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The venture capital system is not broken. It is working exactly as designed. And that is precisely the problem.

In this episode of The Capital Flex, I sit down with Cindy Gallop — founder of Make Love Not Porn, builder of the world's first sex tech fund, and one of the most consequential thinkers in any room she walks into. 

Cindy has been building for nearly 17 years in a sector VC refuses to fund and one which the financial system actively blocks. But this conversation is not about her fundraising experience. It is about what it would take to tear down the existing venture ecosystem and rebuild it through a female lens.

We talk about what core financial architectures would look like, including the supporting systems and vehicles; how fund timelines and fund constructions would change to deliver on opportunities beyond the profiles and systems we have today; and what new thesis statements would activate women to invest across private markets. Especially when the math would say there’s potentially $5B already in the room.

This is where the new system starts. 

Key Takeaways:

• What a female-designed venture system actually looks like at the structural level: timelines, incentives, and a completely different definition of aspiration
• How emotional levers can move capital that rational arguments never will
• The two groups sitting on significant capital, yet who have never been given a real reason to deploy it towards women
• Why community is the mechanism to move money faster than any fund pitch
• The $5 billion already in the room and the math that makes it real
• Why the stories we don't tell shrink what founders believe is possible

My Reflection & Challenge:

What struck me most was the specificity underneath the vision. Cindy does not just say women should build a new system, she names who has the capital, what would move them, and why the current approach isn't working. That level of clarity is rare and it made this feel less like a conversation about what could exist and more like the first meeting for something that should. 

This Week's Challenge:

• Who in your network is sitting on capital they have never been asked to deploy toward women? What is the one thing they have lived through that would move them?
• What room could you create, a dinner, a salon, a conversation, where the right women in the same space starts to move capital because of what they have in common?

Links and Resources:

https://makelovenotporn.tv/

https://www.makelovenotporn.academy/

https://www.instagram.com/cindygallop

https://www.instagram.com/makelovenotporn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/cindygallop/

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What happens when you walk into a raise with receipts, relationships, and a real product, then realize the only thing slowing the deal is how polite you are being?

In this episode of The Capital Flex, I sit down with Emily Maginn, founder and CEO of EXO Technologies, a technology company building the “women’s health lab of the future”. 

Emily bootstrapped her company into an enterprise-level platform before raising a single dollar, which placed her in rooms most first-time founders usually never enter. She found herself navigating tier-one funds, “super seed” semantics, and a real-time lesson in what happens when you approach fundraising with pure logic versus keen  strategy.

We talk about the difference between stating facts and understanding leverage, how momentum can quietly disappear in small bites, and why ‘playing the game’ is more true in fundraising than anywhere else. Emily explains why so much fundraising advice falls short because it’s built for the wrong vehicle – they offer you airplane parts, but what you’re building is a rocketship. 

 Key Takeaways:

• The aha moment she had when she understood how men protect momentum while women often slow it down in the name of courtesy
• How she learned the difference between over-engineering and the power of saying ‘yes’ first
• How she’s learning to find investors with conviction, not curiosity
• Why women need more private capital, not more encouragement

My Reflection & Challenge:

Listening back, what stood out was not the size of the raise, but how quickly politeness can become friction. The moment you have permission to be in the room, you need to move like you have always belonged there. 

This Week’s Challenge:
Before your next investor conversation, write your “rocket ship criteria.” Ask yourself:

• Do they understand what I am actually building?
• Do they respect my conviction or try to shrink it?
• Do they move with urgency or slow everything down?
• If I stopped explaining, would they still have belief?

Links and Resources:
http://www.weareexo.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-maginn/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/exo-tech-group/

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MILO Human Care is Lisa Hillyard’s answer to a CPG industry built on overconsumption and late-stage capitalism. Drawing on her years in adtech and executive leadership, she’s rebuilding the category through regenerative values — starting with skincare and ultimately aiming to become a venture builder that can go toe-to-toe with today’s beauty giants. Alongside MILO, Lisa is a newly published author of On Behalf Of, a book on corporate dynamics told through the lens of the executive assistant, questioning who we choose as leaders and why. 

In this conversation, Lisa is brutally honest about a fundraising journey she describes as disheartening, illuminating, and ultimately empowering — from a “gender-lens” investor who blurred business and boundary, to VCs who were happy to monetize her but not back her. What emerges is a roadmap for founders who want to protect their integrity, trust their instincts, and build outside the traditional VC playbook.

We dig into overconsumption in beauty, predatory “gender-lens” capital, trauma responses in fundraising, and what it means to walk away from misaligned VC money.

Key Takeaways

• Overconsumption drives late-stage capitalism. MILO offers a regenerative alternative.
• Expect a power dynamic in every VC meeting; hold your center and trust your expertise.
• Separate useful critique from misalignment; their thesis isn’t your truth.
• Recognize freeze/fawn responses so you stop blaming yourself for survival instincts.
• Catch red flags when “gender-lens” investors blur boundaries and can’t write real checks.
• Sometimes the aligned move is opting out of traditional VC to protect your model.

My Reflection & Challenge

This conversation with Lisa Hillyard is a stark reminder that not all capital is neutral and not all “gender lens” investing is safe, ethical, or real. What struck me most was how quickly professional boundaries blurred, how often red flags were disguised as normal business behavior, and how deeply conditioned many women are to tolerate it just to keep momentum alive. Lisa’s story isn’t about one bad actor—it’s about patterns, power dynamics, and a system that still asks women to absorb harm quietly in exchange for access. Her clarity came not from winning VC approval, but from reclaiming her own authority and deciding that certain money simply isn’t worth the cost.

This Week’s Challenge

Before your next investor meeting, decide your exit criteria—not just for the deal, but for the behavior. If your body flags discomfort, confusion, or boundary-crossing, treat that as real data. You’re allowed to walk away without overexplaining. Protecting yourself is protecting the company.

Connect with Lisa Hillyard:

milocares.com

https://www.instagram.com/milomultifunctional/ 

https://www.tiktok.com/@milomultifunctional

https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisahillyard/

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In this episode, I sit down with Kiki Freedman, co-founder and CEO of Hey Jane, a telehealth platform delivering safe, discreet, and accessible abortion care and broader sexual and reproductive health services. Kiki shares how Hey Jane has grown to serving over 85,000 patients across 23 states, why macro moments like the fall of Roe have shaped their fundraising strategy, and how they’ve raised capital without a traditional lead investor by leaning into mission-aligned angels, SPVs, and syndicated rounds.

We also get into the realities of building in a politicized area of healthcare, from navigating vice clauses and LP conflicts to hearing investors question why Hey Jane is a business and not a non-profit. Kiki talks candidly about gendered experiences in venture, why some conversations just aren’t worth the time, and how founders can protect their energy by qualifying investors early. She closes with practical advice on structuring your raise, using your time wisely, and finding the right angels plus how listeners can plug into Hey Jane’s Unwhisper Network and support the broader reproductive health mission.

Topics Discussed in This Episode

• Building Hey Jane’s accessible telehealth model for abortion care
• Navigating vice clauses, LP conflicts, and SPVs in fundraising
• Raising “Roe round” capital without a traditional lead investor
• Gendered dynamics in venture and bias in women’s health investing
• Fundraising tips on screening investors and finding aligned angels

My Reflection & Challenge

 What stayed with me from this conversation is how intentionally Kiki chose not to contort her company to fit a system that wasn’t built for it. Instead of chasing a traditional lead or spending months educating misaligned investors, she protected her time and built a fundraising strategy that matched reality—syndicated rounds, SPVs, and capital raised in direct response to demand. That kind of clarity isn’t a shortcut. It’s discipline. And it’s a reminder that creativity in fundraising isn’t a compromise—it’s often the most strategic path forward. 

This Week’s Challenge

Before your next investor conversation, write down three deal-breakers (LP conflicts, risk tolerance, mission alignment). Name them in the first meeting. Let misalignment surface early and move on faster. 

Connect with Kiki Freedman and Hey Jane:

https://www.heyjane.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/company/hey-jane/

https://www.instagram.com/heyjanehealth/

https://tiktok.com/@heyjanehealth

https://www.facebook.com/heyjanehealth/

https://twitter.com/HeyJaneHealth

https://bsky.app/profile/heyjanehealth.bsky.social

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In this episode of The Capital Flex, I sit down with Somer Baburek, President and CEO of Hera Biotech, a women’s health company building AI-powered diagnostic tests and devices to transform how conditions like endometriosis are identified and treated. Somer and I talk candidly about what it really looks like to fundraise as a female founder in hard-science women’s health—beyond the polished narratives and into the uncomfortable, often infuriating, realities of venture.

We get into the dynamics of corporate VC, the importance of having a board that truly has your back, and the subtle (and not-so-subtle) bias that shows up in both male and female investors. Somer also shares why she believes the real opportunity in women’s health lies in serious life science and B2B models, not just direct-to-consumer period apps—and why knowing your financials inside and out is non-negotiable for any founder heading into a raise.

Key Topics Discussed in the Episode:

• Founding Hera Biotech and developing AI-powered diagnostics
• A corporate VC lowball offer and how her board backed her
• The “Elizabeth Holmes” question and investor bias in biotech
• Why many femtech funds overlook hard-science women’s health
• Somer’s key fundraising advice for female founders

My Reflection & Challenge

Listening back to this conversation, what stayed with me wasn’t just the absurdity of the stories — it was how predictable they were. The napkin valuation. The “I like you” framing. The decision to bypass the CEO and go straight to the men on the board. The Elizabeth Holmes question that somehow still finds oxygen in rooms full of “smart” people. None of this is rare. What is rare is watching a founder hold the line without contorting herself to make others comfortable. Somer didn’t just survive these moments, she learned how to read them faster, name them sooner, and move on without apologizing. The throughline here isn’t outrage. It’s discernment. 

Fundraising doesn’t just reveal who will fund your company. It reveals who will try to control it, diminish it, or test your tolerance for nonsense. The real work is recognizing which is which and trusting yourself enough to act on it.

This Week’s Challenge

Before your next fundraising conversation, write a one-page non-negotiables list.

Include:

• Minimum acceptable valuation logic
• Board behavior you will not tolerate
• Questions you will not answer
• Signals that mean “this is not the check we want”

Review it before every pitch. Your job isn’t to endure every room, it’s to choose the right ones.

Connect with Somer Baburek and Hera Biotech:

www.herabiotech.com 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/somerbaburek/ 

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We’re codifying the capital playbook—because no founder should have to learn the hard way.

Hosted by Naseem Sayani, VC and unapologetic truth-teller, The Capital Flex unpacks what really happens when female founders raise money inside systems not built for them. From bias in the room to predatory term sheets, these are the stories we usually hear in DMs—not headlines.

Each episode offers unfiltered insight, real strategies, and a new playbook where we write the rules. Because the system won’t fix itself. But we will.

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Every founder has encountered that “maybe investor”, the one who needs weeks to decide, asks endless questions, and quietly burns your timeline.

In this episode of The Capital Flex, I sit down with Alison Greenberg, former CEO and co-founder of Ruth Health, and now Senior Director of Growth and Partnerships at Ember Health in New York City. Alison and I talk candidly about what it looks like to raise as a female founder in the early days of women’s health.

We unpack her experience raising for Ruth Health, the pivots, the long pre-seed grind, and what shifted when Alison entered Y Combinator. She shares a story about an investor who stalled for months, demanded endless proof, and then erupted when the round closed – with seemingly no awareness of their own analysis paralysis. 

We also dive into Alison’s observations about how men negotiate exits and pricing, how women can strengthen the same muscle, and why simply showing up is half of the game.

Key Takeaways:

• Why women’s health founders often start without clean comps
• What she learned about long cycles and how to spot a ‘no’ faster
• What changed after her Y Combinator experience, why network effects matter and the reunion story you will not forget
• Why there are critically important negotiation lessons women rarely get taught
• Why “showing up” is a necessary strategy, as important as the follow-up, the ask, and the repetition

My Reflection & Challenge:
Listening back to this conversation, what stayed with me was the timeline tax. The months of energy founders donate to “maybe,” the emotional energy spent proving what should be obvious, and the way women are still expected to stay gracious while someone else burns the clock. Alison’s story is not just about one investor, it is about the pattern.

What also landed was the negotiation contrast. Men are often willing to name a number that feels slightly unreal, then let the room negotiate them down. Women tend to start with the most defensible number, then hope the ceiling rises. The lesson is to stop low-balling ourselves out of the gate.

This Week’s Challenge:
Before your next capital conversation, write a one-page “Move Faster” sheet. Include:

• Your close date and what happens if someone misses it
• Your minimum viable “yes” signals
• The first number you will anchor with and why you can defend it
• Your max number of meetings before you decide it is a ‘no’
• The phrases you will use to exit cleanly, quickly, and without guilt

Keep it beside you during every pitch, your time is part of your valuation.

Links and Resources:
https://emberhealth.co/team/alison-greenberg/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/greenbergalison/
https://x.com/alis0nlaura/
https://emberhealth.co/
Email: allisonwith1l@emberhealth.co

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What happens when the round is “closed” on paper, but your runway is still waiting on a wire?

In this episode of The Capital Flex, I sit down with Sona Shah, CEO and co-founder of Neopenda, a med tech company building wearable vital sign monitors for newborns in hospitals across Eastern Africa. Sona’s path began in chemical engineering, took her to Western Kenya as a teacher, and ultimately led her to biomedical engineering at Columbia. It was there that Neopenda was born from a stark realization: most traditional medical equipment is not designed for the majority of the world’s population.

Sona shares the unfiltered reality of fundraising when you are building hardware in a regulated category for emerging markets, and what it looks like when a “trusted” investor commitment quietly turns into months of delay. She shares the moment she realized, just days before giving birth, that a signed check was never coming, and how that realization unraveled her timeline, her plans, and her peace.

We also go beyond the mechanics of capital and into the power dynamics that surface in the room. The blurred boundaries. The subtle tests. The decisions founders have to make when professionalism crosses the line. Sona names what happened, how she responded, and why she handled it with precision instead of panic.

This conversation is about persistence, safeguards, and building a company that proves profitability and impact can scale together.

Key Takeaways:

• Why regulated hardware fundraising requires different expectations
• How a “closed” round can still become a cash crisis
• What to change in your closing process so funds actually arrive
• How to respond when investor behavior crosses professional lines
• Why conversation is not enough and action is the only metric
• Scaling Neopenda from thousands of patients to millions

My Reflection & Challenge:

Listening back, what stayed with me was Sona’s clarity. Fundraising is not only about conviction, it is about systems. The system you use to close and protect your time matters as well as how to decide who earns access to you. When people tell women to be “less intense,” what they are really saying is, leave gaps they can exploit. Sona’s story is the reminder that being meticulous is not a personality trait, it is a strategy.

This Week’s Challenge:
Before your next investor meeting, write your closing rules in advance. Ask yourself:

• Do I have a same-day wire expectation tied to signature?
• What are my non-negotiables if funds are delayed?
• Am I treating this like a relationship or a transaction?
• Who has earned the right to stay close when things get hard?

Links and Resources:

www.neopenda.com
https://www.linkedin.com/company/neopenda/
https://www.instagram.com/neopendahealth/
https://www.facebook.com/Neopenda
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonarshah/

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What happens when the hardest part of fundraising is not the pitch, but the structure behind the check?

In this episode of The Capital Flex, I sit down with Cecilia Tse, CEO and co-founder of hey freya, a science-backed women’s health company helping women understand stress, biology, and decision-making through data, systems, and real-world usability. Cecilia is a former management consultant and wellbeing strategy leader at PwC who navigated her own IVF journey and is now one of the most analytically fluent founders operating in health and venture today.

We talk about what fundraising looks like when you understand venture economics but still find yourself navigating a system driven by relationships, pattern recognition, and inefficiency. Cecilia names her fundraising experience in three words: ongoing, inefficient, and connection-driven and explains why those realities are not contradictions, but features of the system itself.

Cecilia walks through a fast-moving term sheet that looked progressive on the surface, but quietly shifted risk entirely onto the founder. We talk about why speed is often used to limit scrutiny, how certain structures protect funds at the expense of companies, and why fluency matters more than optimism.

This conversation is about discernment, power, and learning to read what is being offered before capital reshapes the company.

Key Takeaways:

• Building hey freya while navigating her own IVF journey and fundraising 
• Why founders are always fundraising even when no capital is moving
• The inefficiency baked into venture capital matching
• Relationship-driven decision making and its hidden tradeoffs
• How fast term sheets can mask misaligned incentives
• Understanding where risk truly lives in early-stage deals
• Why fluency in structures matters more than speed

My Reflection & Challenge:
Listening back to this conversation, what stayed with me was how familiar Cecilia’s story felt. The confidence of the offer. The polish of the language. The pressure to move quickly. None of it was overtly wrong. That is what makes it dangerous.

Fundraising does not just test your pitch, it tests your ability to see incentives clearly while someone else controls the pace. The founders who last are not the ones who raise the fastest, they are the ones who understand who a deal is designed to protect.

Cecilia did not say no because the terms were confusing, she said no because she understood them.

This Week’s Challenge:
Before your next fundraising conversation, run a structure check. Ask yourself:

• Who is protected if things go sideways?
• Where does the risk sit?
• What assumptions are being made about my tolerance?
• Is speed being used to replace alignment?

Remember, you are not here to take every check, you are here to build something that lasts.

Links and Resources:

https://www.getheyfreya.com/
https://www.instagram.com/getheyfreya/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/heyfreya/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilia-tse/

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What happens when your company is strong, your tech is real, and the only thing “missing” is a man in the room?

In this episode of The Capital Flex, I sit down with Jenni Ogden, founder of Eye Q Productions, a creative producer and immersive tech operator building at the intersection of spatial computing, AR, VR and live experience. Jenni is building a new platform that rewards activism through gaming, starting with eco-focused missions designed to turn awareness into real participation.

Jenni shares a fundraising moment that still floors me, an investor told her the project was fully fundable – and then asked if she had a “masculine partner.” When she clarified the company was women-owned and women-led, he insisted she could not pitch to his fund as the CEO. She would need a male partner to present instead.

We unpack why that one comment is not just a bad interaction, it is a blueprint for how the relationship would go after the check. We talk about the hidden cost of misaligned money, why founders must evaluate investors like long-term collaborators, and how early investor behavior is the most honest diligence you will ever get.

We also get into the way women are socialized to lead with a story about mission, while men often lead with numbers, and why organizing your pitch money-first is not selling out, but a necessary strategy.

Jenni closes with a simple filter that every founder needs: the lifeboat test. If you would not want them on your lifeboat when things get hard, do not take their money when things feel urgent.

Key Takeaways:

• What “masculine partner” really signals in investor conversations
• Why investor behavior is data, not noise
• How misaligned money becomes a long-term drag on leadership
• Leading with numbers first, then mission, in money-first rooms
• The lifeboat test every founder should use before accepting capital

My Reflection & Challenge:
This conversation stayed with me because it shows how clearly the system tells on itself. Jenni did not need more traction. She did not need a different deck. She needed a room that was willing to see her as the CEO. The wrong capital does not just fund the company, it tries to rearrange who leads it. Your job is not to earn your place in every room. Your job is to notice which rooms don’t require you to shrink in order to play.

This Week’s Challenge:
Before your next investor meeting, write a one-page non-negotiables list:

• What you will not change to be “more fundable”
• What behavior signals misalignment immediately
• The sentence you will use to end a meeting calmly
• The lifeboat test: would I want this person beside me long term?

Capital is not just money. It is a relationship.

Links and Resources:
https://eyeqproductions.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniogden/
https://www.instagram.com/eyeqproductions/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqP2u4gES4g0wK8CdnPjfJA
https://www.facebook.com/EyeQProductions/
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