Join VeggieTales and What's in the Bible? creator Phil Vischer and co-host Skye Jethani (author, speaker, pastor) for a fast-paced and often funny conversation about pop culture, media, theology, and the fun, fun, fun of living a thoughtful Christian life in an increasingly post-Christian culture.
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694: Why Don't We Take Church Unity Seriously? with N.T. Wright
Wednesday, November 5, 2025 • Duration 01:29:02
A new survey finds that moderately religious Americans are the most likely to say that they see dead people. Which raises a question—why are the non-religious and the very religious less likely to report encounters with the departed? New York Times columnist Ezra Klein says that by over-emphasizing inclusivity, the Democratic Party has ironically become less inclusive. And Ryan Burge looks at the numbers behind the party's growing "God problem." Will the Democrats ever figure out how to compete against MAGA? New Testament scholar N.T. Wright is back to discuss his latest book, "The Vision of Ephesians." He tells Skye that the modern church has overemphasized the gospel importance of going to heaven and underemphasized the gospel importance of church unity. Also this week—Phil digs his hole with fans of Wicked even deeper.
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7:33 - Live Show Debrief
9:20 - Phil's Beef with Wicked
15:26 - Visited by the Dead?
25:44 - Ezra Klein on Why Democrats Aren't Winning
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52:57 - Interview
55:50 - The Joining of Heaven and Earth
1:04:11 - Unity of the Church
1:16:43 - Barriers Against Multiculturalism
1:28:28 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
4 in 10 Evangelicals Say They've Been Visited by the Dead
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693: Holy Post LIVE from Chicago 2025
Wednesday, October 29, 2025 • Duration 01:22:11
This week is Halloween, and on this special episode recorded with a live audience, the Holy Post hosts discuss why our culture isn't afraid of monsters and demons anymore. How did all of our pop culture heroes and villains become morally ambiguous? Also, would communal living solve our loneliness epidemic? Kaitlyn is all for it, but Skye isn't so sure. Also this week—audience Q&A, Phil, Skye, Kaitlyn, and Esau play a game of true confessions, and Phil's favorite news segment comes full circle.
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12:09 - Should We Be in Communes?
27:55 - Why Aren't We Scared of Demons Anymore?
684: Dobson Died, Cracker Barrel Cancelled, & Flipping Christian Politics with James Talarico
Wednesday, August 27, 2025 • Duration 01:36:02
James Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family, died this week. Critics are saying Dobson was the "godfather of child abuse," while his fans are saying he belongs on the Mount Rushmore of evangelicalism. Who's right? Phil, Skye, and Mike Erre discuss Dobson's legacy and why the controversial conservative is secretly responsible for the creation of VeggieTales. Rising political social media star and Texas state representative, James Talarico, joins Skye to talk about his faith and what makes his frequent references to Christianity in his progressive politics different from the approach of Christian nationalists. Also this week—Cracker Barrel apologizes for changing its logo after being accused of stripping away America's heritage and culture.
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Getting Schooled - Did the Father Forsake the Son on the Cross?
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608: Defining the Gospel & Who's a "Real" Christian with Matthew Bates
Wednesday, March 13, 2024 • Duration 01:32:36
Earlier this year, John MacArthur said that Martin Luther King Jr. was "a nonbeliever who misrepresented everything about Christ and the gospel." Last week, Justin Giboney responded with an article in CT explaining why MacArthur was wrong about MLK. This leads Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye to ask when is it appropriate to define who is, and who is not, a true Christian, and what criteria should we use? Theologian Matthew Bates is back to discuss his new book, "Why the Gospel?" He defines six popular "malformed" gospels, and why bypassing the importance of Jesus' kingship is dangerous for the church. Also this week—A Christian musician from Ireland claims Taylor Swift is satanic, and beware of the bonnacon!
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607: The Gift of Disillusionment with Mike Cosper
Wednesday, March 6, 2024 • Duration 01:38:17
CORRECTION - The initial audio file uploaded this morning was missing the last 10 minutes. If your phone automatically downloads the episode, remove the download and then redownload it, and that should take care of the issue. Sorry for the inconvenience!
607: Are you feeling disillusioned about your faith? About your church? You're definitely not alone. Creator of "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill" podcast, Mike Cosper, is back to talk about his new book, "Land of My Sojourn," and how he came to embrace disillusionment as a gift. Also this week, Mike Erre joins Phil and Skye to discuss a new article trying to define and differentiate Christian Conservatism from Christian Nationalism. And they use these definitions to interpret Donald Trump's recent remarks to the National Religious Broadcasters. Plus, Italy is using DNA testing to catch canine public offenders.
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6:09 - Sam the Eagle
7:46 - Announcement
10:50 - News of the Butt - Dog Poop DNA Test
18:06 - Christian Nationalism vs Christian Conservatism
35:34 - Conservative, Nationalist, or Blasphemous Game Show
Last week the Alabama Supreme Court ruled that frozen embryos created for in-vitro fertilization have the legal status of children, essentially ending all IVF treatments in the state. Some are applauding the ruling as both a morally and theologically consistent affirmation of human life. But others, including some Christians, are saying the pro-life movement is taking things too far. Then, how do we teach kids the core doctrines of the Christian faith when most adults in our churches don't know them either? Kaitlyn interviews the creators of a new series of children's books designed to catechize both kids and their parents. Also this week, a new survey suggests Christian Nationalism is in decline, but we think the data is hot garbage.
David and Skye discuss the upcoming primary election—if most people agree that Biden is too old to hold office, why hasn't he stepped down? Would a different vice president give voters more confidence? Pastors, doctors, and politicians are routinely threatened with physical violence by MAGA—is this our fault for not standing up publicly against this behavior?
0:00 - Theme Song
0:18 - Episode Starts
0:40 - Biden's Age
11:14 - Ezra Klein Suggests Democrats Leave Biden
21:33 - Is It Too Risky to Drop Biden?
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32:53 - Trump's Dedicated Base
37:52 - MAGA's Violent Threats
44:02 - Silence Permits MAGA Violence
605: Market-Driven Christianity & Abortion Beyond Politics with Angela Weszely
Wednesday, February 21, 2024 • Duration 01:30:07
A new book argues that the rise and decline of the Contemporary Christian Music industry helps explain the political idolatry of many Christians, and Karen Swallow Prior says the biblical manhood industry is a scam. These stories lead Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn to discuss whether American evangelicalism is defined more by consumer markets than by theology. Angie Weszely, the CEO of ProGrace, is back to talk about how the church can actually create a culture of life after the overturning of Roe. She says we need to stop seeing abortion as primarily a political and legal issue, and instead recognize that it's also a pastoral, practical, and emotional one. Also this week, why does Tucker love Russia? And Trumpers 'n sneakers.
604: Faulty Foot Washing & Pagan Christianity with Nijay Gupta
Wednesday, February 14, 2024 • Duration 01:29:20
The "He Gets Us" campaign ran a Super Bowl ad showing culture war combatants washing each other's feet. It has conservative Christians upset and non-Christians confused. Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye react to the ad and unpack the many ways we misunderstand the meaning of Jesus washing his disciples' feet. Then, New Testament professor Nijay Gupta is back to discuss his new book "Strange Religion" about what made early Christianity so weird and compelling. He explains what Roman religion looked like before Christianity, and how those pagan values and practices are returning. Plus, Chinese spy pigeons and swearing parrots.
603: The Politics of Fear & Rethinking the Cross with Brian Zahnd
Wednesday, February 7, 2024 • Duration 01:31:54
Well, here we are again. The very same arguments that were rolled out by MAGA Christian leaders to justify supporting Donald Trump in 2016 and 2020 are back again in 2024. A new article in the Christian Post says America's survival depends on Christians voting for Trump. Why do these fear tactics still work? Then, it's true that all politicians lie, but PolitiFacts says Trump is a league of his own. And scientists explain why negative polarization in our politics may have evolutionary origins.
Then Skye interviews pastor and author, Brian Zahnd, about his new book, "The Wood Between the Worlds: A Poetic Theology of the Cross." He draws from art, literature, movies, and music to help us see the many facets of what Jesus really accomplished on that old rugged cross. Also this week, an early church father liked big couches and he cannot lie.
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33:30 - The Loss of Heroes?
47:40 - Skye's Take on Halloween
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4:48 - Cracker Barrel Logo Gone Woke?
23:36 - James Dobson Passed Away
38:45 - No Dobson Means No Veggietales?
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57:36 - Interview
1:01:15 - Telerico's Faith Background
1:09:54 - Does the Democratic Party Align with Christianity?
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13:09 - CCM as a Reflection of American Christianity
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57:10 - Interview
59:25 - Why "Should it be Legal" Isn't Enough
1:07:58 - Ending vs. Banning Abortion
1:12:57 - Communicating without Shaming
1:19:04 - The Power of Grace
1:29:32 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
How Contemporary Christian Music Explains American Christianity
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5:27 - Recapping the Liveshow
8:05 - News of the Butt
11:54 - Trump the Unreliable Watchman
28:18 - The Roots of Polarization
38:24 - Fatalism in America
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