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The Florida Insurance Roundup from Lisa Miller & Associates

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"The Florida Insurance Roundup" podcast from Lisa Miller & Associates, is your program on the people, issues, and regulations shaping Florida’s Insurance Market. Lisa, a former deputy insurance commissioner, brings you the latest developments in Property & Casualty, Healthcare, Workers' Compensation, Litigation, and Surplus Lines insurance from around the Sunshine State. She is a nationally-recognized disaster insurance and recovery expert. Based in the state capital of Tallahassee, Lisa Miller & Associates provides its clients with focused, intelligent, and cost conscious solutions to their business development, government consulting, and public relations needs. On the web at www.LisaMillerAssociates.com or call 850-222-1041 or email at info@LisaMillerAssociates.com. Your questions, comments, and suggestions are welcome! The Listener Call-In Line for your recorded questions and comments to air in future episodes is 850-388-8002.

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Episode 57: Florida’s Property Insurance Reforms: Lessons Learned from Workers’ Comp

Episode 57

Saturday, April 19, 2025 • Duration 27:12

A multi-bill effort led by attorney lawmakers in the Florida House of Representatives would roll-back many property insurance litigation reforms passed in the 2022-2023 legislative session. Those reforms are reminiscent of the Workers’ Compensation insurance reforms passed in the early 2000’s that today has Florida boasting one of the lowest workers’ comp rates in the country.

Former Florida Deputy Insurance Commissioner Lisa Miller talks with Jon Shebel, former President & CEO of Associated Industries of Florida who led the workers’ comp efforts. Shebel draws direct comparisons between both reform efforts, argues that the proposed bills this session don’t help consumers, and urges the legislature to listen to the data, as it did with workers’ comp, that shows property insurance reforms are working to reduce homeowners insurance rates.

Show Notes (For full Show Notes, visit https://lisamillerassociates.com/episode-57-floridas-property-insurance-reforms-lessons-learned-from-workers-comp/)

Jon Shebel recounts his role in Florida’s 2003-2005 workers' compensation reforms, which capped attorney fees and streamlined claims, reducing rates from the highest to among the lowest in the U.S. Florida’s rates have dropped for the eighth consecutive year.

“The biggest issue was litigation,” explained Shebel, on the reason for high workers’ comp insurance rates. “Plaintiff attorneys had free rein to convince injured workers to sue their employers, often leading to drawn-out cases that weren’t necessarily in the workers’ best interest. There were cases where legal fees ended up costing more than the actual medical treatment and benefits for the injured worker.”

Shebel said that very same incentive to sue contributed to Florida having the highest property insurance rates in the country between 2017 and 2023. By 2021, Florida had 8% of all homeowners’ claims in the U.S., yet 76% of all homeowners’ claims lawsuits, according to the Florida Office of Insurance Regulation. Likewise, a 2021 report titled Florida’s P&C Insurance Market is Spiraling Toward Collapse revealed that “Of the $15 billion spent on litigated claims since 2015, only 8% was paid to policyholders. Plaintiff attorneys got 71% with the remaining 21% spent by insurance companies on defense attorneys.”

Shebel said Florida’s property insurance reforms took a lesson from its workers’ compensation insurance reforms 20 years earlier.

“Our strategy in workers’ comp was to address the root cause, plaintiff attorney involvement. The main provisions included capping attorney fees, streamlining the claims process, and implementing stricter guidelines to prevent unnecessary lawsuits. This not only reduced legal costs but also ensured that injured workers got the benefits they needed faster, without the delays that litigation often caused,” Shebel said. All.... (For full Show Notes, visit https://lisamillerassociates.com/episode-57-floridas-property-insurance-reforms-lessons-learned-from-workers-comp/)

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Episode 56: Episode 56 – Florida Property Insurance: Facts vs. Fear

Episode 56

Monday, March 10, 2025 • Duration 32:18

A sensational newspaper article alleging bad deeds by Florida insurance companies is prompting the Florida House of Representatives to look into the relationship between companies and their Managing General Agents (MGAs) and affiliated companies. The Tampa Bay Times reported the companies diverted billions of dollars to affiliates while claiming to lose money from hurricanes, based on the newspaper’s reading of a regulator’s draft report.

Former Florida Deputy Insurance Commissioner Lisa Miller reveals the inadequacies of the article and its misleading and incomplete portrayal of the market and regulation. She’s joined by a veteran Florida insurance agent who explains how MGAs and affiliates function, the financial dynamics of the insurance market, and the consumer safeguards built into the system.

Show Notes (For full Show Notes, visit https://lisamillerassociates.com/episode-56-florida-property-insurance-facts-vs-fear/ )

Allen McGinniss is a licensed Florida insurance agent and the principal of the McGinniss Himmel Insurance Agency, based in Tallahassee, Florida. He began his insurance career 20 years ago as a State Farm agent before transitioning to an independent agent and co-founding his agency in 2015. He explained what Managing General Agents (MGAs) are and the crucial role in the insurance industry by performing essential administrative tasks for insurance companies. These tasks include:

Underwriting: Assessing and evaluating risks to determine appropriate coverage and premiums.
Claims Management: Handling the process of claims from filing to settlement.
Policy Issuance: Managing the issuance and renewal of insurance policies.

Why Are MGAs Important?
MGAs help streamline operations by providing specialized knowledge and services that insurance companies may not handle internally. McGinniss said they can either operate within an insurance company or function independently. This flexibility allows insurance companies to:

Episode 55: Episode 55 – Litigation Data Standard

Episode 55

Monday, January 6, 2025 • Duration 27:24

One of the elements credited in the evolving success of Florida’s recent property insurance reforms is data collection and reporting. Property insurance companies are required to provide regulators with specific data on litigated claims. The number of lawsuits decreased significantly in 2024 as a result and with it, upward pressure on homeowners insurance rates.

Now there’s a push to implement a litigation data standard nationwide. Former Florida Deputy Insurance Commissioner Lisa Miller sits down with CaseGlide CEO Wesley Todd who is behind the move, citing increasing nuclear verdicts and new challenges in other lines impacting insurance availability and affordability.

Show Notes

The podcast delves into the transformative changes in Florida's homeowners insurance litigation landscape, driven by legislative reforms and the critical role of data transparency. Wesley Todd said he formed Tampa-based CaseGlide in 2013 to bring greater transparency to insurance litigation through data analytics and “level the scales of justice. But what was missing was the ability to see what was happening, the ability to do something about it.” More than ten years later, he is continuing to emphasize the importance of data transparency in understanding litigation trends and improving the insurance industry's efficiency.

Todd told host Miller that the insurance industry today faces “an inflection point.” Nuclear verdicts, social inflation, and judicial activism have driven unprecedented litigation costs, destabilizing insurance companies’ ability to fulfill their fiduciary obligations. Meanwhile, plaintiff attorneys have transformed their practices with analytics, funding, and transparency, positioning themselves to maximize litigation outcomes “at the expense of insurers,” he said.

"I'm really sort of just giving the industry a heads-up that this is where we're headed if we're lucky, right? I mean otherwise it could be too late. It could be that insurance becomes unaffordable and unavailable in major lines like casualty, professional liability, just like we see in commercial auto, just like we saw temporarily in Florida," Todd said.

Episode 54: Episode 54 – The Truth Behind the 50% Claims Denial

Episode 54

Monday, December 9, 2024 • Duration 32:12

Amid accusations that Florida’s property insurance companies, including state-backed Citizens Insurance, are deliberately paying only half their claims and “in a state of collapse,” comes new insight and fresh data that debunk the charges. The man behind the allegations is Martin Weiss of Weiss Ratings, who’s now the subject of an investigation by state insurance regulators.

Former Florida Deputy Insurance Commissioner Lisa Miller shares the new push-back from Citizens’ President & CEO on these accusations and sits down with the head of a large private insurance company who shares new data showing why these charges are inaccurate and unfair in what is a tightly-regulated marketplace.

Show Notes (For full Show Notes, visit https://lisamillerassociates.com/episode-54-the-truth-behind-the-50-claims-denial/
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The news stories emerged mere weeks after two devastating hurricanes – Helene and Milton – struck Florida, creating $5.3 billion in estimated insured losses in Florida as of late November 2024. Host Miller dives deep into the controversies and complexities surrounding the state-created Citizens Property Insurance Corporation and the broader Florida property insurance market on its claims handling and claims payment rates.

"The innuendo that's going around in the media space is that there is a suspicion that Citizens is trying to cheat its customers, and now forces are trying to extend that innuendo to Florida's private property insurance market companies,” said Miller. “In my opinion, that's just plain dishonest and unfair."

The program features soundbites from Weiss, Citizens Property Insurance President & CEO Tim Cerio, and a studio interview with Locke Burt, CEO and Chairman of Security First Insurance Company. Burt served in the Florida Senate for 12 years, where he helped write the laws that created Citizens and the Florida Hurricane Catastrophe Fund.

Weiss, in various November media reports, said that he’d reviewed Citizens Property Insurance 2023 annual financial statement and concluded that Citizens didn’t pay 50.4% of its 2023 claims. He said that was worse than any private insurance company’s no-pay rate. Weiss declined an invitation to appear on the podcast.

Episode 53: Episode 53 – Fortified Homes

Episode 53

Sunday, October 27, 2024 • Duration 40:23

Why were some homes in Hurricanes Helene and Milton heavily damaged while others sustained little or no damage? Much of the answer lies with the building materials and techniques used in their construction.

Former Florida Deputy Insurance Commissioner Lisa Miller talks with a building science researcher, a building products manufacturer, and a developer whose homes survived unscathed from the hurricanes about how resilient construction can save money and insurance costs for both new and existing homes.

Show Notes (For full Show Notes, visit https://lisamillerassociates.com/episode-53-fortified-homes/)

Host Lisa Miller opened the discussion by highlighting the devastation caused by recent Hurricanes Helene and Milton, particularly in Florida. She emphasized the urgent need for homeowners to prepare their properties to withstand such disasters. “Everywhere I go in Florida, I see homes built with plywood and two-by-fours, and I affectionately say that these production homes are built with sticks. I don’t see how they withstand 150 mph winds,” said Miller, who is a disaster insurance and recovery expert. The focus of the episode is on using innovative building products and techniques to enhance the resilience of homes.

Fred Malik, Managing Director of the Fortified Program at the Insurance Institute for Business and Home Safety (IBHS), shared his expertise on building techniques and materials designed to minimize damage from natural disasters. He stressed the importance of rigorous building standards and inspections, noting that "you get what you inspect, not what you expect." Malik explained that homes built to the Fortified standard undergo thorough third-party inspections, ensuring that critical details are not overlooked. This certification process provides consumers with a way to differentiate between homes that may appear similar but have vastly different levels of resilience against severe weather.

Marshall Gobuty, Managing Director at Pearl Homes Developments, shares his firsthand experience with building resilient homes. He discusses his development, Hunter's Point in Cortez, Florida, which successfully withstood Hurricane Milton without any damage. Gobuty attributes this success to his innovative building practices, which include using a combination of block and poured concrete for foundations, as well as advanced insulation techniques that enhance the structural integrity of the homes.

Episode 52: Episode 52 – Agent Roundtable

Episode 52

Friday, August 30, 2024 • Duration 33:33

What’s going on with property insurance in Florida? Specifically rates, coverage, condominiums, automobile insurance, telematics, flood insurance, and the reinsurance costs that carriers pass along to consumers.

Former Florida Deputy Insurance Commissioner Lisa Miller gets to the heart of the issues with three experienced insurance agents in South, Central, and North Florida who share their insights and suggestions on improving Florida’s challenging property insurance market.

Show Notes

Host Lisa Miller and guests discussed the high premiums affecting homeowners and auto insurance, driven by catastrophic weather, inflation, litigation, and reinsurance costs. Positive trends such as rate decreases and more flexible coverage options are highlighted. The conversation also covered the critical need for flood insurance and the role of the news media in educating the public about insurance complexities and how agents can help the media do so. The episode underscores the importance of transparency and proactive communication in the industry.

Miller’s guests each brought unique perspectives from different regions of Florida:

Jay Wolfberg, President of We Insure, headquartered in Sunrise. Wolfberg has over a decade of experience in commercial and residential property insurance. He discusses positive trends in the market, including rate decreases and more creative coverage options.
Anna Regina Myrrha, Agency Principal and Broker at American Insurance Pointe (AIP) in Orlando. Myrrha shares insights on the stabilization of rates and the importance of adapting coverage to meet clients' needs.
Paul Lalonde, President of Insurance Wagon, a Jacksonville insurance agency. Lalonde provides a perspective on the homeowners as well as the commercial insurance market and the challenges posed by recent legislation affecting condominium insurance.

Overview of the Florida Insurance Market

Host Miller highlighted the current state of the Florida insurance market, where premiums for automobile, homeowners, and commercial insurance are at an all-time high. She identified four main factors driving these rates:

Episode 51: Episode 51 – Florida’s Expanding Flood Zones

Episode 51

Tuesday, July 30, 2024 • Duration 33:18

High-risk flood zones are expanding this year along significant stretches of Florida’s coastline. In Broward County, nearly 90,000 properties have been moved into a FEMA flood zone. But 80,000 of them were in such a zone prior to ten years ago, when FEMA moved them out – only to add them back in this year. Many will now have to purchase flood insurance.

Former Florida Deputy Insurance Commissioner Lisa Miller talks with the county floodplain manager for an explanation, the reporter who broke the story, and another reporter from Palm Beach County, which is fighting FEMA’s efforts to expand flood zones.

Show Notes

FEMA calls these high-risk flood zones Special Flood Hazard Areas (SFHA). They are designated on a FEMA Flood Insurance Rate Map as zones that begin with the letter “A” or the letter “V” for those living along the coast, subject to additional threat of storm surge. Properties in these zones supposedly have a 1% probability of flooding each year, or about a one-in-four chance every 25-30 years. Some refer to this as the 1-in-100-year flood probability.

FEMA’s 2024 updated maps have moved nearly 90,000 (88,913) properties in Broward County, Florida into a high-risk flood zone. But almost 80,000 (79,689) were in that zone prior to FEMA’s 2014 map update, then removed, and now 10 years later are back in a flood zone. “How did this happen and what’s the science behind it?” asked host Miller.

Carlos Adorisio, Floodplain Manager for the unincorporated area of Broward County, explained that FEMA flood maps are based on studies of two factors: rainfall and coastal storm surge. Maps from the 1980’s and 1990’s reflected most of the county was high-risk. “In 2014, FEMA updated the maps, but they only updated the portion for the rainfall risk and not for the storm surge. There was a lot of development and better modeling and a lot of areas were removed from the 100-year floodplain,” he explained. In its 2024 maps, FEMA updated only the coastal storm surge risk. “There’s been more development, updated storm data, and better computer modeling techniques and mapping,” since the last storm surge studies done in the 1980’s, said Adorisio, who is a Professional Engineer and a Certified Floodplain Manager.

Episode 50: Episode 50 – Dollar Sale on Flood Damage

Episode 50

Wednesday, June 19, 2024 • Duration 29:34

A new working paper from the Congressional Budget Office estimates that for every dollar spent to elevate or buy-out a flooded home, $2.69 would be saved in future costs over the next 30 years. Of the 1.3 million projects the paper identifies, roughly 138,000 would see a greater savings of $6 dollars. Total savings would amount to $519 billion in future damage if governments and homeowners together would spend $193 billion today.

Former Florida Deputy Insurance Commissioner Lisa Miller sat down with one of the paper’s co-authors and the head of a national home floodproofing solutions company to discuss the government’s current efforts – and what’s lacking – to avoid costly future flood damage across the nation.

Show Notes

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) is the research arm of the U.S. Congress, tasked with providing nonpartisan analysis for lawmakers to consider when making policy. Its May 2024 working paper, Flood Damage Avoided by Potential Spending on Property-Level Adaptations found:

There are opportunities for adaptation for approximately 1.3 million projects nationwide (each adapting a single property of one to four units) where the expected avoided damage exceeds project costs primarily from elevating the home above flood stage or a buyout of the property for later destruction.
The total cost of completing these projects would be $193 billion, preventing $519 billion of expected damage over 30 years.
On average, each dollar spent on these projects would avoid $2.69 of expected damage.
About 138,000 projects would result in expected avoided damage over six times the cost of the project.
Outcomes vary based on area income and geography.

“We started looking into federal spending on adaptation to flood risk and we found that there's a big literature out there, but it can be really difficult to compare across studies, and apply one context to another,” explained paper co-author Evan Herrnstadt. “So we would need a scalable and flexible approach and found it was feasible for us to use the National Structure Inventory from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and flood modeling from the First Street Foundation and combine that with some other work to estimate avoided damage from property level interventions like buyouts and elevations,” said Herrnstadt, who is a CBO economist. The national framework that CBO developed used inland and coastal residential properties that contain 1 to 4 housing units.

Episode 49: Episode 49 – When Insurers Exit

Episode 49

Monday, April 22, 2024 • Duration 23:19

A new report claims that Florida's property insurance market is full of “low quality insurers,” especially those Florida-based companies that write the bulk of the 7.5 million homeowners and condo insurance policies. It casts aspersions on Demotech, the rating agency that reviews their financial stability.

Former Florida Deputy Insurance Commissioner Lisa Miller sat down with Demotech President Joe Petrelli to get the other side of the story that the report didn't. She also learned that it wasn't low capital and surplus that led to seven company insolvencies, as the report claims, but instead targeted technology-enabled claim instigation.

Show Notes (For full Show Notes, visit https://lisamillerassociates.com/episode-49-when-insurers-exit/)

The report, When Insurers Exit: Climate Losses, Fragile Insurers, and Mortgage Markets was written by researchers at Columbia University, Harvard University, and the Federal Reserve Board and published online prior to being peer reviewed. The report’s abstract describes it as a study of how homeowners insurance markets respond to growing climate losses and how this impacts the home mortgage markets.

“Using Florida as a case study, we show that traditional insurers are exiting high risk areas, and new lower quality insurers are entering and filling the gap. These new insurers service the riskiest areas, are less diversified, hold less capital, and 20 percent of them become insolvent. We trace their growth to a lax insurance regulatory environment. Yet, despite their low quality, these insurers secure high financial stability ratings, not from traditional rating agencies, but from emerging rating agencies.”

The report specifically targets rating agency Demotech, which provides Financial Stability Ratings (FSR) for most of the 50 or so Florida-based property insurance companies, including six of the recent eight carriers to enter the market. The report claims Demotech’s ratings “are high enough to meet the minimum rating requirements” of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which back many home mortgages, but that most of those insurance companies wouldn’t meet government requirements if rated by AM Best, suggesting the companies are financially weak.

Episode 48: Episode 48 – 2024 Legislative Roundup

Episode 48

Tuesday, March 12, 2024 • Duration 37:54

How will the insurance bills that passed in the recently completed 2024 Florida legislative session compliment past marketplace reforms? Is a property insurance market marred by carrier insolvencies in recent years and ongoing double-digit rate increases starting to stabilize?

Former Florida Deputy Insurance Commissioner Lisa Miller talks with two legislators about the new laws expected to impact Florida’s property insurance and real estate markets, reinsurance prices, condominium affordability, and their joint belief in bipartisanship for finding workable policy solutions.

Show Notes

Florida State Representative Tom Fabricio (R-Miami Lakes) sits on the House Insurance & Banking Subcommittee and Chairs the House Ethics, Elections & Open Government Subcommittee. He is a former insurance defense attorney whose practice now focuses on commercial and real estate litigation, including real estate transactions.

Florida State Senator Nick DiCeglie (R-St. Petersburg) is Vice Chair of the Senate Banking and Insurance Committee, Chair of the Senate Transportation Committee, and a former Chair of the House Insurance & Banking Subcommittee. He is President and CEO of Hope Villages of America, a Tampa Bay area nonprofit organization addressing hunger, homelessness, and domestic violence.

Both lawmakers discussed their motivation for entering the Florida Legislature and their vision for Florida’s homeowners insurance marketplace and by extension, the state economy. Topics included the admitted insurance market (those companies whose rates and policy forms are approved by state regulators) and the surplus lines companies (those whose rates and forms are largely unregulated, and who often insure risks admitted companies don’t), along with reinsurance companies, who provide catastrophe insurance for insurance companies. Among the bills and issues discussed on the podcast with host Lisa Miller:

HB 1503 authorizes surplus lines insurance companies to take out policies (“takeouts”) from the legislatively-created and state-backed Citizens Property Insurance Corporation’s non-homesteaded residential properties, such as second homes, among other risks. “I think surplus lines are important (for) it allows other free market competition,” said Rep. Fabricio. “Because ultimately, with Citizens having a population of over 1.2 million to close to 1.3 million policies, we need to depopulate Citizens. We need to bring Citizens down to a number under a million policies, where Citizens will be truly our carrier of last resort,” he said.

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