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50: What happens when culture drives the story? Ariel and Stef welcome Filipino American therapist Jez Cornel to talk about why DreamWorks’ Forgotten Island hits so close to home. From karaoke to Lola’s advice to pressure to be the “good kid,” they unpack the details that actually make representation feel like it's repping and why it felt missing in Raya and the Last Dragon.
Spoilers for Forgotten Island and Raya and the Last Dragon.
Chapters
00:00 When culture is the plot 00:32 A Disney podcast celebrating DreamWorks 00:55 Meet Jez Cornel 01:51 Revisiting Raya through Forgotten Island 03:38 What changes when you watch a movie again? 04:58 Filipino community and the film’s rollout 07:43 What intentional representation looks like 09:16 Lola, elders, and connections across generations 12:22 What is kapwa? 13:30 Salbahe kids, good students, and family expectations 16:55 Loving your family and feeling the pressure 19:24 Community in a world of magical creatures 20:29 Growing up with Filipino folklore 23:44 Manananggal, mystery, and Jez’s theories 26:38 Retelling stories shaped by colonization 27:22 What makes a monster? 29:54 Culture as character, scenery, and background 30:38 Raya and the limits of a broad cultural lens 33:04 Making Jo and Raissa’s friendship matter 35:10 Diaspora, identity, and chosen family 37:59 Keeping traditions and changing the harmful ones 40:07 Memory, friendship, and growing together 41:05 “Tayo na,” “Tara na,” and queer readings 44:05 The language only your people understand 45:54 Team Mermahn or Team Raww? 48:49 Where to find Jez 50:08 Episode 50 and a more critical season three
Media/Characters Mentioned
Forgotten Island
Raya and the Last Dragon
Jo
Raissa
Lola
Manang / Manananggal
Batiba
Prince Mermahn
Raww
Aswang
Duwende
Moana
Te Fiti
Te Kā
Mulan
Coco
Black Panther
Avatar: The Last Airbender
WandaVision
Zootopia
Monstropolis / Monsters, Inc.
The Hangover
Demon Slayer
Shrek
Puss in Boots
Squidward
Salbahe Ako
Filipino dramas and TFC
Hallmark Christmas movies
Topics/Themes Mentioned
Filipino and Filipino American representation
Culture as part of the story
Sikolohiyang Pilipino / Filipino Psychology
Kapwa and shared identity
Cultural specificity in animation
Filipino folklore and oral storytelling
Colonial mentality, assimilation, and acculturation
The model minority myth
Family expectations and intergenerational messages
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A Little Less FOMO, A Lot More Magic
Season 3 · Episode 49
Tuesday, July 14, 2026 • Duration 26:40
49: Can doing less make Disney feel more magical? In the Happiest Pod’s first shorter episode, Ariel and Stef reflect on how their relationships with Disney and the podcast have evolved. They talk about slower park days, letting go of FOMO, experiencing Disneyland through growing children, and finding Disney community in unexpected places. They also look ahead to live-action Moana, revisit the X-Men, and share how Toy Story 5 became part of Ariel’s wedding weekend. Sometimes loving something more means experiencing it more intentionally.
Summary
00:00 Episode 49 and trying a shorter format 01:31 Why this season of life calls for smaller episodes 03:03 Slower park days and letting go of Disney FOMO 04:45 How absence made Disneyland feel magical again 05:36 Experiencing the parks through growing children 07:55 Why Disneyland still feels like the “real” park 10:00 Trading Hollywood Studios for Tokyo Disney 11:02 When FOMO becomes anticipation 12:36 Disneyland, Disney World, and the right timeline 13:53 How an EPCOT bachelorette changed group travel 15:18 Expanding the podcast beyond Disneyland 16:37 Finding community through niche fandoms 18:35 Spotting Disney people everywhere, even at CrimeCon 19:45 Upcoming Disney projects and what still feels exciting 21:02X-Men ’97 and returning to stories that endure 22:30 Live-action Moana, representation, and The Rock’s wig 23:59Lilo & Stitch and Pacific Islander representation 25:26 Gramma Tala, Disney tears, and fixing it in post 26:43Toy Story 5 and wedding-weekend synchronicity Experiencing fandom more slowly and fully A new phase for the Happiest Pod
Clinically Ever After
Season 3 · Episode 48
Tuesday, March 24, 2026 • Duration 48:04
48: Join Ariel and Stef with special guest Shaelene, somatic DBT therapist and creator of Clinically Ever After, a Disney-based conference for mental health professionals. What started as a “what if” became a “what is.” This sold-out event brought clinicians and educators together at Walt Disney World, where they found community and reconnected with themselves. From navigating Disney logistics to creating a space that actually feels good to be in, this episode explores burnout, authenticity, and play in professional spaces. Sometimes you wish upon a star. Other times, you remember you are one.
Summary
00:00 Introductions and return from hiatus
01:35 What Clinically Ever After is and how it started
04:48 Behind the scenes of hosting at Disney
08:44 Logistics, costs, and figuring things out in real time
12:07 Personal Disney experiences and planning with familiarity
15:09 Designing a conference that feels fun and welcoming
19:36 Presentations, playfulness, and audience engagement
20:36 Attendee reactions and emotional impact
21:31 Creating a relaxed and open professional space
23:03 Pre-event community building and connection
23:58 Shared fandom as an entry point for relationships
26:13 Authenticity and showing up as yourself in professional settings
28:21 Group dynamics and navigating feelings of exclusion
31:37 Inclusivity across roles and disciplines
33:25 Burnout and the need for support in helping professions
34:52 Bonding through joy instead of stress
37:36 Creativity and play as ways to restore energy
All the Feels in Inside Out 2
Season 2 · Episode 47
Monday, July 1, 2024 • Duration 01:00:40
47: Join Ariel, Stef, and special guest Helen Garcia from Yellow Chair Collective for a heartfelt, hilarious, and insightful discussion on Inside Out 2 and the emotional rollercoaster that is adolescence. This episode unpacks how the film portrays anxiety, perfectionism, and identity shifts with surprising nuance, and why so many of us saw our younger (and current) selves in Riley’s journey. Whether you cried, cringed, or left the theater texting your therapist, this episode holds space for it all!
Summary
00:00 Hosts and guest intros 01:10 Inside Out 2, its massive marketing push, and what got left behind 04:00 Spoiler warning and movie synopsis 06:00 Anxiety’s debut and the anatomy of a panic attack 09:00 When Joy can’t reach Anxiety—symbolism of helplessness 11:00 Emotion combos, Internal Family Systems theory, and dynamic identity 14:00 The evolving sense of self and grounding techniques 17:00 Cultural misattunement during puberty (e.g., immigrant family dynamics) 20:00 Why Riley’s experience didn’t feel universal for everyone 22:00 Cultural TikToks reimagining emotions: Wu Ting, Honor, Filial Piety 24:00 Core belief shifts: “I’m not enough” and perfectionism 27:00 Visual art therapy and naming personal narratives 30:00 Complexity vs. affirmation-only approaches 32:00 Revisiting Joy, Sadness, and emotional integration 34:00 Classroom tools for building identity through the school year 37:00 Changing education systems and honoring the whole child 39:00 Perfectionism as a survival response in racialized and immigrant communities 42:00 Reflections on gamification, experiential learning, and emotional literacy 47:00 Symbolic meanings in control boards and character design 51:00 Are we all driven by one dominant emotion? 54:00 The fragility of identity and metaphor of the belief system design 56:00 Ice skating, burnout, and overachievement culture 58:00 Sports as metaphor for identity, connection, and drive 59:00 Where to find Yellow Chair Collective and final thoughts
Transcription
Speaker 1 0:00Shrink wrap radio, number 300 on the neuroscience of dreaming with Robert Haas.
Magical Ink
Season 2 · Episode 46
Friday, June 28, 2024 • Duration 01:02:44
46: Ariel and Stef are joined by Dr. Jinxi Caddel for a heartfelt and art-filled dive into the world of tattoos, identity, and Disney fandom. From full Alice in Wonderland back pieces to tiny churro flash tats, this episode celebrates how ink becomes a personal archive of memory, culture, and connection.
Jinxi shares her journey from tattoo publishing to mental health, co-owning a tattoo shop, and running a private practice for those who color outside the lines. Together, they unpack stigma, nostalgia, and the healing power of self-expression—through Disney and beyond. Whether you’re tattooed, tattoo-curious, or just love a good Dole Whip, this one’s for you.
Summary
00:00 Hosts and guest introductions 02:00 Childhood Disney memories and first tattoos 04:00 Jinxi’s journey from tattoo publishing to psychology 08:00 Stigma, acceptance, and professional visibility 13:00 Tattoos in families and intergenerational storytelling 16:00 Favorite Disney tattoos—characters, quotes, and food! 20:00 Fandoms in ink: Star Wars, Marvel, and park icons 24:00 Flash tattoos and memory markers 28:00 Permanent makeup and cultural ties 32:00 Tattoos as affirmations and emotional touchstones 35:00 Therapeutic meaning behind body art 40:00 Building safe, expressive spaces in education and therapy 46:00 Final reflections and where to find Jinxi’s work
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00:00:03:20 – 00:00:05:01 Hello, everyone. 00:00:05:01 – 00:00:07:01 Welcome to the Happiest Pod on Earth. 00:00:07:01 – 00:00:07:18 I’m Stef 00:00:07:18 – 00:00:09:12 I’m an educator who uses passions 00:00:09:12 – 00:00:10:09 and fandoms to help 00:00:10:09 – 00:00:11:15 my students grow 00:00:11:15 – 00:00:12:19 and learn about themselves 00:00:12:19 – 00:00:14:07 and the world around them. 00:00:14:07 – 00:00:16:01 And I’m Ariel, a licensed therapist 00:00:16:01 – 00:00:17:20who uses clients passions and fandoms 00:00:17:20 – 00:00:18:15to help them grow 00:00:18:15 – 00:00:19:11and heal from trauma 00:00:19:11 – 00:00:21:19and mental and wellness. 00:00:21:19 – 00:00:23:14And I am Jinxi 00:00:23:14 – 00:00:25:19and I’m a mental health therapist 00:00:25:19 – 00:00:27:12and a book publisher. 00:00:27:12 – 00:00:29:10And the tattoo shop owner, 00:00:29:10 – 00:00:31:11in Eugene, Oregon. 00:00:31:11 – 00:00:33:01I have a practice called Black 00:00:33:01 – 00:00:33:20Sleep Therapy, 00:00:33:20 – 00:00:36:20where, I like to help people who, 00:00:36:22 – 00:00:39:02like to color outside the lines. 00:00:39:02 – 00:00:40:09That might be black sheep 00:00:40:09 – 00:00:43:05or unicorns themselves. 00:00:43:05 – 00:00:45:02So I’m happy to be here. 00:00:45:02 – 00:00:46:04Wonderful. 00:00:46:04 – 00:00:47:11And here at Happiest Pod, 00:00:47:11 – 00:00:48:19we dissect Disney mediums 00:00:48:19 – 00:00:50:05So the critical lens. Why? 00:00:50:05 – 00:00:51:15Because we are more than just fans, 00:00:51:15 – 00:00:53:06and we expect more from the mediums 00:00:53:06 – 00:00:54:07we consume. 00:00:54:07 – 00:00:56:15So, what are we talking about today? 00:00:57:21 – 00:00:59:09Well, we have another very 00:00:59:09 – 00:01:01:04special guest on our podcast. 00:01:01:04 – 00:01:03:04Welcome, Dr. Jinxi Right? 00:01:03:04 – 00:01:04:05It is. 00:01:04:05 – 00:01:05:17Thank you so much. 00:01:05:17 – 00:01:06:11I appreciate it, 00:01:06:11 – 00:01:08:09but I’m so happy to be here. 00:01:08:09 – 00:01:09:15Yeah, absolutely. 00:01:09:15 – 00:01:11:22And we’re we have a really fun topic 00:01:11:22 – 00:01:12:15to talk about. 00:01:12:15 – 00:01:13:18And, 00:01:13:18 – 00:01:16:11we talk about Disney art on many levels, 00:01:16:11 – 00:01:18:09but I think this is a level of Disney 00:01:18:09 – 00:01:20:21art that we haven’t quite talked about, 00:01:20:21 – 00:01:23:14which is body art and tattoos. 00:01:23:14 – 00:01:24:13And, 00:01:24:13 – 00:01:26:11I think with the recent, 00:01:26:11 – 00:01:28:14I think resurgence of tattoos 00:01:28:14 – 00:01:29:17and the accessibility 00:01:29:17 – 00:01:30:19to getting tattoos 00:01:30:19 – 00:01:33:15has been widely seen and respected. 00:01:33:15 – 00:01:35:17And, we just love 00:01:35:17 – 00:01:36:19especially going to the parks 00:01:36:19 – 00:01:37:15and seeing different 00:01:37:15 – 00:01:40:00interpretations of Disney art. 00:01:40:00 – 00:01:40:16And also, 00:01:40:16 – 00:01:40:21you know, 00:01:40:21 – 00:01:42:17we were really curious for you, 00:01:42:17 – 00:01:44:02Dr. Jinxi 00:01:44:02 – 00:01:47:02you’re kind of journey into your 00:01:47:02 – 00:01:49:17amazing life, I think, as a therapist 00:01:49:17 – 00:01:51:02and as an artist. 00:01:51:02 – 00:01:52:18I think it’s a very unique, 00:01:52:18 – 00:01:54:01perspective 00:01:54:01 – 00:01:55:10that not many people know about. 00:01:55:10 – 00:01:57:11Yeah. Well, thank you so much. 00:01:57:11 – 00:02:00:11I, you know, it’s funny because 00:02:00:17 – 00:02:03:14as a child, my very first experience 00:02:03:14 – 00:02:07:03with a tattoo was at Disneyland, 00:02:07:03 – 00:02:10:05and I was behind a girl in line 00:02:10:05 – 00:02:11:16who had a Cheshire 00:02:11:16 – 00:02:14:08cat tattoo on her back. 00:02:14:08 – 00:02:15:20And I thought it was like, 00:02:15:20 – 00:02:18:08the dreamiest thing I had ever seen, 00:02:18:08 – 00:02:19:01and I. 00:02:19:01 – 00:02:19:23I can’t remember 00:02:19:23 – 00:02:22:05how old I was, but I just 00:02:22:05 – 00:02:25:05it was locked in and I just knew 00:02:25:05 – 00:02:27:05someday I wanted tattoos to, 00:02:28:16 – 00:02:30:07And, I 00:02:30:07 – 00:02:31:16actually didn’t get 00:02:31:16 – 00:02:34:01my first tattoo until, 00:02:34:01 – 00:02:34:08like, 00:02:34:08 – 00:02:35:13my mid to late 00:02:35:13 – 00:02:36:2220s, after 00:02:36:22 – 00:02:38:17I had had all of my kids 00:02:38:17 – 00:02:43:23and, I was working as a, an editor 00:02:43:23 – 00:02:44:17and a writer 00:02:44:17 – 00:02:45:18for several, 00:02:45:18 – 00:02:48:18tattoo magazines at the time. 00:02:48:21 – 00:02:51:04And so that just opened 00:02:51:04 – 00:02:51:19my world 00:02:51:19 – 00:02:54:04into all of these incredible artists. 00:02:54:04 – 00:02:55:09And, 00:02:55:09 – 00:02:56:18my very first tattoo 00:02:56:18 – 00:02:59:18was a tiny little cherry on my ankle. 00:03:00:00 – 00:03:01:00And, 00:03:01:00 – 00:03:04:03and that has since grown into pretty much 00:03:04:03 – 00:03:05:06I have my whole head 00:03:05:06 – 00:03:08:05tattooed, down, down to my toes. 00:03:08:05 – 00:03:09:08Most of it’s covered. 00:03:09:08 – 00:03:10:21I have a couple little spo...
Queer Cheer: Disney Dreams & Rainbow Realness
Season 2 · Episode 45
Wednesday, June 19, 2024 • Duration 01:03:24
Join Ariel, Stef, and their guests Jodie Anders and Shalom (aka Boy Venus) for an honest, colorful, and insightful episode that celebrates queer identity through the magic (and mess) of Disney. The conversation spans nostalgic awakenings, media analysis, cultural critique, and the affirming power of telling your story—your way.
Jodie, author of Queer Cheer, shares how travel and diverse narratives helped her discover her own queerness. Shalom, a young activist and indie musician, reflects on the power of subtext in media like Luca and Frozen, and how art has been central to their self-exploration. Together, this group celebrates Pride, critiques tokenism, and envisions a future where queer stories aren’t subplots—they’re the main event.
Summary
Summary of HPOE 45:
00:00 Hosts and Guests Introduction
00:50 Pride Month focus and framing queer media through Disney
02:00 Progress or performative? Disney’s track record on LGBTQ+ representation
06:00 Nostalgic queer awakenings: crushes, princesses, and games
10:00 Queer coding in villains: Ursula, Jafar, and beyond
13:30 Explaining the Hays Code and its legacy in queer subtext
15:00 Highlights from Disney’s official Pride Night
18:00 Emotional weight of safe spaces at theme parks
28:30 Elsa, headcanons, and intersectional readings
31:00 The power of dynamic identities in evolving characters
33:00 Queering Spider-Man and self-discovery through metaphor
36:00 Labels, fluidity, and growing into new identities
38:00 Demisexuality and the importance of representation
40:00 Jodie on travel, storytelling, and affirming queer youth
43:00 Affirmations that actually work
Transcription
Celebrating Juneteenth and Diversity in Disney
Season 2 · Episode 44
Saturday, June 15, 2024 • Duration 53:20
44: Ariel, Stef, and special guest Chance Calloway discuss Juneteenth, media representation, and Disney’s portrayal of Black characters. They highlight Juneteenth’s significance and embodiment of “we’re not free until we are all free.” The episode promotes authentic representations and diverse voices in future Disney projects and teaches audiences about The Transformation Trope, Projection Representation, and Black coded characters.
Summary
Summary of HPOE 44:
00:00 Introduction: Meet Ariel, Stef, and Chance Calloway, and learn about their unique approaches to therapy, education, and creative arts.
01:33 Juneteenth Significance: An in-depth look at Juneteenth, its history, and its recent recognition as a federal holiday. The hosts discuss its unique place among American holidays and its traditions.
07:07 Media Representation: The importance of diverse representation in media, particularly in children’s films. The discussion includes the federal recognition of Juneteenth and calls for authentic portrayals of characters of color in Disney movies.
10:18 Brandy Cinderella Movie: An exploration of the impact of the Brandy Cinderella movie on media representation and its continued relevance in promoting diversity.
21:11 Black Panther: Reflecting on the success of Black Panther and its significance in showcasing Black excellence and representation both in front of and behind the camera.
32:34 Princess Tiana: Critiquing Disney’s portrayal of Princess Tiana in The Princess and the Frog, and advocating for more genuine representations of protagonists of color.
37:55 Black Coding in Disney Films: Discussing the concept of Black coding in Disney movies, the challenges in marketing diverse content, and the importance of amplifying diverse voices in future projects.
43:36 Conclusion: Summarizing the episode’s key points on Juneteenth, media representation, and the portrayal of Black characters in Disney films. The hosts encourage listeners to engage with these critical topics.
Transcription
00:00:09,094 –> 00:00:11,894Ariel Landrum: Hello, everyone. Welcome to the happiest pod on Earth.
Dynamic Disabilities: From Accommodations to Accessibility
Season 2 · Episode 43
Tuesday, June 11, 2024 • Duration 01:00:11
43: Ariel, Stef, and return guest Maria delve into the intricacies of hosting a play therapy conference at Disneyland, focusing on accommodations for dynamic disabilities. They discuss the unique challenges and rewards of planning such an event in a magical setting. They emphasize the importance of inclusivity, accommodations, and the evolving nature of disability services at Disney. They also explore the distinctions between ask culture and guess culture, the impact of ableist assumptions, and practical strategies for integrating play-based interventions for disabled children and adults.
Register for the “Play Therapy: Disney Bound” taking place at Disneyland and the Disneyland Hotel from March 10th-15th, 2025 here:
Register for the “The Supportive Innovations for Therapeutic Heroes Conference (S.I.T.H.)” taking place at Las Cruces Convention Center, New Mexico from September 26th-28th, 2024 here:
Introduction and Terminology (0:00): Ariel, Stef, and Maria introduce Episode 43 and define the key terms of ableism, DEIB, and dynamic disabilities to prepare listeners for the discussion.
Meet the Hosts & Guest (1:26): Ariel, Stef, and Maria introduce themselves and discuss their professional backgrounds.
Maria’s Inspiration and Conference Challenges (2:53): Maria shares her inspiration for choosing Disneyland as the venue for her play therapy conference. She discusses the unique challenges and rewards of planning an event in a magical setting.
Ask Culture vs. Guess Culture (10:01)” The conversation shifts to the importance of asking questions in personal and professional contexts. The trio explores the concepts of ask culture and guess culture and their impacts on event planning.
Transcription
Previously On X-Men with Julia and Eric Lewald
Season 2 · Episode 42
Saturday, May 25, 2024 • Duration 58:49
42: Join Ariel, Stef, and their distinguished guests, Julia and Eric Lewald—writers and showrunners of the X-Men Animated Series. This episode explores the legacy of the original X-Men series, its cultural impact, and the exciting revival with X-Men 97. The Lewalds share the challenges and joys of bringing their beloved characters to life through personal anecdotes and professional insights. Tune in for a nostalgic journey and a look at how X-Men continue to inspire and educate through themes of identity, diversity, and resilience.
Summary
Summary
00:00 Introducing Happiest Pod and Guests: Meet the hosts of Happiest Pod and their special guests, Eric and Julia Lewald, creators of the original X-Men series, as they discuss their passion for dissecting Disney mediums with a critical lens.
01:02 Rediscovering X-Men’s Impact: Explore Eric and Julia’s surreal experience of rediscovering the massive fanbase and impact of X-Men years after the original series ended, leading to a resurgence of interest in the show.
03:13 Family Support and Generational Connection: Discover how Eric and Julia’s family, including their children and grandchildren, have played a supportive role in their journey, bridging generational gaps and connecting with the show’s legacy.
04:20 Working Together as a Married Couple: Delve into Eric and Julia’s unique dynamic as a married couple working in the same industry, exploring how their shared experiences and collaboration have strengthened their relationship and creative process.
06:52 Empathy and Creativity in Collaboration: Uncover the deep empathy and understanding from working closely with a partner in the same field and how shared challenges and experiences can enhance creativity and collaboration.
08:58 X-Men’s Legacy and Social Commentary: Explore the profound impact of X-Men in shaping representation, social justice themes, and fostering discussions on complex topics, reflecting on the show’s legacy and relevance in today’s society.
09:42 Creative Freedom and Storytelling: Learn about Eric and Julia’s creative freedom in developing the X-Men series, balancing staying true to the original material and crafting engaging and impactful storytelling.
Finding Belonging With Turning Red
Season 2 · Episode 41
Tuesday, May 7, 2024 • Duration 51:20
41: Join Ariel, Stef, and their distinguished guests, Soo Jin and Linda—authors and mental health professionals—as they bond over Pixar’s Turning Red. This episode covers the film’s profound themes of family, identity, mental health, and cultural nuances. Our discussion celebrates the movie and the real-life reflections it inspires, especially during AANHPI Heritage Month and Mental Health Awareness Month. Just in time to celebrate Pixar Fest, this conversation promises to bridge the gap between popular culture and professional insights.
00:00 Introduction: Introduction to the episode with Ariel and Stef welcoming guests Soo Jin and Linda, setting up the discussion about Pixar’s Turning Red as it relates to AANHPI Heritage Month, Mental Health Awareness Month, and Pixar Fest.
01:02 Turning Red Discussion Kickoff: Discussion on the significance of Turning Red, how it relates to the personal experiences of the hosts and guests, especially during Asian American, Pacific Islander, and Native Hawaiian Heritage Month.
02:35 Watch Party Experience: Guests share their unique experiences of watching Turning Red through a virtual watch party, emphasizing community and shared experiences in appreciating the film.
07:01 Cultural and Emotional Impact: Delving into how Turning Red reflects personal and cultural narratives, exploring themes of adolescence, identity, and the Asian diaspora experience.
19:34 Deep Dive into Themes: Analysis of the major themes in Turning Red such as identity, family pressure, and the intersection of culture and personal growth, including the challenges faced by second-generation immigrants.
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Media/Characters Mentioned
Disneyland Resort
Walt Disney World Resort
EPCOT
Magic Kingdom
Disney’s Hollywood Studios
Disney California Adventure
Tokyo Disneyland
Tokyo DisneySea
Disney Cruise Line
Magic Key
Pirates of the Caribbean
Haunted Mansion
“it’s a small world”
Guardians of the Galaxy
Moana
Moana 2
Live-action Moana
Moana
Maui
Gramma Tala
Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson
Bretman Rock
Lilo & Stitch
Lilo
Stitch
The Lion King
X-Men ’97
X-Men: Days of Future Past
Quicksilver
Mystique
Evan Peters
Jennifer Lawrence
Avengers: Doomsday
Doctor Doom
Toy Story 5
Fast & Furious
Hawaii Five-0
Doogie Kameāloha, M.D.
Jason Momoa
CrimeCon
Topics/Themes Mentioned
The evolution of the Happiest Pod
Experimenting with shorter podcast episodes
Changing attention spans and media habits
Intentional content consumption
Slowing down and being present
Letting go of Disney FOMO
Anticipation versus fear of missing out
Changing relationships with Disney parks
Enjoying parks without completing a checklist
Returning to Disneyland after time away
Experiencing Disney through growing children
Disneyland versus Walt Disney World
Familiarity, comfort, and a sense of home
Curated experiences and authenticity
The cost and accessibility of Disney trips
Group travel and Disney bachelorette parties
Building community through shared interests
Disney adult stigma
Fandom as a source of belonging
Polynesian and Pacific Islander representation
Expectations for live-action adaptations
Revisiting enduring stories and characters
Friendship, family, and changing seasons of life
Experiencing fandom more fully rather than expansively
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42:26 What’s next: expanding the conference and new theme
Geek Therapy is a 501(c)(3) non-profit that advocates for the effective and meaningful use of popular media in therapeutic, educational, and community practice.
Speaker 2 0:07 Shrink wrap radio, all the psychology you need to know, and just enough to make it dangerous. It’s all in your head. And now here’s your host, Dr Dave music.
Speaker 1 0:27 My return guest today, after a long absence, is Robert J Haas and we’ll be discussing recent developments in the neuroscience of dreaming. Robert Haas MS is author of the book Dream language. He’s also a director and past president of the International Association for the Study of dreams. He’s on the faculty at Hayden Institute for Dream leadership training and a former adjunct faculty for Dream studies at such institutions as Sonoma State University, Richland College and Scottsdale College, a former corporate executive scientist and researcher with training in Gestalt and humanistic psychology, he now devotes his skills to dream studies for which he has been a frequent guest on radio and TV and an internationally acclaimed lecturer and instructor for over 30 years. His unique, simple but powerful dream work approach is based on his training in Gestalt therapy and background in Jungian studies the neurobiology of dreaming, plus his pioneering research on the significance of color in dreams. Now here’s the interview. Bob Haas, welcome back to shrink wrap radio. Well, thank you. It’s great to be back. Yeah, it’s been five years since you were here, back on episode number 90, announcing the 2007 dreams conference and speaking about the language of dreams. Now this is going to be episode number 300 and you can help me celebrate, yeah, you can help me celebrate our 300th shrink wrap radio. And of course, after our interview, I’ll ask you to say a few words about the upcoming 29th annual iasd conference. That’s the International Association for the Study of dreams. But before we get into that, I understand you’ve been doing some work on recent developments in the neuroscience of dreaming.
Speaker 3 2:27 Yes, there’s a tremendous amount of interesting stuff going on now, particularly since over the last decade, certain researchers have been able to use brain scan equipment, PET scans, MRI, things of that sort, or fMRI, to understand what Saturn’s of the brain are active and inactive during the dreaming. Tremendous amount of research out there, and I basically just been kind of compiling it and reporting on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1 2:57 yeah. And you’ve done a terrific job. You sent me a couple of articles that that you’ve written, and very impressive. So what are some of the more exciting things that neurological research has discovered about the dreaming brain?
Speaker 3 3:10 Well, just just kind of going into past history, way back in 1952 the discovery of REM occurred, and at that point in time, we suddenly realized that we dream a great deal of our evening two hours, or roughly for adults, about 24% of our sleep time is spent in in dreaming, or in vivid dreaming. What is what typically happens in what’s known as the REM state, which is a rapid eye movement, but now what? What’s happened during through a lot of other testing and research has been done, as they found that we really dream throughout the entire night, even outside of REM state. However, the Dreaming is the dreaming that we think of as dreaming, which is the more vivid dreams and all still occur during this, this REM state. So there’s been a lot of focus with with brain scan type research on neuroscience, on the REM state as being more associated with the kind of vivid dreams that we typically think of. And what has occurred is that the researchers have found that during our this REM state or this more vivid dream state? A great deal of our brain is active. It’s actually awake. And there are other parts of the brain that are that the activity is diminished in or they’re relatively asleep, and they really create the sort of characteristics we see in a dream, for example, the parts of the brain that tend to be asleep, if I can use that simple term when we dream, are the parts of the frontal cortex, dorsolateral prefrontal cortex, which is our thinking brain, and the rational thinking part of our brain. If. And other areas like motion and parts of the brain responsible for waking consciousness remain pretty much inactive, and what that does is it tends to make our dreams the kind of bizarre characteristics that that we see in our dreams we because there’s no rational filtering going on or rational directing of the dream activities so dreams can hyper Connect.
Speaker 1 5:27 Yeah. Is that because that prefrontal part of the brain that you were talking about is asleep?
Speaker 3 5:34 Yeah, the dorsalatal prefrontal cortex is a part of the frontal cortex that really is responsible for our rational thought, and that tends to be inactive. But now that the a whole bunch of centers are active in our dreams, for instance, in particular, the emotional processing, the emotional brain, the emotional part of our brain, called the limbic system, is highly active, also parts of the frontal cortex, lower frontal cortex and the anterior cingulate, which deal with analytical problem solving, learning and problem solving, about those kinds of activities, are quite active. And the really interesting thing is that our visual our primary visual cortex, is not active, the part we see with which is interesting because we’re seeing our dreams. How...
46:00 Shalom on community building and queer history
50:00 Spotlighting queer media: Punks, Watermelon Woman, indie music
54:00 Real allyship: more than rainbows—listen, uplift, include
59:00 Final thoughts and where to find Queer Cheer and Boy Venus’s music
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Hello, everyone. Welcome to the happiest pot on Earth. I’m Steph. I’m an educator who uses passions and fandoms to help my students grow and learn about themselves and the world around them. And I’m Ariel, a licensed therapist who uses clients passions and fandom to help them grow and heal from trauma and mental and wellness. Hey everyone, I’m Jodi Anders, I am a Jewish bisexual creator and I focus on creating diversity and promoting youth empowerment.
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I currently serve as the publicity and communications director for a youth nonprofit in California, and I’ve spent over two decades mentoring teens in confidence and leadership skills. I’m the coauthor author of Queer Cheer Activities Advice and Affirmations for LGBTQ Plus Teens, and I also produce a podcast. Let’s talk about leadership, service, and Sisterhood, which is a podcast for teens by teens.
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Hi. My name is Shalom. As a student, I’ve been involved in many campaigns and community organizing organizations, working with youth organizers in the San Fernando Valley to fight for the rights of Filipino migrant workers, justice and visibility for displaced ethnic communities abroad, and have worked to create, support and educate members of the Residents of Color community through the creation of my ever growing coalition.
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California State University, Northridge is Queer Students of Color Club. I’m also a queer indie musician, producing music under the name Boy Venus. Check me out on SoundCloud if you’re interested. Specifically working within the electronic genre to make music reminiscent of games like Pokemon Legends of Zelda, Undertale, while also using techniques from artists like Rebecca Sugar, Ivy Tran and Stephen Filemon.
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beautiful. And here at Happiest Pod, we dissect Disney Medium. So the critical lens. Why? Because we are more than just fans and we expect more from the mediums we consume. So, what are we talking about today? As you both heard these wonderful introductions from our exceptional guests today we have Jodi and Shalom.
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Welcome to the happiest Pod on Earth. We are so thrilled that you are here to talk about all things LGBTQ representation. In honor of Pride Month and we’re really excited to really dive in, and, see the world and see the Disney World from Euro Isles lens. So yeah, welcome to the podcast. So to be here, I’m curious, you know, we have heard about representation in general in the media.
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And when it comes to Disney, do you feel or believe that they’re increasing LGBTQ plus representation, and if so, when do you think they’ve done it? And are there opportunities they missed or were they just like completely missed the mark? I feel like it’s kind of like an ebb and flow situation. I mean, it’s definitely had some more, you know, representation.
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And actually this discussion can get so nuanced, right? Because are we talking about like, original animation? Are we talking about like the entire Disney, universe, you know, within Marvel and Star Wars? So, at this point, apparently Hulu’s in there too. So if there’s some horror movies, or other anime animation you want to include that counts.
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Yeah, I think like in the more like traditional sense of Disney Pixar. It’s it’s slowly increasing, like strictly within like movies and TV. Like in movies, I feel like we’re still not other than maybe like Strange World getting those main characters. That would be great. But, it’s really nice to see at least, you know, some nuances through the community, like having a non-binary character in elementals or, just, you know, at least some representation.
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Which is better than that. But, there’s also just questionable things that they’ve done in the sense of like pulling from different markets or, you know, like, I know, so, like when they did Lightyear, I, I loved that they had a Lisa like, that his sidekick was such a big representation. And then it was so incredibly heartbreaking to have this, reaction to what was not even a minute of their relationship, the lesbian relationship she had, which was this beautiful little heartwarming family and, seeing at the time, like them, like pulling it from market to things like that.
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But at the same time, like, if we kind of pull back the lens a little bit,
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at the same time, there’s like getting the, the monthly emails, not even just the LGBTQ, pieces. They will highli...
00:00:11,894 –> 00:00:18,530 I’m Ariel, a licensed therapist who uses clients’ passions and fandoms to help them grow and heal from trauma and mental development.
00:00:18,690 –> 00:00:24,690 Stefanie Bautista: And I’m Stef. I’m an educator who uses her passions and fandoms to educate the kids that I work with.
00:00:24,690 –> 00:00:33,345 Chance Calloway: I’m Chance Calloway. I’m a producer, filmmaker, musician, writer, all around multi hyphenate. Creativity is my passion.
00:00:33,450 –> 00:00:36,410 Stefanie Bautista: And happiest pod is where we dissect Disney mediums with a
00:00:36,410 –> 00:00:41,710 Ariel Landrum: critical lens. Why? Because we are more than just Stef, and we expect more from the mediums we consume.
00:00:42,005 –> 00:00:44,825 So, see, so I have a guest today. Chance, what are we talking about?
00:00:45,204 –> 00:00:48,425 Chance Calloway: Today we’re talking about Juneteenth, and we’re talking about representation.
00:00:48,805 –> 00:00:56,720 Stefanie Bautista: Yeah. Yeah. Chance, as you all know, if you’ve been following us on our podcast and also have seen us at Comic Con or WonderCon,
00:00:56,860 –> 00:01:02,465 Chance is 1 of our very good friends, 1 of our most talented friends, like you said, multi hyphenate.
00:01:02,925 –> 00:01:10,500 And, you know, I feel even when this podcast was coming to its conception, we would organically have a lot of really good
00:01:10,500 –> 00:01:18,425 discussions about the way we consume media and the different things that we expect from it and also want to see from it in the future.
00:01:18,425 –> 00:01:26,080 So I hope that today’s discussion is gonna be very enlightening for those of you aren’t familiar with Juneteenth. So, Chance, would you be
00:01:26,080 –> 00:01:28,420 Ariel Landrum: able to explain what exactly is Juneteenth?
00:01:28,640 –> 00:01:33,845 It became recently a federal holiday, but just because it wasn’t a federal holiday, doesn’t mean that it wasn’t a holiday.
00:01:34,165 –> 00:01:40,825 Chance Calloway: Correct. Yes. Juneteenth, basically, is the embodiment of the term, we’re not free until we’re all free.
00:01:41,180 –> 00:01:47,680 So when, the Emancipation Proclamation was passed, some, black Americans were still enslaved.
00:01:48,060 –> 00:01:51,585 Some black Americans did not know that freedom had arrived.
00:01:51,884 –> 00:02:00,350 And on June 19th, that was the day that they did basically the final, like, enforcement, and made sure that the enslaved people were made free.
00:02:00,430 –> 00:02:05,170 And that’s when a lot of, people in the black community started celebrating it as a holiday.
00:02:05,390 –> 00:02:11,705 Ariel Landrum: I think it’s important to note because it’s hard for people to fathom not getting information immediately.
00:02:12,724 –> 00:02:16,620 Ariel Landrum: There’s an acknowledgment that we get media so quickly.
00:02:16,760 –> 00:02:25,885 We get news so quickly, especially, like, breaking news, reactions to it, that there isn’t this time to, like, digest and
00:02:25,885 –> 00:02:28,465 understand before you’ve moved on to the next thing.
00:02:28,605 –> 00:02:37,650 And I think that the fact that it became a holiday amongst the black community just shows, like, how important and informative it was.
00:02:38,189 –> 00:02:45,695 Chance Calloway: Absolutely. Suleens. Yeah. And I think, for a lot of people, there’s a a hitch that comes with thinking of American holidays,
00:02:46,050 –> 00:02:47,810 you know, and the American flag, things like that.
00:02:47,810 –> 00:02:51,569 We’ve seen you know, it’s been the media a lot because of the cover of Beyonce’s new album.
00:02:51,569 –> 00:02:56,465 A lot of, black Americans kind of don’t respect, like, holidays like the 4th July.
00:02:56,685 –> 00:03:01,905 So then when something like Juneteenth came along, that I can respect. That feels like a celebration.
00:03:02,045 –> 00:03:02,569 Ariel Landrum: And I think
00:03:02,569 –> 00:03:08,510 Stefanie Bautista: when it comes to holidays, there are diff there’s different layers of celebrating and even the word celebrating a holiday.
00:03:08,650 –> 00:03:14,975 Because, essentially, this is 1 of those holidays where it was a realization of something that hadn’t been realized, fully.
00:03:15,115 –> 00:03:22,799 When you’re talking about people celebrating the 4th July, they normally talk about barbecues and doing fun stuff and not,
00:03:22,799 –> 00:03:26,180 you know, the actual reason for the holiday.
00:03:26,400 –> 00:03:34,595 This is 1 of those holidays that kind of wakes us up to the different ways we celebrate and the different ways we honor certain
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Dynamic Disabilities and Accommodations (16:58): Maria explains the concept of dynamic disabilities and their fluctuating nature. The group discusses the importance of accommodations and the evolving policies of Disney’s Disability Access Service (DAS).
Disney’s DAS Program and Challenges (21:21): The discussion delves into recent changes to Disney’s DAS program, including the new pre-registration process and the impact of these changes on visitors with disabilities.
Play-Based Interventions (41:03): The hosts discuss play-based interventions for individuals with disabilities, highlighting the importance of creating inclusive play environments catering to children and adults.
Hosting at Disneyland: Tips and Reflections (47:49): Maria shares practical advice on hosting events at Disneyland, emphasizing early planning and clear communication. She reflects on the success of her play therapy conference and announces details for the next event.
Closing Thoughts and Future Plans (51:59): The episode concludes with reflections on the discussed topics, the importance of continuing advocacy for disability rights, and excitement for future events and conferences.
00:00 – 00:02 Is episode 43 of happiest pot on earth.
00:02 – 00:09 On this episode, we are going to be using some, very specific terminology that we would like to define for you ahead of time
00:09 – 00:13 so when you listen you can feel more prepared. The first term is ableism.
00:13 – 00:22 Ableism is the discrimination of and social prejudice against people with disabilities based on the belief that typical abilities are superior.
00:23 – 00:29 At its heart, ableism is rooted in the assumption that disabled people require fixing and defines people by their disability.
00:30 – 00:38 The second term is diversity. Diversity simply means the differences between people, and equity is about securing everyone’s
00:38 – 00:40 access to the same opportunities and resources.
00:41 – 00:47 Inclusion, which is another term that we use, creates a welcoming and respectful environment, and belonging is the feeling
00:47 – 00:50 of being accepted and part of a community.
00:50 – 00:58 Another term is dynamic disability. A dynamic disability is a condition or impairment that can change in severity and impact over time.
00:59 – 01:05 This can include periods of remission or exasperation or symptoms that fluctuate throughout the day.
01:05 – 01:12 People with dynamic disabilities may experience good days, bad days that are unpredictable, which can make it difficult to
01:12 – 01:14 manage their symptoms and plan for the future.
01:26 – 01:29 Hello, everyone. Welcome to the happiest pod on Earth. I’m Steph.
01:29 – 01:35 I’m an educator who uses passions and fandoms to help my students grow and learn about themselves and the world around them.
01:35 – 01:42 And I’m Ariel, a licensed therapist who uses clients’ passions and fandoms to help them grow and heal from trauma and mental illness.
01:42 – 01:49 I’m Maria. I’m a marriage and family therapist and a registered play therapist who pulls from pop culture to normalized mental health and therapy.
01:49 – 01:53 And here at Happiest Pod, we dissect Disney mediums with a critical lens. Why?
01:53 – 01:56 Because we are more than just fans and we expect more from the mediums we consume.
01:57 – 01:58 So everybody, what are we talking about today?
01:59 – 02:08 Well, we have a very special guest on our podcast today, an old friend, I guess you can say, because we have had her on our podcast before.
02:08 – 02:15 We have Maria who is, a wonderful person, human being, and very talented in what she does.
02:15 – 02:22 I am in awe of everything, that she has accomplished, and, I had so much fun the last time I saw her because the last time
02:22 – 02:26 I we saw her was at the parks. So Yeah. Yeah.
02:26 – 02:33 Yeah. Thank you guys so much for having me back, and thanks for coming and playing with me at Disney.
02:33 – 02:35 I mean, there’s no there’s no better work day than
02:35 – 02:36 a day at Disney.
02:36 – 02:39 You really have to pull our hair to, like, go there.
02:39 – 02:44 We’re just like, I don’t know about this one. That’s such a big ask. Oh, good. Ask.
02:44 – 02:46 I had to leave work. Oh my goodness.
02:46 – 02:53 So, Maria, I’m curious. What inspired you to choose Disneyland as the venue of your play therapy conference?
02:53 – 03:00 And were there any unique challenges and rewards that you encountered in having the magical place be the location
03:00 – 03:11 of your conference? Sure. I mean, when we think about play, and the 3 of us being, Disney adults, fan adults, I mean, there’s
03:11 – 03:15 really not a better place than the parks to go and play. Right?
03:16 – 03:24 And so really the the idea behind the conference was how do I integrate play back into the learning? I’m old.
03:24 – 03:30 I used to attend conference...
16:23 Consulting and Continuation with X-Men 97: Discover Eric and Julia’s experience as consulting producers for X-Men 97, reflecting on the evolution of the industry and the challenges and joys of contributing to the continuation of the beloved series.
25:11 Evolution of Animation Industry: Explore the changes in the animation industry over the years, from production timelines to technological advancements and the impact of social media on creative processes and audience engagement.
28:28 The Art of Releasing Episodes: Exploring the impact of releasing episodes weekly versus all at once, reminiscent of the original X-Men series and the value of discussing episodes with friends and fans.
31:27 Challenges of Accessing Content: Reflecting on the challenges of accessing the content in the past, such as delayed episodes on military bases and the impact of missing out on shared cultural experiences.
32:01 Evolution of Show Intro: Discussing changes in show intros over time, comparing the consistency of the original X-Men series intro with the dynamic intros of X-Men 97.
33:04 Budget Constraints and Creative Change: Exploring the impact of budget cuts on the final season of the original X-Men series, leading to changes in animation quality and music, highlighting the practical challenges in the industry.
36:11 X-Men’s Enduring Theme: Delving into the enduring themes of X-Men, including social commentary, personal struggles, and the evolving nature of human society, emphasizing the importance of appreciating differences and striving for a better world.
42:00 Time Travel and Multiverse Possibilities: Exploring the potential for time travel and multiverse concepts in X-Men 97, hinting at exciting narrative possibilities and connections to broader storytelling universes.
43:45 Narrative Impact and Character Development: Discussing the impact of character narratives and sacrifices in storytelling, highlighting the emotional depth and realism that resonates with audiences, showcasing the importance of character development and impactful storytelling.
47:00 Aspiring Writers’ Advice: Offering valuable advice for aspiring writers and creators, emphasizing consistency, networking, preparedness, flexibility, and the collaborative nature of the industry, encouraging aspiring creatives to hone their craft and embrace the profession’s challenges.
57:00 Closing Remarks and Future Engagements: Expressing gratitude for the impact of X-Men and the joy of creative work, sharing insights on upcoming events like LA con and the uncanny experience, and inviting listeners to engage with the guests on social media.
Media/Characters Mentioned
X-Men: The Animated Series
X-Men 97
Marvel Universe
Charles Xavier
Cyclops (Scott Summers)
Jean Grey
Wolverine
Storm
Beast
Gambit
Rogue
Professor X
Topics/Themes Mentioned
Legacy of X-Men: The Animated Series
Cultural and social impact of the series
Resurgence and revival with X-Men 97
Creative process and challenges in animation
Working dynamics as a married couple in the industry
Representation and diversity in media
Educational applications of X-Men themes
Consulting on new series and maintaining original tone
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34:18 Professional Insights and Book Discussion: Guests discuss how the film’s themes are relevant in their professional practice as mental health professionals and talk about their book, Where I Belong: Healing Trauma and Embracing Asian American Identity, offering insights into therapy and cultural humility.
40:45 Engagement and Representation: Strategies discussed for engaging communities and readers through the themes of the movie, and the importance of representation in media.
47:30 Conclusion and Further Resources: Conclusion of the discussion, reflections on the impact of Turning Red, and information on where listeners can find related resources or engage further with the themes discussed
Transcription
Ariel Landrum (00:00) Hello everyone, welcome to Happiest Pod on Earth. I’m Ariel, a licensed therapist who uses clients’ passions and fandoms to help them grow and heal from trauma and mental unwellness. Stefanie Bautista (00:10) And I’m Stef. I’m an educator who uses my passions and fandoms to help my students grow and learn about themselves and the world around them. Soo Jin Lee (00:16) Hello everyone, my name is Soo Jin Lee. I’m a licensed therapist passionate about supporting Asian Americans address mental health challenges surrounding identity and intergenerational healing. Linda (00:26) Hi, my name is Linda Yoon. I’m a licensed psychotherapist, social worker who is passionate about helping people heal from trauma and recovery. Ariel Landrum (00:35) And here at Happiest Pod, we dissect Disney mediums with a critical lens. Why? Because we are more than just fans and we expect more from the mediums we consume. Stefanie Bautista (00:34) Mm-hmm. That’s right. And so on this episode, everybody, what are we going to discuss Ariel Landrum (00:47) Yeah, so everyone heard we have some very special, awesome guests, Soo Jin and Linda, and we thought this would be the most opportune time to talk about a film that came out essentially during the pandemic that we have revisited a few times, but never got to have on the show. And that is the iconic Pixar movie, Turning Red. And right now it’s Pixar Fest, so I’m hoping that at Disneyland we will be able to see Mei Mei and her mom. Stefanie Bautista (01:10) Yes, and not only is it Pixar Fest, it is also AAPI Heritage Month, which is Asian American, Pacific Islander and Native Hawaiian Heritage Month. So we would love to celebrate this amazing movie that spoke so dearly to my heart and to a lot of people who I know’s hearts, because growing up as an Asian American was a very unique experience. And it is so amazing to see that on the big screen. Unfortunately, the little screen at first, because like as Ariel mentioned, it did come out during COVID. And I’m actually curious to know how did you all watch it? Did you watch it right when it came out? Did you watch it a little later? I know when you have the ability to just watch things on your own, not everybody flocks to the theater. So I’m curious to know how did you all watch it the first time? Linda (01:53) Actually our staff, Soo Jin and I, who run a group practice, we have around that time we had about 20 staff, mostly Asian American therapists, and we were very excited about this film coming out. And we used to do, since everybody’s working in the remote right, we used to do Happy Hour Friday. We didn’t really drink, we just watched movie together and had boba. That’s what we did. Ariel Landrum (02:09) Mm-hmm. No, beautiful, beautiful. Soo Jin Lee (02:17) That’s the drink, the boba. Linda (02:19) The boba. And there used to be a lot of platforms that you can share screen and watch movies together during this time, right? So we actually watched like about seven of us gathered together. And that was my first time watching Turning Red. Stefanie Bautista (02:19) Yes. Ariel Landrum (02:24) Mm-hmm. Soo Jin Lee (02:30) Me too, yeah. So essentially we had a watch party at our work, which was really amazing. And this was, Turning Red was the one that everyone wanted to watch and we were so excited to watch it together. And so we definitely watched it on the mini screen for me because I had a laptop at the time. But even so, you know, in the mini screen of my laptop, I was just so zoned into the movie. Ariel Landrum (02:34) Mm-hmm. Hahaha! Stefanie Bautista (02:45) Right, yeah, yeah. Ariel Landrum (02:52) Yeah, yeah, so I did watch it at home. My TV is 78 inches, so I don’t think it feels many to me. And I watched it with at the time my roommate because my partner was working at the ski resort and it was nice having a conversation with my roommate because they are a non-binary white person, and they got to ask questions about my experience and if I understood like some of the themes happening in the movie. And I was presenting the themes that like stuck out to me. And it was really interesting how they had noted a part of the movie that I hadn’t considered because I was so engrossed in how it like solidified my experience as diaspora, which was the part of the movie where there was like a potential hint towards like a period. Soo Jin Lee (03:34) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Ariel Landrum (03:34) that never gets discussed anywhere. And I had so bypassed that. And they had highlighted how that was really so pivotal for them to see and how sad it was that we weren’t seeing it in theaters because o...
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