In today's episode, I chat with Jordan Lange, founder at Axon, about building a product that solves the unsexy but showstopping problem underneath all GTM engineering: CRM data quality. Axon acts as an observability layer for HubSpot, identifying messy, duplicate, and missing records that break downstream automations—then cleaning them automatically.
We explore a real example where a Zapier automation was completely falling apart because the product was sending clean domain strings while the CRM data had www, HTTPS, and query params attached, meaning there was no shared key to join on across 437,000 records—a problem Axon fixed in hours. Jordan's analogy: putting olive oil in a Ferrari. The GTM engineer is the Ferrari, but if the fuel going in is dirty data, nothing moves. His prediction: GTM engineers are more important than ever as contact data gets commoditized and companies need people who know how to activate it—and right now is the window to build serious infrastructure using relatively cheap AI tools before those tools get expensive as dependency on them grows. Jordan shares his path as the first RevOps hire at Gorgias, scaling from $10M to $70M ARR, watching CRM cleanup slowly eat his entire job as automations multiplied and data quality became the single biggest blocker to growth—quitting to start a RevOps agency, immediately hitting the same wall at his first client, and realizing the problem was unavoidable wherever GTM automation existed, so he built Axon to solve it.
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(00:00) Introduction to Outbound Wizards
(00:21) What Axon Does: CRM Observability and Automatic Data Cleanup for HubSpot
(02:01) Real Example: 437,000 Records Fixed After a Domain Mismatch Broke All Automations
(04:09) The Ferrari Analogy: GTM Engineers Need Clean Fuel or Nothing Moves
(05:36) Onboarding Process: Two-Minute Form, One-Hour Analysis, Same-Day Portal Access
(07:14) Jordan's Journey: First RevOps Hire at Gorgias, $10M to $70M ARR
(08:51) How CRM Cleanup Slowly Ate His Entire Job as Automations Multiplied
(09:17) Quitting to Start a RevOps Agency, Hitting the Same Wall at Client One
(10:06) Building Axon After Realizing the Problem Was Unavoidable Everywhere
(12:49) Future Predictions: GTM Engineers Are Most Valuable Right Now, AI Window Is Open
(15:00) The Human Detection Problem: AI Spam Whiplash and Why Human Voice Still Matters
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