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In this foundational episode, we introduce you to the rest of the talented education team behind Avlon Education — Lathaniel Chambers, Hannah Marcia, and Pashcan’el Mitchell. Join us for a roundtable conversation spotlighting each guest’s expertise, career journey, passions, and what makes them shine in the professional hair industry.

Discover each educator’s "zone of genius," the hero products they swear by, their go-to hair hacks, and the icons who inspire their work. Plus, hear their thoughts on the power of sharing knowledge through podcasting — and what exciting projects are on the horizon.

Key Topics Covered

• Meet the Avlon Education team and explore their career highlights
• Areas of expertise and what they’re best known for
• Hero products from Avlon’s professional portfolio
• Pro tips, hair hacks, and insider techniques
• Creative influences and upcoming projects
• The importance of education in the beauty and hair industry

Stay Connected

If you enjoyed today’s episode, don’t forget to follow, subscribe, and leave a review. Join the conversation with us on social media:

Avlon Europe: @avlonuk

Avlon: @avlon

Follow our incredible guests:

Lathaniel: @lathanielscouture

Hannah: @hannahmarciaa

Pash: @pashcanel

Hosts:

Jacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintosh

Louis Driver: @louisdoeshair

Production Credits

Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh

Recorded at: London Podcast Studios

Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi

Cover Design: Louis Driver

In this honest first episode, Louis and Jacqui reflect on what led them to create The Detangled Podcast, their journeys in the industry, and the importance of passing knowledge on. Drawing on years of professional experience, cultural insight, and personal passion, they explore the need for honest, accessible conversations around textured haircare and education.

Louis and Jacqui discuss the evolving nature of the hair industry, the challenges around misinformation, and the importance of creating a platform for sharing lived experience and professional knowledge. They reflect on their own journeys, the impact of working with Avlon, and their favourite hero products from the brand’s portfolio.

This episode sets the tone for the series — open, educational, and rooted in authenticity — while inviting listeners into a space built for hair professionals and curious consumers alike.

Key Topics Covered

• The origins and purpose of The Detangled Podcast
• Career journeys of the hosts and their paths into education
• Misconceptions around curly and textured hair
• The importance of inclusivity and accessible knowledge
• Favourite Avlon products and how they support healthy hair
• What drives their continued passion for the industry
• Building a space for reflection, growth, and professional pride

Stay Connected

Follow the hosts:

• Louis Driver: @louisdoeshair
• Jacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintosh

Follow Avlon:

• Avlon Europe: @Avloneurope
• Avlon: @Avlon

Production Credits

• Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh
• Recorded at: London Podcast Studios
• Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi
• Cover Design: Louis Driver

www.avloneurope.co.uk

Welcome to The Detangled Podcast by Avlon—your go-to podcast for all things curly, coily, and textured hair. Hosted by Jacqui McIntosh and Louis Driver, we’re here to provide conversations that educate, empower, and inspire. Whether you're just starting your curly hair journey or you’re a seasoned pro, The Detangled Podcast will help you navigate everything from hair care to the latest trends in the textured hair space.

In this trailer, we’re giving you a sneak peek into the exciting, informative, and entertaining episodes we have in store. Join us as we dive into the science, care, and celebration of textured hair, while sharing tips, expert insights, and product recommendations.

Stay tuned for our upcoming episodes.

• Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh @jacqui.mcintosh & Louis Driver @louisdoeshair
• Theme: Textured hair care, Hair education, empowerment, and inspiration
• What to Expect: Expert conversations on curly hair care, coily hair care, scalp health, product advice, and the science of textured hair. We’ll discuss the latest trends in curly hair styling, scalp care tips, and much more.
• Call to Action: Don’t forget to subscribe, and follow us on social media for all the latest updates.

Follow Us:

• Instagram: @avlonuk. @avlon
• Facebook: Avlon UK
• Website: Avlon.com

In this informative solo episode of The Detangled Podcast, co-host Jacqui McIntosh is joined by Avlon educator Hannah Marcia for a deep dive into the foundations of curly and coily haircare. Whether you're just beginning your natural hair journey or refining your routine, this episode is packed with practical advice, product recommendations, and professional insight into caring for textured hair.

Together, Jacqui and Hannah explore the science behind curls and coils, the importance of recognising hair's individual needs, and how to select the right products based on porosity, density, and lifestyle. They also unpack the role of curl typing, how to apply product effectively, and how social media has shaped (and sometimes confused) the conversation around natural hair.

Expect real talk, expert guidance, and empowering advice to help listeners feel more confident about their hair and routines.

Key Topics Covered

• Understanding the structure of curly and coily hair
• Why porosity, not just curl type, matters
• The pros and pitfalls of curl typing
• How to build an effective haircare routine
• Clarifying the role of leave-ins, mousses, gels, and more
• Insights into co-washing and scalp health
• Social media’s influence on curl care
• Embracing volume vs. definition
• Transparent, honest hair consultations

Stay Connected:

If you enjoyed this episode, follow, subscribe, and leave us a review. Join the conversation with us on social media:

Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon

Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh – @jacqui.mcintosh Louis Driver – @louisdoeshair

Guest: Hannah Marcia – @hannahmarciaa

Production Credits

Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh

Recorded at: London Podcast Studios @londonpodcaststudios

Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi

Cover Design: Louis Driver

Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

In this deep-dive episode, hosts Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh sit down with Lathaniel Chambers, one of Avlon’s longest-standing educators, to explore the story behind the brand. Together, they reflect on Avlon’s legacy in textured haircare—from its game-changing product innovations to its science-led, family-run foundations.

The conversation spans decades of hair history, from the launch of the Affirm Relaxer system to the rise of the natural hair movement and the formulation of bestsellers like 'As I Am' and 'Uberliss'. Jacqui and Lathaniel share personal anecdotes, professional milestones, and why working with Avlon continues to inspire their practice today. With a strong focus on integrity, innovation, and education, this episode celebrates the values that have made Avlon a global name in textured haircare.

Key Topics Covered

• The history and ethos behind Avlon
• Game-changing product launches: Affirm, Fiber Guard, As I Am, Uberliss
• The influence of Dr. Ali N. Syed and the power of science in haircare
• Personal journeys of long-term Avlon educators
• Education, integrity, and innovation in product development
• Sustainability, ingredient transparency, and product testing
• The importance of professional guidance and product retail in salons

Stay Connected

Follow the hosts: Louis Driver: @louisdoeshair Jacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintosh

Follow Avlon: Avlon Europe: @avloneurope Avlon: @avlon

Connect with our guest: Lathaniel Chambers: @lathanielscouture

Production Credits

Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh

Recorded at: London Podcast Studios @londonpodcaststudios

Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi

Cover Design: Louis Driver

www.avloneurope.co.uk

In this informative episode of The Detangled Podcast by Avlon, Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh explore the often-overlooked foundation of healthy hair: the scalp. With Jacqui’s expertise as a trichologist, they take a deep dive into common ingredients, myths, and misconceptions surrounding curly and coily hair care. From decoding industry buzzwords like sulfates, silicones, alcohols, and proteins, to clarifying the importance of pH balance, scalp hygiene, and damage prevention, this episode offers a much-needed demystification of textured hair maintenance. Whether you're a seasoned stylist or someone navigating your own hair journey, Episode 10 is a masterclass in informed, science-led care.

Key Topics Covered

• Scalp Health
  • Why scalp care is essential to hair growth and integrity.
  • Common conditions like seborrheic dermatitis, folliculitis, and fungal infections.
  • The role of hygiene, product choice, and professional assessments in prevention.
  • The importance of seeing a trichologist
• Ingredient Deep Dive: Myth-Busting and Best Practices
  • Sulphates: Often demonised, but still useful in removing heavy buildup when used appropriately.
  • Silicones: Beneficial for textured hair if water-soluble and well-formulated.
  • Alcohols: Differentiating between fatty alcohols (moisturising) and short-chain alcohols (drying) based on hair type.
  • Proteins: Used to rebuild strength and elasticity, but require a moisture balance to prevent brittleness or breakage.
• pH Balance & Product Science
  • Understanding the pH scale (0–14), and why shampoos for textured hair should fall between 4.5–5.5.
  • The difference between neutralising (locks structure, e.g., in perms) and normalising (restores pH, e.g., post-chemical treatments).
• Damage vs. Compromise
  • Redefining “damage” in client conversations to “compromised” to reduce stigma.
  • Examples of common, often overlooked forms of damage: improper detangling, wet brushing, buildup, and poor product use.
• Protective Practices
  • The importance of leave-in conditioning, heat protection, and layering moisture at every stage of the process.

Stay Connected

Follow the hosts:

• Louis Driver: @louisdoeshair
• Jacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintosh

Follow Avlon:

• Avlon Europe: @Avloneurope
• Avlon: @Avlon

Production Credits

• Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh
• Recorded at: London Podcast Studios
• Cover Artwork Illustration: @bibanabi
• Cover Design: Louis Driver

Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

In this episode of The Detangled Podcast, co-hosts Jacqui McIntosh and Louis Driver are joined by Hannah Marcia to break down the essentials of colouring curly and coily hair. They explore the science behind textured hair, common colour myths, practical tips for stylists, and how to achieve stunning colour results without compromising curl integrity.

Key Topics Covered

• Textured Hair Structure: Curls have more open cuticles, making them lift quicker—but also more prone to damage. A “lower and slower” approach helps protect the hair.
• Placement & Technique: Traditional foil methods often fall short. Use visual, freehand techniques to work with the 3D nature of curls.
• Warm Tones: Gold and warm tones enhance shine on curls, which reflect less light than straighter textures. Clients should be educated about realistic outcomes.
• Product Choice Matters: High-lift tints, direct dyes, and bond builders offer gentle alternatives to bleach. Go in with intention—know your “why” behind every product.
• Myth-Busting: Colour doesn’t automatically loosen curl patterns. Overlapping or incorrect processing causes damage—not colour itself.
• Aftercare Is Essential: Moisture, protein, heat protection, and salon check-ins extend colour life and maintain curl health.
• Client Communication: Transparency is key. Stylists can’t protect hair they don’t know the history of. Educate clients on maintenance and realistic colour goals.
• Creating Dimension: Leaving sections out of colour is as important as what’s coloured—depth enhances curl definition and longevity.
• Formulation Strategy: Consider porosity and how textured hair reflects tone. Add warmth and pigment to prevent flat, dull results.

Hero Products & Pro Tips

Louis’s Picks:

• Uberliss Bond Healing Spray + Frizz Elixir: The ultimate combo for post-colour care—moisture, protection, and shine without weight.

Hannah’s Pick:

• Uberliss Colour Sustainers: Great for maintaining tone at home, adding pigment and moisture between salon visits.

Pro Tips:

• Louis: Always weigh formulas for accuracy—consistency matters, especially on fragile textures.
• Hannah: Be intentional—match your lightener or tint to the goal and always prioritise hair health.

Stay Connected

Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon

Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh & Louis Driver (@louisdoeshair)

Guest: Hannah Marcia (@hannahmarciaa)

Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

Produced by: Jacqui McIntosh & Louis Driver

Artwork: Habiba Nabisubi (@bibanabi)

Design: Louis Driver

Recorded at: London Podcast Studios

In this insightful episode of The Detangled Podcast, co-hosts Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh are joined by award-winning session stylist and educator Junior Green, along with returning guest Avlon Creative Pashcan'el Mitchell to explore the realities of working with textured hair on set.

Together, they unpack the creative, technical and logistical challenges of delivering hair excellence in fast-paced editorial, TV and film environments. From Bridgerton to BAFTA red carpets, the episode spotlights the skills and adaptability required to represent texture authentically and professionally. Whether you're a new stylist, an aspiring session artist or an educator, this episode offers grounded wisdom, career advice, and inspiration for navigating textured hair work beyond the salon.

Key Topics Covered

• What “texture on set” really means in professional settings
• The ongoing challenges of styling afro hair in editorial, fashion, TV and film
• Experiences working on major productions like Bridgerton
• Why core hairdressing skills (setting, pinning, classic dressing) still matter
• The time disparity when styling afro-textured hair vs. European textures
• Equipment must-haves and how to prepare for unpredictable working conditions
• The role of mentorship and lifelong learning in a stylist’s journey
• Building collections: structured planning vs. spontaneous creativity
• Industry icons, sources of inspiration and the legacy of textured hair in visual media

Stay Connected

Avlon Europe: @avlonuk

Avlon: @avlon

Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh & Louis Driver

Guests: Junior Green @juniorgreenhair & Pashcanell Mitchell @pashcanel

Production Credits

Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh

Recorded at: London Podcast Studios

Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi

Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

In this essential episode of The Detangled Podcast, co-hosts Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh are joined by hair stylists and educators Lathaniel Chambers and Pashcan'el Mitchell to explore the world of smoothing systems. Whether you're a professional looking to refine your practice or a client curious about options, this episode breaks down the key methods used to smooth textured hair and the responsibilities that come with them.

Together, the panel unpacks the differences between relaxers, texturizers, and silk presses, offering expert insights on consultation, client suitability, and the myths and realities surrounding these techniques. The conversation also delves into aftercare, education gaps, and the evolving attitudes toward chemically and thermally altered hair textures in salons and online spaces.

Expect informed discussion, practical tips, and thoughtful reflection on how smoothing services can be delivered safely, ethically, and with respect for the hair’s natural integrity.

Key Topics Covered

• The differences between relaxers, texturizers, and silk presses
• The history and cultural perceptions of smoothing systems
• The importance of honest consultation and professional assessment
• Recognising when smoothing services are or aren’t appropriate
• Online misinformation and its impact on client expectations
• Product selection and hair preparation for smoothing services
• Training gaps and continuing education for stylists
• Managing transitions from chemical to natural textures

Hero Products & Pro Tips

• Use of neutralising shampoos to protect the hair post-relaxer
• How heat protectants enhance longevity and safety during silk presses
• The role of conditioning treatments before and after chemical services
• Tips for avoiding over-processing and maintaining healthy hair

Stay Connected:

If you enjoyed this episode, follow, subscribe, and leave us a review. Join the conversation with us on social media:

Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon

Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh – @jacqui.mcintosh Louis Driver – @louisdoeshair

Guest: Lathaniel: @lathanielscouture Pash: @pashcanel

Production Credits

Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh

Recorded at: London Podcast Studios @londonpodcaststudios

Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi

Cover Design: Louis Driver

Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

In this illuminating episode of The Detangled Podcast, hosts Jacqui McIntosh and Louis Driver are joined by industry educator and author Sandra Gittens. With a legacy spanning over three decades, Sandra shares invaluable insights into the evolution of textured hair education, highlighting the historical gaps in Afro hair training and the progress made in raising industry standards. From her experience writing the UK's first dedicated Afro hair curriculum to pushing for inclusive qualifications, Sandra offers a powerful perspective on where the industry has been—and where it needs to go.

Key Topics Covered

• The absence of Afro and textured hair in historical training manuals and qualification standards
• Sandra’s journey in developing the first NVQ units for Afro hair in the UK
• How miseducation impacts client experiences and stylist confidence
• Why inclusive education must be central to all hair training programmes
• A discussion on the cultural significance of Afro hair and why representation matters
• What still needs to change in product development, education, and professional attitudes

Hero Products & Pro Tips

• Sandra emphasises the importance of understanding hair texture and porosity over simply focusing on curl patterns
• Advice for educators: “Embed textured hair into every unit—don't bolt it on.”
• For stylists: Ongoing education is key. “Never stop learning, because textured hair is always evolving.”

Stay Connected:

If you enjoyed this episode, follow, subscribe, and leave us a review. Join the conversation with us on social media:

Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon

Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh – @jacqui.mcintosh Louis Driver – @louisdoeshair

Guest: Sandra Gittes – @hannahmarciaa

Production Credits

Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh

Recorded at: London Podcast Studios @londonpodcaststudios

Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi

Cover Design: Louis Driver

Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

In this episode of The Detangled Podcast by Avlon, hosts Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh are joined by Aycan Kemal, owner of New York Hair Design, and returning guest Lathaniel Chambers for a rich and inspiring conversation on protective styling, braiding techniques, and natural haircare culture. Aycan shares her phenomenal 25-year journey in the textured hair industry, including her Guinness World Record for the fastest braiding, and her passion for competition styling. Together with Lathaniel, they unpack what makes a style truly protective, how to maintain scalp health, and why natural hair trends are evolving for the better. From award-winning artistry to salon best practices, this episode is packed with insights for professionals and enthusiasts alike.

Key Topics Covered

• Defining Protective Styling: Tension, technique, and how to avoid long-term damage.
• Braiding Techniques & Style Trends: Including boho braids, knotless styles, and Fulani-inspired patterns.
• Aycan’s Career & Accolades: From opening her salon in 2000 to entering the Hall of Fame and setting a Guinness World Record.
• Product Knowledge & Texture Focus: Tailoring treatments to Type 3 & Type 4 curls, plus insider product tips.
• Scalp Health & Maintenance: How to manage braids between salon visits without compromising style longevity.
• Salon Culture & the Natural Hair Movement: Embracing authenticity, inclusivity, and the evolving expectations of textured hair clients.

Stay Connected:

If you enjoyed this episode, follow, subscribe, and leave us a review. Join the conversation with us on social media:

Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon

Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh – @jacqui.mcintosh Louis Driver – @louisdoeshair

Guests: Aycan Kemal: @nyhairdesign Lathaniel Chambers: @thehairmechanicldn

Production Credits

Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh

Recorded at: London Podcast Studios @londonpodcaststudios

Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi

Cover Design: Louis Driver

Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

In this special bonus episode of The Detangled Podcast, hosts Jacqui McIntosh and Louis Driver sit down with Dr. Ali N. Syed, founder and CEO of Avlon Industries, to explore the science, innovation, and legacy behind some of the most iconic textured hair products in the world.

With over 45 patents, Dr. Syed is a true pioneer in textured haircare, having developed brands such as Affirm, KeraCare, As I Am, and Uberliss. He shares his personal journey, from his early passion for hair in the 1970s to the development of cutting-edge technologies focused on curl protection, scalp health, and hair growth.

The conversation highlights the global diversity of curly and coily textures, the future of hair science, and the launch of his book Curly Hair, a comprehensive guide rooted in decades of research and salon experience.

Key Topics Covered

• Dr. Syed’s journey into hair science and why he specialised in curly and coily hair
• The power of patents and how innovation shapes the future of textured haircare
• Scientific insights into curl formation, keratin-associated proteins, and hair damage prevention
• Why scalp health is foundational, including microbiome balance and product development
• The evolution of iconic brands: Affirm, As I Am, and Uberliss
• The inspiration behind his book Curly Hair and what it offers to stylists and consumers alike
• The ongoing pursuit of natural ingredients and advanced product formulations

Stay Connected:

If you enjoyed this episode, follow, subscribe, and leave us a review. Join the conversation with us on social media:

Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon

Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh – @jacqui.mcintosh Louis Driver – @louisdoeshair

Guest: Dr. Ali N. Syed, Founder & CEO

Production Credits

Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh

Recorded at: London Podcast Studios @londonpodcaststudios

Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi

Cover Design: Louis Driver

Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

In this special bonus episode of The Detangled Podcast, Louis and Jacqui pause to reflect on the year that has passed, both personally and professionally, and take stock of the moments, conversations, and developments that have shaped their work.

They revisit key highlights from the year, including the growth of the podcast, live education moments, international projects, and the evolving direction of education within Avlon. Through open conversation, they explore how the brand continues to push boundaries, respond to the changing landscape of the hair industry, and remain rooted in science-led, inclusive haircare.

The episode also looks ahead, with Louis and Jacqui sharing insights into what is next, from the evolution of education and professional standards to future projects, collaborations, and the next phase of The Detangled Podcast. Thoughtful, reflective, and future-facing, this bonus episode offers listeners a behind-the-scenes look at a brand and partnership in motion.

Key Topics Covered

• Reflecting on the past year and its defining moments
• Growth and reception of The Detangled Podcast
• Education, innovation, and science-led haircare at Avlon
• International work, live education, and community building
• The importance of professional standards and continued learning
• Looking ahead to future projects, education pathways, and Season Two

Stay Connected

Follow the hosts: Louis Driver: @louisdoeshair Jacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintosh

Follow Avlon: Avlon Europe: @Avlonuk Avlon: @Avlon

Production Credits

Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh Artwork Illustration: @bibanabi Cover Design: Louis Driver

Relaxers are one of the most talked-about — and misunderstood — services in haircare.

In this episode of The Detangled Podcast by Avlon, Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh are joined by Samantha Golding, founder of SG Hair Birmingham and a chemical-services specialist with more than 30 years of in-salon experience. Together, they demystify relaxers: challenging the idea that they are automatically harsh, outdated or one-size-fits-all, and bringing the conversation back to knowledge, choice and professional expertise.

Samantha explains that a relaxer is not simply a product or a process. In the right professional hands, it is a prescriptive service shaped around the client’s hair, scalp, styling goals, lifestyle and commitment to aftercare. She also explores where Texture Release may fit into a client’s journey, but keeps the focus on the detail, assessment and understanding required before any chemical service takes place.

From misinformation online to scalp analysis, hair mapping, home care and the reality of maintaining a style, this is a grounded conversation about what relaxers can be — when education and experience lead the way.

Revised Key Topics Covered

• Demystifying relaxers and challenging common misconceptions
• Why relaxers are not automatically harsh or one-size-fits-all
• Samantha Golding’s 30 years of in-salon chemical-service experience
• The difference between online “knowledge” and informed professional advice
• How relaxer strengths and formulations can be prescribed to individual needs
• Why the scalp, skin condition and hair history matter
• In-depth consultation, virtual assessment and scalp analysis
• The role of hair mapping in professional relaxer services
• Texture Release as one option within a wider, personalised approach
• Matching a service to a client’s desired look, lifestyle and maintenance routine
• Shampooing, hydration and home care as part of relaxer longevity
• Why skilled application, training and professional judgement are essential

Stay Connected

Follow the hosts:
Louis Driver: @louisdoeshair
Jacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintosh

Follow Samantha Golding / SG Hair Birmingham:
@sghairsalon

Follow Avlon:
Avlon: @avlon
Avlon UK: @avlonuk

Production Credits

Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh
Recorded at: Storyhouse Studios — @storyhouse_studios

The Detangled Podcast is part of Avlon Europe. Discover more at:
https://avloneurope.co.uk/

Heat styling does not have to be feared — but it does need to be understood.

Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh are joined by Nancy Rae, Digital Marketing Coordinator at Cloud Nine, to discuss heat protection, heat damage, styling temperature and the everyday habits that can make a difference to the condition of the hair. Together, they challenge the idea that one temperature suits everyone and explore how hair condition, chemical services, lifestyle and desired result should all inform how heat is used.

They cover the importance of preparation, sectioning, hydration, appropriate tools and salon-to-home education. Whether you use straighteners, a blow-dryer or a diffuser, this episode offers a more thoughtful way to approach heat styling — with room for choice, creativity and healthy-looking hair.

Key Topics Covered

• Why one heat setting does not suit every head of hair
• Heat styling for curls, coils, colour-treated and chemically treated hair
• Heat protectant, hydration and preparation before styling
• Why correct sectioning can reduce repeated passes
• The difference between salon heat styling and home maintenance
• Common myths around “optimum” styling temperatures
• Heat awareness during menopause, postpartum changes and other life stages
• Maintaining colour, shine and condition when using heated tools
• Cloud Nine’s Temperature Calculator and Healthy Hair Hub
• Giving clients the confidence to style safely at home

Stay Connected

Follow the hosts:
Louis Driver: @louisdoeshair
Jacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintosh

Follow Avlon:
Avlon: @avlon
Avlon UK: @avlonuk

Follow Cloud Nine:
@nancyrae_

@cloudninehair

Temperature Calculator: https://www.cloudninehair.com/pages/temperature-calculator

Production Credits

Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh
Recorded at: Storyhouse Studios — @storyhouse_studios

The Detangled Podcast is part of Avlon Europe. Discover more at: https://avloneurope.co.uk/

What does it mean to grow up with curly hair — and how does that relationship change as you get older?

In this episode of The Detangled Podcast by Avlon, Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh are joined by Blair Lawrence-Broughton and Jess McIntosh for an honest conversation about hair stories, family influence, confidence and learning what works for you. From childhood hair routines and big hair changes to learning how to care for curls independently, they share the personal moments that shape how we see and wear our hair.

They also discuss chemical services, natural hair journeys, maintenance, trusting the person in charge of your hair and why curiosity is an important part of finding a routine that works. This episode is a warm, lived-experience conversation about choice, care and making your own hair story.

Key Topics Covered

• Growing up with curly hair and learning to care for it
• Family influence, trust and salon experiences
• Hair identity, confidence and personal style
• Cutting hair, starting again and embracing change
• Relaxers, Texture Release and having options
• Hair maintenance, treatments and creating a realistic routine
• Heat styling, aftercare and protecting the hair
• Finding a stylist or salon you can trust
• Why curiosity and reliable information matter

Stay Connected

Follow the hosts:
Louis Driver: @louisdoeshair
Jacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintosh

Follow the guests:
Blair Lawrence-Broughton: @blairl1
Jess McIntosh: @sunsetjes

Follow Avlon:
Avlon: @avlon
Avlon UK: @avlonuk

Production Credits

Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh
Recorded at: Storyhouse Studios — @storyhouse_studios

The Detangled Podcast is part of Avlon Europe. Discover more at: https://avloneurope.co.uk/

What does “texture” really mean in hairdressing today — and is it still the most useful word to use? 

In the Season 2 opener of The Detangled Podcast by Avlon, Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh explore the language of curly hair: curl patterns, hair characteristics, hair classification and the individuality of every head of hair. They discuss why broad labels can create confusion, why consultations need to go beyond hair type, and how hair science, practical experience and ongoing education can help professionals work with greater confidence. 

This is an open conversation for hair professionals, students and anyone curious about curls and coils — not about finding one perfect label but asking better questions and understanding hair more deeply. 

Key Topics Covered 

• What “texture” means in modern hairdressing 

• Why broad labels can create confusion for clients and professionals 

• The difference between curl pattern, hair type and hair characteristics 

• Curl classification as a reference point, not a complete diagnosis 

• Why every client needs an individual consultation 

• The influence of social media and online hair advice 

• Why hair science, theory and technique need to work together 

• How hands-on learning builds professional confidence 

• The value of structured education for working with curls and coils 

• Avlon’s approach to product development, education and versatile haircare 

• Louis and Jacqui’s current Avlon product favourite 

  
  

Stay Connected 

Follow the hosts: 
Louis Driver: @louisdoeshair 
Jacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintosh 

Follow Avlon: 
Avlon Europe: @avlon 
Avlon: @avlon 

Production Credits 

Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh 
Recorded at: Storyhouse Studios - @storyhouse_studios

The Detangled Podcast is part of Avlon Europe. Discover more at -https://avloneurope.co.uk/