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The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia

Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni

Business

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Frequency: 1 episode/8d. Total Eps: 52

As former Stanford roommates and now business partners, Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni share their experience as startup founders and the complexities of being young professionals—from financial literacy, social impact, and navigating networking (ever been hit on through LinkedIn?). With exclusive access to top experts, they offer an inside look at their chaotic lives alongside career insights from their network of thought leaders. Watch The Burnouts pursue their dreams while trying to keep their lives from going up in flames. Will they burn out? We’ll find out.

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🇨🇦 Canada - careers
20/08/2026
#23
🇬🇧 Great Britain - careers
20/08/2026
#26
🇩🇪 Germany - careers
20/08/2026
#59
🇺🇸 USA - careers
20/08/2026
#60
🇨🇦 Canada - careers
19/08/2026
#18
🇬🇧 Great Britain - careers
19/08/2026
#14
🇩🇪 Germany - careers
19/08/2026
#30
🇺🇸 USA - careers
19/08/2026
#48
🇫🇷 France - careers
19/08/2026
#89
🇨🇦 Canada - careers
18/08/2026
#44

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https://www.instagram.com/theburnouts
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https://www.instagram.com/sophiakianni
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https://www.tiktok.com/@theburnouts
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Everything We Learned at Stanford in 29 Minutes (Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni)

Episode 1

Tuesday, April 1, 2025 • Duration 29:43

Bluetooth tampons, fake assistants, and maxing out on LinkedIn mail credits? That’s entrepreneurship for ya. Phoebe and Sophia are best friends who turned their Stanford dorm room conversations into a business partnership. They’re here to share the good, bad, and ugly parts of founding a company together.

Chapters

0:00 - welcome to The Burnouts

0:36 - how we became friends

2:37 - the Stanford cheating ring

8:16 - Sophia’s FAKE assistant

11:17 - a bluetooth tampon??

17:21 - the day phia was born

20:12 - the go-giver mindset and spam messaging

25:40 - why we started the podcast

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How Kris Jenner went from flight attendant to billionaire through manifestation

Episode 2

Wednesday, April 9, 2025 • Duration 30:04

What do you do when someone tells you no? If you’re Kris Jenner, you walk into the scheduling office with a tray of brownies and figure it out anyway. In this episode, Phoebe and Sophia sit down with the iconic woman who turned “figure it out” into her mom-ager lifestyle. They talk about early jobs, showing up before you feel ready, and what it really takes to launch something that matters. Also: why your car interior might be ruining your life.

Chapters
0:00 - Intro

1:12 - restaurants in the sky?

5:04 - business rizz 101

10:01 - doing things your way (and making them work)

16:45 - vintage, resale, and why clean cars matter

21:20 - advice for young women + why Kris invested in Phia

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Recessions make millionaires: Money moves you NEED to know (ft. Mrs. Dow Jones)

Episode 3

Tuesday, April 15, 2025 • Duration 27:56

Feeling lost in the chaos of the economy right now? Same. Between inflation, tariffs, and TikTok panic, it feels like we’re all one iced coffee away from a full-blown recession spiral.

In this episode of The Burnouts, Sophia Kianni and Phoebe Gates call in financial dominatrix Haley Sacks — aka @MrsDowJones — for a much-needed crash course in surviving your first economic downturn. We talk Roth IRAs, recession anxiety, index funds, investing FOMO, and why press-on nails might just be the ultimate economic indicator.

Whether you’re getting your first paycheck, trying to start investing, or just wondering WTF to do with your money, this episode is for you.

💸 It’s funny. It’s practical. And it might just change your financial future.

🔖 CHAPTERS

0:00 – Our first economic freakout

2:15 – Should we actually be scared?

5:20 – The only money moves that matter right now

9:45 – Haley’s worst investment ever

13:00 – Roth IRAs, index funds & investing without crying

17:20 – Budgeting when your paycheck hits

21:10 – Renting, home buying, and financial hot takes

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How Sara Blakely went from Fax Machine Sales to Billionaire Founder of Spanx

Episode 5

Friday, May 2, 2025 • Duration 41:07

In this episode of The Burnouts, Sophia Kianni and Phoebe Gates sit down with entrepreneurial icon and Spanx founder Sara Blakely to talk mindset, manifestation, and the messy truth of building something from scratch. Whether you're navigating your first job, launching a startup, or still waiting for a sign from the universe—this one’s for you.

We go deep on everything from building confidence as a woman in business, to manifesting million-dollar ideas (literally), to knowing when to quit, pivot, or fire the “genius” that’s ruining your team dynamic. Sara shares stories she’s never told before—like the exact mindset hack that led to Spanx, the real reason she sold her company, and the crazy specific sign she asked the universe for.

🔖 CHAPTERS

0:00 – Why we called Sara before we even had a product

2:10 – Sara’s Secret Weapon Since She Was 16

14:00 – Signs from the universe (including one from Oprah)

18:30 – Hiring Wrong, Firing Fast, and Learning the Hard Way

29:00 – Why High Heels Haven’t Changed in 300 Years (Until Now)

36:45 – Sara is paying people to buy her shoes?!?

38:00 – Sara’s Wildest Hustle Stories

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The 3 rules Chelsea Handler thinks you should break to make millions

Episode 6

Thursday, May 8, 2025 • Duration 36:34

What do you do when the world tells you to tone it down? If you’re Chelsea Handler, you turn up the volume—on confidence, career, and comedy. In this unapologetic and hilarious episode of The Burnouts, Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni sit down with the legendary comedian and bestselling author who’s built an empire on not giving a f***. They talk through confidence myths, investor pitch chaos, stand-up breakthroughs, and why Chelsea bought her ex 35 trees. Also: why burnout might actually be your breakthrough.

Chapters

0:00 - Intro

1:22 - were you always this confident?

6:14 - how to say no (and mean it)

11:02 - kids, career, and confidence clashes

15:00 - real estate, financial freedom & female power

21:06 - mushrooms with your landscaper & other business lessons

25:45 - dating while dominating

30:12 - women, work, and not shrinking yourself

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She Built Bumble to $13B...Then Walked Away. Here's Why.

Episode 7

Thursday, May 15, 2025 • Duration 36:31

What if the next billion-dollar startup isn’t built by 1,000 employees—but by 30, powered by AI? In this episode of The Burnouts, Bumble founder and CEO Whitney Wolfe Herd sits down with Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni to talk about building lean, trusting your gut, burning out, and why she believes AI will totally reshape how companies scale.

Whitney opens up about hiring mistakes that nearly broke Bumble, the myth of hustle culture, why listening to “grown-ups in suits” set her back, and how legacy tech is holding companies hostage. She shares her evolved vision for Bumble, her personal burnout recovery, and why she now swears by smaller teams, smarter tech, and protecting your energy like it’s cash.

Also: surprise-and-delight growth hacks, ego death, and what she really thinks about ROI-driven marketing.

Chapters
0:00 - Intro

1:02 - She built Bumble. But at what cost?

5:11 - Why hiring “adults in suits” backfired

8:42 - Scaling smart: fewer people, better results

13:08 - AI, apps, and the future of building

16:30 - Burnout, ego death, and coming back stronger

22:14 - Bumble’s early growth hacks (inflatable bees, anyone?)

27:49 - Friendship-first is the next dating revolution

30:45 - Mentorship, motherhood & knowing when to say no

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She made $2M in 2 days by building a celebrity cult favorite brand (ft. Danielle Guizio)

Episode 8

Thursday, May 22, 2025 • Duration 30:46

What if your first investment was a $400 tax refund and a tape measure? In this episode of The Burnouts, fashion founder Danielle Guizio sits down with Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni to talk about turning side hustles into global brands, learning leadership the hard way, and why your iPhone might be your most powerful marketing tool.

Danielle opens up about recovering from surgery, walking garbage bags of orders to USPS, and getting duped on TikTok. She shares the strategy behind her $2M Black Friday breakthrough, why she still fits every sample herself, and how she built a viral fashion empire with no design experience, no car, and no connections—just a deep belief that she could figure it out.

Also: negotiating in Chinatown at 13, selling out with zero ads, and what she really looks for in a résumé (hint: it’s not your school).

Chapters
0:00 - Intro

1:10 - $400, no car, and a dream

5:45 - Getting duped and going viral anyway

10:12 - Negotiation school and hiring red flags

13:48 - Why she still works the retail floor

16:00 - Instagram as your magazine

21:35 - How she got Kylie Jenner and Dua Lipa in her clothes

24:18 - What she actually looks for in a hire

28:55 - Advice for every girl with a side hustle

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How influencer Chriselle Lim started Phlur ($150+ million fragrance empire)

Episode 9

Thursday, May 29, 2025 • Duration 37:41

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What if heartbreak was the beginning of your empire?

In this episode of The Burnouts, entrepreneur and creative director Chriselle Lim sits down with Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni to unpack how she went from TikTok’s “rich mom” to co-owning Phlur, a $100M+ fragrance brand.

From the ashes of burnout and divorce, Chriselle rebuilt her life—and helped reshape how fragrance is built, branded, and sold. She shares the story behind Missing Person (the perfume with a 250K waitlist that changed everything) and how reinvention became her real superpower.

Also: the bamboo tree metaphor that will stick with you forever.

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Why Women Are Secretly Better at Money According to an Ex-Wall Street Trader

Episode 10

Thursday, June 5, 2025 • Duration 35:52

What if your side hustle made you a millionaire—and taught millions of women how to become one too?

In this episode of The Burnouts, Vivian Tu (@Your.RichBFF) joins Phoebe and Sophia to unpack the story behind her Wall Street-to-TikTok glow-up, the money myths that hold women back, and how she’s rewriting financial literacy for a new generation.

Vivian opens up about surviving workplace racism, being your office’s unofficial 401(k) whisperer, and building a media empire that started with one viral video—and became a New York Times bestselling book, a chart-topping podcast, and a full-time career.

She also shares the real talk behind her relationship: who paid more rent, how German cockroaches accidentally fast-tracked her move-in, and why every couple should go on “dessert walks.”

Also: the genius trick to automating your savings without even thinking about it.

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🔍 CHAPTERS
0:00 - Intro

1:02 - Why dating gets harder when women get more successful

4:55 - How to actually budget (no spreadsheets, no shame)

8:00 - What to do with your first paycheck

13:50 - Getting pushed out of Wall Street—and finding a new path

18:20 - When to quit your job for your side hustle

30:55 - Talking about money in relationships (without making it weird)

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