oct. 202400:40:38

What fonts are best for your scariest messages‽ It's the annual Halloween episode and the guys have unearthed a plethora of fonts to make your skin crawl. From fonts that just returned from the torture chamber, to sweet fonts with a dark side, to plant-like alien protuberances, it's a ghoulish typographic menu. Then, Josh has prepared four Halloween short stories, each requiring Kyle to conjure up a font to truly get those goosebumps working. So gather 'round a campfire for this one folks, and when you hear the clown's laughter, don't linger...

Links to every terror-ific font discussed in this episode:
Synch by James Plattner on Future Fonts
Marjoree from ShowMeFonts
Very Bauble from Letterror
Cascorro 18 from Manufacturas Tipográficas Madrileñas
Eurocat from MaxiType
Macabre from James Coleman on Future Fonts
Nostra Stream from Plain Form
Glob from Resistenza

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S4E6 - Yeah, Baby!28 sept. 202400:51:00

What makes for a good name‽ In this very special episode of the Interrogang, there's reason to celebrate as Josh and his wife welcome their first child into the world. So, we're throwing a font-themed baby shower! Kyle takes the reins in this episode and devizes baby shower mini-games, naming challenges, and (maybe not so helpful) friendly suggestions for baby names inspired by the type world itself. We even have a special guest to join in on the fun: our very own editor Andrew finally comes out from behind the mixing board and in front of the mic. And as much as we wanted to, we couldn’t bring ourselves to title the episode “Quirky Spermo”. Didn’t seem like a good parenting decision…


Links to typefaces and things mentioned in this episode: 

Extraset's ES Park

Monotype's Global Type Use Survey

GT Pantheon


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S4E5 - Friendly Does Not Equal Perfect12 sept. 202400:39:55

What does Google know about what fonts are made of‽ Josh and Kyle turn once again, despite their better judgement, to Google in everyone's favorite Interrogame to see how well Google's AI can answer your questions about fonts. It's a mixed bag, but once you listen to the episode you might just learn that gothic fonts are from the Gothic era, that modern fonts attended leadership training, and that Mr. Rogers had some enemies. Google may not always wax philosophical on type, but Kyle sure can (for *most* people)...

Links to everything that we discussed in this episode:
Gatwick Collection from Pangram Pangram

Source of the word "cromulent" for any non-Simpsons fans out there

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S4E4 - The Potential Ahead28 août 202400:39:30

How old is too old for a font‽ There's a lot of discussion around the age of a font in this episode, as we tour recent modern medieval designs that don't look the way you think they do, question the value of fonts released decades ago, and wonder why we continue to put up with Papyrus. Josh is all about calligraphy, and Kyle has found that gravestone under a depressing tree glyph you were always looking for. Once the judges scores were tallied up, though, it's clear: Josh put on a podcasting masterclass...

Remember: Respect your elders and freshness counts!

Links to everything that we discussed in this episode:
The calligraphic tour:
Pahin from Blaze Type
Tradition from Bold Decisions
Sharp Roman from Sharp Type

Elizabeth Goodspeed's Heralding the ancient and otherworldly charm of Future Medieval graphics on It's Nice That

Recent medieval releases:
Mancine from Herzberg Design Co.
Clavichord from DJR’s Font of the Month club
Narwa designed by Lewis McGuffie and released on Future Fonts
Gil Modern from CAST Foundry
Fulgora from Sudtipos
Emeritus from Blaze Type
Neue Heitz from Pretend Foundry

Proof of Words
Covenant
Garnier
Alara
Limerick

The Bottle Dance from Fiddler on the Roof

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S4E3 - A Multiverse of Font Madness14 août 202400:38:43

Are we entering an entirely new universe of font genres‽ It's becoming harder and harder to classify genres in typography, and many of the newer releases are just exacerbating that difficulty. Whether it's finding whimsy in your text serifs where it doesn't belong, a dot font that abandons all conscious typographic reality, or a new-fangled approach we're calling a "multi-genre" font, new fonts are as alive and creative and confusing as they've ever been. That is, unless Kyle succeeds at taking us back to Ancient Rome...

Links to everything that we discussed in this episode:
Sylvain Boyer explains the story behind the Olympic logo
Olympic typefaces through history
The Variable font designed for Nike from Pizza Typefaces
Gramercy from Dinamo
Gamuth from Production Type
NaN Tragedy from NaN
Columba from East of Rome
Scatterplot from Cast Type Foundry

Some examples of what we think are "multi-genre":
Arsen from Typofounderie
Notice from Erkin Karamemet
Trust from MCKL Type

Articles about "Infillism":
Emigre: Time and Time Again on the Fontstand Blog
Response to this Infillism essay by Klim Type foundry's Kris Sowersby: Welcome to the Infill Font Foundry
Response to these essays by Stephen Coles on Typographica: Rejecting Infillism and Waterfalls of Mediocrity

And we assume that you certainly don't remember that Armour Hot Dog jingle

Armour Fonts, the fonts kids love to bite!

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S4E2 - Rebrand Cliff Diving31 juil. 202400:35:00

How adventurous can a big corporate font rebrand really be‽ Obviously, there's a lot of room for improvement there and Josh has a bold new direction for Chipotle to go. The guys also talk Olympic logos, handwritten fonts that make you feel seen, a foundry's equivalent of the Burger King Kid's Club, and the trials and tribulations of font pairing. And Fonty McFontface has a cool new type release that you should definitely check out...

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Links to everything that we discussed in this episode:
A writeup on some past Olympic logos
All the past Summer Olympic logos from the great sportslogos.net
Cornbread from MaxiType
Production Type Font Playlists
Red Hat and Redaction from MCKL Type
Premier, TypeTogether’s distribution service
Typotheque Club
Spotify Mix
Early Sans and Late Serif from Character Type
Badson Type Foundry

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S4E1 - This Is Typographic Anarchy17 juil. 202400:40:04

Did you miss us‽ It's been a while and we've got a lot of ground to cover to make up for lost time. This episode has font help for indie comic designers, football jersey oopsies, and a serif wave crashing to shore. We also explore the concept of a juice cleanse for font foundries and introduce a font release that makes us question our very existence. It's a weird one, but we're into weird...

Links to everything that we discussed in this episode:
Stringer from Order Type
MD Lorien from Mass Driver
Columba from East of Rome
NaN Serf from NaN
Octave from Faire Type
Indoor Kid from Font of the Month Club
Sharp Type Phase 2
Sharp Type Volume One
Man City Club Jersey Kit
Forvm from Coppers & Brasses
Michaux from Plain Form
The Proof&Co. 2023 Annual Report

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A Quick Programming Update17 mai 202400:03:14

“Where are all the new Interrogang episodes‽” you, our gentle listener, may be asking yourself. Here’s a quick programming update and a brief trip on the Hogwarts Express. 

Rewind 10 - Typographic Rule Breaking07 mars 202400:17:36

Are all type rules meant to be broken‽ We take you back to our convo about the pros and cons of challenging the so-called "rules" of good type design in this Rewind episode.

We reference the type used in the credits of some films and TV shows a few times in this episode: Loki, The Favourite, and Deathstalker and the Warriors from Hell.

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Rewind 09 - Artistic Feedback14 févr. 202400:19:52

Where is all the artistic feedback that we so crave‽ Tech Master Andrew sends us back to our discussion from Season 2 in which the guys wonder how we are supposed to develop as designers in this criticism-filled world we live in.

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Rewind 08 - Font or Fine Wine30 janv. 202400:18:53

Can you tell the difference between a font description and a description of a bottle of wine‽ Kyle was put to this ridiculous test with his type reputation on the line. Hear how well he fared in this Rewind episode.

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Week 50 - Taking The Hopeful Route27 déc. 202300:47:38

What's next for type in 2024‽ We're all about FUN this episode (finally), and with a new year rapidly approaching, Josh and Kyle look back on what this past year has been like for independent type and make some hopeful predictions for the future. It also seems like as good a time as any to clear the air and start fresh, so Josh tells us why he doesn't need your ampersand and Kyle will allow a free font, if only to prove he's not crotchety. It was a huge year, the universe of indie type was ever-expanding, and we tried to cram it all into this one episode. Did we succeed? Nah, but we all need room to do better next year...

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Asoma from James Plattner
Burghi from CAST
Hour from 205TF

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Week 49 - Fonting In A Winter Wonderland14 déc. 202300:38:58

Who will help guide Santa's sleigh tonight‽ It's our annual Gift Guide review, and although Josh has had too much eggnog, Kyle the Red-Nosed Reindeer is here to help finish out your holiday shopping list. There are pencils that will encourage you to sketch more, apparel for your naked designer friends, tools for adding typography into your next woodworking project, and more than enough globby holiday spirit. And Josh responds to a fan letter with "Yes Virginia, There is a Perfect Font" to remind us of the true meaning of Christmas: loving the fonts you're with...

Happy Holidays!

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Synt from ABC Dinamo
Esperanza from Labor & Wait
Ease from Studio Feixen
Calyx from Blaze Type

From Santa's Type Toy Shop:
Alphabet Keytags from Colophon
"Fully Charged" Pencils from PSTL
Jokker Cards from Displaay Type
Letraset-Inspired Sticker Sheets from Toko Type
"You Live and You Kern" Sweatshirt from Goodtype
'Footnotes' Socks from PSTL
.NOTDEF Glyph I Love You from Bastarda Type
Shift Happens by Marcin Wichary
Letraset, the DIY Typography Revolution by Adrian Shaughnessy
Mono is the New Black from Counter Print
ABC Connector Plates & Fonts from ABC Dinamo
Blockface Kit from Open Press Project
Rails & Tiles from Shop at Matter
Typography options for house numbers from Door No. Co.

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Week 46 - A Smorgasbord of Fonts21 nov. 202300:33:22

How much typography can one person possibly consume‽ We intend to find out this week as we foodify some of our favorite releases from this year and fill our plates with typefaces, all in the name of being thankful for this year's font harvest. We've got entrees that will get you toned, starchy fonts that remind us of the power of potatoes, cool and refreshing display types, and sugar-coated fonts to round out your meal and your year. With such an incredible array, we enter the holiday season typographically satiated, overstuffed, and maybe encountering the slightest bit of Regrets...

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Qommodore from Production Type
Nicola from Commercial Type
Minetto from Dalton Maag
RST Thundra and RST Mazumbá from Reset Type

Your 2023 Thanksgiving spread:
Arbale  from Typofonderie
Terza from Commercial Type
Octavia from Flavia Zimbardi & Tida Tep
Fugit from Counter Forms
Forager from Overlap Type
Gamuth from Production Type
Ozik Soft from Nuform Type
Aligne from Leinster Type
MD IO from Mass Driver
Glazier from Positype
Kablammo from Vectro Type

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Week 45 - Brand Schmand15 nov. 202300:36:03

Can an iconic brand also be a dynamic one‽ This episode starts with a good font with which to sell hugs, a new release that also serves as a marketing exercise, and two handwriting fonts, only one of which is born of hand writing. Then, Josh has to rant about how the ever-changing NBA jerseys are examples of poor branding, and even though Kyle may not exactly disagree, there's a chance the guys are simply behind the times. But at least they are partners in confusion, and we can all agree that good branding has a through line and Pepsi reeks of desperation...

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Ozik Soft from Nuform Type
Scatch from Tipographies
Dash from Typotheque
Superscript from Positype

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Week 44 Releases - Long Live The Superfamilies09 nov. 202300:23:05

Did you know that font releases come in all sizes‽ Of course you did, you've been listening to this podcast for almost three years now. The releases keep getting bigger and bigger this week, and we start by pulling Gantry out of Ohno Type Co's dangerous Drawer, then we get old-timey with Ephemera Font's Osbert, followed by the jive-inducing Name Mono from ArrowType, and finishing with the behemoth that is Sharp Type's Sharp Grotesk Global. Now If we could only get Kyle to start paying attention to any of this, we might be on to something...

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Week 43 - Fonts That Go Bump In The Night30 oct. 202300:40:43

What are the best fonts for horrifying candy creations‽ This is our annual Halloween episode and Josh has the mad scientist credentials to meet the occasion. He and Art Director Ygor introduce you to the next generation of Halloween candy and the fonts they will use to sell them. The guys also discuss what haunts them in type, ancient incantations to rid us all of a particular typeface's curse, a font that is already filling its Piehole, and the reason Kyle is never stylin'. So grab a potato sack of Novaburst and give in to the insanity, your Trick or Treat bag might get a little heavy this year...

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Viroqua from Mark Simonson Studio
Done from Ohno Type Co.
Arsen from Typofonderie
Forager from Overlap Type Foundry
Fitzroy from Cantrell Type Foundry
Spell from Lift Type

Fonts perfect for new and horrifying Halloween candy:
Caraque from Dalton Maag
Gordian Kapitalen from Typotheque
Alterego from Bold Monday
Forno Wild Waffle from Pizza Typefaces
Megazoid from Font of the Month Club

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Rewind 07 - Monster Business Cards24 oct. 202300:22:59

Have you ever considered the font needs of monsters‽ It's a monster mash (or rather, job fair) for this Rewind episode in which we design business cards for all your favorite Halloween ghosts and ghouls. And, unfortunately, for Fluffles...

And here are the fonts we recommend for the employment-seeking monster in your life:
Oroban from Blaze Type
Ehrie by Blast Foundry on Future Fonts
Ohno Casual Light from Ohno Type Co.
This Man This Monster from Comic Book Fonts
Neptun from la Bolde Vida
Puffin Display Soft Black from Bold Monday
Francesco from Production Type
Dapifer Stencil Bold from Darden Studio
Plakato Paper Pro Regular Italic from Underware
Chee Pickles from Ohno Type Co.
Comic Code by Toshi Omagari

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Week 41 - Don't Overthink It19 oct. 202300:41:20

Why is this podcast so obsessed with the names of fonts‽ Because it's important, that's why! (And fun!) This time, Kyle challenges Josh to come up with his own name for fonts, both real and imagined, to explore the thought process behind how a font gets its name. Turns out, naming a font is quite a journey; in this episode alone we have Chonkboards, we get a little Smoishii, there are Spooky Actions, and even some Tragedy. Is Josh up to the challenge? Ah, what a Cloisterfuch...

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Kit from Darden Studio
Kukulkan from Sudtipos
Anormal from Fred Fonts on Future Fonts
Leopardo from 205TF
VTC Tre from Vocal Type

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Week 39 - Let's Get Wordy12 oct. 202300:43:46

How badly do we all need to expand our type vocabulary‽ This episode starts with Skeleton fonts, a typeface that brings the glom, creative pixelation, and the Goofus and Gallant of font releases, and then the guys rank the definitive* list of type words, phrases, and concepts that everyone should know. Josh just won't let you forget about Blackletter fonts and Kyle is all about those ligatures, but it turns out you probably won't impress people by being able to tell the difference between a dash and a hyphen. And then the 90s came around (heavy sigh)...

*Absolutely not definitive

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Font releases highlighted in this episode:
FT Lambert from FrosType
Routine from Blaze Type
Kyoshi from Alanna Munro
Lardent and Dopple from Colophon Foundry

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Bonus 06 - Introducing TypeCraft29 sept. 202300:10:58

Need more type podcasts in your life‽ We've got you covered! We're expanding our podcasting output with a new show: TypeCraft! TypeCraft is a podcast mini-series with interviews conducted by our very own Kyle Read, where we will hear from some of the biggest names in type. Give this episode a listen to hear who we've got lined up for Season One. Then stick around to solve the mystery of why you've only been listening to Josh for all these years...

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Week 37 - Bless the Freelancers20 sept. 202300:32:26

How much could an agent help freelance designers find work‽ Josh and Kyle put on a suit and tie this week and tackle some business topics. Could tying cost-of-living data to font prices be the way of the future? And what would a world with type design agents look like? Along the way, Josh wants to start a giant game of font naming telephone and Kyle is freelance Robocop. As if there is any question who the weird ones are...

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Doumbar from Atipo Foundry
Basilar from R-Typography
Align from Commercial Type

And check out the pricing model from Counter Forms here.

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Week 36 Releases - Summer Loving13 sept. 202300:23:31

How did all these foundries keep so busy this summer‽ There's so much to cover in this episode: the concept of social kerning, new foundry Adotbelow's explorations of multiculturalism in type, CSTM's Backslanted defying the laws of typographic gravity, Arbale serving as Typofonderie's Avengers, the hints of Helvetica in Typotheque's Münchenstein, the orderly bounciness of Smilena from Melvas Type, and how Colophon's Parent inspired revolution out of Josh. And you'll never guess which one of these fonts we're going to use to sell our asbestos...

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Week 35 - Should We Be Unlearning?06 sept. 202300:34:49

Do you have any bad habits you need to break‽ Josh and Kyle are back in the habit of podcasting, so they wonder how much the traits you develop as you grow up might hold you back as a professional. You probably don't need to unlearn everything you know, because sometimes, your habits just make you who you are. Kyle can't finish what he starts and Josh's arm movements are barely human, but their neural pathways may not allow for much better...

Ten points for Hufflepuff!

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Kibitz from Colophon
MD IO from Mass-Driver
Aligne from Leinster Type
Spades from Order Type Foundry

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Rewind 06 - Snobbery01 sept. 202300:19:28

Aren't we all a snob about something‽ Well, we tried our best not to be too obnoxious about it in this Rewind episode about having strong personal preferences around type.

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Rewind 05 - Rate and Review Fonts16 août 202300:16:30

How many stars does a sensible serif deserve anyway‽ We return to the pros and cons of a widespread font rating system in this week's Rewind.

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Rewind 04 - Getting Rid of Half of All Fonts02 août 202300:16:56

Would you snap your fingers and make 50% of all fonts disappear‽ Will Josh or Kyle put on the gauntlet, or will they send in the Avengers to save the fonts?

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Week 28 - We Seek the Holy Grail20 juil. 202300:30:44

What does it mean to pursue perfection in type design‽ It's summer so maybe we should just hit the pool, but we decided to tackle some big type topics first. There are designers out there working to make the perfect font right now, and maybe Jony Ive's LoveFrom Serif found it, but is it worth the time and energy? The guys think through nobility and ego and legacy and motivation and Dr. Seuss tubas and ultimately find it is akin to a quest for the Holy Grail of fonts: an epic journey that might just be foolish. But, as Kyle reminds us, the true Grail is the fonts you made along the way...

Alright, we've hit enough tennis balls at you, go jump in the pool!

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Coastal from Positype
Brilliante from Black Foundry
Twogether Sans from Sudtipos

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Week 27 - Ethereal Elegance (w/ Lindsey Laseter)15 juil. 202300:51:58

Can you tell the difference between Artificial Intelligence and Human Intelligence‽ Special guest Lindsey Laseter joins the guys this week in Part 3 of our AI series to share her perspective on what AI means to the design world. She leaves the guys actually feeling all warm and fuzzy about it. Then Josh throws font descriptions at Lindsey and Kyle and they have to guess if a human wrote it or if ChatGPT wrote it. It was...surprisingly difficult and left Kyle thoroughly embarrassed. AI might be writing font descriptions sooner than you think. But as long as the lawyers from Friends don't come after us, we'll be ok...

Now, That's Friends!

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Hardcore from Public Type
CoFo Kabeltouw from Contrast Foundry

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Week 26 Releases - Bring On the Creativity07 juil. 202300:24:19

How can we keep up with all these new fonts‽ Well, we cram three weeks of our favorites into one episode, that's how! The guys discuss Commercial Type's Terza at Editor speed, the delightful refinement of Glazier from Positype, and the out-of-this-world influences of Production Type's Paramount. There is also plenty about whether NaN needed the aid of elves to complete the unconventional NaN Metrify superfamily, how Brutalist Aerospace seems like a fascinating oxymoron with the Air Collection from Pangram Pangram, and just how lazy some letters are allowed to be in Overlap Type Foundry's Outgo. But, please, leave the puns to the professionals...

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Week 25 - A Crazy Person, a Type Designer, or Both29 juin 202300:29:12

Does it matter where your inspiration comes from‽ We love hearing about where great design ideas come from, but the guys find that your personal design journey can be just as fun when you just do it your way and don't feel obligated to explain your creative decisions. That said, type designers can find inspiration in just about anything, which explains their love of time traveling fonts, creating "a better Plantin", and manhole covers. So sneeze into a napkin and see what font comes out...

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Kensington from Fort Foundry
Martina Plantijn from Klim Type Foundry
Aro from General Type Studio
Weave from Colophon

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Week 24 - Conform, Conform!22 juin 202300:31:26

How much is Apple dictating the future of typography‽ Whether it's more 3D type, worrying about your font's weight, or making sure there is always a variable option, there could be big changes coming to the type world. Or not. We're not quite sure what the future holds, but at least there are exciting font newsletters to fill our time with...

Proof&Co. releases highlighted in this episode:
The Concierge Newsletter

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Week 23 - Linotype to a New Generation (w/ Doug Wilson)13 juin 202300:35:20

Why is it so hard to book Etaoin Shrdlu‽ Well, we got Doug Wilson instead, who joins the podcast this week to tell us all about his upcoming Linotype Book Project, documenting the history of the famous typesetting machine and its outsized impact on printing, journalism, and society. You can subscribe to this fantastic project at https://linotypebook.com. We know you’ll want to, we don’t even need to use a Jedi mind trick, move along, move along…

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Solfa from R-Typography
Waverse from Typeji on Future Fonts
Keyframe from Plain Form
Ladna and Ladna Faux from the new Typokompanii

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Week 22 - The Seven Deadly Fonts09 juin 202300:39:17

How sinful can a font even be‽ This episode smells a bit of sulfur as the guys dream up designs for fonts named after the Seven Deadly Sins. This "tour-de-sins" overcomes its slothfulness to bring us drippy descenders, smoky serpents, and fonts that look like Spider-Man villains. Kyle might be the least wrathful person you'll ever meet and Josh's biggest sin turns out to be using the word "chonky" too much. And we didn't even get to original sin... 

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Socko from Overlap Type Foundry
Herbik from the new Counter Forms
Miniature from the new Off Type

Exciting announcements:
Typotheque has published an enormous new collection of Georgian Fonts

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Bonus 05 - J'accuse!25 mai 202300:20:35

What are the most "flawless" typefaces out there‽ Well, it's subjective, but type nerd Kyle shares his list for the can't-go-wrong, no-notes independent fonts out there. The guys also dig deep into whether new tech in type constitutes cheating in your design process, or maybe it's just progress, hard to say. And you'll have to listen to hear who Kyle refers to as the "Monstars" of the type world, our first (of hopefully many) ever reference to Space Jam...


Kyle's "flawless" fonts:
Knockout
Miller
Canela

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Week 19 Releases - A Little Context18 mai 202300:18:15

What does a font go through to become a "mutant"‽ This is the question inspired by Signal Type Foundry's release of Reckham this week, and that's not all! We also discuss the affordability of Kimura Sans from Plau Design, Nova Type Foundry's "whipped-cream dollopy" Baga,  why Octavia from Flavia Zimbardi and Tida Tep is the Ethel Merman of fonts, and how the liscensing news about The Freight Collection is big in more ways than one. But still, it doesn't look like any of these fonts will get to join the X-Men...
 
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Week 18 - We Decide To Give It Power12 mai 202300:32:19

How can type design benefit from advancements in AI‽ Kyle's here to tell you how, and whether it's doing the kerning for you, writing your specimen copy, or inspiring new genre mash-ups, Artificial Intelligence might just lead you to the best unpaid intern you've ever had. Then the guys do some soul-searching and identify their "glyph essence". Kyle needs to say "no" more often while Josh has more to say but doesn't want to be a bother...

Signed,
№ & *

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Vitruv Collection from Studio Rene Bieder
Robin from Colophon Foundry
Joc Display by Sabina Kipara on Future Fonts
Scribo from Underware Foundry

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Week 17 - One If By Land, Two If By Sea03 mai 202300:27:55

How big of a threat is the oncoming AI revolution to type design‽ Well, type nerds, it's hard to say. Josh and Kyle assess the threat level that Artificial Intelligence poses to type designers and find that they're actually less worried about it than everyone else seems to be. Kyle is downright positive about its inspirational impact (surprise, surprise) and Josh thinks cheerleaders are better suited for giving you letters than AI currently is. This episode also includes strong, aggressive stencils, requests for italic handshakes, and a helpful start on your Catcher in the Rye essay...
  
Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Tonos from Black Foundry
CoFo Sona from Contrast Foundry
Rillus from Formagari
Bradley VTG Stencil from ASType
Relais Display from Blaze Type

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Week 16 Releases - Made You Look Twice26 avr. 202300:21:39

Some fonts are more than what they seem, aren't they‽ This week, Kyle takes us on a journey through some recent font releases that may seem unassuming at first, but require a double take, like R Typography's Picaresk, a blocky grot that walks the line between a 19th-century Egyptian look and a 1930s Great Gatsby feel. Or the once in-house Onsite from Sociotype, a font so beloved by the foundry that they decided to share it with the world. Or Pizza Typefaces' Hop, which could be rounded, or straight, or straight-rounded, or rounded-straight. There were also some major collection extensions this week with exciting new styles: Yuni Grotesque from Rudiger on Future Fonts and ABC Laica Mono from Dinamo. And as a bonus for listening to the episode, you'll get to hear Josh recite a type-themed version of a Hamlet soliloquy, lucky you...
 
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Week 15 - Answer in the Form of a Question21 avr. 202300:37:30

Ready to play along with some Type Jeopardy‽ Josh and Kyle each play host and contestant in this round, with clues coming from three type-themed categories: Take Me Out to the Ballgame, Catch Me 'Ser'if You Can, and Shared Names. Josh thinks there are such things as "Yielding Serifs" and Kyle has gone insane listening to the Jeopardy theme all week, just to win fake money. It all ends with Tech-Master Andrew trying to stump the guys with video game font trivia. There's much to learn from this episode, ranging from font styles decreed by God to the cast of Gilligan's Island, so buckle up!  Oh, and their names were Mr. and Mrs. Howell...

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Avril from Blaze Type
Indicate Mono from Jonas Type
Vilaage from Fred Fonts on Future Fonts

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Week 14 Releases - Everything Old is New Again12 avr. 202300:20:40

Care to join us on a typographic journey through time‽ The past week's type releases give us a chance to do just that with Ohno Type Co's art-deco inspired (and perhaps worrisomely named) Regrets; the updated, expanded, and neato Netto from TypeMates; a modernist take on the historical Clarendon with Studio Rene Bieder's Stakkat; and a retro, baseball-inspired Tuscan serif with Dinger from Dingbat Co. Is all this time travel even possible? Well, we and Letteror can Neither Confirm Nor Deny, but we can tell you inky variable fonts might be leading us to a bold, new type world. Man, with all this going on, we haven't had time to deal with our font ennui...
 
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Week 13 - Fonts Under Our Fingernails06 avr. 202300:27:12

What’s wrong with selling your font as one that can do it all‽ The guys worry that you can oversell the usefulness of your fonts, and thus hurt your actual sales. Can a font fulfill the dream of being "one-size-fits-all" for your needs or does that just make it boring, and perhaps, a liar? Josh also rants about how overused the word "workhorse" has become and Kyle calls for an end to its use. Oh, and the new fonts this week give us some beefy Light weights, erect font posture, and inspiration to knit some truly ugly sweaters...

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Manner from Colophon Foundry
Meyer from Frostype
Gamuth from Production Type
Knit Grotesk from Nouvelle Noire
 
Words banned from the Interrogang for being overused:
Authenticity
Artisan
Bespoke
Workhorse

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Week 12 - I Have Further Questions29 mars 202300:22:51

Did the Big Apple make a big mistake‽ Josh and Kyle are in a New York state of mind this week when they review the new "We Heart NYC" campaign. New York City had the chance to make it here, but instead chose to make it anywhere, and the guys are not impressed. Kyle suggests some New York-based type designers and foundries who could have given the rebrand a better local flair and Josh pitches a typography-based Seinfeld episode. Guess this is what happens when you are a city that never sleeps...

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Ginka from Lift Type
Discotack from Blaze Type
CoFo Gothic from Contrast Foundry
 
Fonts you can turn to for your New York-based branding:
Name Sans from Arrow Type
Söhne from Klim Type Foundry
 LaFarge from Typetanic Fonts
NYC Typewriter from Scott Vander Zee
Community Gothic from Frere-Jones Type

New York City foundries you should know more about:
Frere-Jones Type
Tipofili
Commercial Type
BSPK
General Type Studio
XYZ Type

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Week 11 - Change is Hard22 mars 202300:30:41

Who gave Times New Roman all this power‽ Joshua "The Scorpion" Dick and Kyle "Victory Hands" Read review the contentious switch from Times New Roman to Calibri made by the US State Department this year and worry about how little control we actually have about which fonts become all-powerful. Times New Roman may be on its way out, but there are some TNR diehards out there still praying to Our Lady of Serifs. The guys also talk well-designed emojis and come across some heretofore buried phobias that also serve as great wrestler names...

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Editorial Old from Pangram Pangram
Melindrosa from Flavia Zimbardi
Salad Days from Meg Lewis
Gloridot and Ringold from the brand spankin' new Bijou Type

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Week 10 Releases - The Essence of a Font14 mars 202300:17:05

Where does inspiration come from when designing a font‽ There were plenty of answers to that question from this past week, from Beast of England's Acorn reminiscing about Acorn Computers to Clothilde Bouan's Niki, which delightfully reflects artist Niki de Saint-Phalle's extensive repertoire, to DS Type's Prelo Pro taking a cue from...its own Prelo family DNA. We also find that it is a Bold Decision to name your font True Serif and that Lexia from Dalton Maag could have added a few more genres to describe it and we still would have loved its panache. Now, let's talk tittles...
 
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Week 09 - Typographic Jazz08 mars 202300:35:10

Is who you know more important than what you know‽ Josh and Kyle cut through the social foofah to put the phrase "It's not what you know, it's who you know" in its place, all while trying to convince you they aren't lonely hermits. There are also two months of type releases to review, and we realize how Ohno Type Co.'s name may hint at our impending doom. It's a lot to handle, but we've got big, jazzy, three-dimensional dreams for 2023...

What's next?

Font releases highlighted in this episode:
Items from Schick Toikka
Lipo from Suitcase Type
Casserole from Ohno Type Co.
Baste from Lift Type
Family from Klim Type Foundry
 
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