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BusinessDesk’s Peter Griffin joins Duncan Greive on The Fold to discuss the big storylines at the intersection of technology and media. These include the latest iteration of the news media bargaining code, the under 16 social media ban, the growing wave of opposition to data centres – all of which feature New Zealand lagging, often badly. Plus what’s really going on with the story of OpenAI’s model breaching its sandbox. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Regular Fold listeners know that the release of NZ on Air’s ‘Where are the Audiences?’ media research is the biggest day of the media year. Duncan Greive is joined by PHD’s chief planning and strategy officer, James Davidson, to pick their 10 favourite insights from this year’s extremely interesting edition. This episode is presented in partnership with PHD Aotearoa. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Follow At Large with Toby Manhire now on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠ or wherever you get your podcasts. The prime minister got a shock when he saw the media coverage of his breakfast meeting with Rotorua businesspeople – it talked of him scolding them about a “parent-child mentality” in government-business relations, urging “adult” behaviour and recounting his own attitude in Chicago corporate life. So his office issued a transcript of the exchange, which didn’t much help. Duncan Greive, founder of The Spinoff, joins Toby (with a cameo from Claude AI) to discuss the PM’s communication challenges, and his ongoing struggle to take any grip of the narrative. (Since this podcast was recorded, Luxon has apologised for the remarks.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Glen Kyne returns to The Fold for the first time since May to check in with the two goliaths of New Zealand’s commercial digital news media: Stuff and the NZ Herald. The Herald has launched a new app and more tightly integrated video into its offer; Stuff is trying hyper local and reaping the early benefits of its bold appointment of Matthew Hooton as editor of The Post. Noteworthy: Duncan is forced to eat a medium portion of humble pie. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Melodie Robinson is TVNZ’s head of sports and events, and joins Duncan Greive on The Fold to discuss the truly astounding performance of the recently concluded Fifa World Cup on streaming. The pair discuss the tournament pass, what the new TVNZ+ unlocks from a data and advertising point of view, and what rugby can learn from Fifa and the NRL. They also chat about Robinson’s huge new role at Amazon, leading cloud integrations for sports leagues. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As Christopher Luxon declares he’ll “die trying” to get something done in banning social media for New Zealand children under 16, it’s a good time to ask: how is the pioneering Australian prohibition going? Hal Crawford, editorial director at Mumbrella and former boss of Newshub NZ, joins Toby to explain, seven months in, what is working, what isn’t, and what he’d say to the NZ PM if he was called into the Beehive. Plus: in How Good, Robbie Nicol goes on a journey. To the Imax. To watch Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey. Follow At Large with Toby Manhire now on ⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠ or wherever you get your podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Irene Gardiner is president of SPADA, the organisation which represents screen producers in Aotearoa. She joins Duncan Greive on The Fold to discuss Election 2026 and Beyond: Screen Industry Challenges and Solutions, a document which seeks to donate policy ideas to government, to comfort a sector suffering through multifaceted challenges. She talks through the plan, and the politics of it all. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From the press gallery to spin doctor for Helen Clark and chief of staff to Jacinda Ardern, Mike Munro has seen plenty of the kaleidoscope in New Zealand politics and media. He joins Toby to talk about those roles and how it all has changed through the decades. Plus: In How Good, Liam Rātana on Matariki with a bonus beat from Te Aihe on Bryn & Ku’s Singles Club, season two. At Large with Toby Manhire is produced by Te Aihe Butler, Jin Fellet and The Spinoff. Read more at ⁠thespinoff.co.nz⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sarah Murray was a longtime staffer at FQ under different owners, before making a bold move to buy the publication outright in 2023. She joins Duncan Greive on The Fold to talk about the publication’s history and its transformation under her stewardship, including its insider club, its awards night and the rise of its ‘sleepover’ activations, which builds a bridge to the creator economy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Toby Manhire joins Duncan Greive for an emergency episode to discuss the genuine shock appointment of columnist and political operator Matthew Hooton to editor-in-chief of The Post. We discuss his history, what his columns tell us about him, the potential fallout with staff and audiences, and whether his lack of newsroom experience is surmountable. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jason Monteiro is head of streaming for WBD across APAC, and joins Glen Kyne and Duncan Greive on The Fold to discuss the late arrival of one of the biggest streaming platforms in the world to a small and seemingly saturated market. Monteiro makes the case that this is not just some of Sky’s Neon in new clothes, but in fact a powerful and singular platform in its own right. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hamish McNicol and Calida Stuart-Menteath co-edit the National Business Review, New Zealand's business publication of record. For a publication which could appear very conservative, it has been anything but across both its editorial output and its business strategy. McNicol and Stuart-Menteath join Duncan Greive on The Fold to discuss their flagship editorial project, the Rich List, and the impact of various brilliant (and occasionally bizarre) decisions the NBR’s owners, Todd and Jackie Scott, have made over the years. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duncan Greive is joined by James Davidson, Chief Strategy & Planning Officer, PHD Aotearoa; Lisa Leicester – Head of Social & Innovation, Omnicom Media; and Mike Delaney  –  Group Product Director, Omnicom Media, all in partnership with PHD Aotearoa.In the age of influencer marketing, the strict planning and measurement tools long honed by the media industry and expected by brands were effectively thrown to the wind in favour of likes, shares, and attractive people spruiking brands. Omnicom's development and recent launch of CREO to the NZ market aims to correct that by offering a single solution for planning, deploying and measuring creators as a media channel – not an add-on tactic. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Glen Kyne returns to The Fold to analyse the resignation of Paul Thompson after 13 years running RNZ, look back on the Re: News era and touch on last week’s (not Voyager) Media Awards. We also provide quick reactions to Budget 2026 and what it presents for the media sector. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sharp-eyed and longtime Spinoff readers might have noticed that The Fold host Duncan Greive has been staggeringly unproductive as a writer lately. For once, there is a good explanation for that: a new and quite ambitious new music app and platform named Lume. To manage the colossal conflict of interest that entails, The Spinoff’s editor-at-large Toby Manhire guest hosts The Fold to ask Duncan all about Lume. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Media is a fraught place at the moment, less due to persistent economic challenges than external forces acting upon it. Glen Kyne returns to The Fold to discuss the end of Maiki Sherman’s time as political editor at TVNZ, the shutdown of the BSA and David Seymour’s pointed provocations of RNZ. Finally, they talk about the travails of rugby in Auckland, after a weekend that showed the strength of the Auckland FC and Warriors brands, and the comparative flakiness of the Blues (producer Te Aihe joins as Hurricanes correspondent to ensure we acknowledge their part in rugby’s issues in the big smoke). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Philippa Rennie has had a near unique view of real life TV storytelling in New Zealand. She worked as the in-house lawyer for Warner Brother Productions for a decade, before moving across to make television as head of scripted there. She joins the Fold to speak with admirable candour about what went wrong on shows like Married at First Sight, why Julie Christie probably isn’t the right person to make a show about the Marokopa-Phillips case, and how you satisfy ethical considerations while still making compelling television. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duncan Greive flies solo to break down and respond to the shock decision to shut down the BSA. He gives reaction from the key players, talks about where it might head next and pays tribute to the courage of the BSA in opening a door when this was always a likely outcome. Then he gives a view of the Maiki Sherman affair, before closing on a quick take on the first month of John Campbell's Morning Report. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rob Harvey is CEO of Dentsu across Australia and New Zealand – it’s one of the biggest ad agencies in the world, and Rob is notable for the length of time he’s spent leading it locally. In an industry notable for executives burning bright then shifting up, down and sideways, Harvey has been a deeply committed constant. He’s led the Aotearoa business since 2013 – before Netflix landed here – and last year took over the Australian operation too, meaning he now oversees more than 1000 staff across its various brands.  Dentsu is notable for a number of reasons. It’s one of what used to be known as the “big six” ad agencies, now the “big five” after the merger of Omnicom and IPG. They’re known as the “holdcos” within advertising, and the term can be used derisively by some, as a synonym for mercilessly squeezing and flattening in a way which doesn’t necessarily deliver the best for its people or clients. However Rob offers a persuasive defence of the model, saying the name no longer well-describes his business at least. Dentsu is also the only one of the “big five” from Japan, which has a legendarily specific and singular business culture, so we talk about how that flows through its offices.  Dentsu has endured a tough few years in this part of the world, with Australia recording a massive $500m paper loss in 2023, in part due to a bet on competing with the consultancies on broader business strategy work. None of that happened on Harvey’s watch however, and the business is considered to be well into a turnaround.  Finally, because this episode is recorded in partnership with the Communications Council – of which Harvey is president – we discuss their excellent event Media Spotlight, happening in late May. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sam Stuchbury is the executive creative director and founder of Motion Sickness, and Lee Lowndes is the chief executive and founder of Daylight. Each of them run independent creative agencies, each is under 40, each took home golds at the recent Axis Awards, and - most importantly - each has a very differentiated conception of what an agency is in 2026. They have each found a way to thrive in an era where many of the big ad agencies feel defined more by their challenges than opportunities.Motion Sickness is on some kind of hot streak, and has just made the decision to rebrand as a creative company over an ad agency. That hasn’t stopped them taking home a raft of advertising awards. Cannes Lions have called them one of the top five global independent agencies this year, they took the Grand Prix for their herpes work, and were just named agency of the year at Axis for their Māori roll call, and their brilliantly original work helping bring people back to Karangahape Road.Daylight, meanwhile, defines itself as a “creative and technology studio”, meaning it builds digital products then wraps campaigns around them to get those apps to the right audiences. Its most recent output is Billy, a highly sophisticated tool to get consumers onto the best energy plan, with a major media campaign to help build awareness of it. They’ve also built platforms for media organisations like the Pacific Media Network and Fiji Sun, along with continuing their work for the World Health Organization.Duncan Greive is a shareholder and co-founder of Daylight. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Glen Kyne returns to The Fold to catch up on all the biggest stories in recent times. We look at the existential challenge the BSA opened up, and try and figure out what’s really going on with Troy Bowker and Stuff. Then we look at the recent NZME workplace review, and contrast it with a much more substantial effort from Mediaworks a few years ago. We assess the early returns from Tova O’Brien’s arrival at TVNZ and John Campbell at RNZ, before finally weighing in on the Tom Phillips documentary controversy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

He’s very familiar as the star of Wellington Paranormal, and a radio host with Hauraki – but Mike Minogue’s greatest achievement might be Frank, his burgeoning agency. Frustrated with the quality of talent representation in Aotearoa, Minogue started Frank to bring a different approach to the established players. But he added speaker representation and, crucially, podcast representation to Frank’s mix – and in so doing set it up for a landmark deal.Today, The Fold can reveal that Frank is the exclusive supplier of podcasts to TVNZ+ – a milestone for the form, and one which brings TVNZ into line with Netflix and YouTube, each of which is making a big play to make podcasts a big part of their strategy. Minogue joins Duncan Greive on The Fold to explain his motives for starting Frank, and why he is betting big on podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard Edelman was deeply prescient, when he responded to the “battle for Seattle” by commissioning an annual global survey of institutional trust. For a quarter century the trust barometer has revealed the extent to which countries and societies have grown insular and mistrustful, and catalogued the downstream consequences. basically, it’s not just media, it’s everyone.New Zealand is no different, and Acumen, which runs the research locally, has the numbers. Chief executive Adelle Keely joins Duncan Greive to discuss what it shows, and what (if anything) can be done about it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After six months of careful deliberation, and six years after it first floated the idea, the broadcasting standards authority decided that it definitively does have jurisdiction over platforms like The Platform. This set off a firestorm stretching across politics, law and media, with the regulator having the temerity to suggest that one, relatively tiny corner of the internet was within its bounds. In a reversal of typical roles, Toby Manhire hosts Duncan Greive to break down this story, at once arcane and enormous. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joe Webb was working as a coder when he printed a t-shirt at a mate’s house. Within a few years YOUKNOW had become a ubiquitous brand, thanks to their knack for creating social content which created a real sense of community. Then in 2023 he repeated the trick in a whole new paradigm, launching The Morning Shift as a daily podcast to overnight success. He joins Duncan Greive on The Fold to talk about the challenges of running these two businesses, what made each click – and why the future of the media side is aiming global. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joel Gouveia is a music supervisor, artist manager and booking agent, with a Substack. Earlier this year he wrote a series of posts, each more successful than the last, which drilled into the streaming music economy in a vivid and challenging way. He talked about bands with millions of streams that sold a dozen tickets, while others with comparatively tiny audiences could sell out tours. He looked some of the economic and cultural failings of music streaming and shone a bright light on them, basically – and those posts were the most popular pieces on the whole Substack network, showing just what a chord he struck. He joins Duncan Greive on The Fold from his office in Toronto to explain his thinking, and why he started speaking out. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Alan Soon is a journalist and media consultant who runs Splice Beta, one of Asia’s most popular news media festivals. He recently wrote an extremely provocative piece arguing that journalism as an institution has been ignoring and underplaying advances in AI. He joins Duncan Greive on The Fold from Singapore to unpack this thesis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Fold’s regular hosts go through the audience’s best questions, running from media buying to the government as an advertiser to the future of Sky to whether Three should have been born at all. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Last call for our first ever listener questions episode – fill out this form to pose a question of hosts Duncan Greive and Glen Kyne. Glen Kyne joins Duncan Greive to discuss a major week for Sky, which staged the first upfronts from any New Zealand broadcaster since 2023, and delivered its first set of results since its acquisition of Three. After attending the upfronts, Glen and Duncan share their notes – and also analyse Paramount’s shock win in the race to acquire Warner Brothers, and NZME’s impressive annual results (and some late-breaking editorial news). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Fold's first ever listener questions episode is coming – fill out this form to pose a question of hosts Duncan Greive and Glen Kyne. A different episode of The Fold this week, leaning on Glen Kyne's deep experience with MediaWorks to tell the story of this perennial underdog of the big media companies – one which has always had great, authentic brands and even greater debt loads. Now that it's finally debt-free, Kyne talks Greive through the great saga of its various eras, as it finds itself once again for sale. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Fold's first ever listener questions episode is coming – fill out this form to pose a question of hosts Duncan Greive and Glen Kyne. Anna Rawhiti-Connell joins Duncan Greive on The Fold to discuss three huge stories impacting the social media and platform world. First is a landmark trial which contends social platforms are faulty products which visit huge harms upon their users – both Snap and TikTok have settled out of court, while Meta and Google will go to trial in a case with potentially enormous implications for the platforms.Next, they discuss the under-16 ban movement, which is spreading rapidly around the world, including New Zealand. Finally they analyse the EU’s multi-faceted resistance to big tech, one which epitomises the downstream consequences of Trump’s hostility toward his traditional allies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Fold's first ever listener question's episode is coming – fill out this form to pose a question of hosts Duncan Greive and Glen Kyne. This week, Glen joins Duncan to discuss a flood of major media stories, led by breaking news: The Warehouse Group's shock decision to pause all advertising. Then they discuss the future of Mediaworks after its split from QMS, the end of a dismal era for the Washington Post's CEO Will Lewis, a new CEO for Disney and a fork in the road for Nielsen in New Zealand. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Eddie Johnston is first and foremost a huge music fan – he grew up loving New Zealand artists like The Mint Chicks and the Phoenix Foundation, and understood music in the paradigm of CDs and scenes. For many artists, even young musicians, those were the archetypal good old days, before social and streaming broke the model. But Johnston, who performs under the name Lontalius, has a clear-eyed and unsentimental response to the changing times, and tries to find ways to love making music even in the big tech era. He joins Duncan Greive ahead of his Laneway slot to explain how he learned to stop worrying and love the platforms, deep flaws and all. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A quite different episode this week, because discussing media without reference to the wider world feels particularly pointless at the moment. Duncan Greive hosts his friend David Brain on The Fold, to discuss Davos, the gathering of political, business and media elites, all in the shadow of Trump. Brain is a longtime attendee of Davos, and breaks down what it’s like on the ground, its noble intentions, its wrong turns and how incompatible it feels with the new world order, before trying to figure out what New Zealand’s response should be. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Glen Kyne joins Duncan Greive on The Fold to discuss the biggest questions facing New Zealand's media in 2026. How will the John Campbell signing impact RNZ? Can NZ Rugby arrest its slide into chaos or has Sky got a big problem with its biggest partner? Will TVNZ follow Netflix into podcasts or UGC? Is Jim Grenon done with NZME? Will the Warner Brothers acquisition go through, and how will that change Netflix – and impact New Zealand? Is our government going to keep watching forever, or will it act? Will TradeMe take all of Stuff, and where will that leave mastheads? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Fold is taking a break over summer. We’ll be back soon with new episodes but, until then, here’s one of our favourites from 2025: Anna Rawhiti-Connell joins Duncan Greive on The Fold to discuss two violent deaths, one driven by the internet, the other digested by it. They discuss how each shows in different yet profound ways how treating the internet as a separate sphere of life is increasingly impossible – rendering the libertarianism of one incompatible with the laws and mores of the other. This episode was originally published on September 16 2025. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Fold is taking a break over summer. We’ll be back soon with new episodes but, until then, here’s one of our favourites from 2025: Sophie Moloney has been CEO of Sky NZ for five years. For much of that time she’s been dealing with downsides – a failed acquisition of MediaWorks, Spark Sports gifting their rights to TVNZ and prolonged satellite issues. But lately, things have been looking up. They successfully brought NZ Cricket rights back, scooped up Three’s assets for $1, and just last week lengthened their rugby deal under very buyer-friendly terms. She joins Duncan Greive on the Fold to dig into all those issues and more. This episode was originally published on August 29 2025. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Fold is taking a break over summer. We’ll be back soon with new episodes but, until then, here’s one of our favourites from 2025: Nick Becker is an Aucklander who spent 15 years in the UK, much of it in key roles with huge EPL teams Arsenal and Manchester City, before a spell in Melbourne. He returned home to launch the city’s first professional football team in more than a decade – one which overcame early doubts to become a phenomenon right out of the gate. He joins Duncan Greive on The Fold to talk about the decision to let a documentary crew film their first season, how to build fan engagement and delve into the complexities of reach versus reward in sports rights. This episode was originally published on July 15 2025. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Glen Kyne and Duncan Greive complete the second part of The Fold’s 2025 finale, this time picking and ranking the five best performing global media players. The podcast was recorded in the immediate aftermath of the Netflix-WBD news, which scrambled rankings and will be a huge storyline for months, perhaps years, to come. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Glen Kyne joins Duncan Greive for a two-part finale, ranking the performances of New Zealand’s scale media companies. They take on MediaWorks, NZME, RNZ, Sky, Stuff and TVNZ, based on public facing metrics, conversations and general vibe-based diagnosis. There’s a clear winner, but wide disagreement on the losers. PLUS an instant reaction to the Netflix-WBD deal. RNZ’s Paul Thompson on that bombshell radio report Sky CEO Sophie Moloney on the NZ rugby and Three deals and the depth of its moat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025 has been a year of profound change in the regulatory landscape for Australian media. There is a social media ban for under 16s, which goes live next week. There are new local content spending rules for the big paid streaming platforms. And there is a revised version of the news bargaining code which aims squarely at Meta. Tim Burrowes has covered all this at Mumbrella, and rejoins The Fold to update Duncan Greive on what our near neighbour is doing – and what our government could copy (but probably wont). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Last week we kicked off a new partnership with New Zealand's leading media agency, PHD, which will partner with The Spinoff and The Fold on a series of podcasts on the increasingly complex intersection of media, advertising and technology. We held a live event at The Spinoff in front of a room full of senior marketers, featuring Helen Brown (PHD Chief Investment Officer) and Rachel Bayfield (PHD Chief Technology & Innovation Officer), along with James Davidson, (PHD Chief Strategy and Planning Officer). We reviewed the year in local media, highlighted by a pair of major deals at Stuff and Sky, while surveying big changes in search and the continued strength of OOH and radio. Finally we cast ahead with some predictions for 2026. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duncan Greive goes solo to deliver a quick response to the NZ Screen Awards, which fused film with television in a way which showed a lot of promise while also needing some serious tightening. There were big wins for The Convert, and a big beautiful crowd, but Tinā felt neglected and the randomised nature of the awards meant that energy came and went. The highlights more than justified the exercise – but a more streamlined and sequenced show should be the aim for 2026. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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2025 sees the release of the latest in The Fold’s obsession: NZ on Air’s Where Are the Audiences research. This time the focus is on children’s media – the third time this subject has been assessed, following work in 2015 and 2020. It tells a story even more stark and challenging than that which comes out of the bigger grown-ups survey. The Spinoff’s head of audience Anna Rawhiti-Connell has dug into the report, and talks with Duncan Greive about its most interesting insights. Then they dig into a fascinating new piece of research from the Broadcasting Standards Authority on the often vexed issue of trust in news media – one which has fresh detail both on types of media consumed, and how trust actually works in this context. https://www.nzonair.govt.nz/news/where-are-the-audiences-childrens-media-use-report-2025/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Spinoff editor-at-large Toby Manhire joins Duncan Greive this week to discuss a very unfortunate case of journalistic mistaken identity. Former Herald reporter Bevan Hurley had an explosive exclusive with former Bill de Blasio, in which the former New York mayor critiqued Zohran Mamdani, the current mayoral candidate he had previously strongly endorsed. Or so Hurley thought – he had in fact been talking to a wine importer by the name of Bill DeBlasio, who holds very different views to his near-namesake. It blew up into an international media storm, which the pair break down, along with a confession from Toby's past at the Guardian. Also, the succession situations at Morning Report and TVNZ’s 6pm bulletin – what are the risks and opportunities for those two big dogs of our news media? And finally, a word on Juggernaut II – the sequel to our hit 2024 podcast which launches next week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Liam Rātana, editor of The Spinoff Ātea, joins Duncan Greive on The Fold to discuss a piece he wrote last week, about some seismic changes to the Māori media landscape. Two iconic shows, Te Karere and The Hui, one of which has been on the air for more than 40 years, were turned down for funding in the most recent Te Māngai Pāho round. The decision was in part financially driven – there’s a fiscal cliff coming – but also a recognition that these shows, which have their origins in linear and still feel built around that medium’s preferences, are not necessarily where the majority of Māori find their news. Rātana explains the background, and where Māori media is going – potentially presaging moves mainstream news funders will have to make in years to come. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Glen Kyne returns to The Fold to discuss the background, stakes and possible outcome of a small battle that sets up a much larger question: how do we regulate the internet? It's one successive governments have thought about then studiously avoided. The BSA might just have forced them to confront it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The biggest phenomenon in pop culture released her latest album a week ago. Taylor Swift’s The Life of a Showgirl smashed records wherever it went, but was also greeted by an unfamiliar reaction: indifference. Not just by critics, but by her fans too. Duncan Greive is joined by The Spinoff’s Alex Casey and Lyric Waiwiri-Smith – two lifelong Swift fans who also felt the bubble pop this week – to discuss an album that promised much but felt like a letdown to many. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From a traditional "direct" medium to a data-driven powerhouse, out-of-home media has undergone a true evolution. Over a 17-year period, the out-of-home space has gone from commanding a mere 3% of industry ad revenue to approximately 18%, expanding to fill the void left by fragmenting media channels like linear television. Duncan Greive is joined by Kurt Malcolm, Head of Trading and Platforms at JCDecaux NZ, and Richard Thompson, Founder of D3, to discuss how innovations like knOOH - a cross-industry collaboration to measure audience - have contributed to the continued rise of out-of-home in Aotearoa. This is the final episode of our partnership with JC Decaux. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices