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| EP 42 | Was Alisa Childers Right About Josh Howerton & Josh McPherson? (3 Markers of NAR Governance) | 12 Oct 2026 | 00:44:39 | |
Was Alisa Childers right to warn people about Josh Howerton and Josh McPherson’s teachings on church leadership? By the time you finish listening to this episode, you’ll not only know whether Alisa’s warning was justified, but you’ll also learn 3 specific markers of dangerous, apostle-style church governance—even when pastors don't explicitly use the word "apostle." 📌 Episode OverviewIn this episode, we break down the online debate that erupted after Alisa Childers shared a clip from the Resurge podcast, hosted by Josh Howerton (Lakepointe Church) and Josh McPherson (Grace City Church / Stronger Man Nation). While defenders accuse Alisa of slander, misrepresentation, and "barking up the wrong tree," a closer look at Howerton and McPherson's statements reveals a deeply concerning shift toward New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)-style top-down governance. Drawing on over two decades of research into the NAR movement and co-authoring four books on the topic, I walk through the original podcast, address recent rebuttals, analyze Howerton's statements on "convening apostles," and show why Alisa’s warnings are fully warranted. 🔑 Key Takeaways & Discussion PointsThe 3 Markers of NAR Governance in the Church:
💬 Join the Conversation Have you encountered these top-down or "wartime" leadership dynamics in your own church background? Do you think elder boards should retain a shepherding and accountability role? | |||
| EP 41 | Are you Married to Someone in the NAR? Biblical Advice | 19 Sep 2026 | 00:23:12 | |
Can Christians in a spiritually mismatched marriage preserve their union while keeping a clear conscience before God? In this episode, Holly explores the tension that occurs in marriages when one spouse is part of the New Apostolic Reformation and the other is not. She unpacks what a "spiritual mismatch" is through 1 Corinthians 7, where Paul instructs believers who are married to an unbeliever, and she shows how his advice can also apply to those believers who are married to someone in NAR. She also examines conscience and authority through Acts 5:29 and the examples of Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, and Daniel, concluding that obedience to God comes before human authority, and that marriage vows never require participating in false teaching. In this episode, you'll learn: * What a spiritual mismatch is and its implications in a marriage. * What to do if you are in a mismatched marriage, based on 1 Corinthians 7:12-16 and Acts 5:29. * How Acts 5:29 warns against joining others in disobedience to God. * How to handle the tough issues arising from a spiritually mismatched marriage. * The importance of keeping your conscience clean before God. Have you or someone you love ever faced a spiritually mismatched marriage? Tell us about it in the comments. Resources & Links: Join Holly's Substack Book Club: https://hollypivec.substack.com Read more about NAR tactics in Holly's co-authored book, Counterfeit Kingdom: https://a.co/d/08kKR5j9 #christianpodcasting #NAR #christianmarriage #falseteachers | |||
| EP 40 | Is Your Church Leadership Actually Healthy? 3 Revealing Signs | 04 Sep 2026 | 00:14:44 | |
Doctrinal soundness, quite simply, is not enough. A church can be biblically sound and still be led by unaccountable, unhealthy leadership. In this episode, Holly breaks down three fundamental characteristics of healthy leadership, highlighting the importance of accountability, transparency, and character traits drawn from 1 Timothy 3:1–7 and Titus 1:5–9. These passages show us how to discern whether a church's leadership is actually healthy beyond biblical soundness. In this episode, you'll learn: - Why "doctrinally sound" doesn't necessarily mean "safe" - The pervasive reality of "paper elders" who do not hold the senior pastor accountable - What 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1 actually require of elders - Why governing bylaws are essential (and how they are often neglected) - The authoritarianism test: Do your leaders truly welcome questions? Resources & Links: Join Holly's Substack Book Club: https://hollypivec.substack.com Read more about NAR tactics in Holly's co-authored book, Counterfeit Kingdom: https://a.co/d/08kKR5j9 Have you ever experienced "paper elder" leadership: strong in theory, but impotent in practice? Tell us in the comments. #christianpodcasting #NAR #healthytheology #apologetics #falseteachers | |||
| EP 39 | How to Find a Biblically Sound Church (Without Chasing Perfection) | 21 Aug 2026 | 00:23:15 | |
How do you know if a church is actually solid? In this episode, Holly breaks down what to look for: biblically sound teaching and healthy leadership, not perfection. She walks through the warning signs of deviant doctrines like the "prosperity gospel" and NAR teachings, and shares a practical filter for reading a church's statement of faith. Does it show real reverence for Scripture? Are there red flags pointing to NAR influence? For anyone struggling to find a biblically sound community, Holly offers practical advice. And for those already rooted in a good church, the call is to dig in and serve, not just sit back In this episode, you’ll learn: * What Makes a Church Biblically Sound * A Mature Believer’s Role * Denominational Flexibility & the Importance of Fellowship * Why You Should Evaluate Teachings & Statements of Faith Resources & Links: Join Holly’s Substack Book Club: hollypivec.substack.com Read more about NAR tactics in Holly’s book, Counterfeit Kingdom: https://a.co/d/08kKR5j9 #NAR #KathrynKrick #Discernment #FalseTeachers #Apologetics | |||
| EP 38 | Beyond Kathryn Krick: The Hidden Danger of "Subtle" NAR Teachings | 07 Aug 2026 | 00:13:06 | |
Kathryn Krick, the 35-year-old lead pastor of 5F Church in Los Angeles, has gone viral for her dramatic deliverance services, theatrical style, and followers laying gifts at her feet. But while critics label her a "cult leader," many are missing a much bigger threat. In this episode, Holly reveals the critical mistake people make when evaluating flashy figures like Krick: assuming the danger is limited to sensational performers. Behind Krick’s viral clips is a core doctrine standard across the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)—the "Fivefold Ministry." Holly breaks down how NAR teachings, apostolic authority, and coded language like "Mama" and "Papa" are being promoted by soft-spoken, seemingly balanced pastors in local churches nationwide. In this episode, you’ll learn: * Why Katherine Krick’s viral book-signing and 5F Church reflect standard NAR doctrine. * What the "Fivefold Ministry" doctrine actually teaches—and how Ephesians 4:11 is taken out of context. * The hidden meaning behind titles like "Mama," "Papa," and laying gifts at a leader's feet. * Why "subtle" NAR churches can be even more dangerous than high-profile, theatrical leaders. Resources & Links: Join Holly’s Substack Book Club: hollypivec.substack.com Read more about NAR tactics in Holly’s book, Counterfeit Kingdom: https://a.co/d/08kKR5j9 #NAR #KathrynKrick #Discernment #FalseTeachers #Apologetics | |||
| EP 37 | Why Did It Take Plagiarism to Expose The Passion Translation? | 23 Jul 2026 | 00:14:39 | |
In this special "On My Radar," episode, I dive into key issues surrounding the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and why biblical discernment is more urgent than ever. I address a commonly asked question: Are prosperity gospel teachings connected with NAR? From there, I discuss recent revelations surrounding Brian Simmons and The Passion Translation, asking why it often takes plagiarism allegations or public scandals for eyes to open, when false teaching should be tested against Scripture first. Drawing from Acts 17:11 and Revelation 2, I show what true Berean discernment looks like—and why Christians must test claims, prophecies, and leaders against God's Word before major harm is done. TIMESTAMPS Prosperity Gospel and the NAR Movement Connection - 0:00 Prosperity Gospel in NAR Churches - 4:39 The Passion Translation and NAR Influence - 6:31 Historical Warnings about TPT and Current Realizations - 9:41 Encouragement for Biblical Discernment - 13:43 Join Holly's Substack community for more on discernment and the New Apostolic Reformation: https://substack.com/@hollypivec Have these false doctrines affected your walk with Christ? If so, how? Let us know in the comments 🙌 79bbtgqc'79bbtgqc' #ProsperityGospel #NewApostolicReformation #BiblicalDiscernment #FalseTeachings #ChristianApologetics | |||
| EP 25 | The Dangers of "Hearing God's Voice" on the Mission Field: A 2-Part Interview with Aaron and Chelsea Hunter (Part 1) | 17 Jul 2026 | 00:57:31 | |
We Left the Mission Field: The Reality of "Beyond" and the Theological Drift in Modern Missions Why would an ethusiastic, committed missionary couple walk away from their life’s work? In this deep-dive, two-part interview, Aaron and Chelsea Hunter share their jarring experience with the missions organization "Beyond." They reveal how the pressures to "hear God's voice" and document numerical growth have led to a "Jesus Hermeneutic" that replaces sound doctrine with subjective impressions, and why they believe these "Church Planting Movements" are hindering the gospel and world missions. Watch to discover: The perceived tension between "theological purity" vs. "reaching the nations." A first-hand account of when "Discovery Bible Studies" bypass God's objective Word in Scripture. The dangers of "Listening Prayer" and New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) influence on the mission field. Advice for churches and aspiring missionaries on how to select sound missions organizations to partner with. CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction to the Hunters' Missionary Journey 03:13 Understanding Beyond: The Organization's Role in Missions 06:01 Concerns Arising: The Influence of YWAM 08:53 "Hearing God's Voice": The Central Pillar of Beyond 12:12 The Dynamics of Listening Prayer 14:55 The Pressure of "Obedience": A Burden on Missionaries 17:46 The Harmful Impact of Listening Prayer on Missionaries' Relationships with God 21:03 The Unbiblical Role of Listening Prayer in Decision-Making 23:55 The Process of Listening Prayer: Steps and Practices 27:11 Urgency in Missions: The 2025 Goal 29:51 The Dangers of Presuming God's Voice and Prophecy 41:51 Testing Divine Revelation and Insufficient Criteria 46:56 Hyper-Spiritualization: Leaving No Room for Simple Encouragement 50:54 Prayer Declarations and Their Influence 54:08 Strategic-Level Spiritual Warfare: Understanding Strongholds RESOURCES MENTIONED: Nine Marks: https://www.9marks.org/ (Resources on biblical missions) ABOUT THIS PODCAST: The goal of this conversation is not to discourage missions, but to call the church back to a foundation of sound theology and biblical integrity. We believe that true "success" in missions is measured by faithfulness to God's Word in Scripture, not the pursuit of "hearing God's voice" outside of Scripture or rapid multiplication. #Missions #Beyond #ChurchPlanting #Theology #Christianity #Discernment #Gospel #BibleStudy | |||
| EP 36 | Exposing False Teachings Without Losing Your Soul | 10 Jul 2026 | 00:21:15 | |
How to grow in discernment and not turn cynical? In this episode, Holly shares the subtle line between spotting doctrinal error in the church and not trusting anyone or anything. While this may sound troublesome, she shares her personal experience and growth through three things that have kept her from going down that road, drawing from the church at Ephesus in Revelation 2 and Elijah's meltdown in the cave in 1 Kings. 0:08 Why Discernment Can Tip Into Cynicism 4:38 We're All at Different Places in Our Walk 9:13 Don't Only Focus on the False 13:51 Fill Your Mind With What's True and Good 18:33 Finding Your People (and Why It Matters) 20:00 A Final Word from Galatians 6:9 Join Holly's Substack community for more on discernment and the New Apostolic Reformation: https://substack.com/@hollypivec?r=1rh7cc&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=stories&shareImageVariant=blur What's helped you stay non-cynical? Let us know in the comments. 🙏 #SpiritualDiscernment #Cynicism #Theology #FalseTeachings #ChristianLife #Discernment | |||
| EP 35 | Is NAR Theology Fueling Your Anxiety? A Biblical Counselor Explains | 27 Jun 2026 | 00:24:09 | |
Can certain so-called "Christian" teachings contribute to anxiety, depression, and feelings of failure? In this conversation, biblical counselor Mark Baker explains how negative narratives, perfectionism, performance-based thinking, and false teachings can deeply impact our mental health. He also shares practical tools for identifying harmful thought patterns, finding hope in the midst of depression, and learning to trust God. 0:00 Negative Narratives and Mental Health 3:10 The Danger of Self-Condemnation 5:50 Why Perfectionism Fuels Depression 8:00 Practical Steps for Anxiety and Depression 10:20 How False Teaching Creates Pressure and Fear 12:00 The Link Between Depression and Hopelessness 15:00 One Question to Ask When You're Depressed 17:20 Where Are You Struggling to Trust God? 19:10 Using Scripture to Renew Your Mind 21:00 Why Bible Verses Aren't Magic Formulas 23:00 Final Encouragement Check out Mark Baker's book Re-Minded: https://amzn.to/4dXP4iP See his other resources here: https://www.hopeforlifeonline.com/ Let us know your thoughts in the comments below! #SpiritualDiscernment #MentalHealth #Theology #FalseTeachings #ChristianMentalHealth #Discernment | |||
| EP 34 | How Spiritual Discernment Directly Impacts Your Mental Health | 11 Jun 2026 | 00:20:14 | |
Is your mental health suffering because of bad theology? Discover how growing in spiritual discernment can free you from the anxiety, guilt, and emotional damage caused by false teachings. Many modern Christians are caught in a cycle of subtle shaming, false hope, and spiritual burnout. In this video, we break down why true biblical discernment is actually your greatest mental defense mechanism and a true faith builder. Learn how to spot "wolves in sheep's clothing," develop a healthy theology of suffering, and guard your mind against counterfeit spirituality. 00:00 - What is biblical discernment? 01:05 - The 3 faculties of the mind 02:13 - The "gymnasium" of the mind 03:16 - Exposing mysticism and false teachings 04:32 - How bad theology hurts mental health 05:18 - The danger of fake revivals 06:35 - True love warns people 08:21 - Social media scrolling vs. mental peace 09:57 - Why NAR theology causes anxiety 12:22 - Spiritual abuse and "shame-bombing" 14:31 - Judging leaders by their fruit 15:38 - Developing a theology of suffering 17:52 - How God uses hardship to train us 20:16 - Rejecting the "quick-fix" gospel 21:55 - Overcoming negative narratives If you want to grow deep in the Word and learn to guard your mind, make sure to subscribe and hit the notification bell! Check out Mark Baker's book Re-Minded: https://amzn.to/4dXP4iP Have you ever experienced spiritual "shame-bombing" or struggled with a "quick-fix" theology? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below! #SpiritualDiscernment #MentalHealth #BiblicalTheology #FalseTeachings #ChristianMentalHealth #Discernment #Hebrews514 | |||
| EP 33 |The Hard Work of Heart Work: Why NAR Shortcuts Fuel Anxiety | 29 May 2026 | 00:23:27 | |
Is the "quick fix" culture of modern church movements actually hurting your mental health? In this clip, we break down why true biblical peace isn’t a supernatural "zap," but a daily process of heart work—and how movements like the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) might be driving people into anxiety and dependency. If you’ve ever felt exhausted trying to manufacture supernatural experiences or control things outside your hands, this video is for you. We dive deep into the difference between coping mechanisms and true sanctification. Key Moments in This Video 00:00 Intro: deception, shortcuts, and false teaching 01:10 The “hard work of heart work” vs instant spiritual fixes 04:22 False hope, anxiety, depression, and coping mechanisms 09:25 Dependency on supernatural experiences and emotional highs 12:06 NAR promises, impossible expectations, and control 17:54 Spiritual warfare distractions and losing focus on the gospel 21:27 Dominion theology and “another gospel” True spiritual growth takes time. In this discussion, Mark Baker unpacks Chapter 4 ("The Hard Work of Heart Work") and Chapter 8 of his book Re-Minded, exposing how the obsession with signs, wonders, and immediate deliverance can create a toxic loop of emotional highs and crashes. By shifting our focus from what we can't control to what we can, we find the sound mind that God actually promised us. Subscribe for more discussions on spiritual discernment and biblical truth! #SpiritualDiscernment #MentalHealth #NAR #BiblicalTruth #Sanctification #ChristianPodcast #FaithAndMentalHealth | |||
| EP32 | How False Teachings Damage Your Mental Health: A Biblical Perspective | 14 May 2026 | 00:36:18 | |
Is your spiritual life causing more anxiety than peace? In this episode, I'm with biblical counselor and author Mark Baker to expose the overlooked link between false teachings—specifically within the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)—and mental health struggles like depression and chronic guilt. If you’ve ever felt like you "weren't performing enough" for God, or felt trapped by the pressure to hear a "word from God" for every decision, this conversation is for you. We dive deep into why subjective, feelings-based Christianity often leads to a "breaking point" and how you can reclaim a sound mind through the objective truth of Scripture. In this episode, we discuss: Biblical Counseling vs. Secular Psychology: Explaining different frameworks The NAR Mental Health Fallout: Why doctrines like "Heaven on Earth" and "Modern Apostles" often result in hopelessness. The Rise of "Christian" Mysticism: The subjective mystical practices, like "grave soaking" and "trips to heaven" (via guided visualizations), that are infiltrating the church Reclaiming a Sound Mind: The vital connection between self-discipline and mental clarity (2 Timothy 1:7). The "Crack" in the System: How catching one lie or false prophecy can be the first step toward spiritual freedom. Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro: Reconnecting with Mark Baker. 01:02 – What is biblical counseling and why is it unique? 04:02 – The secularization of pastoral care in modern seminaries. 08:47 – How false teaching creates an "unsound mind." 13:26 – Does NAR attract or create mental health issues? 16:45 – The burden of "performance-based" Christianity. 23:22 – How one "crack" via a false prophecy can lead to freedom. 28:10 – The danger of "subjectivity" and the "Touch not the anointed" trap. 31:25 – Understanding the role of self-discipline in a sound mind. 34:58 – The hard work of "heart work": Avoiding spiritual shortcuts. Resources Mentioned: Mark Baker’s Book: Re-Minded: How to Renew Your Mind, Quiet Your Soul, and Transform Your Life - https://www.amazon.com/Re-Minded-Renew-Your-Quiet-Transform/dp/B0DDP78BK6 Have you experienced anxiety or spiritual burnout from these types of teachings? Share your story in the comments below. We’re building a community of truth-seekers and would love to hear from you. Don’t forget to SUBSCRIBE and hit the 🔔to stay updated on our latest deep dives into theology and discernment. #HollyPivec #MarkBaker #NAR #BiblicalCounseling #MentalHealth #Discernment #SpiritualAbuse #SoundMind #ChristianPodcast | |||
| EP31 | Prophecy or Prop: How Magicians Replicate Modern "Miracles" | 30 Apr 2026 | 00:50:54 | |
Is it a miracle from God, a manifestation of the demonic, or just a clever trick? In this deep-dive interview, professional magician and mentalist Terry Holley pulls back the curtain on the "signs and wonders" appearing in modern movements like the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). From gold dust and "glory clouds" at Bethel to the secrets of "words of knowledge," Terry explains how mentalism and cold reading can perfectly replicate what many claim to be supernatural. We also tackle the tough theological questions: Did Pharaoh’s magicians actually perform miracles? Can Satan control the weather? And why do so many Christians give the enemy more credit than the Bible does? If you’ve ever wondered if what you’re seeing on stage is real or just "extrasensory deception," this episode is for you. IN THIS EPISODE: Mentalism vs. Prophecy: How "Question & Answer" routines mimic prophetic words. The "Glory Cloud" Demystified: Comparing modern church manifestations to Las Vegas illusions. Theology of the Miraculous: Why creating life (snakes and blood) is a boundary only God crosses. Occam’s Razor & The Supernatural: Understanding the 4 natural forces before jumping to "miracle" conclusions. Demons & Objects: The logic (and hilarity) of "demon-possessed" chocolate chip cookies. CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Introduction: Can magic explain so-called "miracles"? 03:15 - The Q&A Routine: How mentalists "read minds." 08:45 - Gold Dust & Snow: David Copperfield’s secrets. 14:20 - Pharaoh’s Magicians: Miracle or sleight of hand? 22:10 - Signs and Wonders: A Greek word study. 30:35 - Can Satan control the weather? (Lessons from Job) 38:50 - The "Supernormal" vs. The "Supernatural." 45:15 - Debunking "demonized" objects and screaming wood. 52:40 - The $25,000 Challenge for a real miracle. 58:20 - Final thoughts: Staying within biblical boundaries. RESOURCES MENTIONED: Book: Astrology and Psychic Phenomena by Terry Holley. James Randi’s Alpha Project: How two magicians fooled the scientific community. CONTACT TERRY: terry_holley@hotmail.com (For church seminars/performances and questions). Do you think he’s being too cynical, or is this the discernment the church needs today? Let us know in the comments. TWO CORRECTIONS SUBMITTED BY TERRY HOLLEY:1. David Hoy's "Hurling the Headlines" is not a book, but it is a chapter found in his booklet, "The Bold and Subtle Miracles of Dr. Faust."2. I accidentally stated that I sent predictions to David Hoy. I should have stated that I sent them to Gary North. Hoy passed in 1981. My correspondence with North was in the 1990s. #Discernment #Apologetics #NewApostolicReformation #Magic #Theology #TerryHolley #SpiritualWarfare #Mentalism | |||
| EP30 | Signs, Wonders, or Sleight of Hand? A Magician's View of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) | 16 Apr 2026 | 01:05:31 | |
Is it a miracle, or just a really good trick? In this revealing interview, 55-year veteran magician Terry Holley pulls back the curtain on the "supernatural" claims of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). While many believers are amazed by "words of knowledge" and "miraculous" powers, Terry reveals how professional mentalism, data mining, and theatrical illusions can replicate these exact experiences. We explore the historical deception of figures like William Branham and Paul Cain, and the danger of building theology on anecdotal stories that crumble under investigation. If you've ever questioned the "Glory Cloud" or how a prophet knew personal details about your life, this video provides the technical and biblical clarity you need. Inside this investigation: Mentalism 101: How performers "read minds" using natural techniques. The Andre Kole Legacy: Why Jesus’ miracles were impossible to fake. Nailing Jello to a Wall: The truth about levitation stories and "miracle" reports. The "Hot Reading" Scandal: Why some modern prophets are just data mining. Biblical Discernment: How to distinguish between theatrical magic and occult practices. CHAPTERS 0:00 – Intro: Why interview a Christian magician? 1:25 – Terry Holley 55-year background in magic 4:45 – What is Mentalism? (Mind reading vs. tricks) 7:20 – Andre Kole and the investigation of Jesus’ miracles 17:15 – The difference between theatrical magic and the occult 19:10 – Why magicians use equipment (debunking demonic power) 21:05 – Magician vs. Illusionist: Why some churches prefer "illusionist" 23:30 – "Magic in the Bible": Hebrew and Greek word studies 26:50 – Investigating the Kansas City Prophets and Bob Jones 30:15 – Correspondence with John Piper and Wayne Grudem 38:15 – The "Flying Reindeer" argument: Why we need proof 43:50 – The Levitation Myth: Investigating supernatural claims 50:15 – Observations on Craig Keener’s Miracles book volumes 53:40 – Paul Cain and "Hot Reading" techniques 56:10 – The "Sick Cat" experiment: How easy it is to fool people 1:02:30 – Data mining and modern prophets (Shawn Bolz) Help us spread the truth: If this video helped you understand the mechanics of deception, please Like and Subscribe. Share this video with anyone currently involved in NAR circles to help them test what they are seeing against the truth. #NAR #Prophecy #Mentalism #BethelRedding #BiblicalDiscernment #Apologetics #FaithHealing #Discernment | |||
| EP29 | Francis Chan’s Public Apology: Does It Go Far Enough? | With Doug Geivett | 02 Apr 2026 | 01:18:37 | |
On March 6, 2026, Francis Chan released a public apology titled "Tremble at His Words, Be Careful with Your Own." In it, he addresses his associations with leaders in the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), including Mike Bickle and IHOPKC. But does this apology truly address the root of the problem, or does it sidestep the real issues and dangers? In this special audio-only episode of the podcast, Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett (joining from the Florida Everglades!) break down Chan’s letter and the accompanying statement from his network elders. We dive deep into: The "Integrity" Gap: Was Mike Bickle a man of integrity who "fell," or was the foundation flawed from the start? "Fooled Hundreds of Times": Analyzing Chan’s admission of a lack of discernment and what that means for his role as a globally influential leader. The Elder’s Defense: Why claiming "refutation" of NAR accusations is factually incorrect and misleading to the church. The Prophetic Movement: Why a focus on character scandals ignores the deeper crisis of fallible prophecy and theological error. A Call to Action: Will Chan ever give us the biblical criteria for evaluating prophets? Resources Mentioned: -Francis Chan’s Letter: Tremble at His Words, Be Careful with Your Own (Crazy Love Ministries) https://www.crazylove.org/articles/tremble-at-his-words-be-careful-with-your-own -Holly’s Blog: hollypivec.com -The Implosion of IHOPKC: https://www.hollypivec.com/blog/implosionofihopkc -Books by Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett: Counterfeit Kingdom, God's Super-Apostles, and more. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=holly+pivec+and+doug+geivett&crid=2B4DQ2AUNRY85&sprefix=holly+pivec+and+doug+geivett%2Caps%2C216&ref=nb_sb_noss_2 Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction & Background on Francis Chan 04:46 – Framing the Apology: "Those who no longer walk in integrity" 15:10 – The avoidance of addressing "false teaching" in the apology 21:47 – The stunning admission of being "fooled hundreds of times" 35:34 – Analyzing the Elders’ Statement 52:40 – Can a "legitimate" prophet be fallible? 1:10:00 – Unity vs. Truth: Final thoughts and closing wisdom Stay Connected: If you found this analysis helpful, please Like and Subscribe to stay updated on our latest critiques and theological discussions. #FrancisChan #NAR #MikeBickle #IHOPKC #Discernment #Theology #NewApostolicReformation #HoldFast #HollyPivec #DougGeivett | |||
| EP 28 | NAR and the AG: Why Assemblies of God Pastors Must Draw a Line in the Sand (Part 2) | 19 Mar 2026 | 00:51:19 | |
The ongoing collision with NAR has forced a moment of truth for the Assemblies of God, requiring a clear and final decision on whether it will protect its Pentecostal roots or succumb to apostolic infiltrators.* See a note of correction and clarification from Aaron Mapes below.*In this deep-dive interview, an AG pastor pulls back the curtain on how "Latter Rain" doctrines and modern NAR theology are covertly reshaping Pentecostal churches—and why the stakes for the AG have never been higher.From the controversial "offices" of modern-day apostles and prophets to the devastating impact of "fallible prophecy," Pastor Aaron Mapes and I explore why AG leaders must draw a line in the sand. We discuss the historical link between the 1940s Latter Rain movement and Jim Jones, the theological danger of the "always God’s will to heal" doctrine, and why Pastor Aaron has chosen not to use Bethel Music to protect his congregation.If you’ve ever wondered why your favorite worship song, or a "prophetic word" you've heard, feels like it’s leading to a different gospel, this conversation is for you. Key Topics Discussed:The historical condemnation of "Latter Rain" doctrines by the AG in 1949.Why Jim Jones is a sobering warning for modern charismatic movements.The "fallible prophecy" trap: Can a true prophet be wrong?Why Bethel’s theology is creating a "wrecking yard" of deconstructed faith.The practical reasons why Pastor Aaron has banned Bethel Music in his AG church (and other AG churches should do the same)How to identify "bad fruit" in a movement before it leads to spiritual and sexual abuse.Timestamps:0:00 – Introduction: NAR and the AG04:15 – The 1940s Latter Rain Movement & Jim Jones12:30 – Why the AG Issued New Position Papers on Apostles & Prophets18:45 – The Dangers of "Fallible Prophecy" (Deuteronomy 18)25:10 – Shipwrecked Faith: When "God’s Will to Heal" Fails33:20 – Why We Stopped Singing Bethel Music in Our Church41:15 – The "Cover-Up Culture" and Biblical Discernment50:40 – Truth Over Relationship: How to Talk to People in the AG About NAR58:20 – Final Thoughts: A Bigger Vision for the GospelResources Mentioned:Counterfeit Kingdom by Holly Pivec & Doug Geivett - https://a.co/d/0hncwff4God’s Super-Apostles by Doug Geivett and Holly Pivec- https://a.co/d/0aURrk3lA/G Pastors Concerned about NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) Facebook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1299878327294092/?ref=share&mibextid=NSMWBTAre you seeing NAR influence in your local Pentecostal or other type of church?#AssembliesOfGod #NAR #BethelChurch #ChristianDiscernment #NewApostolicReformation #TheologyMatters #Pentecostal #biblicaltruth A Correction and Note of Clarification from Aaron Mapes:"Thanks, Holly! It was a pleasure to join you for this podcast! I need to make a public correction. In the interview, I stated Jim Jones was an A/G (Assemblies of God) minister instead of Independent Assemblies of God International minister. Very similar in history, relationship and doctrine, but separate organizations with cooperative ties and relationships as well as a shared name and some shared roots, as was the case with many early pentecostal churches and movements as they were emerging. The IAOGI was born out of the Scandanavian Assemblies of God." See Aaron's full note, with additional information about Jim Jones, on Facebook here: https://www.facebook.com/aaron.mapes.9/posts/pfbid0248NMNZNxixLyzLVNCJfZAMLFFPfuYXsBKcAgiFDyhZ6adHMGP5Cd3VrZYYYNJrRtl | |||
| EP 27 | NAR and the AG: The NAR Incursion into the Assemblies of God (Part 1) | 06 Mar 2026 | 00:46:39 | |
Is the New Apostolic Reformation covertly reshaping your church? Join me and 5th-generation Assemblies of God pastor Aaron Mapes for a deep dive into the "smuggling" of NAR doctrine into classical Pentecostalism. While the boundaries between NAR and Pentecostalism have become increasingly blurred, the differences are critical for those concerned about the future of the Assemblies of God. In this episode, we expose how specific terminology—like the "five-fold ministry"—is being used as a gateway to introduce NAR "apostles" and "prophets" into local Assemblies of God churches. Pastor Aaron shares his personal journey of watching a thriving church of 300 dwindle to 80 after a NAR takeover and discusses the high-profile departures of flagship churches from the AG, like James River and Bethel Redding. In this video, you will learn: The vital distinctions between Pentecostalism, charismatic belief, and NAR. Why "five-fold ministry" language is often a red flag for aberrant teaching. The truth behind the "Show Me the Toes" (alleged) miracle and the danger of deceptive "revival" narratives. How the Assemblies of God’s new 2025 position papers address these encroachments. TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - Intro: The Encroachment of NAR into the AG 2:15 - Aaron Mapes’ Story: A 5th-Generation Heritage 5:30 - Pentecostal vs. NAR: Clearing the Confusion 9:45 - The "Second Act of Grace" and Initial Physical Evidence 14:10 - How NAR Emerged Out of Independent Charismatic Churches 17:40 - The "Seven Mountain Mandate" vs. Traditional Eschatology 21:30 - Personal Fallout: When a NAR Takeover Splits a Church 28:15 - "Smuggling" Doctrine: The Five-Fold Ministry Language 35:50 - Case Study: James River Church and the "Toes" Controversy 42:10 - The 2025 AG Position Papers: Do They Go Far Enough? RESOURCES MENTIONED American Gospel: Spirit & Fire: https://www.americangospelfilm.com/spirit--fire-ag3.html #NAR #AssembliesOfGod #Pentecostal #ChurchDiscernment #FiveFoldMinistry #Theology #JamesRiverChurch #BethelRedding #SpiritualAbuse #ChristianPodcast | |||
| EP 26 | Dangers of "Hearing God's Voice" on the Mission Field: with Aaron and Chelsea Hunter (Pt. 2) | 19 Feb 2026 | 00:55:32 | |
Is modern missions work inadvertently hindering the gospel? In Part 2 of our deep dive, former Beyond missionaries Aaron and Chelsea—who were accused by the organization's leadership of being "unteachable"—share their firsthand experiences with the "Church Planting Movement" (CPM) strategy and the controversial "Insider Movements" that allow for religious syncretism. We discuss how the pressure to "hear from God" and meet artificial deadlines, like the 2025 goal, is resulting in unqualified leadership and the compromise of sound Christian doctrine. If you’re a missionary, a church supporter, or interested in the future of global evangelism, this conversation is a must-watch. KEY TAKEAWAYS: Syncretism in Missions: Why some organizations allow "converts" to continue to worship in mosques or give gifts to idols Lack of Transparency: Why missionaries are being instructed to hide syncretistic practices from their sending churches and financial supporters The Problem with Speed: How fast-tracking missions efforts results in unqualified missionaries on the field Subjective Leadings: How some missionary training models have integrated a version of Discovery Bible Studies that shift the focus from the objective meaning of the biblical text to subjective internal impressions
RESOURCES MENTIONED: Nine Marks: https://www.9marks.org/ (Resources on biblical missions) #Missions #ChurchPlanting #Theology #Christianity #Discernment #Beyond #YWAM #Evangelism #BibleStudy #Apologetics | |||
| EP 24 | You Don’t Have to Do Discernment Alone: An Invitation to “Hold Fast" | 22 Jan 2026 | 00:24:08 | |
In this episode, I share exciting news about the launch of my new book club and discussion community, over at Substack, called "Hold Fast with Holly Pivec." And I invite you to join us. I explain my vision for Hold Fast with Holly Pivec and share messages from my podcast listeners revealing the need for such a discernment community. I also share my own backstory that motivated me to undertake this new venture. Be sure to watch through to the end to learn about a special launch discount available to my podcast listeners and others who join in the first month. Are you navigating the challenges of the New Apostolic Reformation and feeling like you’re doing it alone? Well, many others are in the same boat. This community pulls together like-minded believers for guidance, encouragement, and study. Listen to this episode to learn all about my new discernment community and see how you can get involved, including coming to the Acts 17:11 Book Club—where we dissect primary NAR texts together and evaluate them by Scripture and careful reasoning—and participating in my monthly live Q-and-As. Subscribe today and join a community dedicated to protecting the body of Christ and holding fast to gospel in an age of new "apostles." For more information and to subscribe, visit Hold Fast with Holly Pivec at https://hollypivec.substack.com/about. And don’t forget to listen to this episode to get the full scoop! | |||
| EP 23 | Is "Listening Prayer" Biblical? How "Listening Prayer Retreats" Hinder Spiritual Growth | 09 Jan 2026 | 00:43:56 | |
Is "listening prayer" the key to intimacy with God, as many Christian teachers claim? In this deep-dive conversation, we discuss a particular view of prayer as "two-way communication" and explore how seeking audible voices or mystical promptings can be a distraction from true spiritual growth. If you’ve ever felt stuck waiting to "hear from God" or worried that you’re missing God's specific instructions for your life, this episode is for you. The topics we address include:
Let’s discuss in the comments. I’m curious to hear your experiences with "listening prayer."
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| EP 22 | Is the Pressure to "Hear God's Voice" Preventing You from Actually Knowing Him?: An Interview with Doug Geivett (Part 1) | 25 Dec 2025 | 00:52:40 | |
In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Doug Geivett, my co-author and long-time colleague, to discuss a very popular teaching in the church right now: “hearing God’s voice” outside of Scripture. Doug and I have co-authored four books on the New Apostolic Reformation. In this conversation, which is part of my larger series on "hearing God's voice," we address why the modern expectation of daily private messages from God has become so widespread and why it is spiritually risky. We respond to real pushback messages I have received, including claims that relying on Scripture to mediate God's voice means you only have a “relationship with a book.” We explain why that argument undermines both biblical authority and true intimacy with God. We also dig into what the Bible actually teaches about the Holy Spirit’s role in the believer’s life, what “being led by the Spirit” means, and why obedience is the biblical foundation for intimacy with God, not chasing impressions, dreams, or inner promptings. 00:00 Intro and who Doug Geivett is 01:53 Why this topic hits a nerve and the pushback has been intense 03:51 Why “hearing God’s voice” is so appealing and why it became mainstream now 06:08 How expectations are shaped by church culture and imitation 08:35 The personal draw: intimacy, immediacy, and “God speaking to me” 10:35 Main dangers: replacing real intimacy with an artificial metric 12:18 The irony: seeking intimacy but actually blocking it 14:35 Social pressure, spiritual insecurity, and manufactured experiences 19:06 Reading pushback comments: “relationship with a book” and “living God speaks” 21:07 Why Scripture still governs the question, even if God speaks in other ways 24:19 Psalm 119 and why God’s Word is not “just a book” 28:35 Why impressions are also a medium, and the inconsistency in the critique 30:37 A sincere concern: “being led by the Spirit” and daily guidance 34:47 Acts, decision making, and “it seemed good to us” vs “God told me” 37:09 John 14 and what Jesus actually promised about the Holy Spirit 41:29 Fruit of the Spirit and what it means to be led by the Spirit 43:34 “Does God speak English?” Clarifying what people mean by “God spoke” 45:44 Guidance through maturity vs claiming private revealed words 47:52 Imagination based practices and why that is a problem 50:19 The core claim: intimacy with God is grounded in obedience, not voice chasing 52:24 Outro | |||
| EP 21 | The Challenge of Discernment Globally (Part 2): An Interview with Paul Carden and Rodgers Atwebembeire of The Centers for Apologetics Research | 11 Dec 2025 | 00:41:38 | |
Seventh-day Adventists, NAR, and The Miracle Myth: Protecting the African Church from Heresy & Exploitation In the concluding segment of our interview with Paul Carden (Centers for Apologetics Research) and Rodgers Atwebembeire (Africa Center for Apologetics Research), we expose critical doctrinal threats and challenges in Africa, including the rapid growth of Seventh-day Adventism, the stealth infiltration of the New Apostolic Reformation, and the massive amount of false miracle claims. This segment includes vital information on the Project Priscilla ministry, which is equipping vulnerable women against exploitation, and a powerful example of how small donations make a massive, life-saving impact on the front lines of global discernment. In This Final Segment, You Will Learn: * The Miracle Deception: Why claims of healing in extreme charismatic movements, including NAR, lack credible evidence and how believers are blamed for their "lack of faith." * SDA Exposed: Why Seventh-day Adventism is doctrinally cultic ("False Prophet, Wrong Jesus, Impossible Salvation") and how it uses fear tactics (like the "mark of the beast") to pull Christians out of sound churches. * NAR's Stealth Invasion: How the Seven Mountain Mandate and Dominion Theology are infiltrating major denominations amd traditions, like the Anglican Church in Africa. * Dangerous Syncretism: The mixing of NAR spiritual warfare with African traditional religious beliefs (e.g., specific ancestral demons and curses). * Project Priscilla: The critical ministry focused on equipping women and girls who are culturally vulnerable to sexual and financial exploitation by predator "prophets." * Direct Impact: An eye-opening story showing how just $400 in funding resulted in outreach to over 400,000 people and brought victims out of cults. Timestamps (Jump to what interests you!): | 0:00 | The Miracle Myth: How Miracle Claims Lack Evidence | | 3:11 | The Blame Game: Why Claimed Healings Fail and the Fault is Placed on the Victim | | 4:25 | Project Priscilla: Equipping Women Against Spiritual Exploitation | | 7:07 | Seventh-day Adventism Exposed: Why SDA Is a Cult | | 11:00 | Investigative Judgment: The SDA Doctrine that Makes Salvation Impossible | | 14:55 | The Stealth Infiltration of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) | | 18:05 | Strategic Spiritual Warfare & African Syncretism (Targeting Ancestral Spirits) | | 20:13 | The Global Challenge of Discernment (Are Evangelicals Aware?) | | 23:17 | Partnerships and Ministry Needs (Literature, Prayer, Workers) | | 26:50 | The Power of Small Donations: How $400 Reached 400,000 People | | 28:48 | Call to Action: How to Partner with CFAR (Prayer & Support) | Connect with the Ministries and Support Their Work: The Centers for Apologetics Research (CFAR): thecenters.org LIKE & SHARE this video to equip and warn others about these critical issues! SUBSCRIBE for more essential discussions on theology, discernment, and global missions. #SDAExposed #NARHeresy #FalseProphets #AfricanChurch #Discernment #ProjectPriscilla #Cults #SeventhDayAdventist #WordOfFaith #Apologetics | |||
| EP 20 | The Challenge of Discernment Globally (Part 1): An Interview with Paul Carden and Rodgers Atwebembeire of The Centers for Apologetics Research | 27 Nov 2025 | 00:30:06 | |
The future of global Christianity is African, but this explosive growth is under massive attack. Join us as we interview Paul Carden (Centers for Apologetics Research) and Rodgers Atwebembeire (Africa Center for Apologetics Research) to discuss the hidden dangers, manipulative movements, and organized cults aggressively targeting Christians across the continent. This is a deep dive into the "flip side of the Great Commission"—the vital work of doctrinal polemics and counter-cult ministry needed to prevent spiritual disillusionment and protect millions from toxic, heretical teaching. In this Urgent Discussion, You Will Learn: * Why the Word of Faith and Prosperity Gospel movements are devastating in Africa. * The difference between general apologetics and cult-focused doctrinal polemics. * How aggressive international cults like Shincheonji (South Korea) and UCKG (Brazil) are operating. * The terrifying reality of indigenous false prophets—from those commanding followers to eat grass to those causing mass starvation deaths (e.g., the Shakahola Forest tragedy). * Why the chaos of extreme charismatic groups, including the New Apostolic Reformation, makes orderly cults, like Mormonism, appealing. * The danger of spiritual inoculation: when false doctrines turn people away from true Christianity. Timestamps (Jump to what interests you!): | 0:00| The Mission: Apologetics & Dealing with Cults | |1:22| What Sets CFAR/ACFAR Apart From Other Mission Agencies? (Doctrinal Polemics) | | 3:43 | Why Counter-Cult Ministry is Necessary (The Biblical Mandate) | | 7:49 | The Danger of Spiritual Inoculation and Disillusionment | | 10:00 | The Staggering Demographics: Africa is the Future of Christianity | | 13:17 | Why African Believers are Especially Vulnerable to Cults | | 17:07 | The Allure of Order vs. Chaos (Mormonism vs. NAR) | | 18:49 | Unmasking the Biggest Threats: International & Indigenous Cults | | 20:16 | The Shocking Reality of Local False Prophets (Shakahola, Mbonye) | | 25:00 | The Devastating Impact of the Word of Faith Movement (Hagin, Oyedepo) | Connect with the Ministries and Support Their Work: The Centers for Apologetics Research (CFAR): thecenters.org LIKE & SHARE this podcast to equip and warn others about these critical issues! SUBSCRIBE for more essential discussions on theology, discernment, and missions. #ChristianApologetics #Cults #Heresy #AfricanChurch #ProsperityGospel #WordOfFaith #FalseProphets #Missions #DoctrinalPolemics #ChristianDiscernment | |||
| EP 19 | Exegesis Matters: Why Getting the Text Right Is So Vital to Expository Preaching (Part 2 of a 2-Part Interview with Dr. Adam Pivec) | 13 Nov 2025 | 00:38:27 | |
Many Christians assume that if a sermon is biblically sound, it must be expository, but is that always true? In this conversation with my husband, Adam Pivec, we look beyond the label to explore what genuine "expository preaching" is. And we provide a checklist of things to listen for during your next Sunday sermon to know if your pastor is exegeting the text. This episode examines subtle, but crucial issues: • Why “using the Bible” doesn't guarantee that a sermon communicates the biblical author's intent • How some sermons begin in the text but drift into opinion or agenda • The role of the pastor as a messenger, not an originator of truth • Why faithful preaching often corrects our expectations rather than confirming them Ultimately, this discussion reminds us that true expository teaching does more than reference Scripture, it submits to it. When the Word leads, the church is not shaped exclusively by the imagination or creativity of the preacher but by the voice of God Himself. | |||
| EP 18 | Exegesis Matters: Why Getting the Text Right Is So Vital to Expository Preaching (Part 1 of a 2-Part Interview with Dr. Adam Pivec) | 30 Oct 2025 | 00:42:45 | |
How to know if a sermon is faithful to the biblical intent? In this episode, I sit down with my husband, Adam Pivec, to talk about something we care deeply about: expository preaching. We explore what it really is, why it's essential for the church today, and why so many sermons drift away from Scripture without people recognizing it.We explain the difference between exegesis (drawing meaning from Scripture) and eisegesis (reading our own ideas into it), and why getting this right is foundational for faithful Christian teaching and discipleship. We also discuss how sermons can subtly shift into opinion, trends, or personality-driven messages, even when pastors still quote the Bible. And Adam shares the concerning methods regularly used to preach within the New Apostolic Reformation movement.If you've ever struggled to find a church that teaches the Bible faithfully, or wondered whether topical sermons can be biblical, we address those issues, too. We also share encouragement for believers who feel discouraged by the lack of churches that teach exegetically, and what to do about it. #exegesis #doctrine #bibleverses #hermeneutics #hollypivec | |||
| EP 17 | Hearing God’s Voice: What Scripture Actually Teaches | 16 Oct 2025 | 00:15:24 | |
Many Christians are told that if they’re not hearing God’s voice through inner impressions, dreams, or prophetic words, they’re missing out on intimacy with Him and knowing His will for their lives. But is that really what the Bible teaches?In this episode, we turn away from popular teachings and look at Scripture itself. What we find is both freeing and grounding: the normative way to hear God’s voice is through His written Word. The Bible is sufficient to equip us for salvation and for living a life pleasing to Him—without the pressure of chasing constant “signs.”You’ll learn:What Scripture actually means when it talks about “obeying God’s voice”Why the sufficiency of Scripture is central to hearing GodHow the “way of wisdom” offers a biblical model for making decisionsWhy God’s guidance doesn’t mean micromanaging our every choiceThis episode is not about dismissing God’s power to speak in extraordinary ways—but about recovering the confidence and peace that comes from growing in our ability to make wise, God-honoring choices.📖 Scriptures discussed: 2 Timothy 3:14–17, Deuteronomy 26:17, 2 Kings 18:11–12, Jeremiah 9:12–13, James 1:5, Proverbs 9, Psalm 111.If you’ve ever wondered how to truly hear God, this talk will help you anchor your faith and decision-making where they belong: in Scripture and the "way of wisdom."#doctrine #theology #bibleverses #hollypivec #godsvoice | |||
| EP 16 | The Hidden Dangers of ‘Hearing God's Voice’: Exposing Spiritual Bondage and Abuse | 03 Oct 2025 | 00:19:31 | |
Is “hearing God’s voice” actually harming Christians? In this eye-opening episode, we expose the hidden dangers behind modern teachings that encourage believers to regularly hear God speak outside of Scripture—focusing especially on Pete Greig’s book How to Hear God. You’ll learn how these teachings: - Enslave Christians to their feelings, dreams, and unreliable impressions - Create dependency on spiritual leaders who claim to hear God “better” - Add unbiblical requirements that compromise the gospel - Cause confusion, anxiety, and bad decision-making - Lead to real damage in missions, evangelism, and church life Through real-life examples, scriptural analysis, and testimony from the mission field, this episode shows why these teachings aren’t just “misused by bad leaders”—they’re spiritually abusive at their core. Key Topics Covered: The dangers of the "hearing God's voice" teachings The illusion of intimacy and divine will Emotional and spiritual exhaustion Manipulative leadership and dependency How missions and evangelism suffer If you've ever felt pressured to “hear God” through inner impressions, leaders, or signs—or if you’ve been told you're missing God’s will—this episode is for you. Coming Soon: A biblical explanation of how Christians should hear God today. | |||
| EP 15 | Does the church "bring heaven to earth"? An interview with Alan Gomes, Part 4 | 19 Sep 2025 | 00:50:05 | |
Will heaven merge with earth, as many scholars claim? What are we to make of NAR leaders' claims that it is the task of the church to "bring heaven to earth"? Is Hillsong's song "What a Beautiful Name" biblical, and should churches sing it? In this conversation, Alan Gomes evaluates popular teachings about heaven found in bestselling books and Grammy award-winning worship songs. Alan Gomes' book on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/40-Questions-about-Heaven-Hell/dp/0825442761 | |||
| EP 14 | Have people really visited heaven and hell? An interview with Alan Gomes, Part 3 | 05 Sep 2025 | 00:51:02 | |
Are trips to heaven and hell and near-death experiences proof of an afterlife, or are they the products of fraud, psychology, or even demonic deception? In this episode, we unpack well-known claims, expose fabrications, and show why Scripture, not sensational stories, must be our foundation for understanding the afterlife. Alan Gomes' book on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/40-Questions-about-Heaven-Hell/dp/0825442761 | |||
| EP13 | Common misconceptions about hell: An interview with Alan Gomes, Part 2 | 22 Aug 2025 | 00:16:42 | |
What really happens after unbelievers die? Are the flames of hell literal? Are alternative views of hell gaining popularity? In this conversation, we explore what Scripture actually says about hell and the common misconceptions Christians often hold. Alan Gomes' book on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/40-Questions-about-Heaven-Hell/dp/0825442761 | |||
| EP 12 | Common misconceptions about heaven: An interview with Alan Gomes, Part 1 | 08 Aug 2025 | 00:32:41 | |
Many Christians assume we’ll spend eternity floating in heaven — but what if Scripture paints a different picture? In this first-ever guest interview, Dr. Alan Gomes (author of 40 Questions About Heaven and Hell) unpacks common misconceptions about heaven, what the “eternal state” really is, and what believers will actually do forever — from worship and work to creativity, learning, and community on the new earth. Alan Gomes' book on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/40-Questions-about-Heaven-Hell/dp/0825442761 | |||
| EP11 | Subverting the Bible’s Authority: Part 5 of Review of Pete Greig’s Book How to Hear God | 25 Jul 2025 | 00:25:07 | |
Are Christians being told to obey fallible prophecies? In this episode, I review Pete Greig’s How to Hear God and show how his teachings, while sounding biblical, subtly undermine Scripture’s authority. He claims the Bible is central, yet urges obedience to dreams and prophetic words that can be mistaken, even suggesting that studying Scripture can hinder hearing God’s voice. I explain why this “bait and switch” is dangerous, how it reflects broader NAR patterns, and why we must test both the words and practices of today’s teachers against Scripture. | |||
| EP10 | Is There a Genie in Your Bible? Part 4 of a Review of Pete Greig’s Book How to Hear God | 10 Jul 2025 | 00:28:17 | |
Just because a verse hits you doesn’t mean it's about you. 📖💭 In this episode, I unpack how popular methods of "hearing God" through Scripture can drift into dangerous territory when context is thrown out the window. When we treat the Bible like a magic mirror, we risk seeing only our own reflection—not God's words. | |||
| EP09 | Why Pete Greig’s “ABC” Prophecy Test Fails the Bible’s Standards | 27 Jun 2025 | 00:33:52 | |
What if “learning” to prophesy is less about hearing God and more about making stuff up? This episode exposes how popular methods like the “ABC filter” blur the line between God’s voice and human guesswork — or worse, flirt with practices the Bible clearly warns against. Rather than relying on a faulty "filter," the best way to test a word is to ask: “Would this survive the tests for prophecy given in Scripture?” | |||
| EP08 | Does God Speak to Us Like This?: Part 2 of a Review of "How to Hear God" by Pete Greig | 12 Jun 2025 | 00:39:26 | |
A lot of Christians today believe God is speaking to them constantly—about everything from major life choices to what shirt to wear. But is that really what Scripture teaches? In this episode, I take a closer look at Pete Greig’s book How to Hear God and examine three commonly misused Bible passages: John 10:27, 1 Kings 19, and 1 Samuel 3. You’ll see how verses pulled out of context can be made to say things they were never meant to say—and why that matters. We’ll talk about Elijah’s “still small voice,” Samuel’s prophetic calling, and what Jesus really meant when He said, “My sheep hear my voice.” The goal here isn’t just to critique a book—it’s to help you grow in biblical discernment. If you’ve ever wondered whether you're supposed to be hearing God speak every day in whispers and impressions, this episode is for you. Let’s test these claims carefully and biblically. | |||
| EP07 | Pete Greig on “How to Hear God” | 30 May 2025 | 00:27:08 | |
Is God really whispering to you... Or are you hearing something else? 🌀 In this episode, we dig into a book that's shaping how thousands think about hearing God, while also shining a light on the hidden influences many Christians don't realize they're embracing. 📚 Whether you're curious, cautious, or convinced, this conversation is worth having. Many Christians long for an intimate, conversational relationship with God, and Pete Greig offers what sounds like simple advice: "Listen and follow Jesus." According to him, all Christian theology boils down to those four words. From major life decisions to tiny, everyday choices—like which shirt to wear—Greig claims God is constantly whispering guidance to those who will listen. But comforting as that may sound, such bold claims demand biblical support. That's where things get convoluted. Greig points to the story of the road to Emmaus as a "master class" in how to hear God's voice. But that story, found in the Gospel of Luke, wasn't written as a manual for discerning divine whispers—it was written to show that Jesus truly rose from the dead and appeared physically to his followers. Reading it as a guide to spiritual intuition not only stretches the text but also ignores its context entirely. | |||
| EP06 | Is it important to learn how to "hear God's voice"? | 15 May 2025 | 00:17:21 | |
When the “key to everything” becomes a catchphrase, it’s time to ask some hard questions. In this episode, we begin examining a popular but rarely scrutinized teaching: that God speaks to us regularly outside of Scripture—and that we need special methods to hear Him. But are we supposed to seek daily divine messages? This isn’t just a theological debate—it’s about spiritual safety and biblical fidelity. | |||
| EP05|What Old Worship Songs Can Show Us About New Ones | 01 May 2025 | 00:25:46 | |
Worship music isn't just about the latest release—it’s a window into how generations before us thought about God. When we only listen to modern worship, we risk becoming blind to our own biases. Sometimes, it takes an old hymn to reveal just how much our theology has been shaped by the trends of today. Want to grow in discernment? Don’t skip the “old stuff.” Just think for a moment about the songs your church sings or what you hear on Christian radio or streaming platforms. What are the lyrics most often about? What are the theological assumptions? What buzzwords keep showing up? Now—how would those compare to the songs written by earlier generations of Christians? Sometimes, the best way to recognize the blind spots of our era is by listening to the voices of the past. In this episode, we explore how worship music—old and new—shapes our theology more than we realize. | |||
| EP04|How to Spot NAR (Part 2) | 17 Apr 2025 | 00:29:52 | |
From fire tunnels to "activation" exercises, I walked through some of the most recognizable signs of New Apostolic Reformation influence in churches today. I shared my firsthand experience at Bethel and unpacked NAR practices like impartation, SOZO, dream interpretation, and "strategic-level" spiritual warfare. This isn’t just about strange practices—it’s about how methods, language, and even church names can reveal unbiblical and harmful beliefs. When you spot these indicators, it’s time to ask deeper questions. | |||
| EP03|How to Spot NAR | 03 Apr 2025 | 00:15:47 | |
Many Christians are unknowingly embracing dangerous teachings that distort the gospel. In this episode, I expose the deceptive tactics of self-proclaimed apostles and prophets, showing how their influence is creeping into churches today. I’ll help you recognize the red flags, understand what’s truly biblical, and protect yourself and your loved ones from spiritual deception. Don’t be misled—let’s talk about what’s really happening. | |||
| EP02|Beware Catchprases | 20 Mar 2025 | 00:29:53 | |
Catchphrases are everywhere—even in Christian circles. But are they always true? In this episode, we break down some popular Christian catchphrases and reveal how they can sometimes distort biblical truth. Don’t let clever words cloud your discernment! | |||
| EP01 | Discerning the Cons, Cults and Counterfeits: The Two Prongs of Biblical Discernment | 06 Mar 2025 | 00:22:21 | |
Unbiblical, harmful teachings and movements are on the rise, and spiritual discernment is at an all-time low. I started my new podcast to equip you to become more discerning so you can protect yourself and your loved ones from spiritual deception. In this first episode, I explain the two-pronged approach to biblical discernment, which you can use to evaluate sermons, books, podcasts, songs, memes, and more. Get equipped—join me as I dive into this crucial topic. | |||