The Five Year Plan – Details, episodes & analysis

Anna thought she did everything right. Built the resume. Followed a path. Checked all the boxes. And yet, two years ago, she felt completely lost and confused with big question marks about her career. Did she pick the wrong path? Is it too late to start over? What happens when the life you worked so hard to build doesn't feel like yours anymore? 

In this first episode of The Five Year Plan, Anna shares the story behind starting this show, what it's all about, and what you can expect. From interviewing guests who have had crazy career pivots, to normalizing the uncertainty that so many people feel in their 20s and 30s, she aims to debunk the myth of having a perfect "five year plan." 

Because maybe the best "five year plans"... are the ones that don't go according to plan at all. 

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Work hard in school. Get good grades. Land a good job. As long as you do those  things, you'll set yourself up to live your happiest life.... Right? 

Well, Anna followed that formula to a tee: got good grades, went to the best law school in the country, and landed her dream job. But there she was, sitting in the floor of her bedroom at 6:00 am on a Tuesday morning, sobbing about how debilitatingly inadequate she felt. How the hell did THIS happen? 

Join Anna today as she explores why the first few years of any career is so difficult. She talks about the ways that school conditions us to think in ways that are not representative of real life and why the "A+ students" are the ones who sometimes struggle the most in the real world. 

The Article: When The Gold Stars Stop Working: Why A+ Students Struggle in the Real World 

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This piece of advice is one that I guarantee we've all heard before. But when I tried following it, here's what happened: 

1. I developed a romanticized view of what my career should be 
2. I had unrealistic expectations of what work is supposed to feel like that normal frustrations started to feel like a sign that I was on the wrong path 
3. I lost my sense of self-identity 

Can you guess what this piece of advice is? 

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He's cooked for Taylor Swift. Jennifer Lopez. And almost became a neuroscientist? 

In this episode, Anna sits down with Nathan Ng - sous chef at TOCA inside the Ritz Carlton Toronto - who walked away from the "perfect" academic path as a neuroscience student at the University of Toronto to chase something far less certain... and at times, more brutal. 

This is less of a polished success story and more about what it actually looks like to choose a different life. 

Join them as they get into: 

• What it really takes to drop out of the best university in the country at the age of 18 when everyone expects you to stay 
• The weight of immigrant expectations and what happens when you don't follow them 
• The uncomfortable truth about the commodification of Chinese cuisine 
• Being an Asian chef in elite, European-dominated kitchens
• The "open secret" of substance abuse in the hospitality industry

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Burnout is not a character flaw. So why does it feel like one? 

In this episode, Anna talks about the part of burnout that we often don't address —the quiet, creeping fear that you’re the problem. That you’re not resilient enough. That you're not cut out for the life you worked so hard to build. 

Join Anna as she reflects on: 

• Why burnout feels like a personal failure (even when it’s not)
• The unspoken pressure to “handle it” in high-achieving careers
• How your childhood quietly set you up for this
• The difference between being overwhelmed and being fundamentally misaligned
• And how to start letting go of the shame of burnout without blowing up your entire life

If you’ve ever felt like a failure for "not being able to handle" the life you chose, this episode is for you. 

"The Boiling Frog Syndrome: A Metaphor for Burnout" Article: https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/lessons-from-a-burnt-out-psychologist/202406/the-boiling-frog-syndrome-a-metaphor-for-burnout 

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