For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an expensive illness to treat - so why get unnecessary tests? Friggin don’t do it! Save your money. Today we tackle a very very popular, but very very pointless one: The Urinary Mycotoxin Test that supposedly tests you for mold. We will tell you why it’s pointless and feel free to send this to any doctor or practitioner that says otherwise. :)  For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:40 The only thing Urinary Mycotoxin Tests can tell you 2:44 No difference between healthy and chronically ill results 3:53 The danger of getting tested with others in your household 4:39 Bloodwork is also needed, making this urine test redundant at best 6:30 Urine tests do not indicate treatment: all mycotoxins need the same binder 7:40 The dangers of anti-fungals (-azoles) 8:47 Urine tests will not show progress in treatment accurately 9:34 The one saving grace of the urinary mycotoxin test 10:09 Barbara’s conspiracy theory on urine tests 11:35 Tell us if you took the urinary mycotoxin test and how it went for you

HELPFUL LINKS: https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/Urinary_mycotoxins_10_8_19_RS_published.pdf

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, often comes with very low or “undetectable” levels of MSH, or Melanocyte Stimulating Hormone. This hormone, which naturally occurs in the body, is connected to so many systems and can consequently cause a ton of symptoms when it’s too low. Today, we tackle all the ways this can manifest in CIRS patients, and offer some tips on getting yours back to normal levels. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:47 What is MSH and what happens to it if you have CIRS? 2:45 Shoemaker’s Biotoxin Pathway (see notes below) 3:13 What does low MSH impact? 3:33 Sleep issues 3:40 Suppressed endorphins 3:46 Leaky gut/GI issues 4:05 Immune system dysregulation: co-infections 4:40 MARCoNs 5:57 Cortisol/ACTH dysregulation 7:02 Sex hormones: DHEA, Testosterone 7:41 ADH/Osmolality dysregulation: frequent urination and urgency, fainting 9:56 How do you raise your MSH? 10:32 Dr. Peg and Dr. Christian’s work re: Histamines and MSH 12:08 Barbara’s experience with MSH coming up 12:46 VIP spray’s role in MSH 13:30 Additional support: Sunrises and KPV 14:40 Why root cause healing is so important: brain atrophy

HELPFUL LINKS: Dr. Shoemaker’s Biotoxin Pathway: https://www.survivingmold.com/resources-for-patients/diagnosis/the-biotoxin-pathway Our CIRSx recap, which includes the talk Dr. Peg and Dr. Christian gave re: MSH: https://youtu.be/qkL6OuiD2mQ?si=ejvPUilbB0uncXcT

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Guests today:

Dr. Lauren Sparks, DNP, CNP, APRN, PMHNP-BC, CTP, MA, RN

Therapist Brenda Stewart, LMHC, NCC, CTH

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can take a toll on the mental health of the patient, just as much and sometimes more so than physically. No one knows this better than our guests today: Dr. Lauren Sparks, a Shoemaker Certified Doctor of Nursing Practice, and Brenda Stewart, a Licensed Mental Health Counselor and trauma specialist. Together they are offering a much needed extra layer of support for CIRS patients that are experiencing PTSD or other trauma-like responses due to CIRS and other events in their lives: group therapy. Today, they’ll explain why trauma plays such a big role in so many CIRS patients’ lives and what can be done to heal and move past it. This is not medical advice - please consult your physician or provider for what might be best for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:30 Dr. Lauren Sparks’ background and personal CIRS story 2:07 Brenda Stewart’s background and personal CIRS story 4:19 People with CIRS want to help others with CIRS 4:43 How and why trauma complicates CIRS, or possibly causes it 10:00 What modalities of therapy are best for CIRS patients? 12:33 Cognitive Behavioral Therapy vs Narrative Therapy 16:17 What is EMDR and what to expect during a session 20:27 Group Therapy option through Dr. Sparks’ practice 23:20 Why group therapy might be more beneficial for CIRS patients 27:23 Group therapy promotes connection and feelings of safety 28:28 Who would most benefit from their Group Therapy offering 30:08 How to sign up for Dr. Sparks’ and Brenda’s Group Therapy program 32:33 If you feel resistant to group therapy, explore why that is

HELPFUL LINKS:

Dr. Sparks’ practice’s website with information about their new group therapy options: https://www.untamediona.com/therapy Send an email to Dr. Sparks’ team if you are interested in working with them: connect@untamediona.com

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness that we strive to demystify for you here, every week on The CIRS Group Podcast. This week we will be concluding our fun CIRSx 2024 recap series - and we’ve saved some of the heaviest talks for last! Today we’re covering Histamine/MAST cell reactivity, the dangers of consuming seed oils, Hyperbaric Oxygen Chamber Therapy, and ADH/Osmolality issues (peeing too much!). We heard some great talks by Dr. Louise Carder, Dr. McMahon, and more - so check out today’s episode to learn our big takeaways from these great talks. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:12 Dr. Louise Carder’s talk on Histamines

3:26 Important takeaways about histamines

4:35 Things you can do if you struggle with histamines

6:00 Histamine support can cause better MSH levels

7:02 Dr. Knobbe’s Seed Oils talk

9:20 Dr. Jim Ryan’s talk about platelets

11:30 Platelets activate differently with CIRS

12:42 Dr. Meyers’ talk on Hyperbaric Chamber Treatment

15:20 Takeaways from this talk: MARCoNs, mitochondrial function, inflammatory markers

16:10 Pressure matters: what Dr. Meyers recommends

18:22 Dr. McMahon’s talk on ADH: Pee all that you can pee

19:25 How to tell if you’re peeing too much

21:50 Kids and bed-wetting

22:39 How to correct ADH/Osmolality issues

24:03 Why The CIRS Group is great (no, really!)

HELPFUL LINKS:

Dr. Louise Carder’s website: https://www.louisecarder.com/

Dr. Chris Knobbe’s book, The Ancestral Diet Revolution: How Vegetable Oils and Processed Foods Destroy Our Health - and How to Recover! https://a.co/d/79KIEEY

Dr. Jim Ryan’s website: https://www.progenedx.com/

Dr. Ryan Meyers’ clinic website: https://www.themovement.clinic/

Dr. Ryan Meyers’ instagram: https://www.instagram.com/docryanmeyers/

US Hyberbarics: https://www.ushyperbarics.co/

Dr. McMahon’s website: https://scottmcmahon.doctor/

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness that we strive to demystify for you here, every week on The CIRS Group Podcast. This week we will be continuing our fun CIRSx 2024 recap series - recapping the talks on breathwork, CIRS coaching, and litigation. Yes, you might be able to sue for damage done to your health and your home if someone is responsible for your mold problem! Let’s dive in. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:40 Breathwork talk by Morgan Glodowski

3:04 Research backed benefits of breathwork

5:42 Similarities to Wim Hof

6:44 Creating Healing Momentum by Jenny Johnson and Jane Prescot

7:38 Why you might want a CIRS Coach

9:50 Borrow a non-CIRS brain

12:15 Hope is the biggest correlation to healing

12:54 Resources for CIRS Coaches

13:38 Kristina Baehr, Esq. talk on Litigating Mold

16:05 Suing over mold will help get CIRS recognized

17:00 Questions to ask yourself to determine if you have a case

21:07 Bob McKee, Esq. talk on Raising the Bar

23:05 What to do when insurance denies your claim

23:47 Statute of Limitations

24:45 Proof of toxicity requires dose and duration

26:05 Convince the jury that this could happen to them

27:25 Who is being sued? And should you test your house?

HELPFUL LINKS:

“Sudarshan Kriya Breathwork”

Morgan Glodowski’s instagram: https://www.instagram.com/morgan.glodowski/

Jenny Johnson’s website: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/

Jane Prescot’s website: https://getmymoldylifeback.com/

Christian Navarro-Torres, PhD’s group: https://www.cirslab.com/home

Judy Cho’s group options: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/groups

Find Proficiency Partners (usually coaches) on Surviving Mold’s website: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/surviving-mold-proficiency-partners-diplomates

CIRSx Institute Courses (including coaching): https://institute.cirsx.com/p/courses

SurvivingMold’s Proficiency Partner certification: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/community/online-proficiency-partners-course

Attorney Kristina Baehr’s website: https://www.well.law/

Previous episode about proper testing: https://youtu.be/bJt6PqFYvPA

Attorney Bob McKee’s website: https://themckeelawgroup.com/

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated chronic illness that can affect a quarter of the population if they get exposed to biotoxins. Today, we continue our CIRSx conference recap with some medical talks by Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, Dr. Peg DiTulio, Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, and Ming Dooley L.Ac. For those of you who have been diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, or CFS, be sure to watch until the end for some extra interesting research aimed at your condition (which is most likely actually CIRS). For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:39 Dr. Shoemaker’s talk: passing the baton

3:22 Proper screening: history of exposure

6:03 Tools to show inflammation and exposure

9:00 Keep researching, keep publishing

10:06 Dr. Peg DiTulio and Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres: MSH talk

10:55 Histamine issues are highly underrated in treatment

11:38 MARCoNs matter to raise MSH

12:18 GENIE should include histamines

12:40 As MMP9 goes down, MSH goes up

13:33 Treating Thyroid gets better MSH outcomes

13:49 COVID and MSH

15:05 If you are plateauing consider co-infections

16:04 Ming Dooley: Comparing Shoemaker research with Chronic Fatigue

18:48 EMDR showed promise in one patient with CFS

20:00 Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is CIRS

21:50 17 years to get medical research into the mainstream

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS:

SAIIE: Sequential Activation of Innate Immune Elements, available for purchase on SurvivingMold.com: https://www.survivingmold.com/store/presentations/saiie-a-health-index-for-people-re-exposed-to-water-damaged-buildings

Dr. Shoemaker’s website: https://www.survivingmold.com/

Dr. Peg DiTulio’s website: https://regenixhealing.com/

Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres’ website: https://www.cirslab.com/

Ming Dooley is a licensed acupuncturist, who works with her husband, an MD, and his website is: https://www.drdooley.net/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness with a clinically proven, peer reviewed treatment called the Shoemaker Protocol. Every year, doctors certified in the Shoemaker Protocol organize an information packed conference called CIRSx. Today, we are continuing our recap of CIRSx and covering three talks about indoor environment improvements you can do today in your own home to improve your air quality and start healing from CIRS. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:35 Air Oasis talk 5:03 Info on buying an iAdapt 2.0 7:00 Aaron Pettigrew and Chris Foth update 9:55 Don’t slack off and give yourself grace 11:56 The CIRS Project non-profit 14:14 Actinos Update by Dr. Dorninger 16:47 How to manage actino cleaning 20:54 COVID as a priming event 21:14 Actinos are a violent driver of neurodegeneration 21:56 Air Oasis iAdapts seem to help with actino reactivity

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS: Where to buy an Air Oasis iAdapt 2.0: https://www.airoasis.com/ Podcast of Air Oasis owner John with IEP Michael Schrantz: https://youtu.be/Ke2fzV9cv-Q?si=ABXfKVcJK3p5bteO Christian (CIRSLab)’s affiliate code for AirOasis to get 10% off: CIRSLAB10 Chris Foth, Aaron Pettigrew interview with Dr. Dorninger: https://youtu.be/6WxFMhYm2rk?si=zwqpacNTclMtJyCn Our last actinos episode: https://youtu.be/q-KW5ZXUHVM Skin test for actinos: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/actino-skin/?v=3e8d115eb4b3 Homebiotic product: https://homebiotic.com/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness that can affect up to 25% of the population, thanks to genetics and environmental toxins. Today, we continue to recap CIRSx 2024, this time showing our Indoor Environmental Professionals some love! We had some fantastic talks by Michael Schrantz, Bill Weber, and Brandon Apple, plus Dr. Eric Dorninger and Dr. Jari Louhelainen and the topics covered include poop (or endotoxins), indoor air quality, indoor air testing, and the proper sequencing of remediation. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:13 Endotoxin talk by M. Schrantz and Dr. Dorninger 2:15 Endotoxins don’t always smell 2:58 How to test for endotoxins 4:39 DIY tips to deal with Endotoxins 6:30 What to avoid to keep endotoxins at bay 7:29 Air Quality talk by Dr. Jari Louhelainen 9:57 Real time air testing 11:00 The problem with HEPA filtration 11:57 Prevalence of government and leadership cover up 13:44 Mold Sampling Methods talk by Bill Weber 15:00 Air Sampling pros and cons 16:50 When to use air sampling 17:53 Why hire your own IEP or inspector 19:21 Remediation Sequencing talk by Brandon Apple 21:54 Verify after every step - test, test, test 24:00 Lean into your CIRS-literate IEP 25:15 The painful verification process

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS: Michael Schrantz’ company website: https://environmentalanalytics.net/ Dr. Doringer’s website: https://drdorninger.com/ Dr. Jari Louhelainen: https://www.ljmu.ac.uk/about-us/staff-profiles/faculty-of-science/pharmacy-and-biomolecular-sciences/jari-louhelainen Bill Weber’s company website: https://avelar.net/articles_publications/team/bill-weber/ Brandon Apple’s company website: https://www.moldsci.com/

Endotoxin test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/e-endotoxin/?v=3e8d115eb4b3 National Company that administers smoke tests: https://www.americanleakdetection.com/ Green Gobbler product: https://a.co/d/9jTf8vW ERMI Test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/ermi/?v=3e8d115eb4b3 HERTSMI-2 Tests: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/hertsmi-2/?v=3e8d115eb4b3

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated, multi-symptom, multi-system illness - so why wouldn’t there be an annual CIRSx conference for it?! We had a really great time at CIRSx this year, and this episode is our quick summary of all of it. We talked to lots of doctors, heard a ton of great talks, had a lot of fun and are so happy to be part of this wonderful community. We will do more in-depth, helpful-tip-packed episodes in the next few weeks, but for now, we wanted to give you guys the highlight reel from our weekend in Frisco, Texas. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:10 Travel considerations for those with CIRS 2:10 Hotel moldy vibes 4:10 The DFW airport is not OK 5:21 The Proficiency Partner Program 8:15 Christian Navarro-Torres, PhD was recognized 10:57 Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker’s amazing speech 13:50 The impact of meeting members and listeners 16:21 Exciting interviews coming soon 19:57 Why you shouldn’t have FOMO

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS: The CIRSx website: https://www.cirsx.com/ Follow Christian on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cirslab Sign up for Christian’s research-oriented membership: https://www.cirslab.com/ Michael Schrantz’ website: https://environmentalanalytics.net/ Dr. Peg DiTulio’s website:https://regenixhealing.com/meet-the-staff Amber (and Atlas, the mold sniffing dog) on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_mold_free_yogi/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a multi-system, multi-symptom illness that affects many (if not all) of the systems of the body, including the ears, aka your Vestibular System. We are very lucky that Jacie has worked in audiology for many years and is now able to share her wisdom and clinical experience with us to help us understand the paths to heal from tinnitus, hearing loss, balance, and vertigo issues, and the inflammation (or injury) at the root of those problems. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:40 Jacie’s background in Audiology 2:15 Why ears and eyes are so sensitive and reactive 4:15 What is Tinnitus? 6:27 Tinnitus caused by bent and broken hair 8:41 The vestibular system, vertigo, the spins 10:00 Meniere’s Disease - testing methods 10:46 Inflammation is the root cause 11:32 Deplaning Syndrome and Epley Maneuvers 14:17 Hearing loss - the sooner you treat, the better your outcome 17:13 Ear and hearing maintenance/cleaning tips for everyone 19:30 Barbara’s embarrassing story

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Follow Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Follow Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS: Visual Contrast Sensitivity Test:  Article about Texas Roadhouse owner, Kent Taylor’s health struggles: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/03/22/979929592/texas-roadhouse-founder-kent-taylor-dies-after-struggle-with-post-covid-19-sympt MindEar app: https://www.mindear.com/ Meniere’s info and testing procedures: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/menieres-disease/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20374916 Canalith Repositioning Procedure/Epley Maneuver info: https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/canalith-repositioning-procedure/about/pac-20393315 Fun/frustrating Maze Ball game referenced: https://a.co/d/6WIt3UZ DMI Baby Nasal Aspirator, Ear Syringe, Clears Airway & Nasal Passages: https://a.co/d/d1KzgWj

Jacie is a 4+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment, which can be found at TheCIRSGroup.com

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that is most often triggered in patients from water damage. Today, we are going to dig into Jacie’s recent experience dealing with a leak in her home and how she mitigated the damage and came out OK on the other side. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:52 Jacie’s adventure with a leak in her apartment 5:02 What to do if you are a renter 6:50 What to do if you’re a homeowner 7:53 Get three bids for a project 9:24 The steps to take when you discover a leak 11:20 Air filters and fans 12:13 Probiotic spray and  14:40 Preventative measures 17:39 Testing afterwards 19:10 Community support

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS: Michael Schrantz’ website to hire him as your IEP: https://environmentalanalytics.net/ Air Oasis, use code CIRSLAB for a discount (our friend’s discount code, not ours): https://www.airoasis.com/ HomeBiotic spray: https://homebiotic.com/ Under Sink Mat for Kitchen: https://a.co/d/9zS31k4 Leak Alarm: Geevon 4 Pack Water Leak Detectors: https://a.co/d/gmH66Uv Govee WiFi Water Sensor 3 Pack, Water Leak Detector: https://a.co/d/4b2S1Kb Environmental testing Jacie referred to: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/?v=7516fd43adaa

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness that can cause us to dissociate from our own bodies, as a way of self-protection. If you are far enough along with your healing, it can become important to rebuild that connection and tune in to what your body needs and feels, so that you can heal fully and completely. Today, we dive into this topic, covering some of the challenges of mindfulness as well as strategies and methods you may want to try. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:30 Why mindfulness is so difficult 2:25 The power our brains have over our healing 4:55 Limbic Retraining is an on-going practice 5:54 How to tell if you’re out of touch with your body 7:07 Practice: all you need to do is show up 8:13 The best method is the one you can stick to 9:12 Gratitudes 10:55 Play with the time of day 11:40 Journaling or Morning Pages 13:01 Meditation, choosing identities 14:26 ADHD struggles with mindfulness 15:56 Yoga 17:46 Walking 19:51 How to get started with Mindfulness 20:47 Tracking symptoms 23:12 Practice, not perfect

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS: Limbic Retraining episode: https://youtu.be/tTzgIsdYovA?si=S4eS_dytKrK2Yj3r The Joy Plan book: https://a.co/d/gx82x4B The Artist’s Way book: https://a.co/d/1u2x3lo CIRS Meditation practice with Melanie: https://www.instagram.com/meditation4cirs/ Great research on why ADHD makes mindfulness difficult (and how to overcome): https://youtu.be/RFJBwdpSPmU?si=vV__3XUxNc9iYVdP Yoga with Adriene: https://www.youtube.com/@yogawithadriene

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness with a healing journey that is rarely linear. Today, we wanted to acknowledge how tough some complex CIRS cases can be, so you know you’re not alone if your path to healing hasn’t been as straightforward as you wish it was. Also, we hope this episode gives you some ideas on what to do next if you feel like your healing has stalled. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:10 Setbacks from travel re-exposure 2:05 COVID or Spike Protein triggering event 3:00 Staying put to heal 4:18 Limbic Retraining and therapy 5:40 Tick-borne illness and Lyme 8:32 Dental infections, root canal issues 11:00 Leaky Gut, GI issues, H. Pylori, SIBO/SIFO, Candida 13:23 MCAS and Histamine issues 14:10 DHEA, Testosterone supplementation 15:25 Thyroid function support 16:35 Validation for how unfair but also normal the setbacks can be 18:48 As you heal, your immune system comes back online

HELPFUL LINKS: Spike Protein Protocol episode: https://youtu.be/lBQ0xi1tHLo?si=UxJQuff6hQirCS4b Limbic Retraining episode: https://youtu.be/tTzgIsdYovA?si=D-icIBUld7uT1dMw Dr. Peg interview about tick-borne illnesses and Lyme: https://youtu.be/czSjykCdOR4?si=VGnEQ58HvKebVyg1 Work with Judy Cho to fix your gut: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/ Our CIRSx recap that includes Dr. Peg and Christian Navarro-Torres’ talk on MSH and histamines: https://youtu.be/qkL6OuiD2mQ?si=zo4reKuhfJ4gOY-T

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness and the only clinically proven path to healing is through the Shoemaker Protocol. Today, we are tackling the tricky topic of medication and supplement timing. Many CIRS patients, ourselves included, struggle with when to take our binders, when to eat, and when it’s safe to take other meds, so we thought this would be a good topic to dig into. As always, none of this is medical advice. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:48 Supplements and Binder timing can feel overwhelming at first 1:48 Why the binders are so tricky 2:42 Welchol vs CSM and eating fat afterwards 4:40 Thyroid medication and other supplements 5:40 Jacie’s medication/supplement schedule 7:02 Barbara’s medication/supplement schedule 9:45 There are shades of gray - just do your best 11:35 Strategies to implement: timers, reminders, alarms, sticky notes 13:19 Writing meds out like a To Do list 14:10 Phosphatidylcholine tips (and Barbara’s face) 16:04 CSM tips 18:40 Outro

HELPFUL LINKS: Pill organizer: https://a.co/d/4JbZgQk Frother/electric whisk for CSM: https://a.co/d/0YWS0jw

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness caused by mold and other biotoxins that affects 24% of the population and only a handful of doctors even know about it. We are so excited to have one of the greats on today: Dr. Eric Dorninger. Dr. D is a CIRS patient himself - he will share more about his and his family’s health struggles, the reasons he fights for his patients’ health, and the magic of healing from CIRS so we can be happy, healthy, kick ass individuals. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:18 Dr. Eric Dorninger’s backstory 8:35 CIRSx and the Holy Trinity of CIRS Healing 9:18 BlueSkyCBD for mood disorders 10:10 Screening for CIRS 13:04 Story of patient healing from CIRS 14:59 Why your doctor’s staff is so important 20:50 What it takes to work with CIRS patients 23:41 Tinnitus in CIRS patients 24:54 The problem with naming diseases 26:30 Dr. D’s podcast The Vitality Hour 29:44 Patient Aaron Pettigrew’s CIRS story 32:39 CIRSx and the importance of environment professionals 37:00 CIRS patients becoming CIRS practitioners 39:37 What the CIRS community should do to spread awareness 41:57 The problem with urinary mycotoxin tests and azoles 44:20 Endotoxin nuggets of wisdom 49:09 Outro and CIRSx excitement

HELPFUL LINKS: Come to CIRSx! https://www.cirsx.com/ Dr. Dorninger’s practice website: https://drdorninger.com/ Dr. Dorninger on AANP website: https://naturopathic.org/member/drdorninger BlueSkyCBD: https://www.bluesky-cbd.com/ Dr. D’s podcast The Vitality Hour: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwmPARlXz7FIag_6NPS_uBg Vitality Hour on tolerating binders: https://youtu.be/omQL_mZrGRM?si=5DtyoM8E4i9I4qfU Take the CIRSx Courses: https://institute.cirsx.com/

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that occurs in 25% of the population that gets exposed to environmental toxins like mold, red tide, spider or tick bites, and even some vaccines and viruses. Today, we have a special return guest Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, and we are going off script, away from the clinically proven path for healing from CIRS with the Shoemaker Protocol: Exploring the potential for good that comes in the form of pure Nicotine. This may be a controversial topic - but as always, this is not medical advice! We are exploring the possibilities for treatment in the future and hopefully opening the conversation around alternative methods to help the body recover from CIRS. More research is needed, but it’s fun to play “what if.” For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:24 What is Nicotine?

3:00 Overlap between Nicotine and VIP

4:35 Immunomodulation by both Nicotine and VIP

6:03 Nicotine can stimulate VIP receptors

6:51 Cancer risk with Nicotine use

8:30 Smoking/Vaping vs taking Nicotine in pure form

10:05 Long COVID symptom resolution with Nicotine

15:12 Jacie’s experience with Nicotine

17:25 Christian’s experience with Nicotine

22:13 Barbara’s experience with Nicotine

24:32 Nicotine recommendations: NicNac

26:32 Nicotine dosage

28:13 Arginine supplementation with Nicotine

30:40 Cravings and withdrawal concerns

32:40 Potential in the future for CIRS patients

37:15 Outro

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The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS:

VIP Spray episode: https://youtu.be/A3YXtkYMnL0?si=mSSC-nwWrYTjFcQ6

NicNac, use Christian’s discount code CIRSLAB: https://www.nicnac.com/

Come to CIRSx: https://www.cirsx.com/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complex chronic illness that requires a multi-step treatment protocol in order to heal. Today, we dive into taking binders - why take them, what kind to take, why they might cause side effects and what to do to mitigate those side effects. This is not medical advice, always consult your Shoemaker certified practitioner before making changes to your treatment plan. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:22 The Intensification Monster 2:03 What to expect when starting binders 3:58 Why the binders might hurt at first 6:27 Why binder timing matters 8:35 Various binder options: CSM, welchol, okra/beet 11:22 Being in exposure may cause binder side effects 14:58 Low dose VIP Spray 15:26 Lipid Replacement adjustment 15:53 MARCoNs 17:56 Histamine response / MCAS 19:09 Why a Shoemaker certified practitioner is important

HELPFUL LINKS: Environment testing episode: https://youtu.be/CK0rPJE5Gcs?si=eGQrUHaTKzKEAtmD GENIE test episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=hB35VTi1jBX3pkZQ MARCoNs test episode: https://youtu.be/dWJaGdpQKrA?si=mcB8XfJC8cRyKgnz&t=469 Barbara’s MARCoNs testing video: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrjNhakttIk/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Histamine/MCAS episode: https://youtu.be/mKoTPC4tBpQ?si=MZ6RB1BFbLpbKy1R&t=1140 Find a Shoemaker Certified Practitioner: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/list-of-certified-practitioners or a Certified Proficiency Partner: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/surviving-mold-proficiency-partners-diplomates

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that affects a quarter of the population (they just might not know it yet). Today, we tackle the very last step of the only clinically proven path to healing CIRS, Shoemaker Protocol, which is Vasoactive Intestinal Peptides, or VIP Spray. VIP Spray is amazing, in that it helps the brain return to normal after inflammation and atrophy caused by CIRS. We dig into the details on how it works, when to use it, and what to expect when using it. This is not medical advice, talk to your doctor to figure out what’s right for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:00 The purpose of VIP Spray within the Shoemaker Protocol

2:17 What is VIP or Vasoactive Intestinal Peptide

2:28 VIP blood test

4:00 Why get a NeuroQuant before and after VIP Spray

5:18 The cost of VIP Spray

6:00 Titration and administration of VIP Spray

7:40 Considerations for storing VIP Spray

8:20 Cheaper option for VIP Spray

8:58 The potential risks of VIP Spray

10:55 Jacie’s experience with VIP Spray

13:00 Using VIP to better tolerate the binders

15:20 Barbara’s VIP Spray

HELPFUL LINKS:

Genie test episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=WL_s_yXIpEh_f4uj

NeuroQuant episode: https://youtu.be/aQyU51D7O-c?si=YkTgroEapsSFWSGw

Cheaper option to purchase VIP Spray (to mix yourself): https://www.montroserx.com/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness with a complex treatment plan. It can be difficult to attain the level of perfection your doctor may require for you to heal. Today we tackle ways to not let perfect be the enemy of good, and hopefully give you some ideas to “still live your life” while you’re trying to heal. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:03 Perfect vs real life 2:15 Location: dry vs humid climates 6:58 Cleaning: Minimalism vs Maximalism 10:40 Diet: Carnivore vs Standard American diet 12:10 Efficiency of treatment through testing

HELPFUL LINKS: Episode on best way of eating with CIRS: https://youtu.be/jln8kKR5PiE Episode on environment testing: https://youtu.be/CK0rPJE5Gcs

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness that usually requires costly treatment and remediation. Insurance rarely covers it, and because CIRS can cause us to work less (or less optimally) it turns into a bad cycle. This is why we’ve tackled today’s topic: What you can do for as little money as possible now, while you wait to save up for your first appointment with a CIRS literate practitioner. This episode focuses on OTC options and lifestyle changes you can do, not as a replacement for treatment, but as a way to feel as good as you can before starting treatment. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:27 How to get pretty darn sure of your diagnosis cheaply 4:41 How to eat and supplement while you wait to see a doctor 8:00 Remove yourself from exposure: 8:38 How to “cheaply” improve levels of mold, actinos, endos 11:00 Hidden areas toxins can hide: Fridge, Washing Machine, Drains 13:49 Consider moving, and environment testing 14:38 Lyme 15:57 COVID and vaccines 19:11 Histamine issues and MCAS 19:57 Things to remove: IUDs, birth control, Implants, botox 21:58 Things to add to your life: Sun, movement, sleep

HELPFUL LINKS: Two options for taking the VCS test: https://www.vcstest.com/ https://www.survivingmold.com/resources-for-patients/diagnosis/visual-contrast-sensitivity-vcs Symptom clusters on third slide here: https://www.instagram.com/p/C2rhdMUMjwr/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== History of exposure options on first page: https://www.google.com/url?client=internal-element-cse&cx=a58887261996f4f05&q=https://www.survivingmold.com/docs/KJohnson_CIRS_ESSAY.PDF&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjwqd-oj9mEAxVsBEQIHSbmCQQQFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2euIEAyOFCdRuaLQcUT6bG Omaprem supplements: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/inflammation/omaprem-spm-fatty-acids Envirobiomics test most often recommended by CIRS doctors: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/?v=7516fd43adaa Dr. Peg DeTulio, Lyme specialist: https://regenixhealing.com/home-page COVID episode: https://youtu.be/lBQ0xi1tHLo?si=-Iw1G6AcAtevp6uz Surviving Mold write up COVID: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/dr.-shoemaker-essays/new-research-article FLCCC protocol: https://covid19criticalcare.com

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is often caused by environmentally based biotoxins like mold, bacteria, and sewage. Less talked about are the co-infections that might reside IN you, like Lyme, dental infections, IUDs, implants, some vaccinations, and now the newest one: COVID-19 as well as the vaccine for COVID. Today, we dig into Jacie’s experience with vaccine and COVID exposure and the protocol she had to do on top of the Shoemaker Protocol to fully heal from CIRS. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro

1:00 Jacie and Barbara’s experience with COVID

3:15 Disclaimer

3:36 Surviving Mold has identified COVID as a biotoxin

4:37 Jacie’s exposure to the COVID vaccine

6:31 Spike Protein Damage Protocols

8:13 CIRS Co-Infections

11:39 TheCIRSGroup.com member experience

HELPFUL LINKS:

SurvingMold.com article/study on COVID: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/dr.-shoemaker-essays/new-research-article

FLCCC Alliance protocol: https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/I-RECOVER-Post-Vaccine-2023-07-24.pdf

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that attacks multiple systems in the body, including the metabolism of energy and digestion of food. The fun side effects can include stubborn weight gain, histamine issues, GI issues, fatigue, and cognitive issues from lack of energy. Today, we’ll dig into why that is and ways of eating you may want to try to help yourself along this complicated healing journey. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:52 Our qualifications 2:45 Our experience with CIRS and carnivore 4:09 Carnivoring harder is not the answer 6:32 Carnivore as a band-aid 8:04 How to eat for CIRS 8:40 Why do an elimination diet 10:15 Hypometabolism and difficulty with ketosis 11:50 GI Issues: why digestive enzymes, butyrate don’t always work 15:01 Low-Amylose, low-mold, AIP diets lead to carnivore 17:07 Why carnivore/keto may not always work for CIRS 21:05 Eat the meat you like, can afford, and makes you feel your best 22:00 How to experiment with carbs 23:10 Weight loss difficulty with CIRS 25:27 Muscle gain difficulty with CIRS 26:33 Leptin resistance 28:20 Hypometabolism and gluconeogenesis 29:19 Mobilizing fat stores can cause worsening symptoms

HELPFUL LINKS: Resource from Dr. Shoemaker on ways to eat to support healing on this protocol: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/community/week-of-may-8-2023

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a really complex, confusing illness with a treatment protocol to match. Today, we celebrate FIFTY EPISODES of TheCIRSGroup.com podcast. To celebrate, we offer a retrospective of how far CIRS has come even in the short time we’ve known about it (two years) and where we see it going from here. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:50 When we were first diagnosed vs now

3:50 Judy Cho’s pivotal role in CIRS awareness

5:00 Jordan Peterson interview w/Dr. Shoemaker and Dr. McMahon

7:29 Growing pains in the CIRS space

8:54 CIRSx conference

12:08 TheCIRSGroup.com - then and now

HELPFUL LINKS:

Judy Cho’s website: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/

Judy’s most impactful interview for CIRS awareness: https://youtu.be/-xt-0yJBGTs?si=euJXvOUQ5EcCmPGY

Jordan Peterson interview with Dr. Shoemaker and Dr. McMahon: https://youtu.be/LGG7om1hHcU?si=vX2lnk4eMg8oM1n6

CIRSx recap episodes (playlist): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtFmHRLGI2wHK62Iq4qOQqkxAwE9lkdpZ

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is best treated by the Shoemaker Protocol, but there are supportive therapies that can “help the process of healing along” and one such practice is mindfulness meditation. We are joined today by Melanie Pensak to talk more about this fascinating topic. Melanie is a certified speech-language pathologist and mindfulness teacher, Shoemaker Proficiency Partner, the host of The Heart of CIRS podcast, and we are excited today to have her on to explore the topic of meditation. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

HELPFUL LINKS:

Melanie’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/meditation4cirs/

Melanie's Practice Portal Group: https://thepracticeportal.circle.so

The Heart of CIRS Podcast: https://theheartofcirs.buzzsprout.com/

#CIRSAlly Video: https://youtu.be/nZGAe_AFjQk?si=X9_GUUfmBxrkKBwt 

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a really complex, confusing illness with a treatment protocol to match. Today, we are tackling a viewer request: other exposure sources besides homes. We’ll talk about what to do if you suspect one of these sources might be keeping you sick: your workplace, gym, salon, roommates, loved ones, and even your pets! For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:36 The first step of the Shoemaker Protocol: remove exposure 1:29 Workplace exposure 3:40 Changing jobs or starting a business as an option 5:56 Vehicle exposure 8:20 Errands, hobbies, salons, gyms 11:18 Other people: roommates, spouses, family, friends 13:17 Pets, animals

HELPFUL LINKS (NOT affiliate!): ZeroRez for car and carpet cleaning: https://www.zerorez.com/ Defense soap: https://a.co/d/gJj76k4 Defense soap wipes: https://a.co/d/gAjtCp8 Tea Tree wipes: https://a.co/d/3xrcotb Wipes for dogs: https://a.co/d/8y6uZj8 Study on Staph and dogs: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2870875/ Episode we did on dogs w/CIRS: https://youtu.be/6e_IznfWDec?si=n1gj6jNkl4Bf1GIU Shoemaker’s advice on treatment of dogs: https://www.survivingmold.com/physicians/dashboard/previous-membership-section-questions-and-answers

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is taxing on your body, mind, and spirit. To fully heal from this chronic condition, you need to attack it on all fronts. Today, we’re tackling the mind: Limbic retraining, or rewiring your brain, can actually reduce symptoms and get your mind out of fight or flight and into a relaxed state, primed for healing and wellness. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:43 Jacie’s passion for limbic retraining 3:05 Permission to wait until you’re ready 3:53 Limbic retraining is part of a holistic approach 4:56 What is Limbic Retraining? 8:14 Things that limbic retraining can improve: 8:30 Mood regulation 8:50 Fearing the gene or the biotoxins 9:59 Believe you can heal, desire to heal 10:44 Improving histamine responses 11:10 Get a better baseline, resilience 11:50 Ways of implementing limbic retraining

HELPFUL LINKS: The Brain That Changes Itself: Stories of Personal Triumph from the Frontiers of Brain Science: https://a.co/d/gSN9SYk DNRS: https://retrainingthebrain.com/ Gupta: https://guptaprogram.com/ Wired4Healing, where Jacie leads classes: https://wired4healing.com/ Nutrition with Judy’s Mind Body program: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/nwj-mind-body-program The Joy Plan by Kaia Roman: https://a.co/d/gn5Nyg2 Join The CIRS Group for limbic retraining support: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness but thankfully certain prescription medications can actually help you heal from it. The medications we discuss today are all used by various Shoemaker certified practitioners for their patients with CIRS. If you are interested in any of these medications, check with your practitioner to see if it might work for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:25 Biotoxin Binders: Cholestyramine, Welchol 4:53 Consideration for binder reactivity, and non-prescription option 6:00 MARCoNs treatments: BEG, EDTA, Xlear, Silver 8:46 MARCoNs spray for treatment in dogs 10:54 VIP spray 14:35 Low Dose Naltrexone for pain and low mood 16:11 Cromolyn for MCAS or histamine issues

HELPFUL LINKS (not affiliate!): Mycobind: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/immune-support/mycobind Xlear: https://a.co/d/gosaTiV Xlear with Coptis: https://waldenfarmacy.com/product/coptis-nasal-spray/ Argentyn 23: https://a.co/d/ejtPaGN ACS spray: https://a.co/d/3sEVpSw Dogs and CIRS episode: https://youtu.be/6e_IznfWDec?si=dmiX7m76pC0ZhRje GENIE episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=FsbE1cddXvBoFZds

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

This one hurts, guys. But it’s important. CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can be a painful, isolating, debilitating illness. Today, we’re sharing stories our members allowed us to bring to you so you might understand CIRS a little better, or at least find empathy in your heart for those that suffer with it. And if you have CIRS, then I hope this validates your experience, even if no one in your life does. Despite the pain and sadness, we hope this is a message of hope for healing. It will get better, healing is possible. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com.

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

3:00 Tobey

3:57 Chad

4:28 Rosie

5:16 Missy

6:21 Gabriella

6:42 Gerald

7:04 Gloriana

8:15 Chike

9:05 Natascha

9:43 Kimberly

10:30 CIRS Mom

11:53 Chase

12:27 Ariel

13:27 Dorothy

13:42 Terrance

14:27 Tiffany

14:46 Kirk

15:40 Alyssa

16:44 Wrap up

For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a deeply impactful illness. It has changed us, but we think for the better. Today we’re exploring what having and healing from CIRS has done to our mindsets, relationships, and goals. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

0:46 Forced focus on health and healthy relationships

2:42 CIRS re-prioritized the most important things

4:20 Lifestyle changes to support healing

6:40 Developing empathy for invisible illness

9:40 Ready for opportunities - willing to sacrifice

11:56 Doing hard things doesn’t mean they aren’t hard

13:25 Seeing CIRS everywhere

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness, but the first and most important step towards healing is ensuring you have a clean environment, free from mold and other biotoxins. Today, we’re tackling why this is so important and how to test to be sure your home and workplaces are safe for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 01:49 Biotoxins: Mycotoxins, Endotoxins, Actinos 02:49 Why test your current environment 03:48 Why a clean environment is important for your healing 06:02 Environment tests you can do yourself 07:18 Where you should test: home and work 07:46 Why use the #7 test 08:49 GENIE testing 10:22 Addressing all biotoxins is important 11:22 How to do the Envirobiomics test 16:20 Trash bag hack 17:59 Getting refunds on tests you can’t use or don’t use 21:00 Interpretation of your test results 22:53 Why we don’t do affiliate codes

HELPFUL LINKS: Previous episodes on safe environments and testing: CIRSx recap on safe environments: https://youtu.be/MXV3S3oL22M?si=1l6P0p7XWA2Njn7Z CIRSx recap on remediation: https://youtu.be/mREuhpzHUV4?si=tOhV-0lbJF2G4MKp What are Actinos? https://youtu.be/q-KW5ZXUHVM?si=P3YVZRZcF0igUUqQ Envirobiomics: https://www.envirobiomics.com/ #7 test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/?v=7516fd43adaa GENIE episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=alS0JfldcxylTfu7 Mold testing Reel: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ci0TlRDp3_n/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness, and it can be hard to get your family and friends on board with it. Today we’re tackling how to deal with both unsupportive and supportive relationships, and what that can mean for your healing. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:59 Developing empathy from this illness 3:10 Non-supportive relationships 3:59 Barbara’s story of building emotional walls 7:44 Establishing boundaries - why and how 13:00 Toxic Positivity 15:15 Benefits of couples therapy 21:00 Getting that support from The CIRS Group

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness. Thankfully, there are specific blood markers you can test to confirm whether or not you are suffering from this illness. Today, we’re going to take you through each of these blood markers and what they mean when they’re out of range. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:33 Why these blood markers matter 2:15 MMP9 4:32 VEGF 8:03 TGF-b1 10:49 MSH 17:03 C4A and C3A 18:30 Tips about getting your blood drawn

Helpful Links: Hoffman Center resource for what the blood markers mean, how it manifests in your body and proper treatment: https://hoffmancentre.com/chronic-inflammatory-response-syndrome-cirs-evaluation-and-treatment/ Biotoxin Pathway: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cz4B3gKpVIn/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness. Thankfully, the folks at ProgeneDX have created an in-depth and new test to take that can actually measure the up and down regulation of your genes as a result of CIRS, and even identifies the biotoxins responsible for the inflammation and symptoms you’re experiencing. This can be a great tool for people to get specific about their type of exposure and better tailor their treatment plan. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

2:50 The purpose of the GENIE test and when to do it

5:10 How much does the GENIE cost

6:26 The GENIE test is a snapshot in time

7:41 How the GENIE can help you focus your remediation efforts

8:30 Concerns around the GENIE test interpretation

11:10 GENIE test vs NeuroQuant

12:08 Why Barbara got the GENIE test

13:13 How to get the GENIE test

19:48 Jacie’s great summary of all the stuff Barbara said

22:12 Extra tips for dealing with this test

Info on the GENIE test: https://www.progenedx.com/

Dry Ice locator: https://dryicedirectory.com/

(but I bet most big chain grocery stores have them, just call ahead or stop by and ask)

Barbara’s reel for getting the GENIE test done: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy6Blq1xOmF/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is something both Barbara and Jacie have been struggling with for over a year. Since their diagnoses in April of 2022, a lot has happened! Barbara will be sharing her triumphs and setbacks as she now explores endotoxin elimination as the missing piece to healing her gut. Jacie talks about resolving her autoimmune flares, re-exposure while traveling, and how she has reached the final step of the protocol, VIP spray. Spoiler alert: she has already experienced complete symptom resolution with the Shoemaker Protocol! We’re excited to share this example of proof that the protocol works. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:00 Barbara’s CIRS health backstory 2:09 GI issues and MARCoNs persisted, MSH wasn’t high enough 3:25 New practitioner, taking the GENIE test 4:58 Endotoxins vs other biotoxins 6:05 Why get the GENIE test, and how to clean for Endos 7:09 Barbara’s plan 7:20 Las Vegas is not okay PSA 9:05 Barbara’s update wrap up 9:57 Why Barbara is delaying VIP spray 11:45 Jacie’s takeaway from Barbara’s health journey 12:45 Jacie’s CIRS health backstory 13:40 Jacie’s biggest lever for healing - removing exposure 15:09 Autoimmune flare: Uveitis, plus travel 16:48 Long COVID or vax injury, spike protein damage protocol 17:59 Jacie’s experience with VIP spray (Vasoactive Intestinal Peptide) 19:00 Re-exposure, switching providers, and next steps 21:10 Why NueroQuant may help with VIP treatment 21:34 Resiliency and symptom resolution even before VIP 22:16 Joint and eye damage slowly reversing 25:05 Jacie’s mental and physical state in 2022 vs now 26:13 Jacie’s takeaway: your body wants to heal 27:19 Genesis 50:20

Barbara’s first health update: https://youtu.be/EG5aovrSSYw Jacie’s first health update: https://youtu.be/tHeNVVzRyTA Info on the GENIE test: https://www.progenedx.com/ IEP that Barbara used: https://environmentalanalytics.net/ Spike Protein Damage Protocol: https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/I-RECOVER-Post-Vaccine-2023-07-24.pdf

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, has its roots in the BIBLE. Did you know? Today we discuss fun historic and biblical health and mold references to give us some context for why we may have evolved with these really fun, CIRSy genes. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:50 How did we evolve to have crappy genes? 1:40 Protective genes during black plague may now cause autoimmunity 3:55 Genes have a purpose 4:39 The Biblical mold reference 7:55 The emphasis on mold to keep yourselves “clean” 9:20 Our bodies want to heal

HELPFUL LINKS: The Harvard study Jacie found: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/genes-protective-during-the-black-death-may-now-be-increasing-autoimmune-disorders-202212012859 The Biblical passage Jacie reads: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2014%3A33-53&version=NIV

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness of inflammation - and a lot of the symptoms of PMS, PMDD, periods, cramps, etc. are the result of inflammation too. When they get together at that time of the month, things can get rough. Today we wanted to take a closer look at why that is, and what you can do to deal with those symptoms better as you continue to heal. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

The period tracking app Jacie and Barbara both use, not an affiliate link: https://flo.health/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is your body’s immune system going haywire over some biotoxins it’s not able to eliminate. This havoc can really damage your body - and unfortunately, peeing on a stick (or in a cup) is probably not going to help you chill out your immune system and heal all the downstream effects. We want to save you time and money by explaining why the bad advice out there for “mold illness” and “mold detoxing” is bad, and why other advice is good, so we hope you enjoy and learn from today’s episode. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer  2:16 Mycotoxin Urine Analysis Tests 4:00 Test bloodmarkers instead 5:05 Jacie’s rant about what actually is going on with CIRS 7:47 Binders: charge matters 9:42 Removing yourself from exposure - cleaning matters 18:35 Even the doctors are still learning

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

It’s that time again! Barbara and Jacie take your CIRS questions live! CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a multi-symptom, multi-system illness that can wreck havoc on your health. Today we are doing a live Q&A to let people ask us their most pressing questions about CIRS, CIRS treatment, management of symptoms, and anything moldy. We cover diet, brain scans, MCAS, POTS, GAPS, emotional trauma, Lyme, and more!

To join our online support community, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:52 Welcome to The CIRS Group Fall 2023 Webinar 1:25 What is The CIRS Group? 2:50 Why air samples are not sufficient for CIRS patients 4:40 Best way to time taking supplements and binders 7:00 When to take the VCS test 9:10 Treating Lyme or other exposures with CIRS treatment 11:15 Elhers Danlos Syndrome 12:00 MCAS or Mast Cell Activation Syndrome 15:33 NueroQuant and memory loss 18:22 How long it took Jacie and Barbara to feel better 21:53 Peripheral Neuropathy - why it happens and tips for management 24:30 Thyroid medications and binder timing 25:02 Cromolyn Sodium for MCAS 25:54 How to get a NeuroQuant MRI 27:05 International TCG members and resources 28:00 How to order a NeuroQuant 28:36 Psyllium husk vs okra and beet binders 29:35 What can you do now while waiting to start treatment 32:15 Taking okra or beet supplements in the meantime 33:17 POTS: Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome 34:37 Carbs and their potential role in managing CIRS 36:30 GAPS diet 37:38 Breaking the cycle: Pushing and Crashing 41:27 Benefits of processing emotional trauma 44:47 Advice managing co-infections and autoimmune 47:00 Working with Nutrition with Judy 51:38 Oxalate concerns 52:35 Concerns around colonoscopies

LINKS Surviving Mold Indoor Environment Testing https://www.survivingmold.com/docs/Inside_Indoor_Air_Quality.PDF NeuroQuant info at Survivingmold.com: https://www.survivingmold.com/resources-for-patients/diagnosis/neuroquant International practitioners and resources: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/international-practitioners Work with Nutrition with Judy: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, often manifests as cognitive difficulties and decline - and those issues can feel a lot like ADD / ADHD. Many people who have CIRS may have symptoms that mimic ADHD, and some may actually have both. We wanted to dig into what those similarities and differences are, tips on symptom management and healing, and get a better idea of what’s going on in the brain with either of these conditions. We do hop around a lot in this episode - Barbara takes full responsibility for her ADHD taking us on a bit of a ride. :) For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer  0:55 Christian’s intro and his upcoming workshops 2:40 How Barbara found out she had ADHD 3:33 What is ADHD? 7:43 Impulsivity in decision making and finances 8:20 Struggles with goals, prioritizing, and planning 8:50 Emotional dysregulation 9:02 Hyperfocus and lack of focus control and why 11:45 Why you may have problems with emotions 12:42 Quick definition of comorbidities 14:04 How ADHD and CIRS overlap 15:40 What is Working Memory? 17:34 How CIRS may exacerbate ADHD symptoms 18:40 Fun examples of how our brains are different 20:19 Research on ADHD and CIRS 21:25 Prevalence of ADHD and CIRS, and dangers of being undiagnosed 23:10 How healing from CIRS might reveal ADHD 24:20 What parts of the brain are affected 28:05 How ADHD and CIRS affect the brain 29:40 Balance and movement as ADHD treatment 32:57 The CIRS and ADHD overlap and what it might mean 34:17 How to get diagnosed for ADHD 35:05 Clinical vs subclinical ADHD 36:13 Is ADHD just CIRS? 38:30 How to live with ADHD 43:27 Possible thyroid dysfunction with ADHD 44:19 More tips for managing ADHD

Christian’s account CIRSlab on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cirslab/ Sign up for Christian’s CIRS newsletter: https://us12.list-manage.com/contact-form?u=81c43ceaa0a2d5b619dcbd6cf&form_id=7c935313230b949627a90f75fcf161e3

Recommended resources for ADHD: TedxTalk Barbara referenced about life with ADHD: https://youtu.be/JiwZQNYlGQI?si=H2N7uUz1kB_ZgIh5 Online test to find out if you have ADHD (similar to the one Barbara took): https://add.org/adhd-test/ Actual questionnaire Barbara filled out with her psychiatrist: https://add.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/adhd-questionnaire-ASRS111.pdf Delivered from Distraction book: https://a.co/d/8L9my3D ADHD 2.0 book: https://a.co/d/fhnlQdJ How To ADHD YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@HowtoADHD Russell Barkley, PhD YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@russellbarkleyphd2023 TimeTimer: https://www.timetimer.com/pages/adhd

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Can you live a normal life with CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, aka Mold Illness? Even a life that includes travel, spending time with family, visiting friends, and going out to eat? We think you can! But there are tools, tips, tricks, and things to consider -  and we try to dig into as many as possible in this episode. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro 0:43 Healing for the first time vs re-exposure 2:15 Disclaimer: this is not medical advice 2:37 Making memories vs risking exposure 4:38 Develop your spidey senses after you heal 6:30 Shout out to Wild Pastures in Boulder, CO 7:50 Different symptoms can reappear with exposures 8:56 Re-exposure during the protocol is more painful than after 10:56 Travel tips with CIRS 12:10 Florida is not ok, and head buzzing is weird 14:13 We hope this helps you let go and enjoy yourself 15:15 CIRS doctors might hate us right now 16:08 The decision you make now can be temporary

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, aka Mold Illness, can be hard to deal with. This is true for any chronic or autoimmune based illness. But you don’t need to do it alone! Today we’re talking about the benefits of community: connection, safe space to speak freely, advice and suggestions, direction towards resources - so many things!

Over at the CIRS Group, we are planning on adding quite a bit of awesome this month: - Not one, but TWO group calls per month - A monthly live class + Q&A on an aspect of CIRS (recording and replay available to members only) - Additional new content - extended interviews and more controversial topics not safe for YouTube or Instagram

We definitely think you should join us. That said, we’re not the only group in town - we talk about a couple of our favorites and encourage you to find the one that is right for you (or two, or three!). Helpful links below. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro 0:31 Loneliness as an indicator for health decline 1:23 The ease of communication with people who get it 4:00 Using others’ anecdotal stories for your own benefit 5:10 Finding hope in others’ stories of healing 6:22 The CIRS Group now offers classes 7:00 Other benefits: Questions, sharing wins, group calls, resources 7:54 Find a community that resonates with you, mix and match flavors 10:05 Nutrition with Judy, Judy Cho’s CIRS Support Group 13:38 Jenny Johnson’s CIRS Support Group 16:22 Some doctors have groups too 17:01 Let us know our ice cream flavors

Join Barbara and Jacie’s TheCIRSGroup.com support group: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/ Join the NutritionwithJudy.com CIRS support group: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/nwj-client/cirs-group-support Join Jenny Johnson’s CIRS Healing Collective support group: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/cirs-healing-collective Or Jenny's 12 week program: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/equipped-to-overcome-cirs

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re talking with Olivia Farabaugh about CIRS Fest 2023, her journey with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, aka Mold Illness, the CIRS Support Fund she co-founded with Malachi’s Message. Lots of great links below, please check them out to support Olivia’s amazing work.

CIRS Fest 2023 is on October 29th at 12:30pm in Dallastown, PA. Tickets are only $5! https://malachismessage.org/cirs-fest-2023/ for more info.

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro 1:04 Why Olivia started the CIRS Support Fund 3:52 CIRS Fest 2023 info 5:37 Hope Lives Here 7:05 The diagnosis is a path forward 8:30 The CIRS Support Fund Mission 9:50 How to support the CIRS Support Fund 11:00 How to support CIRS Fest 2023 12:38 Olivia’s music and mission 15:55 How Olivia helped Jacie and Barbara 17:25 The Silver Lining of CIRS 19:10 How to follow Olivia Farabaugh

HELPFUL LINKS: Donate to the CIRS Support Fund: https://malachismessage.org/cirs-support-fund/ CIRS Fest 2023: https://malachismessage.org/cirs-fest-2023/ Olivia’s website: https://oliviafarabaugh.com/ Follow Olivia on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oliviafarabaughofficial Follow Olivia on Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Farabaughmusic Follow Olivia on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@oliviafarabaugh Olivia’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@OliviaFarabaugh Learn about Olivia’s health journey on the Nutrition with Judy podcast: https://youtu.be/Y5Be4DgmMDI?si=atoCS3gGrs-gYvy6

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Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re very excited to have Dr. Alan Gruning on our podcast. We get to ask him some follow ups to his interview with Judy Cho (see links below to watch that interview), and dig deeper on his recommendations for doing the Shoemaker Protocol on a budget. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 00:00 Intro 01:49 Where to find Dr. Gruning 04:25 Remediation on a budget 10:31 Finding/creating a safe space to live 19:30 Lyme and Long Covid protocol 24:00 Fixing issues adjacent to CIRS 26:30 CIRS, trauma, and total mind-body healing 28:34 Treating CIRS on a budget - bloodwork and binders 32:57 VIP on a budget and alternatives 37:05 Dr. Gruning's CIRS charity work and Christian CIRS Network

Dr. Gruning’s wonderful interview with Nutrition with Judy: https://youtu.be/28_b7nLwX4U?si=9gadY-Y8AHx5aYkW Dr. Gruning’s website: https://fibromyalgiafoprtmyers.com His free clinic site where you can donate: https://christianmedicalministries.org The Christian CIRS Network: https://cirsnetwork.com

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re doing one more CIRSx recap, and this time we are covering the Shoemaker Protocol - the only treatment clinically proven to heal Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, or CIRS. We heard some fantastic talks on this topic, and we’re excited to share. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 00:00 Intro 01:09 Screening for CIRS - Dr. Eric Dorninger, ND, LAc  07:00 The Anti-Inflammatory Benefit of the Carnivore Diet - Judy Cho 12:50 The Immunomodulatory Effects of Camel Milk for CIRS Patients with ASD - Jodie Dashore, PhD, OTD, MSc 14:56 Coagulation CIRS and GENIE - James Ryan, PhD 18:32 Understanding Immune Response Genetics - An HLA Deeper Dive - Scott McMahon, MD 21:49 Osteopathy as an Adjunct Therapy for Those with CIRS - April Vukelic, DO, IFMCP 26:18 TheCIRSGroup.com

Helpful links: Dr. Eric Dorninger’s website: https://drdorninger.com/ Judy Cho’s website: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/ Dr. Jodie Dashore’s website: https://bionexushealth.com/ Dr. Jim Ryan’s website: https://www.progenedx.com/ Dr. Scott McMahon’s website: https://oasisnm.com/ Dr. April Vukelic’s website: https://www.recoverfrommold.com/ Find an osteopath: https://www.academyofosteopathy.org/find-omm#/ The Art and Science of CIRS: https://a.co/d/5unsa7X Physician’s guide to understanding and treating biotoxin illness: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/works-citing-dr.-shoemaker/a-physicians-guide-to-biotoxin-illness

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com We are continuing our CIRSx conference recap today, this time specifically deep diving on all the talks given around remediation! Remaining in exposure is one of the biggest hurdles for people trying to heal from CIRS when caused by mold, so today we cover some great tips and details we learned at CIRSx from the experts. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 00:00 Intro 01:09 Why Buildings Fail to Protect Our Health by Paula Baker LaPorte 01:30 Effect of codes, regulations and US home building practices  02:28 Three major causes for issues in the home 03:38 Six reasons homes are mold-prone 04:38 Four major sources of mold 06:55 The southeast US is challenging, but no place is perfect 07:50 Protocol for home building 09:38 How to mitigate mold during the build process 12:00 Plumbing damage prevention 13:45 Features to include in your home build 14:37 Building biology - impact on mental health 17:17 My Very Own Sirewall by Ming Dooley 17:55 DIY vs Hiring help 20:04 Benefits of sirewall as a building material 20:51 House Hunting with CIRS Jennifer Schrantz  22:05 Tucson love 23:10 Jennifer is a resource for references for CIRS-conscious realtors 23:33 Inspections 25:55 How to refine your home search 27:35 Rapid fire tips for your home search 31:18 How to find a great realtor 32:00 Outro

Our CIRSx recap part one: https://youtu.be/-Dv1e_4Cm0Q?si=UbJnxulDfKYa9BUh Part two: https://youtu.be/vQdkxCV1FNs?si=ArSwefv8pqMKyPIy CIRSx recap on remediation: https://youtu.be/mREuhpzHUV4?si=C5pnERIgQxE1TUFr Prescriptions for a Healthy House, 4th Edition: A Practical Guide for Architects, Builders and Homeowners by Paula Baker-Laporte, John C Banta: https://a.co/d/45updCm Example of a water leak detector (w/wifi): https://a.co/d/gKlBEJc Example of a water shut off valve (w/wifi): https://a.co/d/cAY2sDI Example of a water heater drain pan: https://a.co/d/ejDpJGv Example of a dishwasher appliance liner: https://a.co/d/gyJjFf2 Example of under sink liner: https://a.co/d/jbcxHZk Ming Dooley on SurvivingMold.com: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/physician-referral-information/dr-ming-dooley Sirewall: https://sirewall.com/ Jennifer Schrantz’ website: http://jennifertucson.com/ IEP Radio: Episode 25, Buying a Home with Jennifer Schrantz: https://youtu.be/9B-rmeZH2Ws?si=4Uc1HNrXpf8Z_OOj Episode 9, Home Inspection Basics and things to consider when renting with Dr. Eric Dorninger: https://youtu.be/F1TCRQEYajs?si=jV251Go_3OnE6RPk

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is best treated by the Shoemaker Protocol, but there are supportive therapies that can “help the process of healing along” and one such practice is breathwork. We are joined today by Morgan Glodowski to talk more about this fascinating topic. Morgan is a multi-modality integrative health practitioner and owner of Moksha Embodied, where she utilizes functional labs, holistic protocols and somatic healing practices to help individuals get to the root of their symptoms and rewire their subconscious to break the mold of their condition. As an overcomer of CIRS and biotoxin illness herself, Morgan left her nursing career, and is now on a mission to inspire and educate patients and practitioners on the power of breathwork - a missing modality in medicine and mold recovery. Morgan is trauma-informed and trained in transformational breathwork and Kundalini yoga, specifically. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:44 How Morgan got into the CIRS world 3:37 How breathwork supports CIRS recovery 4:51 How this Kriya helps the body endogenously release DMT 6:19 The research behind the benefits of this Kriya practice 8:42 Who can benefit from breathwork 10:23 What you can expect from a breathwork session with Morgan 13:56 What the resistance can mean 15:51 How to work with Morgan

HELPFUL LINKS: Morgan’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/morganeglodowski/ Morgan’s Website: http://mokshaembodied.com/ Join the group program waitlist: https://forms.gle/eY4qmRr2is7GPoXe9 Morgan’s CIRSx courses: https://institute.cirsx.com/p/breathwork-101-a-missing-modality-in-medicine-and-mold-recovery https://institute.cirsx.com/p/breathwork-a-missing-modality-in-medicine-and-mold-recovery

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

We are continuing our CIRSx conference recap today, this time specifically deep diving on all the talks given around remediation! Remaining in exposure is one of the biggest hurdles for people trying to heal from CIRS when caused by mold, so today we cover some great tips and details we learned at CIRSx from the experts. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 00:00 Intro    02:21 A protocol for remediation: CIRSx Work Plan: Cindy Edwards 3:20 Case study of how remediation can go poorly and how to do it right 5:40 Steps of Cindy’s protocol 7:58 Why cutting corners may not be the right move 10:06 NextGen Sequencing: More than Actinos: David Lark 10:39 Why actinos cleaning is a good idea 13:26 GENIE Test 14:32 Slaying Water Damage Dragons - A Patient Experience with WDB: Chris Foth and Aaron Pettigrew 15:20 Why project managers may be needed for CIRS treatment 16:34 In Pursuit of Underlying Causes of Contaminated Buildings: Brandon Apple 18:46 Why remediation is an investigation 19:35 Why you shouldn’t just rely on ERMI or HERTSMI-2 scores 21:23  Using Peptide Bonds and Proteins to Monitor Cleanliness: John Banta 23:06 Even Holy Water Supports Mold: Michael Schrantz and Bill Weber 25:00 IEPs: Columbo for water 28:50 Dust Mites: So Uncontroversial, it's Mostly Forgotten Carl Grimes 31:27 Historical vs Modern Dust Greg Weatherman 32:50 Controversy over horizontal or vertical collection for testing 33:54 Barbara's Remediation Takeaways: Rot vs decay for insurance 34:52 OSB sucks, Plywood is better 35:27 Stone materials need to weep 36:16 Endotoxins: homesteading is a risk 37:05 Clean, clean, clean and clean some more

Mold Illness: Surviving and Thriving by Cindy Edwards, et al.: https://a.co/d/5MHn4PN or official website: http://survivingandthrivingbook.com/ Info on the GENIE test: https://www.progenedx.com/how-does-this-help Places to look for an IEP, though these certs do not guarantee their aptitude: International Society for Environmentally Acquired Illness: https://iseai.org/ American Council for Accredited Certification: https://www.acac.org/ Brandon Apple’s website: https://www.moldsci.com/ John Banta’s website: https://www.johncbanta.com/ Michael Schrantz’s website: https://environmentalanalytics.net/about-us/ Bill Weber’s contact info: https://avelar.net/articles_publications/team/bill-weber/ Carl Grimes’ published research on dust mites: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24267359/ Greg Weatherman’s website: http://www.aerobiological.com/

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

We attended CIRSx 2023 and learned a ton of new info and are bringing you the highlights today! We had to split up the whole CIRSx weekend into two parts, and here is part two! For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 00:00 Intro 00:58 Even Holy Water Supports Mold - Mike Schrantz and Bill Weber 03:13 Erythromelalgia and Peripheral Hypoperfusion - Dr. Lysander Jim 04:04 Stop Coronary Disease: Live Longer, Live Better - Dr. Bill Blanchett 05:26 Dust Mites: So Uncontroversial It's Almost Forgotten - Carl Grimes 07:03 Cyanobacterial Toxins as a Risk Factor for Neurodegeneration - Dr. Elijah Stommel 08:18 Coagulation and GENIE - Dr. James Ryan 09:24 Foundations Training with Jesse Salas and Dr. Goodman  10:51 Understanding Immune Response Genetics: Deeper Dive into HLA - Dr. Scott McMahon 11:52 Historical vs Modern Dust - Greg Weatherman 12:35 Osteopathy as an Adjunct Therapy for Those with CIRS - Dr. April Vukelic 14:42 Holy Water Pt 2 - Mike Schrantz and Bill Weber 15:10 House Hunting with CIRS - Jennifer Schrantz 17:09 Benzo Induced Neurologic Dysfunction - Dr. Christy Huff 19:21 Outro

CIRSx website: https://www.cirsx.com/2023-cirsx-annual-conference

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

We attended CIRSx 2023 and learned a ton of new info and are bringing you the highlights today! We had to split up the whole CIRSx weekend into two parts, so here is part one!  For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 00:00 Intro 00:30 CIRSx overall impressions 04:00 Screening for CIRS  - Dr. Eric Dorninger 07:05 Why Buildings Fail to Protect our Health - Paula Baker La Porte 08:17 My Very Own Sirewall - Ming Dooley 10:19 CIRSx Workplan - Cindy Edwards 11:43 The Anti-Inflammatory Benefit of the Carnivore Diet - Judy Cho 13:45 NextGen Sequencing: More than Actinos - David Lark 16:45 The Immunomodulatory Effects of Camel Milk for CIRS Patients with ASD - Dr. Jodie Dashore 19:30 New Neurological Applications of GENIE, Neuroquant, and ALS - Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker 20:25 An Integrative Approach to Parkinson's - Dr. Laurie Mischley 24:38 Slaying Water Damage Dragons: A Patient Experience - Chris Foth and Aaron Pettigrew 27:30 In Pursuit of Underlying Causes of Contaminated Buildings - Brandon Apple 29:40 Using Peptide Bonds and Proteins to Monitor Cleanliness - John Banta 30:31 Join us next week for Part 2!

CIRSx website: https://www.cirsx.com/2023-cirsx-annual-conference

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re talking about CIRS and pets! Specifically, dogs and horses, and why this might affect you as a human with CIRS. This is a topic that’s near and dear to our hearts because Barbara’s dog, Rosie Cotton, very likely suffers with CIRS, or at least staph infections (MARCoNs). For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro 0:48 Disclaimer: there’s not much info out there 1:05 Barbara’s experience with vets and CIRS 2:19 Horses and CIRS and Uveitis 3:33 Staph Infections, or MARCoNs, and dogs 5:05 Why you need to clear MARCoNs 5:26 Conditions of Dogs more likely to have staph colonies 6:17 What are actinos or actinomycetes? 7:14 25% of humans in the study had staph 8:09 Study on dogs with cholestyramine 9:05 Why vet intervention may be important, even for humans 9:27 Things you can do to minimize exposure with pets 11:48 Join us at TheCIRSGroup.com

The study re: dogs, staph, and their owners: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2870875/

Our podcast episode on actinos: https://youtu.be/q-KW5ZXUHVM

Study re: dogs and cholestyramine: https://cgejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40575-021-00099-x

ASPCA info on using cholestyramine for dogs: https://www.aspcapro.org/resource/what-know-about-cholestyramine-resin-and-pets

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok