The Care Leaders's Podcast – Details, episodes & analysis

Relationships, relationships, relationships, this is something we hear echo the metaphorical corridors of our sector.

We talk about the power of relationships and the transformative impact they can have for young people. We advocate for permeant relationships to be available for care experienced people, and we even formalise it with phrases like ‘relationship focussed practice’.

It’s clear we believe in revolution through relationships – so it only made sense that Karylle and Luke got together and spoke about it.

Tune into this month’s podcast where we talk about our relationship, the relationships we had with adults growing up and the impact that people have had on our lives.

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If you’ve read any of Luke's blogs, you will know that he is unsure about making care experience a protected characteristic. 

This view is shared by many, and people have asked him to share his perspective since the campaign began because they are unsure too. The main reasons for concern include the lack of evidence to suggest this will have an impact, insufficient consultation with care-experienced people about making it a protected characteristic (that equates to the volume of people this will impact), and uncertainty about the next steps once it’s established as a protected characteristic. 

Karylle and Luke got together to discuss this topic openly and honestly on our podcast, and we hope more people will come forward and share their concerns publicly too.

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In this episode we hear from Luke Rodgers and Karylle Phillips, both lived experience leaders, and Dave Linton, the founder of Madlug. 

Together, they discuss the real-life experiences of moving from one foster care placement to another, the challenges that come with this process, and what it truly means to find permanency.

Through their personal stories and expertise, Luke, Karylle, and Dave shed light on the difficulties young people face when transitioning between foster homes and the impact it can have on their lives. They explore the importance of stability and security for young people in care, and how we can better support them during these transitions.

Join us for this insightful conversation as we learn about the realities of foster care transitions and how we can all work towards a better future for children and young people in care.

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Ric Flo is a lived experience leader, rapper, and founder of Mantra Music, the world’s first record label exclusively for care-experienced artists.

For the latest episode of our ‘In Conversation With’ series, Luke Rodgers BEM, founder of The Care Leaders, chatted to Ric to learn more about his background, his passion for music, and how he’s supporting talented care-experienced young people through his work.

To find out more about Ric and Mantra Music, visit the website. You can also email them directly at info@mantramusic.co.uk

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When young people enter care, it can seem like the system takes a young person’s identity and gives them a new one, projecting them into a confusing world with new terminologies and often leaving them with little understanding of what’s happening. Systems are set up to safeguard children, which can sometimes leave families in cycles of trauma and negative family dynamics. Services become overwhelmed with the increasing numbers of young people entering care and become more stretched. Children feel confused and lost in the system; parents are hurt and often frightened, whilst practitioners are under pressure to ensure all young people are safe. Families deserve to be supported and children have a right to understand what’s happening to them.

In our latest latest episode, The Care Leaders, together with Madlug founder, Dave Linton, discuss the lived experiences of entering care and the breakdown in communications that can leave young people misunderstanding the real reason they entered care. 

To learn more about Entering care - The real reasons children come into care click here https://thecareleaders.com/courses/entering-care-the-real-reasons-children-enter-care/

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In children’s social care, systems are often set up to ‘manage’ the behaviour children and young people display, rather than helping us to understand the reasons behind their behaviour and what it communicates. In our latest episode, The Care Leaders, together with Madlug founder, Dave Linton, discuss supportive foster carers, recognising triggers, and the importance of trust without conditions.

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Speakers:
Luke Rodgers: Founder of The Care Leaders, lived experience leader and former fellow at the University of Oxford.

Karylle Phillips: Qualified teacher, social worker, and trauma-informed practitioner.

Podcast Overview:
In this engaging episode, Luke Rodgers and Karylle Phillips delve into the nuances of sharing lived experiences in the social care sector. They discuss their transition from sharing personal stories to becoming key figures in advocating for systemic change.

Highlights of the Episode:

 1. Personal Journeys:

Luke and Karylle recount their beginnings in sharing their personal stories to raise awareness and drive change. They discuss how their roles evolved from storytellers to consultants and trainers, highlighting the importance of authenticity and ethical considerations in sharing personal narratives.

2. Influence of Lived Experiences:

The discussion covers how sharing lived experiences can impact policy and practice within the social care system. They emphasise the need for engaging lived experience leaders in meaningful ways beyond just storytelling. 

3. Ethical Considerations and Challenges:

They address the ethical dilemmas of sharing personal trauma and the risk of re-traumatization. The conversation touches on the power dynamics involved in sharing stories and the necessity of support systems for lived experience leaders. 

4. Transition and Skill Development:

Luke and Karylle talk about moving from sharing personal stories to acquiring skills and knowledge that drive systemic change. They highlight the importance of training and mentorship for lived experience leaders to enhance their impact.

5. Future Integration:

The episode concludes with insights on integrating lived experiences more effectively into the social care sector. Luke and Karylle advocate for investing in lived experience leaders and providing them with the tools and support needed to translate their insights into actionable change.

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Listeners are encouraged to join this thought-provoking conversation on the power and ethics of sharing lived experiences. This episode offers valuable insights for practitioners, policy-makers, and anyone connected to the care system.

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Tune in to "In Conversation With" and be part of a movement that's transforming the lives of children in care, care leavers, and those with social workers. It's time for real change, and it starts here! 💪🎗️

As referenced in this episode: The National House Project - https://thehouseproject.org

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In this episode, your hosts, Luke Rodgers BEM, Karylle Phillips and Dave Linton, engage in a thought-provoking discussion titled "Redefining Narratives: Why Changing Words Won't Change Worlds."

Language plays a crucial role in how we perceive and interact with the world, especially when it comes to children in care and care leavers. The episode explores the significance of language in the context of trauma-informed practice, emphasising that it's not just about being politically correct; it's about ensuring that young people and adults understand each other effectively.

Luke shares a personal story from his childhood in care, highlighting how the choice of words can have unintended consequences on a child's perception and emotional well-being. He vividly describes how a seemingly harmless phrase led to a completely different interpretation, demonstrating the need for clear and empathetic communication.

Dave Linton chimes in with his perspective, explaining that while changing language is a step in the right direction, it's not the sole solution to changing outcomes for care-experienced individuals. He challenges the common belief that altering terminology is the key to transforming attitudes and practices.

Tune in as our hosts explore the complexities of language and its impact on the lives of those in care, shedding light on the broader issues surrounding the care system. Discover why it's essential to move beyond surface-level changes in language and work toward shifting perceptions and dismantling stereotypes.

If you're a social worker, teacher, therapist, or simply someone interested in understanding and improving the lives of children in care, this episode is a must-listen. 
Join us on "In Conversation With" as we navigate the intricate web of language, perceptions, and experiences that matter for children in care, care leavers, and those with a social worker. Together, we aim to create a more empathetic and inclusive community

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In this episode, we dive into the pressing question: "Can Youth Participation Avoid Tokenism?" With a blend of personal stories and professional insights, Luke and Karylle share their lived experiences and effective strategies to authentically involve young people.

Drawing from their diverse backgrounds spanning lived experience and professional practices, the hosts shed light on the challenges of tokenism in youth engagement. Through engaging anecdotes, they reveal how tokenism can hinder progress and sideline genuine voices.

However, the episode goes beyond identifying issues. Luke and Karylle provide actionable tips to shift from tokenistic gestures to meaningful involvement. From co-creation approaches to fostering open and safe dialogues, they offer practical methods to reshape the way youth participation is approached.

Tune in now as Luke and Karylle uncover insights that resonate with anyone passionate about authentic youth engagement. Gain valuable perspectives on empowering young voices and driving positive change.

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