Columbus, Hillary, Magellan...Goodhart. Though the latter may not appear in textbooks, when it comes to exploratory fly fishing, he is every bit the risk-taker as the other names on the list. Hammer (and rod) in hand, Dave Goodhart helped construct the first outposts on the legendary Ponoi in Russia, the taimen rivers in Mongolia, and the steelhead and trout streams of Kamchatka. Throughout his long guiding career, including 20+ years in Alaska, he cheated death on numerous occasions and thankfully for us, lived to tell the tales! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The hour was late in a one-star motel room in Idaho. Huddled around a wobbly table, the three of us stared into our half-empty beers. Our buddy Mike G., who had spent many years guiding and boating the wild rivers of the American Southwest, was prompted to share...“have you guys ever heard the legend of La Llorona”? This is one of the most terrifying ghost stories we have ever heard on our fly fishing podcast. Listeners beware. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Battered, bruised, and begging for more, Lauren returns from her first roosterfishing adventure in Baja! The stoke level is atmospheric as she shares insight into the pre-trip preparations that made all the difference in organizing and executing a successful saltwater adventure with her friends. No Lauren story is complete without a bad accent and we have one of those for you too! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Brady, Jordan, Woods...Lieverst? While the latter may not have a shoe deal, in the world of competitive fly fishing, Jason Lieverst has reached the apex of his game, serving as captain of two international teams during his prestigious career. Jason shares insight into the realm of "Czech" nymphing (which, we'll find out, may have originated in a different European nation.) As the co-proprietor of Master Nymph (rods), Nymphmaster (fly tying materials) and Master Nymph Academy, Lieverst is dedicated to fine-tuning the art of Euro-nymphing and sharing his deep knowledge with fellow anglers. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tucked away in a sleepy town near Glacier National Park is one of the industry's leading distributors of commercially tied fly patterns, Montana Fly Company. Fly shops and anglers the world over have come to rely on MFC's ingenuity, creativity, consistency, and quality. National Sales Manager, Jake Chutz, is an integral part of the operation and like most MFC employees, got his start as a fishing guide. Jake shares his trials and tribulations from Montana to Tierra Del Fuego, like the time he nearly knocked himself unconscious with an errant cast. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Though it is often referred to as the "Quiet Sport", flyfishing tends to attract athletes and competitors. Canadian guide, Paula Shearer, is a former hockey player and skeleton racer who has dedicated herself to angling, and become one of the most sought-after guides in Alberta and a member of Team Rio. Paula shares her close calls with the apex predators of the Northern Rockies, both terrestrial and aquatic, and the time she received frightening news from the real world while on a saltwater fishing adventure in Cuba. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On a busman's holiday, Montana Outfitter and Avalanche Specialist, Travis Craft, ventured to the Arctic Circle in pursuit of the "Tarpon of the North". Relying on what little river beta he and his cronies could dig up, the crew navigated unfamiliar waters and lived to tell the tales of monster sheefish, mouse-eating grayling, and a bush pilot who wouldn't say boo. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What do Kenny G, Motley Crue, Devo, and a 1000 days of angling have in common? Answer....Ron Kaye! The dirt on this former music agent is a newfound infatuation with life-on-the-fly. Ron's adventures took him from Argentina to Tasmania in his quest to fish for a thousand days, a goal that was nearly cut short when "Mr. K" had a close shave with a lighting bolt on a Central Oregon lake. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"To fish or not to fish? That is the question weighing heavily on the mind of Zack Williams, magazine editor of Backcountry Journal and Swing the Fly. With so few fish in the river systems of the Pacific Northwest, Zack ponders the personal decision to step away from the steelhead he loves and recounts the wanderings of a fly fishing vagabond from Patagonia to the Olympic Peninsula." --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the heels of a fishing excursion to Mexico, Michael Reid received an invite that no self-respecting guy with an angling problem could refuse. His very understanding wife obliged, and Michael hustled to the Outer Banks in pursuit of a bluefin tuna blitz, led by a captain known simply as "Creature". What transpired would reset the record book for tuna on the fly and heave an otherwise taciturn fisherman into the spotlight.  --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Spearfish, South Dakota was the site of a fly fishing kidnapping-mystery. On an idyllic afternoon in the nearby Black Hills, philanthropic fly angler, Marcus Bevier, found himself in the crosshairs of what turned out to be a case of mistaken stocking foot identity. Marcus was just out trying to hassle a few trout in his home waters when the day turned into the fly fishing equivalent of the Shawshank Redemption. Well, that may be a bit of an exaggeration…. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Fly fishing on wild, free-flowing rivers is full of risk, peril, and unpredictable outcomes, and it's only a matter of time until a guide has a close call. For 20 years, outfitter Brooks Jessen, of TroutZoola Outfitters, has been navigating the rivers of western Montana and has experienced his fair share of white- knucklers...like the time he sunk his drift boat on a guide trip --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In our premiere, we catch Justin Karnopp, owner of CD Fishing USA, tying a creepy pike fly. Justin recounts a couple of harrowing guide-tales from the Blackfoot and Deschutes rivers. Tune in and remember to go fishing! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We all know the old adage "If you want to get to know a guy, sit down over a Kinky Muddler"...we did just that with Tom Latourelle of Bespoke Bugs. A former custom furniture maker, Latourelle's background as a craftsman is evident in the design, shape, and movement of the flies that he creates for his clients. Tom was kind enough to invite us over to his house for a one-on-one glue sniffing session as he spins a technical baitfish patterns for Baja. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

He's strolled down the street with the Fonz, kicked it with Jimmy Buffett, and represented many of the top brands in the fly fishing industry, but for Travis Morris, nothing beats the time he hooked and landed a 29-pound carp! Despite the fact that he is surrounded by hallowed trout water in his hometown of Bozeman, Montana, Travis belongs to the growing legion of anglers that consider  carp as freshwater fly fishing's premiere quarry --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Renowned captain, Paul Dixon, has divided his distinguished, 30-year guide career between the striper flats of Montauk and the bonefish, permit, and tarpon waters of the Florida Keys. Paul is one of the most sought-after guides in these hallowed waters and is being recognized for his innovations and conservation work as the recipient of this year's Isaac Walton Award from the American Museum of Fly Fishing. Paul has acquired a long list of clients who have become lifelong friends, and the shenanigans that have occurred are the stuff of legend. We are lucky enough to have Paul sit in with us and share past exploits, like the time a client named "2 Dogs" jumped ship in his birthday suit, and the one when a famous musician invited them to his dock for a shore lunch. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Whether you're a fly angler or not, you've likely seen the work of Chris Santella in bookstores, gift shops, or in the waiting room.  As the author of the "Fifty Places Before You Die" series, Chris found a niche in the highly competitive and extremely difficult world of freelance writing, providing Chris with the means to pen countless fly fishing stories and pursue his passion for music along with his band, "Catch and Release". Most importantly, there is time for family and fishing. Thoughts of steelhead are never far from Santella's mind, and the imperiled state of anadromous fish in his home waters of the Pacific Northwest weigh heavily. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tom Brady is praised for his longevity and legacy, but what about Jeff Perin? With three decades as a fly shop owner, guide, and globe-trekking angler, Jeff has stood the test of time as the proprietor of The Fly Fisher's Place, an institution in the charming mountain town of Sisters, Oregon. Sure, he may not have all of the championship rings, but he has more special use outfitting permits than the GOAT, and he once ran the length of a river road in his waders while trying to catch a runaway boat. Could Tom do that? --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When it's too damn cold and windy for the camp stove to work, who settles for a dinner of raw fish? A musky angler, that's who. The hardy souls who pursue the "Fish of 10,000 Casts" are certainly cut from a different cloth, and author, instructor, and photographer, Rick Kustich, is no exception. Rick shares insight and experiences from his 40-plus years of pursuing musky and Great Lakes steelhead. https://rickkustich.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The allure of a feeding frenzy can be too much for an angler to take, and many of us have done it...aimed a reach-cast at the forbidden fruit. For Henry Cowen, the decision to bend the rules drew a prompt response from authorities in a menacing gunboat who had little sense of humor...or they weren't anglers. Guide, fly tyer and author of the recently released "Flyfishing for Freshwater Striped Bass", Henry shares this and other exploits accrued from a lifetime of fly fishing shenanigans. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Meet Hogan Brown, the fly fishing equivalent of MacGyver who simply must never sleep. Despite a stack of irons in the fire centered around teaching, creative fly tying, guiding and music, this kind-hearted, hard working father is one of the founders of Cast Hope, a non-profit organization devoted to providing the gift of fly fishing and the outdoors to kids and their mentors. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Does this sound like a blurb on a paperback? "Promising Wall Street broker, Eddie O', shirks the champagne and caviar lifestyle and moves to Montana to pursue his dream of becoming a ski bum and fishing guide." This is the real-life story of Eddie Olwell, owner of Fishs Eddy O Outfitters, who, to the chagrin of his parents, found the allure of dry fly fishing and deep powder more magnetic than the glitz and glamour of The Big Apple. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Between an ordeal and an adventure, there's a positive attitude and a fella/ by the handle of McCoy. Dave has a fly shop in Seattle and an outfitting crew, collectively called, Emerald Water Anglers. An ex-ski racer, McCoy still has a knit or two unwoven and we're very grateful that a talented photographer and complete class-act took the time to share his stories with us. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are fortunate to have our base of operations in Missoula, where authors, fly fishing guides, poets, and professors are as common as evening caddis events, or, in the case of Chris Dombrowski, all of these vocations rolled into one personality. Despite publishing several books and countless magazine articles, Chris still retains a few stories yet-untold from a life spent exploring watery realms throughout Michigan, Montana, and the Bahamas. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the premier of the TFR Video Series, we drop the kids at school, skip work, shirk household chores and set course for a local trout stream in hopes of extending the summer hopper season just one more day! Watch this on thefebruaryroom.com or subscribe to our YOUTUBE channel. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Solo fishing trips are inherently unpredictable and Bryan Huskey has a knack for putting himself in predicaments in wild places. Throughout a lifetime spent exploring the west on hunting and fishing excursions, Bryan has encountered plenty of interesting characters and developed a knack for storytelling across multiple media platforms. A gifted photographer, videographer and passionate conservationist. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

While navigating the shark-infested waters of mental health, psychologist and fly angler, Nathaan Demers, and his team created a unique platform, "Man Therapy", aimed at providing a resource for men experiencing depression, anxiety, and anger at a critical time in our society. Befitting a man who has spearfished in the literal shark-infested waters of Fiji.  https://mantherapy.org/ --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

He's starred on the both the big and little screens in many fly fishing productions, but what would Frank Smethurst do when his fishing problem led to a near-death experience aboard a decrepit boat? He decided to make some major changes to his life, toning back his travel significantly and spending more time at home with his wife and daughter. Then, in a twist of irony,  he was enlisted to work on another production. The premise? Traveling around the country in a decrepit boat with the crew from Meateater. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

At a fishing lodge, many factors are in Mother Nature's hands. Weather and water conditions are subject to fluctuations, and there's certainly no guarantee that the fish will cooperate, so a successful lodge focuses on that which it can control, namely, the food! Montana Chef PJ Burgess has made a career out of catering to hungry anglers and shares some of her adventures and creative recipes just in time for the biggest meals of the season.  --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"A fisherman in a monkey suit walks into a bar"... This isn't the lead-up to a punch line, but an actual retelling of events from our guest, Michael Gibson. A former fly fishing guide and outdoor television producer, Michael is the Idaho Field Coordinator for Trout Unlimited and a champion for coldwater fisheries and public access. Plus, he's a helluva' good story teller, but may need to find some new fishing buddies.... --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the spirit of the spooky season, we track down an eccentric angler who shares hair-raising encounters from the woods and waters of the Wolverine State. Hang onto your ciders as James Lady waxes on his freaky experiences, including recordings of unexplainable vocalizations and video/photo evidence of strange beings...including another Michigan native, Kid Rock! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In baseball, a "5 Tool Athlete" can hit, field, run, throw, and hit for power. Brian O'Keefe is the fly fishing version of a 5 Tool Athlete, he can fish, cast, run a boat, take amazing photos, and tell great fishing stories. Brian has made fly fishing his life's work, and used his skills with a rod and camera to traverse the globe and fill fly fishing magazines, books, and short films with his imagery and persona. We are thrilled to have him in the February Room and since laughter is the best medicine, prepare for a heavy dose from a true 5 Tool Athlete! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If fly fishing is his mistress, Andrew Weiner's true love is books. This California-based angler makes his living selling books and saw a niche for a children's fable centered around fly fishing. Weiner paired with highly talented illustrator, April Chu, and the end result was "Down by the River", a charming story that follows three generations of a family out on a fly fishing adventure.  Andrew has a few of his own family fishing stories to share, including the time he and his dad encountered some beastly redfish!  --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mental health is one of the biggest issues facing our country, and as another pandemic grabs headlines, the suicide rate continues to climb. Men are particularly at risk for mental health issues and this week's guest, Jennings Hester, has made it his mission to offer support. A former SEC football player turned fly angler and tyer, Jennings and his organization, Fighting the Good Fight, are taking a unique approach to contributing to men's well-being...and the guy also has some pretty fantastic fishing stories.  https://www.fishingthegoodfight.com/ Call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1–800–273–TALK (8255) if a loved one expresses suicidal thoughts. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Never underestimate the resourcefulness of a hungry young angler with an idea! Meet Matt Devlin, a former fishing guide turned filmmaker. When Matt and his buddy first conceived the notion of producing a fishing film on a shoestring budget, they circumvented the expense of purchasing a camera buy "renting" one from a box store with a 10-day return policy. From these meager beginnings, a new career and a film tour were born! Tune in as Matt shares his personal odyssey through fly fishing to become the Founder and Director of the Montana Fishing Film Festival. https://www.mtfishingfilmfest.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our first "vessel of freedom" was a used aluminum Willie boat dad bought off a guy in 1984. She served our family, friends, and clients for 30 years on adventures throughout the PNW. Between the gunnels, we tallied a catalog of euphoric experiences that spawned into lasting memories. However, the story of our old drift boat would've never been told had things gone just a little more sideways on her early voyages. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Fly anglers can disagree on many things; the right pattern, the best rod, the most perplexing quarry...but we can all find common ground in support of the men and women who serve, and have served, our country. This week we have the great pleasure of speaking with Blain Tomlinson, a lifelong fisherman and Board Member of Project Healing Waters Fly Fishing, an organization dedicated to the rehabilitation of military minds via fly tying, rod building, and simply spending time on the water. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Simply put, custom rod builder, Tom Ralston, is a good egg! On a teacher's salary, Tom provides hand-built fishing rods to kids, neighbors, cancer survivors and military veterans, often for free or for a fraction of what his fine craftsmanship is worth. Fueled by old school work ethic, Tom's company, Americatown Custom Rods, is dedicated to putting something unique and truly "custom" in the hands of anglers...all for the love of fishing! http://americatowncustomrods.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

These are trying times for Oregon's mighty Deschutes River. Multiple environmental factors threaten the river's native redband rainbows, steelhead, and salmon. Now more than ever, this watershed needs warriors to stand up and fight for her. Meet Elke Kirk, a First Nation's fly fishing guide who uses his platform to educate anglers on the importance of protecting and enhancing the river that has sustained his people since time immemorial. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

At just 7 years old, Jessica Haydahl trekked off into her backyard, disposable camera in hand, determined to capture the natural world around her. Many years later, her interest in photography would mesh with her intimate knowledge of ice hockey and launch a career as an NHL photographer. Born the daughter of a Norwegian fisherman, Jessica's love of angling spurred a highly successful transition into the highly competitive, and mostly male-dominated, world of fishing photography. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We've all been there. Rendezvoused well before dawn, assessed the situation, reconfigured at the jumping-off-point....but here's where the story diverges from the norm...the Law arrives and suddenly, you're party to a crime scene-enlisted to play the role of superhero. This is the story of Drake Perry, an angler who would prefer to mind his own business and explore the unusual waters of the Ohio River valley. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"How do we get these rods in angler's hands?" That was the question Marty asked, when, circa 1980, one of his fishing buddies began building rods out of a clandestine material designed for incognito aircraft. Not only was the SR-71 born, but the fishing world changed forever with the introduction of carbon fiber, aka, graphite, as the fundamental material in rod blanks. For our 20th episode, we have the great pleasure of speaking with Marty Johanson, founder of Composite Developments. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If you ever find yourself swimming at night in the shark-infested waters of South Africa, you might just bump into Juan Coetzee, returning from one of his solo missions for the elusive garrick. Known amongst the tight-knit fly fishing community surrounding Cape Town as "The Oracle", Juan possesses an unnatural "fishyness" and may just be hiding gills beneath that Irish beard. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On May 17th, 2020, Matt Churchman was breaking down a riverside camp with friends and family. Big brown trout were on his brain when he walked down by the river and encountered a different kind of big brown. The next few seconds would change the life of everyone involved. This is a story of survival, bravery, friendship, and inspiration that you don't want to miss! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

While on a DIY foray to Mexico for permit, via bicycle, George Hill stumbled into the right bar and found the right guy pouring drinks...a bartender with a boat and an eye for the whereabouts of these elusive fish. George Hill has an eye too, for seeing the intricacies of the natural world, and the elusive fish he loves to pursue, and expressing this with oil on canvas. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Austin, Texas is home to many talented, eclectic individuals and Alvin Dedeaux is no exception! Alvin wears many hats-husband, father, former frontman, fly fishing guide, brand ambassador, and innovative fly tyer who created a highly effective bass popper from a discarded flip flop. Enjoy the ride as Alvin guides us across his home state of Texas, throughout the West, and to the Seychelles...lets just hope he doesn't miss another boat ramp. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Brace yourself for inspiration!!! Meet Lydia and Lil D from Fly Girl Global, a worldwide network of young ladies united by their love of fly fishing. These angler-advocates advance the sport via international zoom meetings to tie flies, swap fishing stories, and organize efforts to clean up waterways across the globe. Thanks to Fly Girl Global, flyfishing’s future is so bright, we gotta’ wear shades! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How did you celebrate your last birthday? Did you try to catch an Alaskan salmon for each year that you've been on this earth? That's what Greg Munther did. If you live in the Northern Rockies and hunt and fish, you've likely heard of Munther, and we are very fortunate to have this revered traditional outdoorsman and conservationist in The February Room! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There are two kinds of fishing guides in this world-those who have lost their boat, and those who will. Meet a card-carrying member of the former club, Jon (Bon) Hazlett, a steelhead angler and world-renowned spey caster/instructor from Medford, Oregon. Jon has seen some ridiculous events transpire over his long career as a steelhead guide...the tug is the drug! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Perhaps this guy has spent too much time mountaineering in the thin air? We hear life on Antartica can mess with your head? Maybe double-digit trout in New Zealand still haunt him? Join us as we peel back the onion that is Brooks Montgomery, a name that is synonymous with the fly fishing industry, adventure-angling, and a relatively un-fishy town in Idaho that still considers him an outsider. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lauren-karnopp3/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices