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| 154 – Misha Gabriel: Michael Jackson’s This Is It, Step Up & Creating Your Own Opportunities | 18 Oct 2026 | 01:18:41 | |
Recorded October 4, 2026 EPISODE SUMMARY Misha Gabriel is a dancer, choreographer and actor whose career includes working with Janet Jackson and Mariah Carey, rehearsing for Michael Jackson’s This Is It, contributing choreography to Justin Timberlake’s tours, and playing Eddy in Step Up Revolution and Step Up All In. But behind those credits are cancelled tours, devastating rejection and moments when his next chapter was anything but certain. In this conversation with Menina Fortunato, Misha shares what it takes to keep building a career when the opportunities you worked for disappear. From booking his first tour at 16 to moving to Los Angeles at 17, Misha reveals how training, mentorship and relationships opened doors. He takes us inside the Michael Jackson audition where he was cut, the unexpected second chance that changed his life, and the lessons he learned rehearsing for This Is It. He also opens up about transitioning into acting and creating a European teaching tour instead of waiting for someone else to hire him. The conversation goes beyond the highlight reel, exploring intentional training, genuine networking, financial preparation and finding your own creative voice. Misha also answers questions from Business of Dance mentees about representation, choreography, moving to LA and handling the emotional highs and lows of the industry. This episode is for dancers, aspiring choreographers and parents who want an honest look at building a sustainable career while protecting the love of dance that started it all. SHOW NOTES (02:45) Growing up in a dance family and discovering hip-hop ABOUT MISHA GABRIEL Misha Gabriel is a professional dancer, choreographer, actor and educator. His work includes performing with Janet Jackson and Mariah Carey, rehearsing for Michael Jackson’s This Is It, and portraying Eddy in Step Up Revolution and Step Up All In. His choreography credits include contributions to Justin Timberlake’s tours and So You Think You Can Dance. He also teaches internationally, helping dancers develop their artistry and professional skills. CONNECT WITH MISHA Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mishagabriel/ | |||
| 153 – Tina Landon & Travis Payne: Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, Lady Gaga, Beyoncé & Rihanna | 11 Oct 2026 | 01:11:20 | |
Recorded August 3, 2026 | The Business of Dance VIP Day, Los Angeles EPISODE SUMMARY Tina Landon and Travis Payne helped create the choreography for Michael and Janet Jackson’s “Scream.” In this live conversation with Menina Fortunato, the award-winning choreographers reunite to share two very different perspectives on the same iconic project—and the career lessons behind it. Recorded at The Business of Dance VIP Day in Los Angeles, this episode brings dancers into the room with two artists whose work has shaped music videos and world tours. Tina traces her journey from Lancaster, California, to working with Janet Jackson, while Travis shares how his training in Atlanta and a homemade audition video opened the door to Rhythm Nation. Together, they revisit the pressure of creating for Michael and Janet: different movement styles, separate rehearsals, changing production demands, and the challenge of making the choreography feel right for both performers. Their stories reveal how much collaboration, preparation, and adaptability happen before the cameras roll. The conversation then opens to questions from Business of Dance mentees about career longevity, saving money, artistic identity, and what makes a dancer someone choreographers want to hire again. From attitude and reputation to arriving prepared and continuing to learn, Tina and Travis offer practical lessons for aspiring professional dancers, working performers, and choreographers building careers that last. SHOW NOTES 00:00 – Preview: dancing with Michael and Janet Jackson ABOUT TINA LANDON & TRAVIS PAYNE Tina Landon is an Emmy-nominated choreographer and creative director whose credits include Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, Rihanna, Ricky Martin, and Christina Aguilera. Her work includes Janet’s janet. and The Velvet Rope tours and co-choreography for “Scream.” Raised in Lancaster, California, she moved to Hollywood to pursue dance, performed as a Laker Girl, and appeared in Michael Jackson’s “Smooth Criminal.” She continues to share her experience with dancers navigating professional careers. Travis Payne is an Emmy-nominated choreographer and director who began touring with Janet Jackson’s Rhythm Nation 1814 World Tour. His extensive work with Michael Jackson includes the Dangerous and HIStory tours, “Scream,” and This Is It. His collaborators also include Lady Gaga, Beyoncé, and Usher. The founder of Travis Payne Productions, he has earned MTV and American Choreography Awards for his work. His career spans live performance, music videos, concert production, and film, bringing a broad perspective to developing and sustaining a career in entertainment. CONNECT WITH TINA LANDON CONNECT WITH TRAVIS PAYNE THE BUSINESS OF DANCE | |||
| 152 – Chad Geiger: Dance Agent at The Movement Talent Agency, Dua Lipa, Dolly Parton & BET Awards | 04 Oct 2026 | 01:15:23 | |
Recorded September 20, 2026 EPISODE SUMMARY Chad Geiger, a Los Angeles talent agent with The Movement Talent Agency, joins Menina Fortunato to explain what helps dancers get noticed, earn representation, and build lasting careers. Drawing on his own work with Dua Lipa, Dolly Parton, and James Corden, he shares what he understands now from the other side of the audition table—and what he wishes he had done differently as a performer. Chad traces his unexpected path from gymnastics in Texas to dance classes in college, professional work in Los Angeles, and an agency internship during the pandemic. He recalls how following directions helped him book a Dua Lipa music video and how embracing his personality changed his approach to auditions. He also explains why training with intention means seeking growth, building relationships, and getting into rooms with working professionals. The conversation turns to the business habits that support a dance career: clear communication, updated materials, availability, and a reputation for reliability. In a mentee Q&A, Chad discusses agency submissions, dance footage, specialty skills, working outside major markets, and the patience needed to develop a career. This episode is perfect for aspiring professional dancers, dancers seeking an agent, and represented performers who want a stronger partnership with their agency. SHOW NOTES (00:00) – Introducing Chad Geiger and his dance career (02:10) – From Dallas gymnastics to discovering dance in college (06:59) – Booking Dua Lipa and embracing your individuality (13:18) – Training with intention and building industry relationships (18:22) – From MTA dancer and intern to talent agent (27:00) – Agent communication, updated materials, and book-out dates (36:00) – Building a strong agency submission and dance reel (42:19) – Understanding opportunities at a boutique talent agency (46:47) – Seeking representation while living outside major markets (52:38) – Using tap skills to create a distinctive career (54:24) – Professional habits that help dancers get booked again (56:52) – Submission timing, referrals, and making a strong impression (66:15) – Patience and building a professional career over time (69:02) – Why reply-all matters when communicating about jobs (73:42) – How to connect with Chad and MTA ABOUT CHAD GEIGER Chad Geiger is a Los Angeles-based talent agent with The Movement Talent Agency and has more than a decade of experience in the dance industry. As a performer, he worked with Dua Lipa, James Corden, Dolly Parton, Meek Mill, and Miguel, with appearances on Carpool Karaoke, The Late Late Show with James Corden, and the BET Awards. Originally from the Dallas area, Chad trained as a gymnast before discovering dance in college. After building experience in Texas, he moved to Los Angeles and signed with MTA as a dancer. An internship during the pandemic later led to an assistant position and, eventually, a move into talent representation. Having experienced the industry as both a dancer and an agent, Chad is passionate about helping the next generation prepare for professional opportunities. His approach emphasizes intentional training, clear communication, strong submission materials, and helping dancers recognize and develop the qualities that make them distinctive. CONNECT WITH CHAD GEIGER Instagram: @chad_geiger Instagram: @mtaagency | |||
| 151 - Industry Dance Awards 2025: Red Carpet Conversations with Menina Fortunato | 27 Sep 2026 | 01:15:53 | |
Recording / Interview Date: October 20, 2025 EPISODE SUMMARY What helps a dancer build a career that lasts? Join Menina Fortunato on the red carpet at Avalon Hollywood for the 2025 Industry Dance Awards, where conversations with performers, choreographers, educators, and industry leaders go beyond the spotlight to explore the work, relationships, and resilience behind a life in dance. From embracing your individuality to asking for help and protecting your reputation, this special episode brings together practical lessons for dancers, parents, teachers, and dance-industry professionals. Guests reflect on setbacks, creative opportunities, social media, and the importance of being someone others want to work with. Ian Eastwood champions uniqueness, Travis Wall speaks about seeking support, and Denise Wall shares perspective on learning through challenges. At the heart of the evening is Dancers Against Cancer. Tia Stokes, Jocelyn Basham, and Noah Lands bring the conversation back to community, compassion, and supporting dance families affected by cancer. Alongside career advice and personal stories, these interviews capture the projects and priorities guests shared on the night of the event. Whether you work in dance or simply love the art form, step behind the awards for an honest look at what sustains this community: purposeful work, human connection, and the courage to keep growing. SHOW NOTES 00:00 Red carpet highlights and welcome 01:59 Tia Stokes: Authenticity and resilience 03:31 Jocelyn Basham: The power of human connection 07:09 Enola Bédard: Enjoying the journey 12:40 Protecting yourself as an artist 15:10 Travis Wall: The courage to ask for help 18:03 Noah Lands: The story behind Dancers Against Cancer 22:29 Denise Wall: Learning from setbacks 32:04 Why your reputation matters 32:59 Brooke Lipton: Dance and television 45:24 Social media as your future résumé 47:15 Ian Eastwood: Embracing your individuality 54:38 Blake McGrath: Family and purpose 1:03:37 Building a lasting dance career 1:10:55 Bringing character to your movement ABOUT INDUSTRY DANCE AWARDS The Industry Dance Awards celebrates the people shaping dance and supports Dancers Against Cancer. This red carpet special brings together artists, educators, and advocates to share career lessons and highlight the importance of supporting dance families affected by cancer. CONNECT WITH INDUSTRY DANCE AWARDS & DANCERS AGAINST CANCER Industry Dance Awards: https://www.industrydanceawards.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/industrydanceawards/ Dancers Against Cancer: https://imadanceragainstcancer.org Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/imadanceragainstcancer/ The Business of Dance: https://www.bizofdance.com/thepodcast Follow The Business of Dance on Spotify and share this episode with a dancer, dance parent, teacher, industry colleague, or dance fan. | |||
| 150 - Travis Lim: Lisa from Blackpink, Hollywood Arts, Lego, HHI, NBC's World of Dance, Canada's Got Talent, UCLA Graduate | 20 Sep 2026 | 01:07:00 | |
Interview Date: September 13, 2026 EPISODE SUMMARY Vancouver-born dancer, choreographer, and teacher Travis Lim joins Menina Fortunato to share his journey from childhood competitions and Michael Jackson-inspired solos to UCLA and professional dance work in Los Angeles. With credits including Lisa of BLACKPINK and Hollywood Arts, Travis offers an honest look at the artistic growth, relationships, and practical skills involved in building a career beyond the competition stage. Travis reflects on the value of his UCLA dance education while explaining what it did not teach him about the business of working professionally. He discusses his family’s investment of approximately $400,000 CAD and the difference between developing as an artist and preparing to earn a living. The conversation also explores how he uses AI in his creative work, moves through perfectionism and comparison, and approaches projects with curiosity and a willingness to keep learning. During the dancer Q&A, Travis shares his perspective on networking, direct bookings, choosing an agency, communicating with agents, and showing up confidently in auditions. He also discusses developing an individual style, making choices about competition and professional work, and finding time to recover. This episode is perfect for aspiring professional dancers, dance parents weighing college options, and competition dancers ready to understand what comes next. SHOW NOTES
ABOUT TRAVIS LIM Travis Lim is a professional dancer, choreographer, artist, and teacher from Vancouver, Canada, based in Los Angeles. He began as a competitive dancer and freestyler, earning international recognition through the competition circuit and appearances on NBC’s World of Dance and Canada’s Got Talent. He moved to Los Angeles to attend UCLA, where he earned a Bachelor of Arts in Dance before continuing to build his professional career. His film and television experience includes Hollywood Arts, A Week Away: The Series, and Lego Friends: The Musical with Kenny Ortega. Travis has also danced with artists including Lisa of BLACKPINK, Victoria Justice, Machine Gun Kelly, DPR IAN, Paris Hilton, and AJ McLean. Alongside his professional work, he teaches and shares his approach to training, choreography, and artistic development. Drawing on his background in freestyle, crew training, and choreography, he encourages dancers to develop their individuality while continuing to learn from different styles and experiences. CONNECT WITH TRAVIS LIM
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| 149 - Noelle Marsh: Michael Movie, So You Think You Can Dance, Tate McRae, Beyoncé, Palm Royale, Jennifer Lopez and Every Single Step. | 13 Sep 2026 | 00:48:19 | |
Interview Date: August 30, 2026 Episode Summary In Episode 149 of The Business of Dance Podcast, host Menina Fortunato sits down with Los Angeles-based choreographer, movement director, and performer Noelle Marsh. Noelle traces her path from a small dance studio in North Carolina to the world stage, beginning with dance at age three, competing nationally, and appearing on So You Think You Can Dance, which became her gateway into the industry. She opens up about assisting Mia Michaels, being mentored by Brian Friedman, and choreographing and later performing alongside Tate McRae. Noelle also shares what it was like dancing in the Thriller sequence of the Michael Jackson biopic and the emotional weight of stepping into that legacy. The conversation explores her transition from performer to creative lead, moving fluidly between dancing and choreography, the fear and freedom of rejection, and why she believes people feel your thoughts more than your words. The episode closes with a mentee Q&A about authenticity, standing out in the room, building connections, and navigating today's social-media-driven industry. Shownotes
Biography Noelle Marsh is a Los Angeles-based choreographer, movement director, and performer whose career moves across contemporary dance, pop culture, film, television, and brand work. After growing up in North Carolina, she appeared on So You Think You Can Dance, assisted Mia Michaels, and became part of the original company of Shaping Sound. As a performer, Noelle has worked with artists including Beyoncé, Taylor Swift, Jennifer Lopez, Dua Lipa, Tate McRae, Halsey, Mariah Carey, Gwen Stefani, and Katy Perry. Her choreography and movement-direction work includes projects for Tate McRae, The Voice, and campaigns for Bose, McDonald's, Motorola, and DSW. Connect with Noelle | |||
| 148- Melissa Becraft: Brooklynettes, Blackpink, Disney, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, Netflix, Lil Kim, and Hulu | 06 Sep 2026 | 00:42:15 | |
Interview Date: February 15, 2026 EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast, Menina Fortunato sits down with New York City-based dancer and content creator Melissa Becraft to unpack the persistence, creativity, and unexpected opportunities behind her career. Melissa shares how she started dancing at 12, moved from South Carolina to New York City at 18, and spent four years auditioning while booking only one professional dance job before finally landing a spot with the NBA Brooklynettes. That opportunity became a major turning point, leading to six seasons with the team, including four as captain. When the pandemic paused live performances, Melissa turned to social media as a creative outlet. What began as a TikTok account with zero followers quickly exploded, reaching 950,000 followers in eight months. She shares how recreating movie scenes, music videos, characters, and decades helped her build a recognizable creative identity and eventually turn dance content into a viable business through brand partnerships. She also gets candid about influencer rates, from early $500 videos to a $35,000 short-form campaign, while comparing the earning potential of content creation to traditional professional dance jobs. Throughout the episode and mentee Q&A, Melissa offers practical advice on confidence, versatility, performance quality, audition preparation, social media safety, time management, and overcoming comparison. Her story is a reminder that success rarely happens overnight—and that dancers do not have to be the “best” person in the room to build a thriving career. SHOW NOTES 02:47 – Melissa’s dance journey from South Carolina ABOUT MELISSA Melissa Becraft is a dancer and content creator based in New York City. She began her career with the NBA Brooklynettes, later becoming captain and choreographer. Her credits include the VMAs with BLACKPINK, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, and HBO’s Last Week Tonight with John Oliver. She has built an audience of more than 3.5 million followers across TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube and created dance content for Disney, Prime Video, Netflix, Hulu, HBO, and Kate Spade. CONNECT WITH MELISSA | |||
| 147 - Joey Vice: Cirque De Soleil’s KOOZA, BalletRED, and Netflix’s Star Search | 30 Aug 2026 | 00:59:41 | |
Interview Date: August 16th Episode Summary: In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast, Menina Fortunato sits down with Los Angeles-based performer, choreographer, acrobat, and educator Joey Vice to explore the unconventional path that took him from a young competitive dancer in Ohio to performing his dream role with Cirque du Soleil. Joey shares how he transitioned from soccer to dance, developed a strong technical foundation in ballet and jazz, and independently expanded into contemporary and acro. By 12, he had already set his sights on Cirque, studying its artists, training methods, and performance style in preparation for the career he wanted. That preparation paid off when Cirque du Soleil contacted Joey at just 18 years old and ultimately cast him in KOOZA. He opens up about the elaborate makeup process, the physical demands of touring, performing up to 10 shows per week, and developing the acting, improvisation, stamina, and versatility required of a Cirque artist. After two years on tour, Joey chose to step away from his childhood dream job to explore the broader dance industry and eventually relocated to Los Angeles. Joey also takes listeners behind the scenes of his transition into television and commercial work, including being discovered through social media for BalletRED and appearing on Netflix’s Star Search. During the mentee Q&A, he shares advice on strengthening acro technique, overcoming fear, researching who you audition for, embracing individuality, and continuing to train. His message throughout the episode is to stay curious, work hard, ask questions, and surround yourself with people who are pursuing similar goals. Shownotes: 03:56 – From soccer player to passionate dancer 06:00 – Building his unique acro-contemporary style 09:06 – Training specifically for a Cirque career 12:08 – Booking his dream job at eighteen 14:23 – Learning Cirque’s elaborate makeup process 19:13 – Inside life performing with Cirque 25:03 – The unexpected realities of touring young 28:54 – Transitioning from Cirque to Los Angeles 29:20 – Social media opens the Star Search door 30:37 – Eight months preparing for BalletRED 33:26 – Behind the scenes of live television 43:03 – Q&A begins with aspiring dancers 46:59 – Q&A: Strengthening and improving acro technique 53:39 – Q&A: Research who you audition for 1:03:32 – Final advice: Keep training and asking questions Biography: Joey Vice is a versatile performer and choreographer who has been making waves in the dance industry since his teenage years. At just 18, his exceptional talent and dedication led him to become the lead role in Cirque du Soleil’s KOOZA. Now based in Los Angeles, Joey works as a freelance choreographer, teacher, and performer, creating innovative choreography and jaw-dropping tricks. His career has included performing in music videos for artists such as 070 Shake, Marina, and Vana, and most recently appearing on Netflix’s Star Search with BalletRED. Joey is currently on faculty at Millennium Dance Complex and has worked as a teacher and choreographer for Joffrey Ballet School. Joey’s mission is to push the boundaries of dance while inspiring the next generation of artists through creativity, athleticism, and passion for performance. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joeythedancer/ | |||
| 146 - Alex Francoeur: Head Choreographer FIFA World Cup, France’s Got Talent, Révolution, The Voice Canada, PAN - AM Games, Netflix, Ariana Grande, CBS. | 23 Aug 2026 | 01:14:40 | |
Interview Date: August 9th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast, Menina Fortunato sits down with Canadian choreographer Alex Francoeur to trace the journey that took him from a nine-year-old boy reluctantly entering his first hip-hop class in Quebec to building a full-time career across performance, choreography, television, live production, and entrepreneurship. Alex shares how early professional opportunities showed him that dance could become a real career, eventually leading him from Montreal to Toronto, New York, and Los Angeles. Along the way, he reflects on the mentors, relationships, O-1 visa journey, and willingness to take risks that shaped his path. Alex also opens up about the major turning points that redirected his career, including Révolution, receiving a Golden Buzzer on France’s Got Talent, and discovering his voice as a choreographer and creative leader. He explains why genuine relationships matter just as much as talent, how assisting choreographers for years unknowingly prepared him to lead, and why defining success on your own terms can completely change your trajectory. The conversation dives into one of Alex’s biggest projects yet: serving as head choreographer for the Opening Ceremony of the FIFA World Cup 2026, including the massive audition and rehearsal process behind the production. During the Q&A, Alex shares valuable advice about auditions, skeleton crews, networking, personal branding, leveraging opportunities, and treating yourself like a business. Above all, he encourages dancers to enjoy the journey, stay curious, build meaningful relationships, and recognize that every experience is preparing them for what comes next. Shownotes: 00:42 – Starting dance at nine in Quebec 05:09 – Discovering dance could become a career 10:28 – Relationships that led to FIFA World Cup 15:14 – Taking a one-way chance on Los Angeles 18:04 – Révolution performance changes Alex’s career 20:11 – Becoming his own brand and business 22:29 – Unexpected transition from dancer to choreographer 25:51 – Building an international dance convention company 28:21 – Defining success on your own terms 32:09 – Choreographing FIFA with 125 dancers 35:16 – Inside the massive FIFA audition process 54:04 – Q&A: Why skeleton crews create opportunities 57:43 – Q&A: Receiving the life-changing FIFA call 1:05:13 – Q&A: Treating yourself like a business 1:11:16 – Final advice: Believe and enjoy the journey Biography: Alex Francoeur is a Canadian choreographer who creates large-scale movement for the world’s biggest stages — from sold-out arenas to global broadcast events reaching millions of viewers. With more than 100 television episodes to his name and live productions staged before crowds exceeding 100,000 spectators, Alex has built a reputation for choreography that merges precision, storytelling, and raw emotional impact. His work doesn’t just fill a stage — it commands it. His international profile surged after receiving a Golden Buzzer on France’s Got Talent, a breakthrough that brought his singular artistic vision to audiences far beyond Canada. That vision — rooted in authenticity and human connection — is what consistently earns him trust from the industry’s most demanding productions. Alex has recently served as the Head Choreographer for the Opening Ceremony of the FIFA World Cup 2026, cementing his standing among the elite creators shaping how the world experiences live performance. His work spans productions across Canada, the United States, and Europe. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alex_francoeur/ Website: https://alexfrancoeur.ca/ | |||
| 145- Angelica Valente: Creative Director of VALENTE, KATSEYE, Megan Thee Stallion, PUMA, Tik Tok, Usher, Paris Hilton and Co-Founder of Spaced Visuals. | 16 Aug 2026 | 00:45:19 | |
Interview Date: July 26th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast, Menina Fortunato reconnects with Hollywood Summer Tour alum Angelica Valente, whose journey has taken her from competitive dancer in Thunder Bay, Ontario, to an LA-based director, producer, fashion designer, and creative entrepreneur. Angelica shares how an early trip to Los Angeles changed the trajectory of her life, eventually inspiring her to move to LA at 17 to study dance. While pursuing a professional dance career, her interests in fashion, film, editing, styling, and creative direction began opening doors she never originally imagined. Angelica opens up about navigating the entertainment industry as an international artist, from OPT and the O-1 visa process to developing the work ethic, resourcefulness, and relationships necessary to build a career in the United States. She shares how she co-founded Spaced Visuals, grew from working with emerging artists to major productions, and eventually launched her own fashion label, VALENTE. Today, her worlds of dance, film, fashion, and creative direction intersect through productions, campaigns, custom stagewear, and visual storytelling. Throughout the conversation and mentee Q&A, Angelica encourages dancers to remain open to where their careers can lead, take risks before they feel completely ready, and create opportunities rather than waiting for permission. Her journey is a powerful reminder that dance can be the foundation for countless careers beyond performing—and that the skills dancers develop can continue shaping their success in unexpected ways. Shownotes: 0:00 – Meet director and designer Angelica Valente 3:23 – Growing up dancing in Thunder Bay 5:15 – Discovering Los Angeles and dreaming bigger 8:06 – Expanding from dance into creative direction 9:28 – Film, editing, fashion spark new passions 11:36 – Navigating OPT and the O-1 visa 17:42 – Building Spaced Visuals from the ground up 19:26 – Launching VALENTE and learning fashion independently 21:19 – Designing custom stagewear for KATSEYE 24:33 – Recognizing how far you have come 26:32 – Taking risks before you feel ready 28:45 – How dance strengthens creative direction skills 33:14 – Q&A: Dreaming beyond what you can see 38:40 – Q&A: Create your own career opportunities 47:21 – Exploring careers beyond being the performer Biography: Angelica Valente is a director and fashion designer based in Los Angeles. She is the co-founder of Spaced Visuals, a multidisciplinary creative studio known for crafting cinematic campaigns, music videos, and visual identities for artists and global brands including Usher, Chris Brown, Megan Thee Stallion, Meghan Trainor, GIVĒON, Masego, PUMA, Coca-Cola, TikTok, 100 Thieves, and SoundCloud. Alongside her production work, Angelica is the founder and creative director of VALENTE, a luxury fashion label recognized for its sculptural silhouettes, cinematic storytelling, and handcrafted collections. Since launching in 2021, VALENTE has designed custom stagewear for KATSEYE, with pieces worn during major appearances including the GRAMMYs, as well as custom looks for Paris Hilton. Her designs have also been worn by Jordin Sparks, Tori Kelly on Good Morning America, Rhea Raj, WNBA champion Jackie Young, and Atsuko Okatsuka for the Emmy Awards. Whether directing a campaign, designing a collection, or shaping an artist’s creative era, Angelica brings together film, fashion, and brand strategy to create immersive visual identities that live seamlessly across multiple mediums. Her work is defined by bold creative direction, cinematic storytelling, and a relentless focus on crafting ideas that leave a lasting cultural impression. Connect on Social Media: Website: www.spacedvisuals.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/angelicavalente_ www.instagram.com/spacedvisuals www.instagram.com/valenteworld_ | |||
| 144 - Ivan FLIPZ Velez: You Got Served, 3X World Champion, Honey, Janet Jackson, Cirque Du Soleil, LL Cool J, The Voice, Missy Elliot, AGT. | 09 Aug 2026 | 01:20:34 | |
Interview Date: August 2nd, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast, Menina Fortunato sits down with legendary B-boy, choreographer, creative producer, and three-time World Champion Ivan “Flipz” Velez for a conversation about building a career that lasts. Ivan shares his journey from discovering breaking and pursuing his passion in New York to becoming a professional dancer, touring internationally, working across major dance films, performing at the Olympics, and eventually expanding his career into choreography, casting, producing, stunt work, and motion capture. Beyond the credits, Ivan gets candid about the qualities that have sustained his career: professionalism, humility, kindness, preparation, persistence, and being willing to help others. He explains why being the most talented dancer in the room isn't enough and how reputation, relationships, representation, and consistently showing up prepared can create opportunities for decades. The conversation also explores agents, managers, publicists, personal branding, social media, and the importance of putting yourself and your work out into the world—even before you feel completely ready. Ivan reminds dancers that their individual talent deserves to be seen and that there is room for everyone to succeed. During the mentee Q&A, Ivan shares lessons from decades in breaking, including resilience, humility, navigating injuries, and continuing to evolve. His story is a powerful example of how dance can become the vehicle to an entire career in entertainment when artists refuse to limit themselves to a single title. Shownotes: 00:00 — Meet legendary B-boy Ivan “Flipz” Velez 08:31 — Chasing breaking’s roots all the way to NYC 09:25 — Betting on himself before booking Honey 24:40 — Reflecting on decades of unforgettable career milestones 26:43 — Why helping others can shape your career 30:20 — Professionalism becomes the secret to career longevity 31:02 — Staying humble when someone is always better 40:16 — How representation helped protect and elevate him 44:31 — Building the agent-manager-publicist dream team 48:56 — Understanding publicity as an investment in yourself 54:38 — Put yourself out there before you’re ready 1:13:00 — What breaking taught Ivan about life 1:14:43 — The physical sacrifices behind a breaking career 1:16:25 — Passion and persistence through major injuries 1:23:37 — Commit, execute, and never limit your possibilities Biography: Ivan “Flipz” Velez is a host, choreographer, creative producer, three-time World Champion, and renowned B-boy who began his career as a dancer and stunt performer. Throughout his career, Ivan has toured the world with top international music icons and acted and danced in major dance films spanning the past two decades. He is also the founder of the internationally recognized Skill Methodz Crew, one of the most elite and legendary B-boy crews in the world. Ivan continues to act in film and on stage while performing and creating across commercial projects. His infectious positive energy, endless creativity, and commitment to excellence have established him as more than an exceptional performer—he has become a trusted collaborator and creative force across entertainment. Having built his career around his unique style, inventiveness, and out-of-the-box thinking, Ivan has carried that same creativity behind the camera, expanding his work into choreography, casting, and producing. “See the INVISIBLE… can do the IMPOSSIBLE.” — Ivan “Flipz” Velez
Website: https://www.ivan-flipz-velez.com/ | |||
| 143- Brandon Henschel: Director of AWAKENING, Britney Spears, Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, Lip Sync Battle, Pepsi, Beyoncé and Taylor Swift. | 02 Aug 2026 | 00:59:01 | |
Interview Date: July 19th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode, Brandon Henschel shares his journey from discovering dance at age 12 after being inspired by Michael Jackson to building a successful, decades-long career as a performer, choreographer, director, and educator. He reflects on breaking into the entertainment industry in the 1990s, landing one of his first major opportunities in a Michael Jackson music video, and commuting from San Diego to Los Angeles for auditions and professional jobs. Brandon shares behind-the-scenes stories from major projects, including touring with Britney Spears, appearing in the iconic Pepsi commercial, performing on Lip Sync Battle, and working alongside some of the entertainment industry’s most recognizable artists and creatives. He also explains why genuine relationships, professionalism, versatility, and a positive attitude are often more valuable than relying solely on auditions. The conversation also explores Brandon’s transition from performer to creative leader and his current work as the Resident Director of Awakening at Wynn Las Vegas. He discusses the responsibilities of managing a large-scale production, maintaining its artistic integrity, integrating new performers, and leading a diverse cast and creative team. Brandon concludes with valuable advice on accountability, leadership, musicality, audition preparation, partnering, and building a sustainable career in entertainment. Shownotes: 0:02 – Introduction and Brandon’s entertainment career overview 2:59 – Discovering dance through Michael Jackson at age 12 7:46 – Landing a Michael Jackson video as his first major job 10:00 – Viewing auditions as valuable networking opportunities 13:25 – Why relationships create long-term career opportunities 15:18 – Performing with Britney Spears and booking the Pepsi commercial 17:00 – Navigating massive auditions and intimidating private callbacks 22:17 – Commercial residuals and career-changing performance opportunities 24:00 – Filming From Justin to Kelly in Miami 29:50 – Inside the spectacular Las Vegas production Awakening 35:13 – Transitioning from professional performer to resident director 40:25 – Developing the leadership skills required to manage performers 46:39 – Why accountability is essential in every career 50:00 – Q&A: Audition advice for acrobatic dancers 53:05 – Q&A: Balancing school, training, and professional goals For over 30 years, Brandon Henschel has worked as a choreographer and director across film, television, live events, and theatre. His clients and collaborators include Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, Tobey Maguire, Taylor Swift, Carrie Underwood, Britney Spears, and Beyoncé. Brandon currently serves as the Resident Director of Awakening, named Best Production Show in Las Vegas, at Wynn Resorts. He has held the position for three consecutive years, overseeing the performers and helping maintain the artistic integrity of the large-scale production. In addition to his professional work, Brandon has taught internationally for more than 20 years. He is passionate about developing the next generation of performers through foundational technique, musicality, professionalism, and a strong work ethic. Connect on Social Media: Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/thebrandonhenschel/ | |||
| 142- Tanya Jane: Founder of The School of Dreams, Cher, Nick Jonas, Bad Bunny, Will Smith, Marc Anthony, and Bebe Rexha. | 26 Jul 2026 | 01:04:47 | |
Interview Date: July 12th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode, Tanya Jane shares her journey from a young professional dancer in Australia to building a thriving career in Los Angeles—and ultimately transitioning into a seven-figure success energetics coaching business. After moving to LA at just 19, she navigated visas, broke into the industry without connections, and built a decade-long career performing on some of the world’s biggest stages alongside major artists. Tanya opens up about the realities of the dance industry, including rejection, audition pressure, and the mental resilience required to sustain long-term success. She shares practical advice on securing representation, standing out in auditions, and creating opportunities for yourself—emphasizing the importance of persistence, preparation, and taking bold action even when the path is uncertain. The conversation then shifts into her transition out of dance and into entrepreneurship, where she built a 7-figure coaching business rooted in mindset and “success energetics.” Tanya breaks down how shifting internal beliefs can transform external results, offering tools to help dancers overcome rejection, reframe setbacks, and step into aligned, expansive success. The episode closes with a Q&A, where she answers questions on moving cities, building confidence, and navigating fear in the entertainment industry. Show Notes 0:00 – Introduction and Tanya’s career overview 2:30 – Early dance training and professional start 6:05 – Moving to LA and visa challenges 7:18 – Booking contract and preparing financially 9:42 – First LA audition and getting signed 11:31 – O-1 visa process and requirements 14:41 – Securing sponsorship and staying in LA 17:10 – Taking risks and asking for opportunities 20:11 – Building credentials and industry positioning 25:51 – Favorite jobs and performance experiences 27:25 – Transition from dance to entrepreneurship 30:00 – Mindset shift and career transformation 34:41 – Four-step energy flip for rejection 44:07 – Q&A: moving to a new city mindset 53:27 – Q&A: fear, confidence, industry advice Biography: Tanya Jane is a former professional dancer turned success energetics mentor for high-achieving women ready to 10x their life, business, and income—without burnout. Originally from Sydney, Australia, she moved to Los Angeles at 19 to pursue her dream of becoming a professional dancer. She went on to build a decade-long career performing on some of the world’s biggest stages and television productions, working with artists including Cher, Nick Jonas, Bad Bunny, Will Smith, Marc Anthony, and Bebe Rexha. Today, Tanya is the founder of a 7-figure coaching business where she blends her experience of pursuing “unrealistic” dreams with scalable wealth strategies and aligned action. Through her work, she helps women break through limiting beliefs, elevate their mindset, and create extraordinary success—while fully living an extraordinary life. Connect on Social Media: Website: https://www.thetanyajane.com/so dInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thetanyajane/ | |||
| 141 -German Morales: Founder of MGMT Artists, iPop!, Television Academy. | 19 Jul 2026 | 00:53:31 | |
Interview: July 5th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode, German Morales—talent agent, manager, producer, and founder of MGMT Artists—shares an inside look into the entertainment industry and what it truly takes to build a sustainable career as a performer. With over 20 years of experience, German walks through his unconventional journey from aspiring actor to becoming a leading talent representative, highlighting how his background in business and passion for entertainment ultimately shaped his career path. German breaks down the day-to-day role of an agent, from reviewing casting breakdowns and submitting talent to negotiating contracts and developing artists long-term. He emphasizes the importance of strong branding, professional materials—especially headshots and reels—and the value of persistence when seeking representation. A key takeaway from this episode is the power of being a multi-hyphenate performer. Dancers who can also act, sing, or model significantly increase their opportunities and marketability in today’s industry. The conversation also explores the current audition landscape, where self-tapes dominate, along with practical advice on how to stand out, avoid common mistakes, and leverage tools like social media and AI. German also shares insights into iPOP, a global talent showcase that connects performers with industry professionals, and how opportunities like this can accelerate exposure and career growth. The episode concludes with a live Q&A, offering real-time guidance for dancers navigating representation, submissions, and long-term career strategy. Show Notes 0:00 – Introduction to German Morales and career 2:03 – From aspiring actor to talent agent 6:08 – Inside an agent’s daily responsibilities 7:49 – Types of talent and notable clients 11:31 – How to get signed by an agent 13:33 – What iPOP is and how it works 15:40 – Notable success stories from iPOP 17:10 – How to apply and audition for iPOP 20:06 – Importance of being a multi-hyphenate performer 21:42 – How to become a talent agent 28:00 – What makes a strong submission stand out 33:24 – Why dancers should learn acting 38:03 – When and how to submit to agencies 50:07 – Self-tapes vs in-person auditions today 53:00 – Closing Biography: German E. Morales is a talent agent, manager, producer, and founder of MGMT Artists. With more than 20 years of experience in the entertainment industry, he has helped launch and develop the careers of actors, models, singers, and performers who have appeared in major television shows, films, national commercials, and even Academy Award-nominated productions. He is also a managing partner of iPOP!, one of the world’s leading talent discovery events, connecting aspiring performers with top agents, managers, casting directors, and producers. A voting member of the Television Academy, German is passionate about helping the next generation of talent break into the entertainment industry and build lasting careers. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/german_mgmtartists_/ Website: https://mgmtartists.com/ | |||
| 140- Tina Oleff: MSA LA, MSA Education, Leader of MSA KATS Division, Alvin Ailey, and ESPN. | 12 Jul 2026 | 00:47:50 | |
Interview Date: June 28th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode, Tina Oleff, agent at MSA Talent Agency, shares her dynamic journey through the dance industry—from her early days as a competitive dancer in Ohio to building a multifaceted career across performance, production, broadcasting, and talent representation. She highlights how there is no single path to success, emphasizing the importance of adaptability, curiosity, and trusting your instincts when navigating a career in dance. Tina gives an inside look at what agents are truly searching for when signing dancers, breaking down the importance of professionalism, strong training, clear submissions, and authenticity. She explains that talent alone is not enough—dancers must also be reliable, coachable, and easy to work with. She also shares actionable insights on how dancers can get noticed today, whether through classes, conventions, or digital submissions. Throughout the episode, Tina answers questions from dancers, offering guidance on breaking into major markets, avoiding common submission mistakes, and building lasting industry relationships. Her message is clear: focus on becoming undeniable through consistency, character, and connection—because success in this industry is built on more than just talent. Shownotes: 0:00 – Introduction and Tina’s career journey overview 2:00 – Early training and starting teaching young 4:00 – Moving to NYC and industry immersion 6:20 – Injury leading to unexpected career pivot 8:00 – Transition into conventions and agency work 9:30 – Joining MSA and career breakthrough 11:20 – How dancers get signed today 12:00 – What makes a strong submission stand out 13:20 – Demo reels vs single clips explained 14:10 – Education pathways and industry exposure 17:30 – College training vs commercial dance reality 19:30 – Red flags agents notice immediately 21:00 – What agents look for beyond talent 22:00 – Importance of relationships and networking 28:30 – Reality of training after getting signed
Biography: Tina Oleff, originally from Cleveland, Ohio, began her dance training at age six and grew up dancing competitively. She started teaching at just 16 years old before continuing her dance studies at Arizona State University. She later relocated to New York City, where she trained at Broadway Dance Center, Steps on Broadway, and Alvin Ailey American Dance Theater. During this time, she immersed herself in the dance community—assisting faculty, building meaningful industry relationships, and teaching extensively throughout the New York metropolitan area. Tina holds a bachelor’s degree in Communication Arts and Marketing from Marymount Manhattan College and brings a diverse professional background spanning dance, production, and broadcast. Her experience includes working with top dance conventions and competitions, serving as an assistant to a prominent on-air sports broadcaster at ESPN, and gaining early experience within a leading dance agency. This multifaceted background gives her a unique and well-rounded perspective on the entertainment industry. She is currently an agent within the Talent and Education Departments at MSA Agency, where she leads the Los Angeles MSA KATS Division and MSA Education. Tina uses her expertise and network to support young artists, connect educators and choreographers with meaningful opportunities, and guide industry professionals in achieving their goals. Driven by her passion for dance and mentorship, she believes every artist has the ability to dream boldly, grow with confidence, and build an extraordinary career both in and beyond the industry. Connect on Social Media:Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/teenie0/ MSA: https://www.instagram.com/msa_kats/ https://www.instagram.com/msa_education/ https://www.instagram.com/msaagency/ | |||
| 139- Jeff Thacker: Emmy Nominated Executive Producer of So You Think You Can Dance, Dance Hall of Fame, Elton John, BAFTA Awards, Celine Dion, and Diana Ross. | 05 Jul 2026 | 01:04:42 | |
Interview Date: June 21st , 2026 Episode Summary: In this powerful and expansive conversation, Jeff Thacker—executive producer of So You Think You Can Dance—shares his journey from an untrained school dancer to one of the most influential figures in global dance entertainment. He walks through each stage of his career evolution—from performer to choreographer to producer—emphasizing that longevity in the industry comes from adaptability, curiosity, and the willingness to start over at the bottom of a new ladder. Jeff dives deep into the realities of the dance industry, challenging dancers to move beyond the idea of “dreams” and instead take ownership through action, discipline, and choice. He highlights the importance of being well-rounded, building strong technical foundations, and developing a distinct personal identity. Drawing from his experience casting over 60,000 dancers, he reinforces that success is not just about talent—it’s about being memorable, coachable, and aligned with opportunity. The episode also explores the legacy and impact of So You Think You Can Dance, the creation of the Dance Hall of Fame, and the importance of honoring dance history while creating future opportunities. Through candid Q&A with young dancers, Jeff offers practical advice on auditions, career transitions, and avoiding common mistakes. His core message is clear: dancers have the power to shape their own path—through consistency, resilience, and the choices they make every day. Shownotes: 0:00 – Jeff Thacker introduction and career highlights 3:30 – Early dance journey and late formal training 6:00 – Transition from dancer to choreographer 9:50 – Career evolution into production and TV 12:30 – Building So You Think You Can Dance 15:30 – Creating opportunities for dancers and choreographers 18:30 – Audition insights and casting perspective 21:30 – Dance as a lifelong evolving career 24:00 – Importance of versatility and technical foundation 27:30 – Advice for young dancers and training mindset 30:30 – Dance Hall of Fame mission and impact 34:30 – Industry legacy and honoring dance history 41:30 – Q&A: career transitions and biggest mistakes 51:30 – Navigating professional dance opportunities 58:30 – Future of So You Think You Can Dance and final advice Biography: Jeff Thacker is recognized as one of the foremost entertainment producers in both American and British television. With a career spanning dance, choreography, and production, he has worked with some of the biggest global names in the entertainment industry. He began his career as a dancer with the BBC’s renowned group The Dougie Squires Second Generation, performing on a weekly live television show that built his foundation in performance and production. Transitioning into choreography, Jeff created iconic work including Robert Palmer’s Addicted to Love, which became a global phenomenon. Over the years, Jeff has earned numerous prestigious awards, including a BAFTA, an Emmy, multiple nominations, and international television honors. His work spans major productions with artists such as Elton John, Celine Dion, Jennifer Lopez, Cher, and Diana Ross, among many others. In 2005, Jeff became a Senior Producer and original judge on So You Think You Can Dance, later serving as Executive Producer for 17 seasons. He played a pivotal role in shaping the show’s global success, contributing to its 70+ Emmy nominations and international adaptations across more than 30 countries. Beyond television, Jeff has produced major events including the BAFTA Awards, Royal Variety Performances, and American Idol specials. Most recently, he served as Executive Producer and Showrunner for the Dance Hall of Fame, continuing his mission to elevate and honor the legacy of dance worldwide. Connect on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/jeffthacker | |||
| 138 - Gala of The Stars: Gala of The Stars w/Menina Fortunato Anita Mann, Jeff Thacker, Robbie Blue, Jojo Siwa and more. | 28 Jun 2026 | 01:02:28 | |
Interview Date: October 20th, 2025Episode Summary:This special red carpet episode of The Business of Dance Podcast takes you inside the Gala of the Stars at the Beverly Hilton, a powerful evening supporting Dancers Against Cancer. Host Menina Fortunato interviews some of the most influential names in dance and entertainment, capturing real-time insights, career advice, and heartfelt moments from industry legends, rising stars, and changemakers.Throughout the episode, guests like Debbie Gibson, Abby Lee Miller, Robbie Blue, Allison Holker, and Vincent Paterson share what it truly takes to build a sustainable career in the dance industry. From mastering your craft and showing up prepared, to understanding your value, building relationships, and thinking long-term, a common theme emerges: success in dance is as much about professionalism, mindset, and business awareness as it is about talent.Beyond career insights, the episode highlights the deep sense of community within the dance world—celebrating mentorship, friendship, philanthropy, and resilience. With emotional stories, legacy reflections, and powerful advice, this episode serves as both inspiration and a reminder that dance is not just an art form, but a vehicle for impact, connection, and purpose.Show Notes 0:00 – Red carpet kickoff at Gala of the Stars2:30 – Debbie Gibson on longevity and performer value5:45 – Advice: be early, prepared, and unique9:10 – JoJo Siwa on impact and fundraising excitement12:00 – Abby Lee Miller on professionalism and presentation16:45 – Robbie Blue on Tate McRae VMA concept20:30 – What choreographers look for in dancers25:15 – Allison Holker on vision, goals, and longevity30:40 – Julie McDonald on treating dance as a business35:20 – Vincent Paterson on podcast inspiration story40:10 – Sabrina Bryan on career longevity and adaptability45:55 – Autumn Miller & Sophia Lucia on growth and goals52:30 – Industry leaders on philanthropy and impact57:40 – Business advice: training, finances, and branding1:02:45 – Closing reflections on community and purposeConnect on Social Media:https://www.instagram.com/industrydanceawards/https://www.facebook.com/IndustryDanceAwards/https://www.instagram.com/imadanceragainstcancer/https://www.facebook.com/iadacfoundation/Websitehttp://industrydanceawards.com/http://imadanceragainstcancer.org/Connect with GuestsDebbie Gibson - https://www.instagram.com/debbiegibson/Jojo Siwa - https://www.instagram.com/itsjojosiwa/Abby Lee Miller - https://www.instagram.com/therealabbylee/Robbie Blue - https://www.instagram.com/itsrobbiesworld_/Allison Holker - https://www.instagram.com/allisonholker/Julie Macdonald- https://www.instagram.com/juliemcdonaldmsa/Vincent Paterson - https://www.instagram.com/vlpla/Sabrina Bryan https://www.instagram.com/sabrina.bryan/Sophia Lucia https://www.instagram.com/_sophialucia/Autumn Miller - https://www.instagram.com/autumnmiller/Danielle Guillermo - https://www.instagram.com/daniellestenguillermo/Lance Guillermo -https://www.instagram.com/lancefreshness/Enola Bedard - https://www.instagram.com/enola.bedard/ Anita Mann - https://www.instagram.com/anitamannprod/Jeff Thacker -https://www.instagram.com/jeffthacker/Richard Jay Alexander - https://www.instagram.com/broadwaydick/Tia Stokes - https://www.instagram.com/thetiabeestokes/Mandy Moore- https://www.instagram.com/nopenother/Michelle Webb -https://www.spotlightevents.com/about-index | |||
| 137- Julian Mireles: Founder of BodyTech Method,Flexibility and Strengthening Educator, Biomechanics Specialist, and Entrepreneur. | 21 Jun 2026 | 00:57:04 | |
Interview Date: June 14th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode, Julian Mireles shares his unconventional journey into dance, beginning with a background in martial arts and overcoming early physical limitations. Starting later than most, Julian developed a deep curiosity for movement, leading him to study anatomy, biomechanics, and performance science to accelerate his growth and prevent injury. Julian breaks down how his personal struggles shaped the creation of the BodyTech Method—a system built on the belief that strength must come before flexibility. He dives into the gaps within traditional dance training, emphasizing the importance of stability, alignment, and long-term dancer health. Through trial, rejection, and persistence, he transformed his knowledge into a globally recognized training system used by dancers and athletes worldwide. Beyond technique, the conversation explores entrepreneurship, scaling a business, and building authority in a competitive industry. Julian shares insights on mindset, resilience, and creating opportunities, leaving dancers with actionable advice on how to build sustainable, long-term careers both on and off the stage. Shownotes: 0:01 – Introduction and unconventional start in dance Biography: Julian Mireles is a flexibility, strength, and biomechanics specialist, entrepreneur, and educator, best known as the founder of Bodybreaker Corp and creator of the BodyTech Method. With over 20 years of experience in dance and athletic training, he has built a global reputation for redefining flexibility through strength, stability, and functional movement. His method integrates anatomy, physiology, biomechanics, and injury prevention to help dancers and athletes improve performance safely. Developed through years of research and experience, his system includes over 1,700 exercises targeting flexibility, mobility, turnout, jump mechanics, and overall body control. Through private coaching, studio intensives, teacher education, and online platforms, Julian has trained thousands of dancers worldwide. His students have earned top scholarships, titles, and industry recognition. Rooted in his philosophy, “strength creates safe flexibility,” his work focuses on longevity, measurable progress, and building resilient, high-performing bodies. Based in Miami, he continues to expand the BodyTech Method globally while educating the next generation of dancers and athletes. Connect on Social Media: | |||
| 136 - Sienna Morris: Netflix’s Star Search, BalletRED, Halsey, Free People Movement, GAP, and Business of Dance Alumni. | 14 Jun 2026 | 01:16:51 | |
Interview Date: June 7th, 2026 Episode Summary: This episode dives into Sienna Morris’s journey from a dedicated young dancer to a working professional in Los Angeles, highlighting the mindset, preparation, and initiative required to succeed in today’s dance industry. From choosing dance over gymnastics at an early age to navigating a short-lived opportunity in Monaco, Sienna demonstrates the importance of trusting your instincts and making bold decisions that align with your long-term goals. Her transition into the LA scene, including joining Ballet Red, marked a pivotal shift into the professional world and set the foundation for her evolving career. Throughout the conversation, Sienna emphasizes the power of self-advocacy, networking, and consistency. She shares how introducing herself in rooms, building genuine relationships, and staying visible have directly led to opportunities. A standout mindset she lives by is her “24-hour rule” for handling rejection—allowing herself time to process before moving forward with clarity and focus. She also speaks on the importance of versatility, expanding into acting and performance, and developing multiple skill sets to remain competitive in a fast-paced industry. The episode also explores preparation and personal branding. Sienna discusses how having strong materials—reels, a professional website, and a clear online presence—helped her enter the LA market with confidence. She reflects on mentorship through Business of Dance, landing brand deals, and learning to confidently negotiate her worth. Ultimately, her story reinforces that success in dance goes beyond talent—it requires ownership, resilience, and strong relationships. Her message is clear: the dancers who take initiative and build connections are the ones who create lasting careers. Shownotes: 0:01 – Introduction and Sienna Morris full-circle journey 2:57 – Mentorship experience and early career reflections 4:05 – Early training and choosing dance path 6:37 – Monaco opportunity and trusting your instincts 9:42 – Moving to LA and Ballet Red experience 10:22 – Networking, visibility, and self-advocacy 14:12 – Handling rejection with “24-hour rule” 17:45 – Building versatility across dance and acting 18:48 – College path versus going professional early 23:00 – Preparing materials before entering LA market 26:44 – Business of Dance impact on branding 30:00 – First brand deal and negotiating value 32:20 – Social media strategy and consistency 41:34 – Agents vs self-submissions and ownership 49:55 – Relationships matter: contacts equal contracts Biography: Sienna Morris is an LA-based dancer, actor, model, choreographer, and educator whose work blends contemporary ballet with the versatility of today’s entertainment industry. Known for combining the control of classical ballet with the musicality and storytelling of contemporary movement, she moves seamlessly between concert dance, commercial performance, film, and live entertainment. Her credits include work with Halsey, Evanescence, Derek Hough, and Mark Ballas, as well as collaborations with leading creatives such as Marguerite Derricks, Kyle Hanagami, and Chris Scott. She has appeared in campaigns for FP Movement, Gap, and Jo+Jax. A defining milestone in her career was her appearance on the Star Search, expanding her reach to an international audience. Most recently, she served as associate choreographer on My Boyfriend Is a Demon, continuing to grow her work in choreography, movement direction, and film. Alongside performing, Sienna teaches, choreographs, and mentors the next generation while building a career centered on proving that contemporary ballet can thrive within commercial entertainment and mainstream media.Connect on Social Media Website: www.Sienna-morris.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sisimorris/ | |||
| 135 - Alison Stroming: Alberta Ballet, Kendrick Lamar, Jennifer Lopez, Aretha Franklin, Dance Theatre of Harlem, and founder of AS Dancewear. | 07 Jun 2026 | 00:47:25 | |
Interview Date: May 31st, 2026 Episode Summary: Alison opens up about transitioning from ballet into the commercial dance world, including her move to Los Angeles and booking major opportunities with artists such as Jennifer Lopez, Mariah Carey, Kendrick Lamar, Brent Faiyaz, Kanye West, and more. She highlights the importance of versatility, visibility, resilience, and trusting your instincts while navigating the dance industry. Beyond performing, Alison discusses the launch of A.S. Dancewear and what it takes to build a business while remaining connected to the dance community. She shares how the pandemic shifted her priorities and pushed her to redefine success on her own terms. Her story is a powerful reminder that a dance career does not have to follow one path, and that persistence, adaptability, and strong relationships can open doors in many different directions. Shownotes: Biography: Alison has performed with Alberta Ballet, Ballet San Jose, and Dance Theatre of Harlem, where she danced principal roles and toured internationally. She has also performed with Aretha Franklin at the Kennedy Center Honors and toured with Sarah McLachlan during the Hope Rising! Canadian Tour. As a commercial dancer and model, Alison has appeared in campaigns for Tumi, Canon, Under Armour, Free People Movement, Adidas, McDonald’s, and American Eagle. She has also worked on projects for Jennifer Lopez, India Arie, Mariah Carey, Kendrick Lamar, Brent Faiyaz, and Kanye West. In 2018, Alison launched A.S. Dancewear, a brand focused on mentorship, empowerment, and supporting dancers. She continues to perform, teach, choreograph, and inspire dancers around the world. Connect with Alison: | |||
| 134 - Kelly Sweeney: Disney’s Descendants: The Rise of Red, Zombies, SYTYCD, DWTS, Laker Girls, JLO. | 24 May 2026 | 00:46:49 | |
Interview Date: August 4th, 2025 Episode Summary: In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast, Kelly Sweeney shares her journey from starting dance at age 10 to becoming one of the busiest teachers, choreographers, and creatives in Los Angeles. Originally from Mexico and raised in LA, Kelly talks about growing up bilingual, moving quickly through the competition world, and making an early shift into commercial dance and hip-hop training. She reflects on getting signed young, building her teaching career from the ground up by renting her own studio space, and using social media intentionally to create visibility for both her choreography and her students. Her story is a strong example of how consistency, self-belief, and a clear understanding of your strengths can build a sustainable career in dance. Kelly also opens up about pivotal career moments, including choreographing for Shakira, creating the viral Descendants “Red” dance, working with Disney again for Zombies 4, and stepping into the convention circuit with Press Play. She speaks candidly about the sacrifices that come with an unpredictable dance career, the importance of finding balance, and why comparison can be one of the biggest traps for dancers. Throughout the conversation, she emphasizes confidence, cleanliness, performance quality, leadership, and health, while reminding dancers to stop chasing someone else’s lane and instead build a career around what makes them unique. Show Notes
Biography: Kelly Sweeney is a dynamic choreographer, educator, and creative force with a diverse career across television, film, live entertainment, theater, and professional sports. Born in Mexico and raised in Los Angeles, Kelly began choreographing in her early teens, launching her professional choreography career at just 18 years old. Her credits span some of the industry’s most recognized stages and screens. Kelly served as a choreographer for NBC’s Dancing with Myself, featuring Shakira and Nick Jonas, and has assisted on major dance television productions including So You Think You Can Dance and Dancing with the Stars. Most recently, she contributed to Disney’s Descendants: The Rise of Red, further expanding her work in film and commercial entertainment. Kelly is also currently choreographing for top NBA entertainment teams, including the Laker Girls and the Knicks City Dancers, while continuing to collaborate with emerging music artists on live performances, creative direction, and music videos. Her recent work also includes choreography for Eurovision finalist and performer Silia Kapsis. With roots in musical theater, Kelly brings a strong storytelling foundation to her work. She has choreographed productions including Seussical and Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat for Sierra Madre Playhouse, blending technical excellence, performance quality, and emotional expression. Known for her versatility, creativity, and ability to bring out the best in dancers, Kelly continues to make her mark as a sought-after choreographer and educator across the entertainment industry. Connect on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/kellysweeney1/ | |||
| 133- George Jones JR: JLO, Nicki Minaj, Britney Spears and Choreographer for Sacramento Kings & Dallas Cowboys | 17 May 2026 | 01:10:58 | |
Episode Summary In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast, George Jones Jr. shares his unconventional path into the dance industry, from starting dance at 17 to building a successful commercial career working with artists like Britney Spears, Jennifer Lopez, Nicki Minaj, and Usher. He opens up about coming from a musical theater foundation, teaching himself hip-hop through culture and observation, and learning how to navigate the industry by staying adaptable, observant, and open to unexpected opportunities. His story is a powerful reminder that there is no single timeline in dance, and that success often comes from taking a different road than the one you originally imagined. George also dives deep into the realities of the professional dance world, including how relationships can shape your career more than money, why strategy matters in auditions, and how dancers must learn to identify their lane while still building versatility. He speaks candidly about moving from New York to Los Angeles, booking major opportunities through submissions and connections, and eventually transitioning from performer to choreographer and mentor. Throughout the conversation, he emphasizes collaboration, self-awareness, resilience, and the importance of building a career that reflects who you truly are, not just what the industry expects from you. Top 10 Show Notes
Biography: George Jones Jr. is an accomplished choreographer, educator, and performer with extensive experience across commercial dance, live performance, and elite team choreography. His career launched working with Britney Spears and has since included collaborations with Jennifer Lopez, Nicki Minaj, and Usher, along with appearances on major television shows, award stages, and international tours. A graduate of Marymount Manhattan College, George combines strong technical training with a foundation in production and visual design, bringing a well-rounded creative approach to his work. Which ranges from a flashy Jazz and Jazz Funk Technique, to a hard hitting and visually impactful Hip Hop technique. He has choreographed for professional teams including the Dallas Cowboys Rhythm & Blue Dancers and Sacramento Kings Dancers, and has spent over a decade working with Varsity Spirit, developing and training dancers at a national level. Currently represented by MSA Agency, George continues to teach and choreograph internationally while focusing on creating high-impact work for collegiate and professional dance teams. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrgeorgejonesjr/ | |||
| 132: Gary Edwards - CEO of Arthur Murray Dance Studios, World Champion Ballroom Dancer,International Judge, and Michael Jackson’s Cha Cha Instructor. | 10 May 2026 | 01:07:20 | |
Interview date: May 3rd, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast, Gary Edwards shares his remarkable journey from a seven-year-old boy in London learning to dance so he could attend his mother’s events, to becoming a world champion ballroom dancer, international judge, and now CEO and partner of Arthur Murray Dance Studios. He reflects on the unwavering conviction he had from a young age that dance would not just be his passion, but his profession, despite pushback from a world that did not yet see dance—especially for boys—as a serious career path. From his first paid job at 17 to years spent performing, judging, and teaching around the world, Gary’s story is one of persistence, adaptability, and saying yes to opportunity. The conversation also dives into the business side of dance in a powerful way. Gary discusses how Arthur Murray has remained successful for more than a century by focusing on fun, connection, and community, while also explaining the urgent need to modernize through social media, updated systems, and broader visibility. He shares entertaining stories about teaching Michael Jackson a cha-cha to “Billie Jean,” spending time with Janet Jackson and other celebrities, and emphasizes that even the biggest stars simply want to be treated like human beings. Most importantly, he offers dancers practical advice on resilience, pivoting through rejection, learning business skills, managing time well, and creating sustainable careers in dance beyond performance alone. Top 10 Show Notes
Biography: Gary Edwards, CEO of Arthur Murray Dance Studios, has spent over four decades immersed in the dance industry, earning a reputation as a distinguished leader and innovator. As a world-ranked dancer, his competitive achievements have solidified his status within the dance community. In addition to his vast expertise in dance education and studio management, Gary also brings a strong presence in the media world, having collaborated on various dance projects, television appearances, and productions that celebrate the art of dance. Connect on Social Media: Website: www.arthurmurray.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arthurmurrayintl/https://www.instagram.com/ballroomgiant/ | |||
| 131- Karynn Hough: Founder of FRESHTALENT Group, Emmy Award Winning Talent Agent, Director of Millenium Dance Complex Nashville | 03 May 2026 | 01:31:10 | |
Interview Date: April 26th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast, Menina Fortunato sits down with Karynn Hough, Director of Millennium Dance Complex Nashville and founder of Fresh Talent Group, for an honest and inspiring conversation about building a dance career outside of the traditional LA/New York path. Karynn shares how her daughter’s professional journey helped spark her desire to create more opportunities for Nashville dancers, eventually leading her to launch an agency rooted in mentorship, relationships, and genuine care for talent. Karynn opens up about the growth of Nashville’s entertainment scene, the power of collaboration between agencies, and why dancers should never limit themselves to one box. From casting Emmy-winning commercial work to seeing choreography land inside Fortnite, she reminds dancers that authentic work, strong preparation, and being visible can lead to unexpected opportunities. Throughout the conversation, Karynn gives practical advice for young dancers pursuing representation: follow instructions, keep training, clean up your Instagram, build an EPK, research the people in the room, and be kind to everyone. She also emphasizes the importance of improv, professionalism, persistence, and creating your own opportunities, especially for dancers from smaller cities or nontraditional markets. Show Notes: (00:41) Karynn’s early dance roots and family inspiration (03:27) Why Nashville needed its own talent agency (04:50) How Solace helped inspire Karynn’s career path (06:00) Fresh Talent Group meets Millennium Dance Complex (09:40) Millennium becomes Nashville’s creative rehearsal hub (12:17) Representing dancers, singers, actors, and influencers (14:05) Why Karynn refuses to box dancers in (16:38) Emmy-winning work from authentic creative passion (20:23) Advice for international dancers pursuing American agencies (32:00) Instagram presence matters more than dancers realize (35:20) Why every dancer needs a strong EPK (40:01) The biggest teen mistake: ignoring instructions (42:23) Improv reveals smart, castable dancers quickly (47:00) Auditions begin before entering the room (1:26:58) Small-town dancers need perseverance and uniqueness Biography: Karynn Wright-Hough is an Emmy Award–winning talent agent, entrepreneur, and Founder of FreshTalent Group, a boutique agency representing dancers, choreographers, actors, singers, and specialty talent. Originally from Buffalo, NY, she combines her background in journalism, marketing, and design with a passion for developing artists and building lasting careers. Inspired in part by watching her daughter Solace pursue her own professional path, Karynn launched FreshTalent Group in 2016 to create a trustworthy, family-centered approach to talent representation. She is known for guiding artists holistically — from development and branding to booking and long-term strategy — always prioritizing longevity over quick wins. Under her leadership, the agency has worked with major networks and award-winning artists across country, pop, gospel, and hip-hop. Beyond her professional accomplishments, Karynn is a devoted Buffalo Bills fan, enjoys crocheting and crafting, and is most proud of the community and culture she has built through mentorship, integrity, and heart.
Website: www.freshtalentgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/freshtalentgroup/ | |||
| 130 - Austin Lee: Netflix Star Search, Lady Gaga, Doechii, A Week Away: The Series, The Late Late Show with James Corden, and HST Alumni | 26 Apr 2026 | 00:38:17 | |
Interview Date: April 19th, 2026 Episode Summary In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast, Austin Lee shares his inspiring journey from a young boy in Orlando putting on living room performances for his family to becoming a working professional dancer in Los Angeles. He reflects on how dance immediately clicked for him after trying many other sports, and how winning a Hollywood Summer Tour scholarship at his very first convention opened his eyes to the possibilities of a real career in dance. From moving to LA alone at just 15 years old to training in the Launch program at The Space, Austin’s story is a powerful example of commitment, independence, and trusting your path from a very young age. Austin also talks candidly about the difficult in-between years of training and transition, when many dancers are not yet booking regularly, and emphasizes the importance of patience, mindset, and trusting your timing. He shares standout moments from his career, including working with Lady Gaga, performing on Star Search, and building momentum through high-level opportunities that followed. Throughout the conversation, he offers honest advice on comparison, recovery, community, financial wisdom, speaking up for yourself, and staying open to the many skills a professional dance career may require. His message to dancers is clear: trust your talent, stay consistent, and don’t give up just because someone else’s timeline looks different from yours. Top 10 Show Notes
Biography: Austin Lee is a Los Angeles–based professional dancer, choreographer, and artist originally from Orlando, Florida. Renowned for his versatility, precision, and determination, Austin has built a career spanning television, film, music videos, and live performance. His recent credits include being the Dance Champion and Finalist on Netflix’s Star Search with his collective “Movement 55”, working with Lady Gaga on “Abracadabra (Fan Edit)” and appearing in Doechii’s “Anxiety.” Austin has also shared the stage with acclaimed artists such as New Kids On The Block, Jordan Fisher, JoJo Siwa, Snow Wife, and Tash Blake, and has been featured in high-profile creative collaborations including Google, GoPro x Derek Hough and etc. His television and film work includes the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade, The Late Late Show with James Corden, So You Think You Can Dance, NBC’s World of Dance, Disney’s Fam Jam, Amazon Prime’s Tiny Dancers, and A Week Away: The Series. A graduate of the prestigious Launch Training Program at The Brea Space, Austin dedicated five years to refining his craft while cultivating lasting relationships within the industry. He currently travels nationwide as a Radix Pro Assistant, working alongside renowned choreographers such as Brian Friedman, Tessandra Chavez, and Tyce Diorio, bringing inspiration, mentorship, and high-level artistry to dancers across the country. Grounded in authenticity and driven by a passion for storytelling through movement, Austin continues to carve out a powerful creative voice. As both a performer and collaborator, he remains committed to growth, connection, and pushing the boundaries of what dance can communicate—marking him as an artist to watch as his career continues to unfold. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/austinblaiselee/ | |||
| 129: Alicia Mae Holloway - Dance Theatre of Harlem, Alicia Keys, Aretha Franklin, Victoria Secret, People Magazine | 19 Apr 2026 | 01:29:27 | |
Interview Date: April 12th, 2026 Episode Summary In this episode of The Business of Dance Podcast, Alicia Mae Holloway shares her extraordinary journey from a small-town competition dancer in West Virginia to building a multifaceted career in ballet, commercial dance, modeling, acting, and social media. She reflects on knowing from the age of three that dance was her purpose, and how that conviction led her to leave home at just 13 years old to pursue elite ballet training. From earning a full scholarship to the School of American Ballet to landing her first professional contracts, Alicia’s story is one of deep faith, resilience, and bold commitment to her dreams. Alicia also opens up about the realities of a long professional career: painful auditions, injuries, rejection, career pivots, and the mental challenges that dancers face when their identity is tied so closely to performance. She shares how Dance Theatre of Harlem shaped her artistry, how social media unexpectedly expanded her career, and why authenticity matters more than perfection in today’s entertainment world. Her advice to young dancers is both practical and inspiring: stay true to yourself, embrace being multidimensional, and remember that rejection is often redirection. Top 10 Show Notes
Biography:Alicia Mae Holloway is from Morgantown, West Virginia and began dancing when she was three years old at Kat and Company Dance Studio. In 2007, Alicia began taking classes at Morgantown Dance Studio. She also trained at Central Pennsylvania Youth Ballet and the University of North Carolina School of the Arts before attending the School of American Ballet from 2011–2015. Alicia has attended the Boston Ballet Summer Dance Program, as well as Pacific Northwest Ballet. She began her professional career dancing with the Suzanne Farrell Ballet, and completed seven seasons with the Dance Theatre of Harlem where she has worked with Alicia Keys, Aretha Franklin, and Gladys Knight. She has shot music videos with Grammy award–winning artist KEM, as well as JAGMAC and Eryn Martin, and can be seen in Google commercials, Maybelline commercials, and in Glamour Magazine’s November issue, as well as an online feature of Who Wore What, and most recently, has a story live now with PEOPLE Magazine regarding her audition process and training with the Rockettes. In 2023, Alicia appeared on the cover of PEOPLE, further expanding her national visibility. Alicia was also the Lead Principal Dancer in Josh Bergasse’s Sugar Hill: The Ellington/Strayhorn Nutcracker, bringing new life to the iconic reimagining of the classic ballet. She has served as the co-chairwoman of the School of American Ballet’s Visiting Faculty Program and was a Princess Grace Award nominee. Alicia was cast as The Lady in a Yellow Dress in the revival of Broadway’s show CONTACT, by Susan Stroman.
Connect on Social Media: Instagram: Https://www.instagram.com/aliciamaeholloway Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aliciamaeholloway | |||
| 128- Loïc Mabanza: Madonna, Usher, Vogue Germany, Michael Jackson, Moon Knight and CEO of Underground Justice Studios. | 16 Apr 2026 | 01:39:42 | |
Interview Date: March 29 Episode Summary: Loïc reflects on the mindset that carried him through uncertainty, rejection, and doubt. He speaks candidly about being underestimated by peers, yet staying committed to a vision that others could not see. Rather than waiting for the perfect opportunity, he focused on consistent action, trusting that small steps would eventually lead him where he wanted to go. His story is a powerful example of how clarity, preparation, and resilience can turn impossible dreams into real opportunities. Throughout the conversation, Loïc shares pivotal moments that shaped his career, from using street performances to fund travel, to taking bold risks like crashing auditions and placing himself in rooms he technically was not invited into. Those decisions became defining turning points that led to major professional breakthroughs, including opportunities on the global stage. This episode is filled with wisdom for dancers and creatives carving out their own path. Loïc challenges the idea of having a “plan B,” encouraging artists to fully back themselves while building confidence through small wins and real-life evidence. His perspective is a reminder that success is rarely linear, but with vision, adaptability, self-belief, and persistence, it becomes possible to create a career far beyond what others expect. Shownotes: Biography: His commercial portfolio includes campaigns for major global brands such as Louis Vuitton, Givenchy, Ralph Lauren, Levi’s, Swarovski, Diesel, Timberland, Samsung, Toyota, and Equinox, where he became a brand ambassador following the “Life is the Luxury” campaign. He has also appeared in respected editorial publications including W Magazine, Vogue Germany, Vogue Arabia, V Magazine, GQ, and Harper’s Bazaar Brazil. As an actor, Loïc has appeared in Moon Knight (2022), And Just Like That... (2023), Girls5eva (2024), and The Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins (2026). He is also the founder and CEO of Underground Justice Studios, a creative studio and production company, and has written, directed, and produced multiple short films and music videos. His debut novel is set for release later this year. Connect with Loïc: | |||
| 127- Mark Samuels: Descendants, So You Think You Can Dance Canada, Mariah Carey, Missy Elliott, Juno Awards, Mary J Blige and Do Dat Crew. | 05 Apr 2026 | 01:19:42 | |
Interview Date: March 22nd, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode, Menina Fortunato sits down with choreographer and movement director Mark Samuels for a conversation about persistence, timing, and carving out your own path in the dance industry. Mark shares how he started out as a self-taught dancer in Toronto, learning choreography by recording music videos on VHS tapes and studying them frame by frame long before YouTube or social media existed. He opens up about his early years dancing with Luther Brown’s group Do Dat, how that experience launched his professional career, and the bold move that changed everything: cold-calling contacts connected to a music video he loved until one of those calls led him to New York for a Mariah Carey project. Mark also reflects on the importance of saying yes, staying versatile, building relationships, and continuing to train beyond your comfort zone. From assisting Paul Becker for years to choreographing recent major projects like the Juno Awards, Mark’s story is a reminder that longevity in this industry comes from talent, initiative, and consistency. Show Notes 0:01 — Mark’s dance career and major credits intro 2:45 — Learning dance from VHS and MuchMusic 10:33 — Joining Luther Brown’s Do Dat crew 13:15 — Early paid gigs and touring Canada 17:40 — Assisting Paul Becker for years in film 21:05 — Mariah Carey story begins with cold-calling 34:36 — “Say yes and figure it out” 45:22 — Biggest mistake: not training in more styles 57:56 — “Contacts equals contracts” career lesson 1:33:31 — Slow growth, patience, and next goals matter
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| 126 - Jason Williams: So You Think You Can Dance, Lady Gaga, High School Musical, Beyoncé, Dancing with The Stars and NOIR Dance Company. | 29 Mar 2026 | 01:18:07 | |
Interview Date: March 8th, 2026 In this inspiring episode, Jason Williams shares his journey from a curious three-year-old stepping into dance class to becoming a globally recognized performer, choreographer, and creative visionary. He reflects on the pivotal moments that shaped his career—from boldly inserting himself into opportunities like So You Think You Can Dance to working with icons such as Lady Gaga and Beyoncé. Jason emphasizes the power of initiative, reminding dancers that “visibility is your responsibility” and that success often comes from fearlessly putting yourself in the room. As the conversation unfolds, Jason opens up about his evolution beyond performing and into creative direction and entrepreneurship. Feeling unfulfilled despite professional success, he made the bold decision to pivot, ultimately creating his own work, including a sold-out production in New York. His story highlights a powerful truth: when opportunities don’t exist, you must create them. This shift into producing and directing allowed him to fully step into his identity as a visionary artist. The episode also dives into mindset, identity, and the balance between artistry and business. Jason introduces a memorable analogy of being a “dolphin among sharks,” encouraging dancers to embrace both their creativity and business acumen. Through Q&A with young dancers, he reinforces the importance of versatility, authenticity, and personal branding—leaving listeners with actionable advice and a renewed sense of empowerment in navigating the dance industry. Shownotes:
Biography: Jason Williams is a movement architect, dancer, director, and visionary whose work pulses with spirit, sensuality, and soul. Rooted in culture and shaped by experiences, his artistry is spiritual, intentional, and joy-forward—crafted to move both body and soul. A finalist on So You Think You Can Dance (Season 2), Jason has built an international career across film, television, stage, and commercial work. His credits include High School Musical, FAME, Dirty Dancing, and Hairspray LIVE, with TV appearances on RuPaul’s Drag Race, POSE, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, Dancing with the Stars, SNL, and more. He’s performed with icons like Beyoncé, Lady Gaga, Mary J. Blige, Alicia Keys and many more. He has graced stages at the Oscars, BET Awards, MTV Awards, Emmys, and Billboard Music Awards. Jason wrote, directed, choreographed, and produced The Jason Williams Experience: LIVE!—a sold-out production at NYC’s Alvin Ailey Theater. In 2024, he launched NOIR, a bold new dance company and platform celebrating excellence, identity, and community. Internationally known for his jazz-rooted technique, soulful musicality, and transformational teaching, Jason’s choreography awakens presence, honors lineage, and ignites joy. With a signature style blending foundation, feeling, and truth, his work isn’t just unforgettable—it’s undeniable. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: thejasonwilliamsexperience Website: https://www.thejasonwilliamsexperience.com/ | |||
| 125- Jamie Hodgins: International Competitive Dance Registry, Camp Rock 2, Hairspray Tour, and Madonna. | 22 Mar 2026 | 00:59:42 | |
Interview Date: March 8th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this episode of the Business of Dance Podcast, Menina Fortunato sits down with Jamie Hodgins, Executive Director of the International Competitive Dance Registry (ICDR). Jamie shares his journey from starting dance at 16 in Ottawa to building a multifaceted career as a performer, choreographer, producer, and casting professional. His career includes projects such as Camp Rock 2, touring productions like Hairspray, and collaborations with major artists and productions. Throughout the conversation, Jamie discusses the importance of perseverance, networking, and creating opportunities in the dance industry. He shares lessons from auditions, touring, and working behind the scenes, offering practical advice for dancers who want to expand their careers beyond performing. The episode also highlights Jamie’s current mission with ICDR, a new initiative designed to bring greater fairness, structure, and recognition to the competitive dance industry. By creating verified digital records of dancers’ achievements and participation, ICDR aims to give dancers a lasting portfolio of their work while helping move the industry toward greater transparency and credibility. Shownotes: 0:00 – Introduction and podcast setup with mentees 4:01 – Guest introduction: Jamie Hodgins career highlights 6:32 – Jamie starts dancing at 16 in Ottawa 8:00 – Reality show leads to Toronto career move 11:00 – Transition from performer to production roles 13:32 – Advice: say yes and build relationships 16:30 – Manifesting and booking Camp Rock 2 20:00 – Importance of networking and industry relationships 25:56 – Ariana Grande performance pay reality check 31:01 – Introduction to ICDR and dancer digital identity 35:15 – Vision for ICDR and industry structure 38:48 – Future features: dancer profiles and insurance 41:08 – Q&A: benefits of ICDR for dancers 46:23 – Favorite career moment performing in Hairspray 1:02:00 – Inspiration, individuality, and memorable audition story Biography:Jamie Hodgins is Executive Director of the International Competitive Dancer Registry (ICDR) with 25+ years in competitive dance as a performer, choreographer, adjudicator, competition director, casting agent, and producer. His performance and production credits span major commercial and stage work — including CAMP ROCK 2, Hairspray Tour, collaborations with Madonna, Ariana Grande, Nick Jonas, Demi Lovato, and creative work for the Toronto Symphony Orchestra, National Ballet of Canada, Pepsi, and The Amazing Race Canada. At ICDR Jamie is leading the push to modernize dance with a centralized, privacy‑first verification system that protects dancer media, confirms identities and eligibility, and creates portable verified records of achievement. Inspired by the standards and protections in youth sport, his mission is to unite studios and events around fairness, transparency, and safer opportunities for dancers. Jamie blends artistic credibility with systems‑level change — a committed innovator focused on safeguarding dancers and strengthening the future of the industry. Connect on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/jamie_hodgins/ https://www.instagram.com/icdr.dance/
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| 124: Ayesha Orange - FAME, Earth Wind and Fire, Austin Powers, Rihanna's Associate Choreographer, Usher and Mariah Carey. | 15 Mar 2026 | 01:25:39 | |
Interview Date: March 1st, 2026 Episode Summary: Ayesha Orange joins the Business of Dance to share her incredible journey from a late-starting dancer to one of the most versatile performers in the commercial dance world. Starting as a cheerleader in California, Ayesha discovered dance at 17 and trained under legendary choreographer Marguerite Derricks at Tremaine Studios. Despite feeling behind technically, she pushed through self-doubt and quickly found herself working professionally, landing early credits including the film Austin Powers and touring internationally in the musical Fame. Her career exploded as she toured the world with Earth, Wind & Fire and performed alongside major artists including Mariah Carey, Usher, Pink, and Jennifer Hudson. Ayesha shares behind-the-scenes stories from award shows, music videos, and television appearances, revealing the realities of working with artists and choreographers at the highest level of the industry. Now working frequently as an associate choreographer and movement director, Ayesha discusses the transition from performer to creative collaborator. She opens up about confidence struggles, the importance of intuition, the realities of career highs and lows, and the power of simply showing up. Her advice for the next generation of dancers highlights resilience, relationships, and the mindset needed to build a sustainable career in the dance industry. Show notes: 0:00 – Welcome and introduction to Ayesha Orange 4:05 – Ayesha’s career highlights and early credits 7:14 – Touring with Earth, Wind & Fire memories 9:20 – Starting dance at 17 through cheerleading 11:35 – Training under Marguerite Derricks at Tremaine 15:52 – Deciding dance would become her career 19:03 – Alex Magno and key early mentorships 21:54 – First major job touring Fame in Germany 22:54 – Joining Earth, Wind & Fire world tour 28:20 – Favorite choreographers and creative process 32:55 – Working with Pink and artist professionalism 39:10 – Confidence struggles early in career 50:31 – Memorable AMA performance story 1:11:38 – Navigating career highs and dry spells 1:39:10 – Business advice: relationships and intuition Biography: AYESHA ORANGE is a prolific Dancer, Choreographer, and Movement Director with a career spanning nearly 30 years across the commercial and theatrical landscapes. Known as a versatile "chameleon" of movement, Ayesha’s reputation is built on her ability to execute any style and help bring any creative vision to life, regardless of the scale or medium. As a performer, Ayesha has graced stages from Madison Square Garden to Caesars Palace, appearing with icons including Mariah Carey, Usher, Pink, and Jennifer Hudson. Her extensive credits include over 20 films, 40 music videos, and 60 television shows, including the Oscars, AMAs, and VMAs. Transitioning into leadership, she has served as an Associate Choreographer for global stars like Rihanna, The Weeknd, Sia, and Selena Gomez. From 2023 to 2025 Ayesha served as the Rehearsal Director for the Los Angeles Contemporary Dance Company (LACDC), where she bridges the gap between creative vision and technical execution. From world tours to burlesque, and from performing on-camera to guiding artists through their own movement language, Ayesha remains a foundational force in the dance community. Connect on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/aorange/ | |||
| 123- Maycee Steele: Tate Mcrae, Maluma, Demi Lavato, Doja Cat, Viral Cuff It Challenge. | 08 Mar 2026 | 00:58:19 | |
Interview Date: February 22nd, 2026 Episode Summary: In this interview, Maycee Steele shares how she went from being a Kansas City convention kid to building a sustained LA career—booking major moments like Taylor Swift (Billboard Music Awards), Doja Cat (Coachella), and working with J.Lo, before becoming widely recognized through Tate McRae’s tour. She breaks down what tour life actually looks like (buses, no hotels, arena call times), how relationships and reputation lead to direct bookings, and why branding (including her red hair era) can help you stand out—but only if the training and consistency back it up. She also gives practical advice on moving to LA, networking, staying versatile, protecting your mental health on long jobs, and building multiple income streams through brand deals and social media representation (CAA)—plus the reality check that even at a high level, you may still have to audition (like she did for Demi Lovato). Show notes: 0:00 — Official intro + major tour credits Biography: Maycee Steele is a Los Angeles based professional dancer from Kansas City known for her powerful stage presence and strong on camera performance quality. She has performed on The Oscars, The Grammys, the Billboard Music Awards, and the Latin American Music Awards. Maycee has completed three major international arena tours, including the Think Later World Tour and the Miss Possessive Tour with Tate McRae, and a world tour with Maluma. She also recently booked the Demi Lovato Tour, further solidifying her status as a top tier commercial touring dancer. Her music video credits include She’s All I Wanna Be and It’s Ok I’m Ok by Tate McRae, and No Broke Boys by Tinashe. Throughout her career, she has performed alongside global artists including Jennifer Lopez, Doja Cat, Taylor Swift, Maluma, and Dove Cameron. Maycee is also recognized for co creating the viral #CuffItChallenge, and she continues to expand her career across touring, television, film, and digital media. | |||
| 122- Curt Hansen: Wicked on Broadway, Nickelodeon’s Big Time Rush, Kinky Boots, 567 Sing Vocal Coach. | 01 Mar 2026 | 00:58:08 | |
Interview Date: February 1st, 2026 Episode Summary: Broadway veteran Curt Hansen shares his journey from a quiet kid in small-town Wisconsin to starring on Broadway in Hairspray and spending eight years in Wicked as Fiyero. Along the way, he opens up about booking early, being recast from Nickelodeon’s Big Time Rush, working alongside Ariana Grande before her pop superstardom, and learning how to handle the mental side of auditioning. Now the founder of 567 Sing, Curt helps dancers become confident, audition-ready triple threats. In this episode, he breaks down practical strategies for choosing audition songs, building vocal strength, managing nerves, and balancing singing with intense dance schedules. It’s an honest, motivating conversation about preparation, resilience, and why singing “isn’t that deep”—if you do the work. Shownotes: 0:00 – Welcome + how Curt and Menina connected through Instagram 9:15 – Small-town beginnings: choir sparks his performing path 11:29 – Open call breakthrough → booking Hairspray on Broadway 16:07 – Big Time Rush: cast, recast, and resilience 20:06 – Ariana Grande story + booking Wicked as Fiyero 22:23 – Eight years with Wicked: tours, Broadway, meeting his wife 27:18 – Why dancers must learn to sing (and how to start) 37:24 – Choosing an audition song + preparation strategy 1:00:00 – Balancing intense dance training with vocal goals 1:09:17 – Final advice: treat auditions like performances, not pressure Biography: Curt Hansen is a Broadway performer with a 15-year professional career across theatre, television, and music. He’s appeared in Broadway shows including Hairspray as Link Larkin, Kinky Boots as Charlie Price, and Next to Normal opposite Tony Award winner Alice Ripley, and was also part of Nickelodeon’s Big Time Rush. His biggest claim to fame, however, was starring as the Winkie Prince, Fiyero Tigelaar, in Wicked on Broadway.
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| 121 - Tony G: Bring it On Franchise, Olivia Rodrigo, Brittany Spears, Kids Bop, The Masked Singer and The Birdcage. | 23 Feb 2026 | 00:58:56 | |
Interview Date: February 8th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this powerful and entertaining episode of The Business of Dance, Menina Fortunato sits down with legendary casting director, choreographer, and creative producer Tony Gonzalez (Tony G). With credits spanning the Bring It On franchise, Olivia Rodrigo’s “Good 4 U,” Britney Spears’ Femme Fatale Tour, Wayne’s World, The Birdcage, The Masked Singer, and Kids Bop, Tony shares the real story behind his decades-long career in Hollywood. From being told he was “too short” and “not the look,” to building an empire rooted in hustle and business savvy, Tony proves longevity comes from mindset—not just movement. Tony dives deep into the difference between being talented and being bookable, why dancers must understand they are a business first, and how listening (ears before movement) is the true audition superpower. He unpacks pivotal career moments—including being fired from the first Bring It On film only to choreograph the next six installments—and how advocating for dancers’ pay shaped his reputation. From TikTok virality (“Unk” with 315K+ followers) to creative directing large-scale productions, Tony reminds dancers that opportunity is everywhere—not just in LA or New York. This episode is perfect for dancers who want longevity, leadership, and a competitive edge in auditions, choreography, and beyond. Shownotes: (0:00) – Intro to Tony G (11:50) – Early roots: Soul Train to modern dance (14:11) – Meeting Paula Abdul & industry breakthrough (19:56) – Rejection from agents & pivot to choreography (24:27) – Wayne’s World & Birdcage career milestones (28:32) – Fired from Bring It On, built the franchise (31:29) – Audition advice: ears first, then movement (36:53) – Creative director vs. choreographer explained (43:53) – TikTok fame: “Rooftop Tony” & 315K followers (1:09:16) – Final message: you are the business Biography: With four decades of genre-shaping experience in entertainment, Tony Gonzalez—better known as Tony G—is a creative force in Hollywood. A casting director, acclaimed choreographer, creative director, and producer, his work spans dance, film, television, and music videos. Tony G has shaped movement and storytelling across more than 360 broadcast television commercials, iconic episodic and sitcom series including The Office, Community, Up All Night, and 3rd Rock from the Sun, as well as feature films such as Universal Pictures’ Bring It On franchise. Known for capturing the essence of movement on screen, Tony G thrives in the moment—crafting, adjusting, and elevating choreography instantly on set. His passion for teaching while creating fuels collaboration and opportunity, resulting in bold staging, electric flow, and unforgettable visual storytelling. Whether on a film, television, commercial, or music video set, Tony G delivers precision, adaptability, and undeniable vibe. Connect on Social Media: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tonygcast/ Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@gfresh | |||
| 120- Jada Specht: Jason Darulo, Teyana Taylor, Nelly, Busta Rhymes, Disneyland and HST Alumni. | 15 Feb 2026 | 01:09:03 | |
Interview Date: January 11th, 2026 Episode Summary: In this special two-part episode of The Business of Dance, Menina Fortunato sits down with rising professional dancer Jada Specht for an honest, real-time look at what it truly takes to build a career in today’s commercial dance industry. Joining the conversation directly from rehearsals and then again from home, Jada shares her journey from small-town beginnings to touring internationally with Jason Derulo, highlighting the discipline, adaptability, and mindset required to stay booked—and stay sane—on the road. Across the Q&A, Jada offers practical insight into transitioning from the competition world into professional work, emphasizing diversified training, research, and preparation. She breaks down what actually makes a dancer valuable to major artist teams—beyond technique—including professionalism, kindness, reliability, and being someone others want to spend long days with on tour. The conversation also dives into audition strategy, how she got signed by an agent, the realities of re-auditioning while already on tour, and why showing up—even when not “picked”—can change everything. The episode wraps with candid advice on finances, side hustles, self-care, recovery, and longevity. From warm-ups and flexibility to mindset, consistency, and treating your dance career like a full-time job, Jada’s story is both motivating and grounding. This episode is especially valuable for dancers preparing to move to LA, navigating auditions, or learning how to sustain momentum when bookings feel uncertain. Shownotes: (0:00) – Welcome + guest introduction (4:52) – Behind rehearsals: re-auditioning while on tour (7:30) – Transitioning from competition to professional dancer (10:22) – Researching choreographers, artists, and decision-makers (15:16) – What she’d change: training earlier, broader styles (17:35) – What makes dancers valuable on major tours (21:40) – Moving to LA: fear, readiness, and mindset shift (29:58) – LA checklist: agent, headshots, demo reel, profiles (36:34) – Side hustles, finances, and surviving between bookings (45:43) – Recovery, self-care, and protecting your body Biography: Dancing for over 17 years and recently moving to LA to pursue her dreams, Jada Specht has assisted and trained under many industry choreographers that has led her to where she is today. She is currently on tour with Jason Derulo and has worked with artists such as Teyana Taylor, Nelly, Busta Rhymes. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jadaspecht/ | |||
| 119- Sarah Mitchell: Knicks City Dancer, Christina Aguilera, NFL Patriots Cheerleader, Britney Spears’ Residency, Olivia Rodrigro's Movement Coach. | 08 Feb 2026 | 01:04:54 | |
Interview Date: December 14th, 2025. In this episode of Business of Dance, Menina sits down with veteran performer and powerhouse industry staple Sarah Mitchell, who joins the conversation nine months pregnant and still glowing (literally). Sarah takes us back to her beginnings in Western Massachusetts—starting dance at two-and-a-half, falling in love with NYC after seeing the Rockettes at age nine, and boldly moving to New York City with limited money but unstoppable determination. From becoming a Patriots cheerleader in high school (and earning a Super Bowl ring) to landing the Knicks City Dancers through a Good Morning America public vote, Sarah breaks down how dance teams can be a career-launching network, training ground, and built-in community for dancers moving to major markets. Sarah shares a full-circle story that shaped her career: after moving to LA with no plan besides “I have to be here,” she booked American Gladiators—only for the dance cast to be cut. That “loss” led directly to her booking a Jell-O commercial, meeting Jerry Slaughter, and soon finding herself dancing with Christina Aguilera—the same artist she once watched from the audience dreaming of being on stage. From there, the episode dives into Sarah’s long-running work with major artists and productions, including Christina Aguilera (spanning roughly 2007/2008 to 2024), Britney Spears’ Vegas residency, Burlesque, and the realities of auditioning, touring, and navigating the emotional highs and lows of a freelance performance career—especially as life expands into marriage and motherhood. Shownotes: (0:00) – Welcome Biography: A dancer and choreographer with over 20 years of experience, Mitchell has toured and performed with artists such as Christina Aguilera, Katy Perry, Pitbull and Dua Lipa. She co-starred on the E! Network’s The Dance Scene and has had featured appearances in films such as Burlesque, La La Land, and Music and Lyrics. Sarah performed with Britney Spears in her Las Vegas residency “Piece of Me” for five years, and has appeared on numerous television and award shows including The Voice, Dancing with the Stars, American Housewife and Oprah. For the last decade, Sarah has worked with the NFL and choreographed for the NBA, including multiple NBA All Star Game performances. She recently worked as movement director for Olivia Rodrigo, Christina Aguilera’s new perfume campaign and Aveda. Sarah is also a producer as well as an editor and a mother. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamsarahmitchell/ | |||
| 118- Brooke Lipton: Emmy Nominated Choreographer, Glee, Palm Royale, Britney Spears, Madonna, and Dancing with the Stars. | 01 Feb 2026 | 01:20:44 | |
Interview date: December 7th, 2025 Episode Summary: Brooke Lipton—Emmy-nominated choreographer and longtime Hollywood Vibe faculty member—joins Business of Dance to share her journey from booking her first professional job at 12 to building a lasting career in dance, television, and choreography. She reflects on moving to Los Angeles at 18, training relentlessly, learning how to care for her body, and developing the discipline needed to survive in a competitive industry. Brooke opens up about touring with Britney Spears, becoming a young mother, and making the pivotal transition from performer to choreographer. She breaks down how assisting, understanding life on set, and respecting every department shaped her leadership style and allowed her to create healthier, more sustainable environments for dancers. In the Q&A, Brooke delivers honest advice on confidence, comparison, and work ethic—urging dancers to go “full out,” attack their weaknesses, stay adaptable, and remember that joy and resilience are essential to longevity in this industry. Shownotes: (0:00) – Welcome + introduction to Brooke Lipton
Biography: Brooke Lipton’s energy is contagious. Originally known as an exceptional natural dancer, she is now an accomplished choreographer who thoroughly understands the requirements of dramatic TV photography and production. A native of Phoenix, AZ, Brooke was already a rising star in the LA dance scene at the age of 12. She moved to LA to pursue her dream of being a professional dancer, and has since worked with artists including Madonna, Janet Jackson, Beyonce, and Paula Abdul. Brooke toured the world with Britney Spears for over eight years, including the “Dream Within A Dream” Tour, “The Onyx Hotel” Tour and “Circus” promo tour. Later, she was a key member of the choreographic team on the mega-hit Fox TV series “Glee”, starting as Associate and rising to Choreographer over the show’s six seasons, during which the team created more than 750 musical numbers as well as the show’s two live-performance world tours, plus “The Glee Project” unscripted series and “Glee Live 3D The Movie”. Brooke’s work has also been featured on many other major TV series including “Dr. Odyssey”, “9-1-1: Lone Star”, “Dancing with the Stars”, “Lucifer”, “National Treasure”, “Bones”, and “American Horror Story”. Most recently, she choreographed seasons 1 and 2 of the magnificent new Apple+ series “Palm Royale”. As a choreographer, Brooke has worked with such iconic stars as Shirley MacLaine, Carol Burnett, Kate Hudson, Gwyneth Paltrow, Kristen Chenoweth and Ricky Martin, and has two Emmy nominations in Outstanding Choreography For Scripted Programming one for “Lucifer” and the other for season 1 of “Palm Royale”. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brooke_lipton/ | |||
| 117- Shanie Blais: Wicked Film, Karol G Tour, Camila Cabello & Doechii’s “Anxiety” | 25 Jan 2026 | 01:20:34 | |
Interview date: November 30th, 2025 Episode Summary: In this Business of Dance interview, Shanie Blais—Montreal-born, LA-based dancer—shares how her career evolved from a small-town studio kid into a working professional with major credits including the Wicked film, the Wicked live performance special, and a stadium/world tour with Karol G. Shanie walks listeners through her early training, her decision to leave Montreal to pursue bigger opportunities, and how she tested both New York and LA in “three months at a time” visits before fully committing. A major focus of the conversation is the O-1 visa journey: what “deal memos” actually are, how relationships and credibility build a strong case, and why being physically present in the market (classes, events, consistent visibility) matters. Shanie emphasizes that success today looks different than past generations—less open calls and more direct booking—meaning dancers must treat social media as their resume while still doing the real-world work of training and networking. Throughout the Q&A, Shanie offers grounded advice on staying versatile, building confidence and social skills, and protecting mental health in an industry that runs in seasons of highs and lows. From navigating London as a newcomer on Wicked to learning how to balance training with rest, her biggest message is clear: show up, be kind, plant seeds without expectations, and trust timing—because when it’s meant for you, it will align. Shownotes: (0:00) – Welcome + Wicked introduction (11:31) – Choosing LA over New York (14:59) – O-1 visa strategy & deal memos Biography: Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shanie_blais/ | |||
| 116- Eddie Garcia : Michael Jackson (2 Tours + Super Bowl), Janet Jackson, J Lo, Ariana Grande, Paula Abdul | 18 Jan 2026 | 01:40:30 | |
Episode Summary: In this powerful and deeply insightful episode, Eddie Garcia takes listeners on a journey through his extraordinary dance career—from a tap-dancing kid earning scholarships at Dupre’s to becoming one of the youngest dancers ever selected by Michael Jackson. Eddie reflects on the discipline and versatility that shaped him early on, blending classical training with emerging street styles that positioned him perfectly for the explosion of music videos in the 1980s. He shares behind-the-scenes stories from iconic projects including Smooth Criminal, the Bad and Dangerous World Tours, and his early work with Janet Jackson under Paula Abdul. Beyond the glamour, Eddie opens up about legal emancipation, learning professionalism at a young age, navigating rejection, and understanding the unspoken rules of auditions and touring life.Throughout the conversation, Eddie emphasizes the importance of humility, preparation, financial responsibility, and soul over tricks. He offers invaluable wisdom on longevity, leadership, and why relationships—not just talent—sustain a career. The episode closes with Eddie’s passion for mentorship and giving back through teaching and Camp MIA, reminding dancers that true success comes from authenticity, gratitude, and staying connected to why you fell in love with dance in the first place. Shownotes: (0:00) – Welcome, introductions, and session overview (9:30) – Early training: tap roots, Dupre’s scholarships (13:10) – Style fusion: breaking, jazz, ballet foundations (16:40) – First break: Janet Jackson via Paula Abdul (19:45) – Emancipation and preparing for adult responsibilities (21:15) – Michael Jackson audition and Smooth Criminal booking (26:40) – Touring young: Bad & Dangerous World Tours (31:00) – Lessons from Michael: timing, presence, musicality (44:00) – Auditions, rejection, resilience, and professionalism (1:49:00) – Teaching legacy, Camp MIA, giving back Biography: Eddie Garcia is an accomplished director, choreographer, dancer and multi-faceted entertainer with a solid reputation for choreography built upon decades of performing internationally alongside many of today’s most celebrated stars. At just 16 years old, Eddie’s incredible dancing style and technique delivered him to the world stage via many projects with Janet Jackson. He danced in some of her most iconic videos and performances of all time, including “Nasty”, “What Have You Done For Me Lately”, “When I Think of You” and the classic “Control” on the American Music Awards. By the time Eddie turned 17, “The King of Pop” himself, Michael Jackson, hand picked Eddie to join him. This began with “Smooth Criminal” and continued with other well known videos like the “The Way You Make Me Feel” and “Speed Demon”. Eddie spent the next five years dancing with Jackson on the record-breaking and internationally acclaimed “Bad” and “Dangerous” tours.It was during those invaluable years of touring and working on countless sets where Eddie fine-tuned his innate ability to direct, produce and choreograph. He has since lent his talent as a dancer and choreographer to many well known artists such as Jennifer Lopez, Paula Abdul, Mariah Carey and Ariana Grande. Eddie Garcia artistic fingerprint that has made him one of the most sought after names within the world of dance. He continues to enjoy engaging in new creative endeavors. | |||
| 115- Anabella Lenzu: 35 Years of Dance Theater, NYU Pedagogy & Global Arts Legacy | 11 Jan 2026 | 00:57:48 | |
Interview Date: November 16th, 2025 Episode Summary: In this insightful conversation, internationally acclaimed dancer, choreographer, scholar, and educator Anabella Lenzu shares the remarkable journey that shaped her 35-year career. Born in Argentina and classically trained in the prestigious Teatro Colón, Anabella traces her evolution from early flamenco lessons to mastering ballet, modern dance, and dance theater across Argentina, Italy, Chile, London, and New York. She opens up about immigrating with limited English, navigating cultural transitions, and building dance companies on multiple continents—including her current artistic home in Brooklyn. Anabella explains how her life as a choreographer, educator, writer, and mother intertwines into one seamless identity, offering dancers powerful lessons on artistic responsibility, lineage, and self-discovery. She breaks down why understanding dance history is essential, how to develop presence and technique beyond “steps,” and the courage required to create your own opportunities—including producing her own solo shows and writing two major books that took over a decade to complete. Listeners will walk away with deep insight into pedagogy, creative research, international work, the reality of running a school, and how to sustain a long-term career anchored in purpose—not trends. This episode is perfect for dancers, choreographers, educators, and anyone seeking to build an artistic life with depth, cultural awareness, and global perspective. Shownotes: (0:00) – Intro & welcome to Anabella Lenzu (1:20) – Early life in Argentina & first training (9:51) – Teatro Colón, ballet roots & modern shift (13:30) – Global travel shaping artistic identity (15:00) – Visa challenges & moving to New York (16:40) – Running a studio, family legacy in Argentina (23:16) – Scholarship, research, and importance of dance history (28:32) – Creating solo shows & artistic self-production (33:14) – Teaching at NYU & curriculum breakdown (37:40) – Her new book: 11 years of research Biography: Anabella Lenzu, originally from Argentina, is a dancer, choreographer, scholar, and educator with 35 years of international experience across Argentina, Chile, Italy, and the USA. She is the founder and director of Anabella Lenzu/DanceDrama, a New York–based company known for thought-provoking, historically conscious dance-theater. Since 2006, she has created 15 works and presented over 400 performances worldwide. Her award-winning dance films have screened in more than 200 festivals. Recognized by NDEO and NYSDEA for her innovative pedagogy and leadership, Lenzu continues to shape the field of dance education. She is the author of Unveiling Motion and Emotion(2013) and Teaching Dance Through Meaningful Gestures (2025), exploring the body as a vehicle for expression and philosophy. Connect on Social Media: Website: www.AnabellaLenzu.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anabellalenzu/ | |||
| 114- Rhonda Malkin: Radio City Rockette, Glee, Beyoncé, & New York City’s Go-To Dance Coach | 04 Jan 2026 | 01:12:57 | |
Interview Date: November 9th, 2025 Episode Summary: In this episode, Menina sits down with Rhonda Kaufman Malkin to unpack how a competition kid from Irvine turned a packed schedule of AP classes, UCLA coursework, the UCLA Dance Team, and three seasons as an LA Laker Girl into a long-term professional career. Rhonda shares how she balanced college with high-level pro work, why she switched from a dance major to sociology, and how booking five jobs in a row her senior year convinced her to go “all in” on dance after graduation. She walks listeners through her journey to Radio City—getting cut from her first Rockette audition, training herself between Disney shows, then booking the tour just before 9/11 and spending 12 seasons with the Rockettes (nine in NYC), seven of those as a swing, memorizing 36 tracks. Now the founder of Fusion Exercise, Rhonda has coached 75 dancers into the Rockettes and trains performers for Broadway, NFL/NBA teams, and precision work worldwide. She breaks down what makes precision dance different (counting, spacing grids, eye-high kicks, stamina), how the current three-day Rockette audition works, and why cross-training, professionalism, and genuine love of dance are non-negotiable. Shownotes: (8:52) Menina’s intro: Rhonda’s journey from UCLA to Rockettes.
Biography: Rhonda Kaufman Malkin is a 1996 honors graduate of Woodbridge High School in Irvine, CA. Rhonda was the first student from WHS to "crack Disney" and win the Outstanding Dancer Award for the Disneyland Creativity Challenge, a competition open to Orange County performing arts students. Her 13 years of dance training lead to a 17-year professional dance career in Los Angeles and New York City. While attending UCLA as a Sociology major, Rhonda performed as a Los Angeles Laker Girl for 3 years and received a championship ring for the 2000 inaugural season at Staples Center. After graduating UCLA in 2000, she attended seminary at Neve Yerushalayim and started her journey into Orthodox Jewish life. She continued dancing professionally, teaching dance, and choreography on the side while being a Radio City Music Hall Rockette for 12 years performing in multiple cities across America as well as Radio City Music Hall in the “Christmas Spectacular.” Rhonda was a Rockette Swing (memorizing all 36 Rockette dance tracks) for 7 of those years. Rhonda developed her famous FUSION EXERCISE fitness method and has trained celebrities including Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Karlie Kloss and others. Rhonda’s choreography talents lead her to choreographing for numerous live stage and livestream productions in NYC for Jewish artists Bracha Jaffe and Devorah Schwartz. She was Head Choreographer for Camp Mayor for 8 years, recently taught at the prestigious FAME school—La Guardia High School of the Arts, and Manhattan High School in Manhattan as Head Choreographer and Physical Education Department instructor. She recently choreographed for the Rockette Alumnae Association in “Talent is Timeless” performing off-Broadway at the United Palace Theater in NYC. As a Professional Dance Coach, she is honored to mention that 75 of her students have become Radio City Rockettes and was recently featured on NY’s PIX11 News. This is Rhonda’s 32nd year as a dance educator. She is a wife and mom to 3 kids. Connect on Social Media: TikTok: @fusion_exercise Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fusion_exercise/ | |||
| 113- Ryan Jenkins: Britain’s Got Talent, Matthew Bourne’s Swan Lake to Wicked & Phantom of the Opera | 04 Jan 2026 | 00:52:28 | |
Interview Date: October 26th, 2025 Episode Summary: In this uplifting episode, UK-based choreographer, educator, and West End performer Ryan Jenkins shares his extraordinary journey from a late-starting dancer at 14 to performing in some of London’s most iconic productions. Known for his work on Matthew Bourne’s Swan Lake, Wicked, Cabaret, Kismet, Phantom of the Opera, So You Think You Can Dance, and Dance Moms UK, Ryan reflects on how perseverance, professionalism, and positivity turned early setbacks into defining milestones.Ryan opens up about the rollercoaster moments that shaped his career—from working retail in London to suddenly joining the original West End cast of Wicked within days, learning the entire show in three days flat. He also shares behind-the-scenes stories from the ballet world, musical theatre, and TV, offering practical insights into casting, mindset, and time management. As a teacher and mentor, Ryan now directs the Elite Associates Program with the Acosta Dance Foundation, founded by ballet star Carlos Acosta, where he helps the next generation of artists reach their full potential.Whether you’re a dancer chasing your first contract or a professional redefining your career path, this conversation is packed with motivation, humor, and heart. Ryan’s message is clear: stay kind, stay ready, and never stop believing in your own timing—because the job meant for you won’t pass you by. Shownotes: (0:00) – Welcome & introduction to Ryan Jenkins and his West End legacy (7:34) – Joining the original Wicked cast with Idina Menzel (14:37) – Late start in dance at 14 and training at Bird College (16:56) – Making West End debut in Swan Lake with Matthew Bourne (19:22) – From “spritzing perfume” to Wicked in one week (20:30) – Balancing Cabaret, Kismet & Wicked simultaneously (22:21) – Competing on So You Think You Can Dance & Got to Dance (25:17) – Transitioning to choreography and Dance Moms UK (26:19) – Launching Acosta Dance Foundation’s Elite Associate Program (28:44) – Biggest lessons: likability, professionalism, and mindset Biography: Ryan has worked with the biggest creatives in the world including; Matthew Bourne, Arlene Philips, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Joel Schumacher, Peter Darling and Ashley Wallen. He has also shared the stage with stars such as; Kerry Ellis, Idina Menzal, Adam Cooper, Miriam Margolyes, and Adam Garcia. 2025 Ryan worked for Simon Cowell as casting specialist for Britain’ s got talent. The only teacher in the world to have taught the dancers from the hit US T.V show Dance Moms for Abby Lee Miller and as choreographer for UK TV version Dance Mums with Jennifer Ellison. Most notably known for appearing as a finalist in the top 20 in series 2, So You Think You Can Dance and Got to Dance, before this he had a flourishing career in London’s West End but not before gaining his first job at 19 in Matthew Bourne’s Swan Lake. Ryan was appointed as Dance Captain for Grease The Musical UK and European Tour, choreographed by Arlene Philips. Original London cast of Wicked, ENO (English National Opera)- Kismet , London Coliseum. Cabaret' musical Lyric theatre, by Javier de Fructos. Featured dancer - Andrew Lloyd Webber’s Phantom of the Opera the movie, directed by Joel Schumacher and choreographed by Peter Darling.Most recently started a new dance programme with Acosta dance foundation founded by Ballet star Carlos Acosta called Elite Associates. In 2025 he choreographed the music video 'The blossom and the mountain' which has been nominated all over the world in film festivals and won awards. Connect on Social Media: Website: https://www.ryanjenkins.co.uk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/realryanjenkins/ | |||
| 112- Dana Wilson: Justin Timberlake, La La Land, Choreographers Guild, "Words that Move Me" Podcast Host | 28 Dec 2025 | 01:06:45 | |
Interview Date: October 19th, 2025 Episode Summary: In this empowering episode, Dana Wilson—dancer, choreographer, creative director, and podcast host—joins The Business of Dance Podcast to share an inside look at her two-decade career working alongside icons like Justin Timberlake, Marty Kudelka, Baz Luhrmann, and Chris Scott. From her early years at the Michelle Latimer Dance Academy to performing on three world tours and serving on the Choreographers Guild, Dana reflects on what it takes to sustain longevity in entertainment while staying grounded in self-awareness, mindset, and creative purpose. She opens up about her first big break assisting Marty Kudelka and performing on Justin Timberlake’s FutureSex/LoveShow, her transition into choreography, acting, and voiceover work (Pinocchio, Elvis, In the Heights, La La Land), and the creation of her Words That Move Me podcast and coaching community. Dana also dives into how the dance industry has evolved—from agency systems to AI and the digital creator era—sharing invaluable advice on processing rejection, developing emotional resilience, and “turning the grave into a garden.” With wisdom, humor, and refreshing honesty, Dana reminds dancers that success is nonlinear, mentorship is invaluable, and feeling your feelings is a superpower. Shownotes: (0:00) – Opening chat: motherhood, dogs, and pre-interview setup (4:00) – Reviewing Dana’s career highlights and credits (8:45) – Starting the session: Justin Timberlake music intro (12:00) – Dana’s early dance training, family background, and move to LA (17:00) – Booking her first tour with Justin Timberlake and working with Marty Kudelka (22:00) – 20 years of collaboration with Justin: tours, SNL, and Super Bowl (27:00) – Creating Words That Move Me podcast + turning rejection into education (33:00) – The power of coaching, mindset, and mental health for artists (42:00) – The Choreographers Guild, AI, and how the dance industry is evolving (54:00) – Q&A: Finding mentors, dealing with rejection, and touring lessons Biography: "People who call Dana Wilson a “Joy Machine” are not wrong. Her work is a joy to behold and she is a joy to work with.Dana Wilson is a choreographer, performer, movement coach, educator, Apple Top 100 Performing Arts Podcast host, and activist who understands how to move real people.
Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danadaners/ Website: thedanawilson.com | |||
| 111- Mel Charlot - Lizzo Tour, Beyoncé, Broadway’s “Holler If You Hear Me,” & Judge on Révolution | 28 Dec 2025 | 01:40:35 | |
Interview Date: October 12th, 2025 Episode Summary: In this inspiring episode, international choreographer, performer, and TV judge MELCHARLOT shares her powerful journey from Montreal to the global stage. Known for her work with Lizzo, Beyoncé, Cardi B, and her Broadway debut in Holler If You Hear Me, MEL opens up about the challenges, sacrifices, and growth that shaped her as both an artist and mother.She reveals her evolution from competitive dancer to world tour performer, her experiences assisting industry legends like Tanisha Scott, and the life-changing opportunities that led to her judging roles on Révolution and Danse avec les Stars. MEL’s story blends passion with purpose as she discusses her commitment to mentorship, cultural representation, and balancing career with family.Listeners will take away invaluable insights on confidence, leadership, artistic identity, and creative process—from managing time and mental health to trusting your path even when it doesn’t go as planned. Whether you’re a student, professional, or aspiring choreographer, this episode is a masterclass in resilience, authenticity, and the business of dance. Shownotes:( 0:00) – Welcome & intro to MELCHARLOT and her global career (6:54) – From Montreal roots to working with Beyoncé & Lizzo (13:21) – Landing Broadway’s Holler If You Hear Me (22:45) – Becoming a judge on Révolution & Danse avec les Stars (41:31) – Performing on the Lizzo World Tour & family support (49:00) – Lessons on leadership, humility, and teamwork in dance (53:40) – Rejection, perseverance, and full-circle So You Think You Can Dance moment (58:30) – Balancing motherhood, marriage, and a dance career (1:06:26) – Creative process: how MEL builds choreography from emotion (1:53:12) – Closing inspiration: mentorship, gratitude & never stop being a student Biography: Mel Charlot is a respected choreographer, creative director, and celebrated television judge on Révolution (Canada’s #1 dance show) and Danse avec les Stars (Dancing with the Stars in France). Born and raised in Montreal, Canada in a Haitian household filled with music, she discovered her passion for movement at a young age—a passion that has carried her across stages and screens worldwide.Her career has spanned over two decades, evolving from competitive dancer to professional performer, Broadway artist, and now a sought-after choreographer and visionary in the entertainment industry between Canada, US and Europe. Charlot has worked with global icons such as Lizzo, Chris Brown, Beyoncé, P. Diddy, Kanye West, Faith Evans, Omarion, and many others. She has also been featured in major campaigns with Jordan/Nike, L’Oréal, and Makeup Forever, and has choreographed on hit television productions including So You Think You Can Dance, Lip Sync Battle,The Masked Singer and more…A World Choreography Award and UKMVA nominee, Mel Charlot continues to push creative boundaries while mentoring the next generation of dancers and choreographers. She brings a unique blend of artistry, professionalism, and authenticity to every project—whether on stage, on screen, or in the studio.Beyond her career, Mel is a proud wife and mother whose resilience and passion inspire others to live and move with purpose, power, and grace. Connect on Social Media: Website :Www.melcharlot.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/melcharlot/ | |||
| 110- Tina Landon: Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, Ricky Martin, Rihanna, Paula Abdul, Laker Girls, 9x MTV Nominee, Emmy-Nominated | 21 Dec 2025 | 01:03:11 | |
Interview Date: October 5th, 2025 Episode Summary: In this powerful and nostalgic episode, Emmy-nominated choreographer and MTV Award winner Tina Landon takes us behind the scenes of her legendary career shaping the choreography that defined an era of pop culture. From her early days as a Laker Girl under Paula Abdul to becoming the creative force behind Janet Jackson’s “If”, “The Velvet Rope Tour,” and Ricky Martin’s “Livin’ La Vida Loca,” Tina shares the artistry, discipline, and vision that made her one of the most sought-after choreographers in the world. Tina opens up about her journey transitioning from dancer to choreographer, how she built trust with industry icons, and what it takes to bring stories to life through movement. She discusses the evolution of dance over the decades—from the golden age of music videos to the rise of social media—and how professionalism, consistency, and genuine artistry still remain the keys to success. This episode is perfect for anyone striving to understand the bridge between commercial artistry and lasting impact — a true masterclass in dance history and creative leadership. Shownotes: (0:00) – Welcome & introduction to Tina Landon and her legendary career (3:15) – Tina’s start as a dancer & transition from Laker Girl to choreographer (7:40) – Founding her creative style: working with Janet Jackson & early MTV era (12:25) – Behind “If” & “The Velvet Rope Tour” – storytelling through choreography (22:10) – What makes a dancer stand out in auditions and rehearsals (35:05) – How the dance industry evolved from 90s tours to today’s viral world (50:12) – Professionalism, mindset, and respect in the rehearsal room (1:02:30) – The importance of longevity & self-care for working dancers (1:13:05) – Tina’s message: know your history, learn from the greats (1:16:16) – Gala of the Stars — Tina’s legacy & inspiration for the next generation Biography: Tina Landon is a multi award winning and Emmy nominated creative director/choreographer. She is best known for her sensual yet strong movement that dominated the landscape of dance in music videos and live tours since the mid 90’s. Some of her most memorable and signature moves can be seen on artists like Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, Rihanna, Jennifer Lopez, Christina Aguilera, Ricky Martin, Britney Spears and Shakira to name a few. Tina’s love and passion for dance began as early as she can remember when her mother of Mexican-American heritage and lover of dance and music, made sure her children would fare better by mandating dance lessons in their household. Falling in love with dance and yearning for more, Tina left her home in Lancaster, California to pursue her dreams in Hollywood. Auditioning for various dance productions around town, she landed a gig as a Laker Girl. She was well on her way, yet what could be considered a “big break” would be just the beginning when she was booked as a principal dancer for Michael Jackson’s “Smooth Criminal” music video. Tina’s hard work and commitment eventually landed her many dance roles in various music videos including her first spot as a touring dancer on Janet Jackson’s Rhythm Nation Tour. She eventually went on to choreograph Janet’s next two world tours “Janet” and “The Velvet Rope” which earned her an Emmy nomination for the HBO special. She has also directed and choreographed national and world tours for many other artists. Tina is a 9-time MTV Choreography Award nominee and a 2 time MTV Award recipient for Michael and Janet Jackson’s “Scream” and for Ricky Martin’s “Livin La Vida Loca’. Her latest passion is giving back and helping young dancers navigate careers in the music industry by sharing and coaching them through her extensive experience and knowledge. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamtinalandon/ | |||
| 109- Karl Flores: Grammy Performer Trainer, DOECHII, Kiana Lede, Redbull Dance, Oncloud. | 21 Dec 2025 | 00:50:32 | |
Interview Date: September 28th, 2025 Episode Summary: Strength & conditioning coach and dance athleticism specialist Karl Flores joins the Business of Dance for a science-meets-studio deep dive. Karl traces his path from competitive dancer to Equinox trainer to founder of Movement Society in Los Angeles, explaining how structured training, recovery, and style-specific programming extend dancers’ careers. He unpacks the “artist-athlete” mindset, common conditioning mistakes, injury-prevention fundamentals, and a practical training pyramid (aerobic base → strength → power). In Q&A, Karl tackles motivation, off-season vs. in-season “microdosing,” hypermobility strategies, rehab priorities, and genre needs—from ballet posture to breakers’ shoulder stability—closing with how dancers can work with him online. Shownotes: (0:00) – Welcome & intro to Coach Karl Flores and his expertise (5:49) – Karl’s journey from collegiate dancer to strength coach (9:05) – “Artist-Athlete” mindset: merging creativity and physicality (11:55) – Common dancer mistake: not strength training consistently (13:58) – Injury prevention through structured programs and recovery (15:36) – Ballet vs. breaking: training by style and muscle focus (17:30) – The three-tier pyramid: endurance, strength, power (20:23) – Mindset, confidence, and aligning body with intention (23:13) – Longevity: how training extends dance careers (34:12) – Off-season vs. in-season “microdosing” workout strategy Biography: Karl Flores is a Los Angeles–based strength and conditioning coach with over 10 years of experience, specializing in bridging the gap between athletic performance and dance. With a background in competitive dance, kinesiology, and exercise science, Karl is passionate about helping others unlock their fullest potential and achieve the best version of themselves through movement. Over the course of his career, Karl has worked with professional dancers, world tour performers, freestyle battle champions, and Grammy Award–winning music artists. His expertise spans injury prevention, musculoskeletal rehab, functional training, and optimizing both athletic and dance performance. Training Specialties: Injury Prevention Musculoskeletal Rehab Functional Training Athletic & Dance Performance Strength & Conditioning Education & Certifications: B.S. in Kinesiology & Exercise Science (Physiology Minor) Certified Strength & Conditioning Specialist (CSCS) DBC Level 1 Functional Movement Screen Level 1 Kettlebell Athletics Triggerpoint Therapy ViPR Precision Nutrition Level 1 (Pn1) Progressive Bodyweight Training Dynamic Sports Performance Certified Coach Kettlebell Coach University L1 Functional Range Conditioning (FRCms) Functional Range Assessment (FRA) Karl’s mission is simple: to empower artist-athletes with the tools, science, and confidence to perform at their highest level, while building longevity in their craft.
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| 108 - Carol Borjas Cantrall - Paul McCartney, Will Smith, Austin Powers , DWTS, Mother of Kylie Cantrall | 14 Dec 2025 | 01:15:29 | |
Interview Date: September 14th, 2025 Episode Summary:In this inspiring conversation, Carol Borjas Cantrell shares her remarkable evolution from a Venezuelan rhythmic gymnast to touring the world as a professional dancer and raising the next generation of talent, including her daughter Kylie Cantrell (Disney’s Descendants: The Rise of Red).Carol walks listeners through her early ballet training, her scholarship to Tremaine in Los Angeles, and how she built a 30-year career dancing for icons such as Paul McCartney, Lou Bega, and Brian McKnight. She opens up about adapting to the U.S. industry, navigating agencies and visas, and the lessons that have shaped both her and her daughter’s artistic paths.Throughout the episode, Carol offers practical insight on auditions, tour life, staying “camera-ready,” and balancing motherhood with a professional career. Her message to dancers is simple but powerful — prepare relentlessly, stay grounded, and do the brave thing, even when the path ahead feels uncertain.This episode is perfect for dancers, parents of young performers, and aspiring pros who want an inside look at what it takes to sustain longevity in the ever-changing dance world. Shownotes: (0:00) – Welcome & intro to Carol Borjas Cantrell’s journey (3:44) – Tour credits with Paul McCartney, Brian McKnight & Lou Bega (10:51) – Early training in Venezuela & rhythmic gymnastics foundation (13:56) – Tremaine scholarship & moving to L.A. at 17 (16:50) – Audition evolution: from in-person to self-tapes (21:37) – Visa journey & path to U.S. citizenship (29:32) – Tour highlights & behind-the-scenes moments (35:18) – Advice for Kylie on tour life & balance (47:42) – Teaching resilience & confidence to young performers (1:26:19) – Closing words: live your passion & stay camera-ready Biography: This Venezuelan born dancer/choreographer has over 20 years experience. She began with ballet and contemporary dance. Carol also trained in Rhythmic gymnastics for 12 years receiving numerous honors… including, five consecutive years, Venezuela’s “Best Gymnast”. Once she moved to Los Angeles she began working in the industry with artists like, Paul McCartney, (World tour), Country icons Brookes and Dunn, Hip Hop legends: Will Smith, P Diddy, Snoop Dogg, LL Cool J. Brian Mc Night etc. She has appeared in movies like Austin Powers, Cinderella Story & more. She hosted an Entertainment Television show called “Hablemos De Cine” on Azteca America, interviewing both Spanish and American celebrities. She has done several national TV commercials including Dodge Durango with Will Ferrel, Gain Detergent, AT&T, Pepsi, Sprite and many more. In television she has danced on MTV Movie Awards, Guys Choice awards, Image Awards etc. She appeared on television series like Alias, American Idol to name a few. For the past seven years Carol is the choreographer of a Spanish TV network ( Estrella TV) Choreographing, and appearing and some of the shows including the Spanish version of Dancing with the Stars, and Los Premios de la Radio a la musical regional Mexicana.Carol also had a special appearance, on the ABC series,"America's Got Talent.” Carol has appeared on several Warner Brothers productions for the famous series “Gilmore Girls” also Netflix shows “Fuller House”, “Jane the Virgin” and Show Time series “Penny Dreadful” and she recently also appeared on the new prequel “Dexter”. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caroljborjas?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ%3D%3D&utm_source=qr | |||
| 107- Juliet Prowse: The Legacy of Hollywood’s Golden-Era Icon, Can- Can, Frank Sinatra & Elvis Presley. | 14 Dec 2025 | 01:00:10 | |
Interview Date: August 24th, 2025 Episode Summary: In this captivating conversation, Juliet Prowse, author of Born to Dance, joins The Business of Dance Podcast to share the untold story of her legendary aunt, the late Juliet Prowse — a trailblazing British-South African dancer and actress who conquered Hollywood, Las Vegas, and Broadway. From performing alongside Frank Sinatra and Elvis Presley in Can-Can and G.I. Blues to headlining her own million-dollar Vegas residency, Big Juliet redefined what it meant to be a female entertainer in a male-dominated era. Little Juliet takes listeners behind the scenes of her research journey — discovering a red suitcase of letters, interviewing former collaborators, and piecing together the life of a woman who never waited for permission to shine. The discussion unpacks the discipline, athleticism, and business savvy that made Juliet Prowse one of the highest-paid performers of the 1970s, plus stories of her engagements to Sinatra, her friendship with Elvis, and her unstoppable work ethic that kept her dancing until her final days. This episode is perfect for dancers, musical-theatre artists, and history-minded creatives who want to learn from one of the greats — and be reminded that success is built on grit, artistry, and courage to create your own opportunities. Shownotes: (0:00) – Welcome & introduction to Juliet Prowse interview (3:00) – Little Juliet shares the story behind her famous name (13:18) – Discovering a red suitcase & inspiration to write Born to Dance (16:00) – Big Juliet’s early Hollywood years & Vegas debut (21:03) – Athleticism, costuming, and Bob Mackie’s extravagant designs (25:39) – Breaking barriers: creating her own Las Vegas show (31:22) – The million-dollar Desert Inn contract & Vegas legacy (36:29) – Life, love & rumors — Sinatra, Elvis, and beyond (41:23) – Performing through illness & leaving a lasting impact (1:03:00) – Lessons for today’s dancers: hard work, creativity, & legacy Biography: Juliet Prowse never intended on becoming an author, but when she spotted a little red suitcase in her parents’ attic, filled to the brim with articles about her famous aunt, the dancer/entertainer Juliet Prowse, she felt she just had to tell this story. As a seasoned communications professional, Juliet was used to writing, but to ensure the authenticity of her first book, Juliet waded through over 1 000 newspaper articles and letters, largely written by her dancing aunt to her mother (the author's grandmother), and spoke to over 20 people who had performed with Juliet. Known as Big Juliet and Little Juliet in the Prowse household, Little Juliet inherited her aunt’s athleticism and became a South African runner, but she was never as graceful as her famous aunt who was born to dance. Juliet has an MBA from the University of Cape Town and a science degree from the University of Nebraska. She lives in Cape Town where she is an avid theatregoer and sports lover. Connect on Social Media: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61572702340283 Website: www.julietprowse.com | |||
| 106- Aubrey Fisher: Viral Tiktok Dancer, Jason Derulo, Snoop Dogg & Kendrick Lamar | 07 Dec 2025 | 01:15:51 | |
Interview Date: August 10th, 2025 Episode Summary: In this powerful and uplifting episode, we sit down with Aubrey Fisher — dancer, recording artist, and creative powerhouse — who went from teaching himself choreography in his living room to sharing stages with Jason Derulo, Snoop Dogg, Kendrick Lamar, DaBaby, and Tyga. Aubrey opens up about his unique path into the entertainment industry, revealing how he went from a college basketball player to one of the most recognizable names in commercial dance. Raised by a musical family, including his mother Angie Fisher, a Grammy-nominated vocalist, Aubrey shares how faith, discipline, and divine timing shaped his evolution as both a performer and a person. He takes listeners behind the curtain of tour life — from the long rehearsals and creative highs to the loneliness and grind that come with chasing big dreams. Aubrey also discusses how he transitioned from dance into music, using his platform to inspire and connect through storytelling, vulnerability, and sound. Throughout the episode, Aubrey drops gems on consistency, humility, networking, and staying grounded, while encouraging the next generation of dancers to embrace their individuality and to never give up, even when the path isn’t linear. This episode is perfect for dancers, aspiring choreographers, and creatives who dream of turning passion into purpose — and proof that you don’t need a traditional background to make it to the top Shownotes: (0:00) – Welcome & intro to Aubrey Fisher’s journey (9:30) – Growing up dancing & balancing basketball dreams (11:56) – First dance class at Millennium Dance Complex (15:01) – Creating videos & finding confidence through content (18:37) – From 2017 videos to viral success (20:43) – Influence of Grammy-nominated mom, Angie Fisher (23:26) – Joining Jason Derulo’s tour & worldwide travel (27:14) – Tour life highs, lows & mental balance (35:04) – Industry lessons: business, ethics & awareness (1:29:49) – Final advice: stay humble, authentic & resilient Biography: Aubrey is known for his phenomenal dance skills and captivating stage presence, but now he’s taking the music world by storm. A rising star creating his own lane with a sound of music, singer, songwriter and professional dancer. Aubrey is a recording artist from Pasadena, California. At a young age, Aubrey was very much surrounded by music and entertainment by his Mother "Angie Fisher". A Grammy nominated singer who performed background vocals for Michael Jackson, Kelly Clarkson, Jennifer Lopez, Missy Elliott, Keisha Cole, Jamie Foxx, Michael Bublé and many more. Aubrey played basketball in college for one year to later quit to pursue his career as a professional dancer at the age of 19. Aubrey has made a remarkable fan base on social media and has accomplished many success in the dance industry and worked on jobs like Super Bowl, Samsung, Toyota Corolla commercial, Pacsun, Celsius, and many more. Aubrey has also worked with artists like Snoop Dogg, Kendrick Lamar, Dababy, Travis Scott, Jason Derulo and more. After a few years of working in the industry Aubrey has decided to build his career in music and says he wants to be the next “superstar”. Aubrey believes that he can make a huge impact in music starting off as an independent artist. Aubrey is an r&b, pop and hip-hop powerhouse vocalist and loves to create music for people to feel alive, happy, soulful and energetic. Aubrey is very versatile and loves to explore different styles of music, not only for himself but for the listeners as well. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_aubreyfisher/ | |||
| 105 -Lindsey Blaufarb: The Voice, The Masked Singer, AGT, Pentatonix & Avril Lavigne | 07 Dec 2025 | 01:09:45 | |
Interview Date: August 3rd, 2025 Episode Summary: Choreographer/director Lindsey Blaufarb (half of LNC Collective) maps the leap from touring dancer to Emmy-nominated creative. A military kid who moved often, she found community through arts, earned an Urban Jam scholarship, then moved to L.A. at 17 to attend Hollywood High and the EDGE program—surviving on bar-mitzvah gigs and big dreams. Lindsey unpacks early heartbreaks and lucky breaks: the Christina Milian switcheroo, saying no to Britney’s Circus tour to fully pivot, and landing Avril Lavigne’s record-breaking “Girlfriend” video after being invited into Avril’s band. She breaks down real creative direction—styling, staging, lighting, content, team-building—and shares lessons from The Voice, Blue’s Big City Adventure, and directing Pentatonix’s tours.For dancers, she gives today’s playbook: build a brand look, study an artist’s world, post smart on Instagram, DM thoughtfully, be a great hang, and let your originality—and energy—do the talking. Mindset, resilience, and resourcefulness thread through it all. Shownotes: (0:00) – Welcome, Guest Intro, Urban Jam throwback, (9:48) – Late start, moving often, arts community (12:32) – Urban Jam scholarship leads to L.A. (13:55) – Hollywood High + EDGE, solo at 17 (21:12) – Christina Milian switch; “everything happens” lesson (28:58) – Turned down Britney tour to pivot (32:31) – Avril invites band; choreographs “Girlfriend” (39:24) – Blue’s Big City Adventure: feature musical (41:51) – Directing Pentatonix tours; Christmas prep (49:40) – How to stand out now: brand, energy Biography: Lindsey Blaufarb is one half of L&C Collective and an Emmy-nominated and two-time World Choreography Award-winning choreographer and director. Her celebrated work spans film, commercials, music videos, television, and live performances, including The Masked Singer, The Voice, America’s Got Talent, and the musical feature film Blue’s Big City Adventure. In music, she has collaborated with top artists such as Karol G, Lykke Li, Pentatonix, Tori Kelly, Jacob Collier, Kelly Rowland, Pink, Blake Shelton, Weezer, Missy Elliot, Ty Dolla $ign, Usher, Miley Cyrus, Nicki Minaj, Justin Bieber, Ricky Martin, Avril Lavigne, and others, crafting iconic moments like Cee-Lo Green’s Grammy-nominated F** You* music video. Her commercial credits include major campaigns for Target, Apple, McDonald’s, Hyundai, Madden, and a variety of globally recognized brands. Renowned for her originality and trendsetting artistry, Lindsey continues to push boundaries and elevate entertainment across every medium. Connect on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/im_lindseyb?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw== Website: https://www.clcollective.net/ | |||