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Jimmy Lovatt grew up in Australia with a deep curiosity for horses and turned that passion into a global pursuit. After traveling the world to immerse himself in the Thoroughbred breeding industry, he earned a coveted role as stallion manager at Godolphin—one of the most prestigious breeding farms on the planet. From flying alongside prized stallions to celebrating victories in the Kentucky Derby, Oaks, and Dubai World Cup, Jimmy’s seen the highs of elite racing up close. But what fuels him most isn’t the trophies—it’s mentoring the next generation of horsemen and watching young grooms take pride in their work. Because at the heart of it all is a bond that can’t be explained—only experienced.

In this episode of Boundless, we meet Bee Buck—a powerhouse behind the lens and a passionate storyteller of the racetrack. A freelance photographer who’s captured six Kentucky Derbies and two Breeders’ Cups by age 38, Bee brings a gritty, detailed eye to some of the sport’s most iconic moments. Beyond the camera, she also works in a pediatric unit, proving that dual careers are not only possible, but powerful. Bee shows us what horse racing feels like through her lens—and reminds aspiring photographers that there’s always “room on the rail.”

On this episode of The Boundless Podcast, Dr. Ferrin Peterson sits down with Dana Zook — retired jockey and current foreman for top trainer Mike Maker. Dana shares how he got his first ride for just a dollar with trainer Dr. Gregory, what it was like to beat some of the greatest jockeys of all time, and how his career evolved into managing racehorses at the highest level. An inspiring ride through grit, growth, and the relentless love of the game. 🐎✨ #TheBoundlessPodcast #FerrinPeterson #DanaZook #JockeyLife #HorseRacing #MikeMaker #FromSaddleToStable #BehindTheScenes #Equestrian #Horses #Jockey

🎙️ In this captivating episode of Boundless, Hall of Fame jockey Chris McCarron sits down with Dr. Ferrin Peterson to share the extraordinary journey behind one of horse racing’s most legendary careers. 🏆🐎

From being inspired by his older brother Gregg McCarron to becoming one of the all-time greats himself, Chris opens up about the moments that shaped him. He reflects on the strength it took to race and win in honor of his mother just days after her passing—a deeply emotional victory that exemplified his resilience.

Chris also dives into his historic Breeders’ Cup triumphs aboard Tiznow in 2000 and 2001, including the challenges of riding such a headstrong horse and the pride of winning during a time when America needed hope after 9/11.

But the conversation doesn’t stop there—Chris shares his thoughts on how the racing style has evolved over the years. He discusses how the straight-legged, high-seated style some jockeys use today creates unnecessary drag and wind resistance, offering insight into the nuances of technique and efficiency that separate the good from the great.

This episode is filled with heartfelt stories, expert advice, and behind-the-scenes perspectives that go far beyond the racetrack. Whether you’re a lifelong fan of racing or simply love hearing from those who have achieved greatness, this is one conversation you won’t want to miss.

Timestamps

00:09 Intro

00:43 Gregg McCarron - Brother and Mentor

03:20 Was it important to have the foundation as a hotwalker?

04:20 First Race

05:25 Beating Sandy Hawley’s record for most wins in a year

06:09 Were you self taught or did you have a mentor?

07:45 Were you a well rounded athlete? Family of athletes

08:40 Born with balance

10:10 Being in the horses center of gravity

11:05 The importance of getting along with a horse

12:07 Riding the Mid-Atlantic Circuit - Establishing trust with 5-10 minute warmup

17:28 Tiznow has a mind of his own!

23:25 “Don’t be surprised if you don’t see me hitting him coming down through the stretch.”

26:17 The Comeback King - Fitness and Balance

27:26 Winning the Travers Stakes in Honor of His Mother

35:20 Developing your mindset to thrive under pressure?

38:06 Aerodynamic Colors - Rhonda Allen 1987

40:20 The riding styles of Irad Ortiz Jr. & Tyler Gaffalione - “Straight legs down the stretch”

43:53 One of the few jockeys who tactically adapted their riding style

45:40 Southern California Jockey Colony - 12 Hall of Famers

47:21 1980-81 Winning Streaks

49:20 Competitive up until the last race

50:35 Retirement - Injuries

53:55 Came Home - Final Race

55:18 Doing the math on horses mounted: over 50,000 legs over a horses back

55:53 Advice to younger self

59:14 Riding a horse well past the finish line

1:00:25 What advice would you give to a young rider starting their career?

1:03:33 Next Episode: Dana Zook

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After facing the unimaginable loss of both her sons—Will in a tragic car accident in Hawaii and her eldest to addiction—Susan Naylor turned her grief into a powerful force for good. Inspired by Will’s incredible heart for people, she founded the Will Smith Foundation, which has since supported 68 organizations dedicated to improving the lives of children in Texas, Hawaii, and Africa.

Beyond her philanthropic work, Susan is also a passionate racehorse owner and breeder, with multiple stakes winners competing at the highest levels, including the Breeders’ Cup. In this deeply moving episode of Boundless, Susan shares how she transformed loss into legacy, the impact of the Foundation, and her love for the sport of kings.

Join us for an inspiring conversation about resilience, purpose, and the boundless ways we can turn tragedy into triumph. 🎧✨

Timestamps:

00:38 How do people perceive you?

02:02 “Everyone is jealous of what you’ve got, not how you got it.”

03:17 Introduction to riding

04:08 The Will Smith Foundation - Will and Charlies Deaths

05:44 A turn of events and what they lead to

08:39 Your biggest influence

10:20 Generosity and fundraising - Athleticism

11:10 At one of your lowest years you started giving back more

12:35 Carrying on Legacy

13:04 Surgery Clinic - Leeu Naylor Medical Building

15:19 Leeu Origin

16:18 Will notices the needs of African kids - The foundations work

18:00 Why did you choose to put your dogs name on the surgery center?

20:00 Making the chose to put a pet down and Ferrins experience as a Veterinarian

22:37 Heart for horses

24:33 Developing horsemanship

25:18 Debbie Ward

25:45 Ferrin traveling abroad in Veterinarian school to learn from the best and making it work financially

28:59 “Andthewinneris” When a young horses lightbulb turns on

31:37 Manny Wah

33:24 Treating horses well and giving them breaks when they need it

34:06 Where does the name Safari North come from?

34:45 if you could go back and talk to your younger self what advice would you give?

37:18 Next Episode

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With 8,803 wins, nine Triple Crown victories, and a reputation as one of the greatest jockeys in history, Pat Day’s career is nothing short of legendary.

But to him, those accolades aren’t his greatest achievement. In this episode of The Boundless Podcast, Dr. Ferrin Peterson sits down with the Hall of Famer to uncover the mindset, faith, and resilience that shaped his journey. From the lessons horse racing taught him to the impact of mentorship and the choices that defined his path, Pat shares wisdom gained from a lifetime in the saddle.

Tune in for an inspiring conversation with one of racing’s most patient and purposeful riders. 🎙🐎

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Timestamps

00:00 intro

01:00 What first sparked your interest in horse racing?

01:50 Riverside thoroughbred farm - Gene Cummings

05:05 First Win on Forblunged

07:16 What set you apart from other riders?

09:18 How did you learn to manage the highs and lows?

10:58 Leading rider in North America - Last possible races

12:40 Party Lifestyle

14:40 Coming to Christ - Jimmy Swagert

20:20 Telling Sheila he’s a Christian

25:13 Sheila Day - Marriage, Support on the track

28:40 How did you keep your standard high?

30:55 22% Win record means 78% loss record - bouncing back

31:43 Emotional and Mental Challenges - Dangerous sport

33:41 Racing several consecutive seconds in the Kentucky Derby before winning

34:16 49er 1988 Derby

37:30 Easy Goer 1989 Derby

40:05 Before Christ I was an arrogant winner and a terrible loser

41:43 Summer Squall

42:45 Offered Unbridled and lost

46:47 The Wall and the sound barrier throwing his horse off

49:30 3 most meaningful races in his career

58:10 Kentucky Derby with LIL E TEE

59:13 Mentoring other jockeys - leading by example

01:02:45 Turning down a stake mount for a young jockey with an opportunity

01:05:00 What advice would you give to someone just starting their career?

01:06:45 Ferrin is the hardest working jockey Pat Knows

01:08:25 Next Episode: Susan Naylor

At 70 years old, Perry Ouzts isn’t just defying the odds—he’s rewriting them. With an incredible 53,419 races and 7,487 wins under his belt, Perry has been a force in the saddle since 1973. Known as the “Blue Collar Jockey,” he’s built his legacy on consistency, determination, and an unshakable love for the sport.

In this episode of Boundless, Dr. Ferrin Peterson sits down with Perry to talk about his 50+ year career, what keeps him riding after all these years, and the mindset that has made him one of the most enduring jockeys in history. From the toughest challenges to the greatest victories, Perry’s story is one of resilience, passion, and the relentless pursuit of doing what he loves.

🎧 Tune in for an inspiring conversation with a true racing legend!

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Timestamps:

00:33 Current Stats

00:49 What drew you to horse racing

01:30 The “Fires Clan” - Earlie Fires

02:40 First win

03:47 The year 1973

04:25 Did you ever consider another career?

05:50 Longevity as a jockey

06:18 Advice for younger Perry - Finances

07:58 Whats the longest time you’ve had to take off the track?

09:25 How do you maintain your mental state during time off?

09:40 Did anyone mentor you or inspire you in your career?

10:42 You don’t claim foul, why is that?

12:10 You breeze horses in the early morning and dead of winter still, why?

13:16 Breezing for his wife - Toni Ouzts

15:16 Tell me about your long, loyal relationship with Larry Smith

17:16 Doing your job exceptionally well because you love to win

18:00 Pat Day and losing the feeling of victory

18:40 Do you have a goal for this final year of racing?

19:20 You rode with many of the greats, what set them apart?

20:45 The Blue Collar Jockey - I’d ride anything

21:53 Tell me about your loyal relationship with agent James Fowler

24:30 Do you have a pre-race routine?

28:10 If you’re intimidated or scared the horse knows

28:25 What parts of your life outside the track keep you balanced?

28:55 You’ve worked hard in your career, did you enjoy the journey along the way?

30:42 Facing Fear Pole Vaulting - Ferrin

31:06 What advice would you give someone starting their career?

32:42 “Ain’t gonna lose no sleep over it” He doesn’t care what people think of him

34:45 Being leading rider puts a target on your back

36:39 Where does the nickname “Iron Man” come from?

38:39 Motorcycle crash in the AM, 9 races in the PM

40:59 3 sick days in 50 years

44:41 Winning a stakes race at 70 and the struggle of getting mounts as a 70 year old

46:23 Horses keep you humble, you’re only as good as the horse you ride

49:13 Getting the bug back at 70

50:00 Making weight and having the same diet all 50 years

52:00 Riding every horse to win regardless of the talent

52:39 A moment form our next episode with Pat Day

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From breaking barriers as the first female jockey to ride in the Preakness to becoming a respected figure in horse racing, Patricia Cooksey’s journey is nothing short of extraordinary. 🏇✨ In this episode, professional jockey Ferrin Peterson sits down with Cooksey to discuss her biggest challenges, Kentucky Derby experience, and the mindset that set her apart on the track. Now in a leadership role at the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission , she shares wisdom for the next generation and reflects on the greatest gifts racing has given her.

Tune in for an inspiring conversation about resilience, passion, and the boundless possibilities in the sport we love! 🎧

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:36 What drew you to horse racing?

01:45 Early Career Challenges

03:10 Riding under a more masculine name

05:37 Still not many female riders today

06:51 Taken off horses because of gender

07:30 Strength vs Finesses

08:19 Wellness and Fitness

11:39 Jockey colony in her prime

12:10 Female jockey quarters

14:26 Pat Day

15:36 Riding style

16:25 Becoming one with a horse

16:59 Learning different horses

18:00 She’d ride anything

18:44 Horses you dont get along with

19:45 Career sacrifices

20:41 Pre-race routine

22:07 Protected during fall

23:35 Venezia Award

25:10 Taking care of the grooms and trainers

26:34 Hollywood Prevue Chris McCaron

22:59 2nd female in Kentucky Debry

28:19 Don Brumfield - The Wall

30:40 Advice for people starting their career

31:38 Kentucky horse racing commission

33:47 Whip rules, helmets and vests

36:07 what has horse racing taught you about yourself

37:15 Horse provide opportunity

38:03 Joy in life

39:08 Horse racing industry in Kentucky

Hall of Fame jockey Steve Cauthen sits down with jockey and veterinarian Ferrin Peterson for an unforgettable interview about his legendary career in horse racing. From winning the U.S. Triple Crown at just 18 years old to making history as the only jockey to win both the Kentucky Derby and Epsom Derby, Steve shares the highs and challenges of his journey.

Discover how Steve clinched the English Fillies Triple Crown, earned the title of Sports Illustrated's 'Sportsman of the Year' over icons Muhammad Ali and Reggie Jackson, and became one of the most celebrated athletes in horse racing history.

This is a must-watch episode for horse racing fans and sports enthusiasts alike! Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more inspiring interviews.

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Timestamps:

0:00:00:00 Intro

0:00:53:18 Introduction to horse racing - Tex Cauthen

0:06:55:00 Inspiration - Braulio Baeza

0:09:11:22 Jockey License - Keene Daingerfield

0:10:44:16 Early Career - First Races

0:14:19:19 Losing the bug allowance - Triple Crown Mount

0:14:47:00 First Serious Injury - 487 wins in 1 year

0:15:50:00 Affirmed origin

0:19:35:12 Triple Crown mount Affirmed

0:20:30:00 Affirmed Kentucky Derby Win

0:21:37:08 Louis and Patrice Wolfson - Affirmed owners

0:22:17:06 Affirmed & Alydar Preakness

0:23:31:01 Affirmed Belmont

0:25:20:17 English Fillies Triple Crown - Oh So Sharp

0:28:30:00 Riding Approach - "Just another race"

0:29:28:20 Not your typical teenage success story

0:30:34:15 The harder you work the luckier you get

0:32:24:12 "The Kid" - Agent: Lenny Goodman

0:34:14:23 Beating Muhhamad Ali and Reggie Jackson for Sports Illustrated Sportsman of The Year

0:37:28:07 Hot in the press: 110 Race losing streak

0:42:42:04 Riding in Europe: Robert Sangster

0:44:53:11 Riding Style: Connection to hands and thinking like a horse

0:47:08:12 Horse Connection

0:50:03:17 Flow State with a horse

0:52:01:01 Affirmed personality: Horses know when they win

0:52:53:23 US Riding Style in Europe

0:54:53:23 Life after retirement

0:56:59:14 Advice to younger self

0:58:56:15 Advice for someone starting their career

1:00:58:07 Next Episode: Patti Cooksey

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