Explore every episode of the podcast The Edge of Work
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| Best Hits: Leadership and The AI Mindset with Conor Grennan | 30 Dec 2025 | 00:38:58 | |
Note: This is a replay of a previous popular episode Conor Grennan is the Dean of Students at NYU Stern and the Co-Founder and CEO of AI Mindset, an AI consulting firm. In this episode, Conor shares his insights on how artificial intelligence is reshaping the workplace, leadership, and talent development. With a unique perspective from both academia and the corporate world, he discusses why AI adoption is more about mindset than technical skill, the role of HR and talent leaders in AI transformation, and how leaders can navigate this shift. Links
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| The State of Work: Lessons from 2025 and What Comes Next | 22 Dec 2025 | 00:52:49 | |
Note: This episode is a recording of a live virtual webinar. As 2025 comes to a close, Al Dea is joined by Kyle Forrest (Principal, Deloitte Consulting), Ana Maria Sencovici (Chief Talent Officer, Royal Caribbean Group), and Brian Elliott (CEO, Work Forward) for a special end-of-year conversation on The Edge of Work. Together, they reflect on a year defined by uncertainty, AI-driven change, and growing tension in the workplace. Moving beyond hype, they explore what leaders got wrong, what’s beginning to shift, and why the future of work depends less on efficiency and more on redesigning work, rebuilding trust, and leading with clarity and hope in an AI-enabled world. Links
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| Priorities, Perspectives, and Possibilities: What’s Top of Mind for Talent Leaders in 2025 | 21 Oct 2025 | 00:32:06 | |
In this solo episode of The Edge of Work, Al Dea unpacks what’s top of mind for talent and learning leaders this fall. Drawing from more than 40 interviews across Fortune 1000 organizations, Al explores the biggest themes shaping the profession, from navigating constant change to managing “two timelines” of near-term needs and future AI-driven transformation. He highlights how leaders are adapting their mindsets, practices, and roles to stay relevant in a rapidly evolving world of work. Links
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| The State of Workplace Culture with Jessica Kriegel | 16 Apr 2024 | 00:34:02 | |
Dr. Jessica Kriegel is an author, speaker, and the Chief Scientist at CulturePartners. Through her research background, her work at CulturePartners and in speaking with many workplace experts on her podcast, Jessica has a keen understanding of workplace culture in what it is, and how it’s shifting in today’s world of work. During our conversation, Jessica spoke about what she’s seeing in trends in workplace culture, as well as the role of culture in remote, hybrid and in person settings. Jessica also spoke about some of the ways in which we can approach managing and collaboration across generations in the workplace, and how she sees the social contract of work evolving and shifting. Links:
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| Developing Better Managers With Ashley Herd | 09 Apr 2024 | 00:24:37 | |
Ashley Herd is the CEO and Founder of The Manager Method and a Co-Host of the HR Besties Podcast. A former lawyer turned HR leader, Ashley now runs a training company focused on developing effective managers and creating helpful content through multiple channels that is helpful toward managers in today’s workplace. During our conversation, Ashley spoke about her journey to founding The Manager Method, as well as some of her own management experiences that helped shaped her abilities to do this work. Ashley also shared some of what she observes are the common challenges we face in preparing managers to manage, the most common questions she gets in her DMs and her own thoughts on how we can better develop and grow managers to be effective in today’s workplace Links
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| Why Companies Should Invest in Career Development with Carina Cortez | 02 Apr 2024 | 00:33:00 | |
Carina Cortez is the Chief People Officer at Cornerstone OnDemand. Throughout her career as a People and HR leader, Carina has been an advocate and supporter of career development and mobility programs throughout her career. During our conversation, Carina spoke about what she’s seeing with how career development is changing and why it is a business imperative to invest in career development and talent mobility strategies today. Links:
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| Wrong Fit Right Fit with Andre’ Martin | 26 Mar 2024 | 00:40:39 | |
Andre’ Martin is the author of Wrong Fit Right Fit, Why How We Work Matters More Than Ever. As a former talent and learning Executive at companies like Nike and Google, Andre’ has spent a lot of time thinking about how to help employees unleash their talent and abilities within their roles to do their best work. During our conversation, Andre’ spoke about the state of the workplace today, and why he thinks that while companies want to hire great talent and everyone wants a great job, we sometimes miss the mark in matching people to the right roles. Andre’ also spoke about the importance of when searching or evaluating a potential opportunity, the importance of learning on how work gets done, and what companies can do to be more effective and transparent so they can hire the right people for fit for the right jobs. Links
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| The State of The Workplace with Rob Sadow | 19 Mar 2024 | 00:38:44 | |
Rob Sadow is the Co-Founder and CEO of Scoop Technologies, a software company that helps organizations use data and insights to build workplace strategies. With a vast array of data and insights, Rob and his team have a keen pulse on the state of the workplace, and the challenges and opportunities that come with it.
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| Live From Transform: Hebba Youssef, and HR in The New World of Work | 14 Mar 2024 | 00:13:18 | |
We're Live From Transform in Las Vegas! | |||
| Live From Transform: Culture at Hubspot in The New World of Work | 13 Mar 2024 | 00:09:45 | |
We're Live at the Transform Conference in Las Vegas! | |||
| Live From Transform: Mutual Mentorship with Katya Laviolette (CPO, 1Password) | 13 Mar 2024 | 00:11:18 | |
We're Live at the Transform Conference in Las Vegas! | |||
| Leading From The Middle: The Impact of The Middle Manager with Scott Mautz | 05 Mar 2024 | 00:38:53 | |
Scott Mautz is a keynote speaker, researcher and author of the book Leading From The Middle: A Playbook for Managers to Influence Up, Down, and Across the Organization. Drawing on his research on middle managers and his work as a keynote speaker, Scott makes the case for why middle managers are more important than ever, but are still overlooked and underinvested in, despite their importance and value delivered inside organizations. During our conversation, Scott spoke about how middle managers have become even more critical as a result of how the world of work has changed and evolved since the pandemic. Scott also shared how the best middle managers manage the complexity of the role, so that they can lead from the middle in today’s world of work. Links
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| How Executives and Culture Influence Leadership Development at Intuit | 27 Feb 2024 | 00:34:39 | |
Joel Constable is a Director of Talent Development at Intuit, where he leads a portfolio of talent and leadership development offerings. Throughout his career, Joel has always been curious and interested in the intersection of culture, leadership development and driving lasting behavioral change from leadership programs. During our conversation, Joel spoke about some of the common challenges with leadership development programs, and how he and his team have taken those into account as they’ve developed leadership programs at Intuit. Joel also spoke about the culture at Intuit and the culture informs and drives leadership behaviors as Intuit, and finally, Joel also spoke in depth about how he has been able to partner with leaders at Intuit into helping create leadership development programs that behavioral change and business impact. Links
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| How L’Oréal is Empowering People Managers to Lead in Today’s Workplace | 14 Oct 2025 | 00:25:39 | |
Stephanie Kramer is the Chief Human Resources Officer (CHRO) at L’Oréal North America. In this episode, Stephanie shares how L’Oréal is shaping a “people-first leadership culture” across its global organization. During our conversation, she spoke about the “magic triangle” between HR, managers, and employees, and how this model empowers people leaders to drive engagement, development, and performance at scale. Stephanie also talks about the importance of consistent feedback through quarterly “connect” conversations, the role of data in creating insights (not dashboards), and how HR can sustain impact through empowerment. Links
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| The Future of Talent with JP Elliott | 20 Feb 2024 | 00:42:28 | |
JP Elliott is a People and Talent Leader, and the Host of the Future of HR Podcast. With a career spanning 2 decades of talent and HR leadership roles, JP has both passion and expertise in understanding how talent plays a critical role in business strategy and value creation within an organization. During our conversation, JP spoke about his perspectives on the importance and opportunities in using talent in a strategic way in today’s world of work. JP also shared his perspective on key talent foundations and his own experiences around talent philosophies, investing in critical roles, and the importance of investing in high performers and high potential talent. JP also shared some of his own lessons and learnings from speaking with dozens of senior HR and people leaders on his own podcast, and his own advice on how HR leaders can lead in shaping the future of work. Links
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| Your Relationship With Work, with Dr. Nayla Bahri and Eric Johnson | 13 Feb 2024 | 00:49:10 | |
Dr. Nayla Bahri and Eric Johnson are Leadership Coaches and Co-Hosts of The Inside Job Podcast. As coaches and podcast hosts, Nayla and Eric spend their days helping people navigate the complexities of work, leadership and life, and provide their clients and listeners with tools, support and coaching to explore the intersection of creating healthy, self-directed, and sustainable work and careers. During our conversation, Eric and Nayla spoke about the changes they are seeing in work and the workplace, and how this has impacted employees in how they think about their relationships with work and their peers. We also spoke about the role that managers and leaders play in helping their employees develop and grow, and what Eric and Nayla think leaders can and should do, to create a better world of work for their people.
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| Cognitive Apprenticeship in the New World of Work | 06 Feb 2024 | 00:31:12 | |
In this episode, we spoke with Andrea MacKechnie, a leader in talent and leadership development. With a track record of leading talent and leadership teams, Andrea has a keen sense of how the workplace is changing, and the role that talent development plays in unlocking the potential and performance of people. Links:
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| How Penn State Health Thinks About Career Development and Employee Retention | 30 Jan 2024 | 00:28:38 | |
Hillary Miller is the Chief Learning Officer at Penn State Health. In her role as the Chief Learning Officer, Hillary is focused on driving employee retention and career development for the organization. During our conversation, Hillary spoke about some of the strategic approaches that she and her team have taken around focusing on employee retention to deliver a great experience both for employees as well as for patients of the hospital. Hillary also spoke about the organization’s strategy and philosophy around career development, and some of the tools and programs they have put in place to help employees at Penn State Health build their own careers inside of the organization. Links
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| Reinventing Your Career in a Changing World of Work with Herminia Ibarra | 23 Jan 2024 | 00:30:53 | |
Herminia Ibarra is a Professor at London Business School, and the author of Working Identity: Unconventional Strategies for Reinventing Your Career. Herminia's book came out over 20+ years ago, and helped pioneer a new way of thinking about career reinvention, and since then, has gone on to help and inspire many professionals looking to transition into new careers by tapping into their multiple selves. It was recently updated, and the second edition was published in the fall of 2023. During our conversation, Herminia spoke about what’s changed in the workplace and how we think about career reinvention since she first published her book in 2003, as well as what still remains. She also shared her perspective on why career reinvention is so hard, why we expect more out of our work and our careers, and how using exploration and experimentation can help us iterate, reinvent and evolve amidst a changing world of work. Links:
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| The Future of HR in The Future of Work with Rodney Evans | 16 Jan 2024 | 00:38:52 | |
Rodney Evans is a Partner at The Ready, a future of work consulting firm, as well as the Co-Host of the Podcast Brave New Work. After working as a leader in HR for over a decade, Rodney has been advising organizations to think and work in new ways to adapt to a complex and ever changing world of work. During our conversation, Rodney spoke about some of the challenges organizations are facing both today and how new ways of thinking and working around HR can help us create a better world of work. She also shared some of her thoughts around how leaders and organizations that want to create a better world of work, can get started today. Links:
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| Building High Performing, Flexible Organizations with Cali Williams Yost | 09 Jan 2024 | 00:38:35 | |
Cali Williams Yost is the Founder and CEO of the Flex+Strategy Group. With over three decades of experience advising companies on flexible work strategies, Cali has a keen understanding of how flexible work fuels high performing organizations. During our conversation, Cali spoke about some of the current challenges and bright spots with flexible work policies, the importance of training managers and leaders to work in flexible ways, and some of the latest research she and her team have uncovered in building high performing, flexible organizations. Links: | |||
| Best Hits: Designing Your Company Culture For a Changing World of Work | 02 Jan 2024 | 00:42:09 | |
Note: This is a replay of a popular episode of Season 2 From The Edge of Work with Melissa Daimler, Chief Learning Officer at Udemy, and Author of Reculturing: Design Your Company Culture to Connect with Strategy and Purpose for Lasting Success. An experienced executive in learning and people, Melissa has been a student and practitioner of culture and has seen and led cultural transformations at leading companies including Adobe and Twitter. But while designing a great culture is a good start, in a complex and ever-changing world, setting a static culture is no longer enough, in fact, companies can and should re-culture their organizations, as their people, customers, and business evolves. During this LinkedIn live, we spoke about the importance of company culture in today’s changing world of work, lessons from Melissa’s experiences at leading companies like Adobe and Twitter, and key aspects of both designing and re-designing company culture. Links:
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| Best Hits: Empowering Managers To Lead Teams in Today's Workplace | 26 Dec 2023 | 00:37:00 | |
Note: This is a replay of one of our most popular episodes from Season 3 of The Edge of Work. During our conversation, Adam dove into some of the changes in the workplace and the implications of those changes (ex: technology) for what companies need out of their people managers so that they can have engaged and productive employees. Adam also shared some of his team’s strategy and approach at his organization around manager effectiveness, the approaches they are taking in redesign the role of the manager and develop good managers, and his own to recruit and empower effective managers, and some of his own thoughts on how you can create a better world of work through better managers. Links:
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| Best Hits: Improving Employee Retention and Internal Mobility Through Career Development | 22 Dec 2023 | 00:36:44 | |
Note: This is a replay of one of our most popular episodes from S2 of The Edge of Work. As the head of Career Experience, Nick’s role is to build an organization that not only attracts great employees, but develops them, retains them and provides them opportunities to grow so they can contribute to Fishawack Health. Upon taking the role, Nick had a bold mandate, which was to develop and implement a new strategy around career development and the transformation to enable it so Fishawack Health could compete for top talent in a very competitive labor market. During this conversation, Nick spoke about the “why” for going under this massive transformation. Nick also shared some of the feedback that employees provided on the new programs, technologies and pathways, how they were able to change the culture and behaviors around career development in “drumbeats, not lightning bolts.” Nick also spoke about how the various technologies and programs that were a part of the transformation engage and interact with employees, Nick’s own learnings to date from leading the transformation, as well as his advice to others who are thinking about developing and implementing a career development strategy for their organization. Links:
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| Dr. Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic on AI, Leadership, and Why Authenticity at Work is Overrated | 07 Oct 2025 | 00:44:42 | |
Dr. Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic is the Author of Don't Be Yourself: Why Authenticity Is Overrated (and What to Do Instead). In this episode, Tomas challenges the conventional wisdom that authenticity is always a virtue, especially in leadership. He explains why showing up as your “whole self” can backfire, and why striving to bring your best self is a more powerful approach. Along the way, Tomas connects these ideas to his broader research on technology, AI, and the future of work. Links
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| S3 E35: Season 3 Wrap Up, HR and Talent Trends for 2024 That We're Watching | 18 Dec 2023 | 00:15:28 | |
In the season finale, Al shares some of the research HR, talent and the future of work that he's reading this holiday season, highlights and insights from season 3, and some ideas about what's ahead for season 4 in The Edge of Work. Happy Holidays! | |||
| S3:E34: Talent Tectonics: Redesigning Jobs to Create a Better World of Work | 12 Dec 2023 | 00:44:04 | |
Steve Hunt is a chief expert at SAP, an organizational psychologist, and the author of "Talent Tectonics: Navigating Global Workforce Shifts, Building Resilient Organizations, and Reimagining the Employee Experience." With his background in organizational psychology and extensive experience working with various diverse organizations and industries, Steve has a keen understanding of how the workplace is changing, and what organizations can do to craft better work experiences that attract and develop talent, and unleash the purpose and potential of each employee. During our conversation, Steve shared his perspective on how two key shifts are reshaping the world of work, and what that means for organizations. Steve also went into detail on how organizations can create a better workplace for their people by improving the way we design jobs and create better organizational environments. Steve also spoke about the importance of leaders truly understanding the experiences of their frontline employees, the role of managers in the employee experience, and the importance of equipping managers with the right support and tools to help them better engage with their own employees. Links:
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| S3:E33: How Lifelong Learning enables agility and performance in a changing world of work | 05 Dec 2023 | 00:29:57 | |
Rose Sheldon is the Chief Learning Officer at KeyBank. With 20+ years in the financial services industry working in roles across functions and departments, Rose understands how technology, innovation and customer preferences require organizations to rapidly adapt and evolve to a changing world of work. In her role as the Chief Learning Officer, Rose sees the importance of creating an organizational culture that enables a company to sense and spot emerging trends, and help employees from the front line to the executive level build the skills and capabilities the organization needs to be successful in a changing world of work. During our conversation, Rose spoke about how she has helped guide Key Bank to driving performance in a changing world of work by focusing on a culture of lifelong learning, and dispelling common myths about how learning works in an organization. Rose also spoke about how in her role as Chief Learning Officer, she thinks about aligning her own learning and culture strategy to the business strategy, the importance of change agility, and how other organizations can think about intentionally and strategically using learning as a driver of organizational success. Links
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| S3 E32: Prioritizing Human Sustainability in the Workplace | 28 Nov 2023 | 00:51:45 | |
Jen Fisher is the Head of Human Sustainability at Deloitte, a Best-Selling Author and TEDx Speaker. As one of the leading experts on well-being, Jen has spent the most recent part of her career helping leaders think differently about how they can improve the performance of their people through investing in the well-being and relationships of their people. During our conversation, Jen shared her perspective on the state of well-being, as well as the definition of human sustainability, and why it’s critical to any leader who wants to create an organization that drives high performance. Jen also spoke about her own journey with well-being, success, and high performance has informed her views on human sustainability, what leaders can do to prioritize human sustainability, and Jen’s ideas about how we can create a better world of work by focusing on our people. Note: This is a recording from a LinkedIn Live. Links:
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| S3:E31: Why We Need Responsible Companies to Create a Better World of Work | 21 Nov 2023 | 00:34:35 | |
Vincent Stanley is the Director of Philosophy at Patagonia, and the Co-Author of the book, The Future of The Responsible Company. In order to create a better world of work, it’s clear that organizations, and leaders specifically have a role to play in creating cultures and environments that drive performance and empower people. Patagonia has long been viewed as a leader of companies who are trying to blend people, purpose, and profits, and “do well while doing good” but the journey has not always been easy nor straightforward. During our conversation, Vincent spoke about the history of Patagonia, and how they think differently about their role as an organization, in the world, in their community and with their customers. Vincent spoke about some of the ways that Patagonia views their culture, their secrets to creating work that fuels their people, and his guidance on how other organizations can embrace becoming a responsible organization. Links
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| S3:E30: Reimagining The Role of The People Manager For Today’s World of Work | 14 Nov 2023 | 00:28:14 | |
The Edge of Work has been exploring the role of the manager as well as the emphasis on manager development throughout its three seasons. During this episode, Al breaks down the role of the people manager in today’s world of work. During this episode, Al will cover:
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| S3:E29: Driving Business Results Through Talent Development: Unlocking the Potential and Performance of People Managers | 07 Nov 2023 | 00:40:11 | |
David Landman is the Former Managing Director of Talent Development at Goldman Sachs, and the Head of Community for PeopleTech Enterprise. With experience leading talent development at Goldman Sachs for over two decades, David has first-hand experience in developing an enterprise talent strategy that aligns technology, people, and organizational systems that unleash the potential and performance of each individual employee so that companies can achieve their desired business results. During the conversation, David spoke about some of his philosophies on talent management & development, ranging from performance management, manager development, to identifying and developing the right kinds of behaviors of managers in his role at Goldman Sachs. David also spoke about what he thinks great management looks like in today’s world of work, the process of aligning individual career goals with organizational goals, and how David sees technology and talent working together to create a better world of work. Links
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| S3:E28: The Role of Talent Development in Creating a Better World of Work | 31 Oct 2023 | 00:40:40 | |
Michelle Braden is the VP of Global Talent Development at WEX Inc, a global payments processing platform. As a talent development leader, Michelle has held a number of talent development leader roles and has a keen understanding of how talent development can facilitate business outcomes and performance. Here are three key themes from this episode:
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| S3:E27:Measuring The Impact of Learning to Create a Better Workplace | 24 Oct 2023 | 00:33:34 | |
Kevin Yates is a Speaker, Consultant, and Expert on measuring the impact of training and learning inside organizations. During our conversation, we spoke to Kevin about the role of training and learning in a changing world of work, the challenges and opportunities with measuring the impact of training and learning, and Kevin’s own perspective on how companies can better measure the impact of training and learning initiatives inside their organization so that they can elevate the potential of their people and achieve business goals. Links:
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| S3:E26: How Verizon uses technology to improve learning and leadership development for 115,000 Employees | 17 Oct 2023 | 00:33:38 | |
Lou Tedrick is the VP of Global Learning and Development at Verizon. With a remit of overseeing learning that helps employees grow and deliver on business outcomes for 115,000 employees, Lou and her team are constantly thinking ahead about how learning can support hundreds of thousands of employees across diverse businesses to be more productive, effective and engaged in their work. During our conversation, Lou spoke about the diverse roles and needs of the various business units, and how she and her team have identified ways to scale learning and leadership development experiences for their more than 115,000 employees. Lou also spoke about how her philosophy for creating workplaces where people can thrive, the importance of supporting employee’s personal and professional growth, what Verizon looks for and expects out of their leaders, and how Lou and her team approach using cutting edge technology (ex: AI, AR/VR) to help their employees develop the skills they need to deliver in a changing world of work. | |||
| Developing Better Managers Through Research at The Google School for Leaders | 30 Sep 2025 | 00:36:04 | |
Caleb Gatlin and Becca Anzalone work at The Google School for Leaders. During this conversation, they discuss how Google is reshaping leadership development by embedding research and user feedback directly into learning design. Caleb and Becca share insights from the Learning Advisors program, a global network of managers and employees who provide real-time input to shape programs and tools. They explore how feedback is often misunderstood, why trust is the foundation of effective career conversations, and what it takes to design learning experiences that reflect the diverse realities of work inside a global organization. Links
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| S3:E25: New Playbooks to Shape a New World of Work | 13 Oct 2023 | 00:28:39 | |
In early October, I had the chance to attend Linkedin’s Talent Connect Summit in New York City. During this 2 day event, I had the chance to chat, learn and connect with 1500 talent and HR leaders from across the globe, and to hear from speakers including The Reverend Honorable Dame Jacinda Ardern (Former PM of New Zealand) Spike Lee, to Donna Morris (Chief People Officer, Wal-Mart) and Sherry Cassano (SVP Talent, Pfizer) and April Rinne (Author, Flux: 8 Superpowers For Thriving in Constant Change) In this episode, I share some of my takeaways and learnings from the event, and talk about trends including generative AI, career development and internal mobility. I also share some examples of how companies like Wal-Mart, Pfizer, Cisco, Canva, and NBC Universal are embracing new playbooks to create a better world of work. | |||
| S3:E24: The New Employee Relationship: The Evolution of the Employee Relationship, and What it Means For Attracting and Retaining Talent | 10 Oct 2023 | 00:43:30 | |
Susan Lamotte is the CEO of exaqueo, an employer branding consultancy. With extensive experience in helping companies develop strategies that attract and retain talent, Susan has extensive experience and insight into the state of the workplace, what has changed, and the critical dynamics and relationships that exist between employees and organizations. During our conversation, Susan spoke about the changing landscape of work, the evolution of employer branding and the employee value proposition, as well as some of the common challenges employers face when they struggle with attracting and retaining their top talent. Susan also spoke about the importance of understanding the key relationship dynamics of the employment relationship, identified four critical dimensions of that relationship, and offered advice for how employers can construct and deliver upon employer value propositions that attract talent in today’s changing world of work. Links
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| S3:E23: Building a More Human Workplace with Melissa Swift | 04 Oct 2023 | 00:38:58 | |
Melissa Swift is the US Transformation Leader at Mercer, and the Author of the book Work Here Now: Think Like a Human and Build a Powerhouse Workplace. With expertise in leading human capital transformation across multiple industries, Melissa has a keen eye into what is and isn’t working about work, and in her book, offers a look into the ways in some of the broken and challenging components of the underlying fundamentals of work and the workplace, especially for knowledge workers and what we can do about it to think differently about work. During our conversation, Melissa dove into a history of work, including how elements of work, including the history of human resources, accounting, and performance management impact our workplace today, and how those negatively impact employee engagement, belonging, well-being, and productivity. We also spoke about some of the mindsets and constructs of work, such as “greedy work” and the “anxiety monster” harming companies and organizations, and ultimately, what leaders and organizations can start to do in order to fundamentally shift the way of thinking about how to construct work and create better workplaces. Links:
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| S3:E22: Reimagine Inclusion: Debunking Myths to Create a Better World of Work With Mita Mallick | 28 Sep 2023 | 00:39:56 | |
Mita Mallick is the Head of Inclusion, Equity, and Impact at Carta, and the Author of Reimagine Inclusion: Debunking 13 Myths to Transform Your Workplace. As a child, Mita grew up not seeing or hearing stories of people who looked or talked like her, and now, as a former brand management executive turned DEI leader, Podcast Host and author, Mita spends her time using her voice to amplify voices and people like her, and creating workplaces that accurately reflect and represent the people in those communities. During our conversation, Mita spoke about her own journey into the corporate workplace and the challenges and successes that she faced along the way, and how those experiences and others factored into her upcoming book, and why it’s so critical to debunk these myths to create a better world of work. We also spoke about three specific myths that are covered in the book, and some practical and specific actions we can take in order to create a greater sense of belonging and more inclusive workplaces. Links:
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| S3:E21: Reimagining Retention with Erica Keswin | 25 Sep 2023 | 00:39:28 | |
Erica Keswin is a consultant, podcast host, and author of the newly released book, The Retention Revolution: 7 Surprising (and Very Human!) Ways to Keep Employees Connected to Your Company. As a longtime HR leader, consultant and researcher on workplace trends, Erica has been observing the changes in employee expectations out of work and the workplace, as well as identifying opportunities to truly rethink the way that we work. During our conversation, Erica spoke about some of the changes in the world of work that she has observed that have only grown over the past few years, as well as what prompted her to look at the employee experience and specifically rethinking some traditional norms of the workplace. We also spoke in depth about how to rethinking some of the traditional norms of the of the employee experience, around onboarding, flexibility, retention, and people managers, along with ideas and best practices Erica found from her work and research that she’s seeing companies implement to attract, engage, and develop employees in today’s world of work. Links:
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| S3:E20: Tips and Best Practices For New Managers with Eric Girard | 19 Sep 2023 | 00:27:38 | |
Eric Girard is the CEO of Girard Training Solutions, and a management development expert, and the author of Lead Like a Pro, The Essential Guide For New Managers. During our conversation, Eric spoke about the transition and changes people managers must navigate when moving from individual contributor to people manager, as well as some of the common pitfalls new managers make, and some critical skills all managers must learn, including goal setting, feedback, and coaching. Eric also shared some thoughts on what is different about being a manager in today’s world of work, and why empathy is a superpower each manager can tap into in order to build a great team.
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| S3:E19: Designing Work For Humans | 13 Sep 2023 | 00:48:24 | |
Dart Lindsley is the Host of The Work For Humans Podcast, and a People and HR Leader who has spent time at tech companies including Cisco and Google. Through hosting the Work For Humans podcast, he has further shaped an innovative philosophy which can reinvent how we think about work. Instead of treating workers as "inputs to production" Dart believes that we should be treating employees as customers, upholding the importance of understanding their needs, and then designing a product (ex: their job or role) that provides a satisfying work experience. During our conversation, Dart spoke about his observations of why work is not working, and what we can do to fix it. He also walks through his concept of thinking of work “as a product” and how by using concepts of product marketing and design, the feedback he's received from using this approach, and how managers can reinvent work that actually works for employees, so they can be engaged, fulfilled and do exceptional work. Links:
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| S3:E18: Why Leaders Should Focus on Trust and Experimentation to Create Better Workplaces | 11 Sep 2023 | 00:48:36 | |
Brian Elliott is a Co-Founder of Future Forum, Co-Author of How The Future Works, and a former VP at Slack. During our conversation, Brian spoke about some of his observations about what he’s seen change and evolve in the workplace over the past few years, and some of the challenges that hold leaders back from experimentation in the new world of work. Brian also shared what innovative leaders from companies like Slack, Hubspot, Atlassian, and Cotapaxi are doing differently to embrace this new world of work, as well as his own guidance to how leaders can focus on improving key business goals around productivity and engagement by focusing on better team dynamics and focusing on outcomes rather than outputs.
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| S3:E17: How Leaders can Help Their People Thrive in a Constantly Changing World of Work | 06 Sep 2023 | 00:42:21 | |
Dr. Gabriella Rosen Kellerman is the Chief Innovation Officer for BetterUp Labs, as well as the Co-Author of the book Tomorrowmind: Thriving at Work, Now and In an Uncertain Future. As a psychologist, Gabriella has studied the workplace and works each day in her role to help envision and create a better world of work. During our conversation Gabriella spoke about the history of work back from the hunter-gather days until present day, as well as the challenges that leaders and employees face in navigating a constantly changing and evolving world of work. Drawing on the concepts, research, and ideas, from her book as well as from her work at BetterUp Labs, Gabriella provided us with some ideas about the key skills that leaders and managers should both develop in order to lead effectively in today’s world of work, and how they can help their employees navigate the complexities and uncertainties of a constantly changing workplace, ranging from navigating uncertainty, mattering and purpose, and developing social connection regardless of location. Using the PRISM model, Gabriella also shared five key skills that all employees can develop and use to thrive in today’s world of work so that they can thrive Links
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| S3:E16: New Ways of Working with Kelly Monahan (Managing Director, Upwork) | 04 Sep 2023 | 00:42:58 | |
Kelly Monahan is the Managing Director at Upwork, and leads their Future of Work research efforts. Having conducted and led future of work research efforts at leading organizations, Kelly has been studying the workplace and how it’s changed and evolved over the years, and is currently leading efforts at Upwork to identify Workplace innovators who are truly thinking and working about the workplace and designing organizations. During our conversation, Kelly spoke about some of her observations about how she has seen the workplace change, and some examples of how companies and leaders have adapted new ways of working and thinking as a result of those changes, ranging from how companies hire, think about work, and design work. Links:
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| Work in Progress: Alexis Fink on AI, HR, and Rethinking the Future of Work | 23 Sep 2025 | 00:49:09 | |
Alexis Fink is a Principal at Propeller Insight. In this episode of The Edge of Work, Alexis Fink (formerly VP People Analytics & Workforce Strategy, Meta), joins Al Dea to explore some of the biggest headlines on talent, HR AI, and the future of work. Together, they discuss how AI is exposing the “BS economy” of meaningless work, what the future of HR could look like as the function reimagines its role, and why so many corporate AI pilots are failing to deliver results. From rethinking how we define substance at work, to exploring HR’s opportunity to become more strategic, to understanding the gap between AI hype and reality, Alexis brings insights grounded in her experience as an organizational psychologist, people analytics leader, and researcher helping organizations navigate change. Links
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| S3:E15: Designing Mentoring Programs That Work with Emily Goligoski (SVP, CharterWorks) | 30 Aug 2023 | 00:40:03 | |
Today’s episode is about the opportunity and importance of designing mentoring programs for employees in today’s changing world of work. Joining me is Emily Goligoski is the SVP of Research at Charter. Drawing on research that Emily and her team at Charter led to evaluate mentoring in the hybrid workplace, Emily shared some of their key findings from the report, including how mentoring is impacted by work style (hybrid, in-person, and remote) how great mentor-pair relationships work, and some of the key characteristics of well run mentoring programs. Emily also shared some of her observations on some of our shortcomings with mentoring programs and how to overcome them, and her ideas for how to build a great mentoring program inside your organization.
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| S3:E14: Empowering Managers to Lead in a Changing World of Work with Adam Hickman | 27 Aug 2023 | 00:37:55 | |
Adam Hickman is the Vice President of Learning and Org Development at Partners Federal Credit Union, a Walt Disney Company. In addition to this role, Adam is an author and professor and writes and speaks regularly on topics related to management and leadership. During our conversation, Adam dove into some of the changes in the workplace and the implications of those changes (ex: technology) for what companies need out of their people managers so that they can have engaged and productive employees. Adam also shared some of his team’s strategy and approach at his organization around manager effectiveness, the approaches they are taking in redesign the role of the manager and develop good managers, and his own to recruit and empower effective managers, and some of his own thoughts on how you can create a better world of work through better managers. Links:
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| S3:E13: How Technology is Reshaping the Workplace with Dan Nieves | 24 Aug 2023 | 00:36:28 | |
Note: This is a recording from a LinkedIn Live. Dan Nieves works in Global Executive Engagement at Reality Labs at Meta. Over the course of his career, Dan has worked at the intersection of emerging technology, people and the future of work. During this conversation, Dan spoke about how technologies including AR/VR (Augmented Reality/Virtual Reality) are reimagining how we think about work, and shared some examples and ideas for how companies can use emerging technology to truly reimagine and rethink the way they work. Links
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