The Cloudcast (@cloudcastpod) is the industry's #1 Cloud Computing podcast, and the place where Cloud meets AI. Co-hosts Aaron Delp (@aarondelp) & Brian Gracely (@bgracely) speak with technology and business leaders that are shaping the future of business. Topics will include Cloud Computing | AI | AGI | ChatGPT | Open Source | AWS | Azure | GCP | Platform Engineering | DevOps | Big Data | ML | Security | Kubernetes | AppDev | SaaS | PaaS .
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Brian Gracely (@bgracely) Aaron Delp (@aarondelp) and Brandon Whichard (@bwhichard, @SoftwareDefTalk) discuss the top stories in Cloud and AI from August 2025.
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SHOW NOTES:
THE UPS AND DOWNS OF AI - THE CONSTANT HYPE CYCLE
Healthy Competition [YES]
Consumer and Enterprise Markets [YES]
Market leader(s) [YES, sort of]
Well-Defined, profitable business model [NO]
Open, lower-cost alternative emerged [YES/NO]
Usage patterns emerging [YES/NO]
[ups] Constant high-profile VC, Sovereign wealth, hyperscaler funding of AI startups
The Modernization of FinOps
Wednesday, August 27, 2025 • Duration 30:25
Amit Kinha - Field CTO @DoITInt | FinOps Foundation Board Member discusses how the relationship between technology and financial accountability has evolved, and how mainstream FinOps is shifting IT focus around innovation.
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Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background and your involvement in FinOps.
Transitioning from the Cloud era to the AI era
Sunday, August 24, 2025 • Duration 26:07
As we begin to transition from the Cloud era to the AI era, what types of changes can we expect to see happen in the market, within our businesses, and for individuals?
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SHOW NOTES:
WHEN TWO ERAS OVERLAP - CLOUD AND AI
The early stages of a new era tends to be separate (cloud-native, AI-native), but eventually tends to build upon the previous era’s foundations
It usually takes a decade before an era stops being important or prioritized
It usually takes 3-5 years before best practices for new applications emerge
Finding new era talent is difficult (and expensive), but current era technology can be optimized (reduce costs, modernize)
We’re going to see “Shadow AI” and “Bi-Modal Cloud/AI”
The will be a lot of “X is Dead” during the first few years of the transition, until people (again) remember that nothing in IT dies - especially in the enterprise
Looking back on Industry Market Leaders
Thursday, August 21, 2025 • Duration 25:39
After a very long roadtrip, let’s explore the lessons we can learn from some of the greatest business models in tech and how or if they apply to the AI era companies.
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Haseeb Budhani (@haseebbudhani, CEO @rafaysystemsinc) discusses the evolution from traditional DevOps to platform engineering and what "Enterprise Ready" Kubernetes looks like in 2025. We explore AI workloads running on Kubernetes and how modern orchestration solutions can transform teams from bottlenecks into enablers. We also cover the security considerations for GPU-enabled AI workloads and balancing developer self-service capabilities with proper governance and control.
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Topic 1 - Welcome to the show, Haseeb. Give everyone a quick introduction.
Topic 2 - Let’s start by talking about the evolution of Kubernetes as a platform. You’ve said and we’ve talked about on this show for some time how Kubernetes is more of a platform to run platforms. We’ve also seen trends in the industry and shifts in what it means to be DevOps or Platform Engineering in recent years. You've positioned Rafay as a Kubernetes Operations Platform that's now evolved into a Cloud Automation Platform. How do you define the difference between Kubernetes management and true platform engineering?
Enterprise AI Platforms
Wednesday, August 13, 2025 • Duration 27:02
Shay Levi (@shaylevi2, CEO @UnframeAI) & Larissa Schneider (COO @UnframeAI) discuss the complexities of building an enterprise-grade AI platform. Topics include what an AI platform is, the advantages of adoption, and the efficiencies gained.
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Topic 1 - Shay & Larissa, welcome to the show! Give everyone a brief introduction and a little about your background.
Topic 2 - Today, we’re discussing AI Security and Enterprise Platforms. What are the problems or issues you see with AI development today?
Topic 3 - Is this where an AI platform comes into play? I’m seeing more and more about this term and wondering what it truly means to be a platform. What is your definition of a platform, and what are the advantages?
The beginning of Cloud 2.0 is here
Sunday, August 10, 2025 • Duration 19:59
Are we beginning to see the dawn of a 2nd phase of Cloud Computing, as AI begins to become a workload that impacts every aspect of the previous era of Cloud? Let’s explore…
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SHOW NOTES:
CLOUD 1.0 vs. CLOUD 2.0
Cloud 1.0: On-demand services, OSS innovation, Core Building Blocks, Affordable Infrastructure with declining costs, 1st and best customers, limited gov’t involvement, varied competition levels,
Cloud 2.0: AI is a now technology, GPU vs. CPU costs, vertical application stacks?, unknown economics, highly funded competition, unknown gov’t involvement, unknown investment into OSS, AI gravity vs. cloud gravity
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AI & Cloud Trends for July 2025
Wednesday, August 6, 2025 • Duration 42:13
Brian Gracely (@bgracely) Aaron Delp (@aarondelpt) and Brandon Whichard (@bwhichard, @SoftwareDefTalk) discuss the top stories in Cloud and AI from July 2025.
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The hardest thing for any growing company to do is manage the transition from hypergrowth to the dual tracks of growth and stability. AWS is entering their Hybrid phase, or the transition from Day 1 to Day 2. How will it go?
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Topic 2 - We’ve been through the early days of cloud, where we were told that cloud was cheaper, and then after COVID, everyone seemed to realize that cloud was actually more expensive. Where are we with FinOps and companies understanding how to think about cloud spending?
Topic 3 - You work with the FinOps Foundation. What types of roles do you see focused on FinOps, and how is that evolving as there is greater cloud cost visibility across an entire organization?
Topic 4 - How has the technology around FinOps evolved? How much is still manual? How much is piecing together different costs from different systems? And how much is evolving to have an AI component?
Topic 5 - How do the tools and platforms from DoIT help to make FinOps easier for companies? What are some of the key areas of focus, and some insights you’re hearing from the companies that you work with directly?
Topic 6 - If you had to give a CIO or CFO guidance on how to best think about FinOps, what are the top things you would focus on?
Topic 3 - What does “Enterprise Ready” Kubernetes look like in 2025?
Topic 4 - Let’s flip over to AI/ML and GPUs with Kubernetes for a bit. Many developers and data scientists aren’t aware of the underlying platform they run on. I saw a stat recently that about 95% of AI runs on Kubernetes, either on-prem or in the cloud. Despite this, Platform teams are often stuck doing manual GPU provisioning, which doesn't scale with AI adoption. How do modern GPU orchestration solutions change the platform team's role?
Topic 5 - With GPU workloads often handling sensitive data and AI models, security becomes even more critical. How should organizations approach security and compliance in their GPU-enabled Kubernetes operations?
Topic 6 - "Most developers don't want to write YAML or manage clusters — they just want to ship software." How do you balance giving developers the self-service capabilities they want while maintaining the control and governance that platform teams need?
Topic 4 - Shay, considering your background in APIs and API security, how does that knowledge transfer into this space?
Topic 5 - Larissa, with your background in operations, where do you see the inefficiencies in AI development and lifecycle management of the AI models and the datasets?
Topic 6 - Let’s talk about Unframe. Give everyone an overview. Is this a SaaS service? How and where does it fit into your typical AI development stack?
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