Welcome to The Block Reward Podcast, where real stories meet real impact, all powered by real money—Bitcoin. Each week, we dive into the transformative world of Bitcoin through in-depth interviews with thought leaders, innovators, and changemakers shaping the future of decentralized finance.
Your host, Scott Dedels, also shares solo episodes where he reflects on his journey as a conscious CEO, offering insights into leadership, personal growth, and the evolving role of Bitcoin in creating a more intentional and purpose-driven economy.
Whether you're a seasoned Bitcoiner or just starting to explore its potential, The Block Reward Podcast delivers thought-provoking conversations and actionable takeaways to inspire your own financial freedom and conscious living.
Join us as we uncover the stories and strategies that fuel the Bitcoin revolution—one block at a time.
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96: George Bordianu ON: Why Most Canadians Don’t Actually Own Their Bitcoin
Episode 96
Tuesday, August 5, 2025 • Duration 44:48
How safe is your Bitcoin, really?
In this episode, I sit down with George Bordianu, co-founder and CEO of Balance, Canada’s oldest and largest digital asset custodian. Balance has been operating since 2017, holds roughly $3 billion in client assets (depending on market prices), and is regulated under a trust charter from Alberta Treasury Board and Finance.
We talk about why self-custody isn’t always practical, how most retail investors end up with “paper Bitcoin” instead of actual Bitcoin, and how Balance creates wallets with full legal title for clients while keeping assets secured offline in military-grade hardware inside bank-grade vaults. George also explains what it takes to protect assets against hackers and physical threats, and why he believes building and keeping crypto infrastructure in Canada is critical for the country’s financial future.
You’ll Learn:
The real reason most Canadians end up with “paper Bitcoin” instead of actual Bitcoin
The surprising link between vault security and digital asset protection
How Balance creates wallets with full legal title for individual investors
The quiet damage of Canada losing crypto companies and assets to the US
What happens when Bitcoin is used as collateral for loans and mortgages
How Balance protects assets against both hackers and physical threats
The slow but essential shift toward regulated crypto custody in Canada
Why quantum computing is already on the radar for custodians like Balance
Timestamps:
[00:00] Introduction
[05:00] Why custodians matter alongside self-custody for Bitcoin
[09:00] How Balance secures assets against hackers and physical threats
[13:00] The difference between legal title and “paper Bitcoin”
[17:00] Why custody is the biggest roadblock for Bitcoin payroll adoption
[19:00] How Canadian law protects client assets in a custodian insolvency
[21:00] Using Bitcoin as collateral for mortgages and loans
[24:00] Why quantum computing is a real future risk for custody systems
[28:00] The regulatory challenges pushing Canadian crypto assets to the US
[34:00] How Alberta enabled Balance to become a regulated custodian
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95: Helena Andrejko ON: The Psychology of Fiat, Bitcoin, and Human Consciousness
Episode 95
Tuesday, July 29, 2025 • Duration 48:09
What if money doesn’t just buy things but actually changes how we think?
In this episode, I talk with Helena Andrejko, an Australian psychotherapist who works with individuals and couples, as well as a psychedelic-assisted therapist trained to use psilocybin and MDMA for trauma and depression treatment in regulated medical settings. She splits her time between her therapy practice and her work in the Bitcoin space.
We discuss how money can shape human consciousness, the overlap Helena sees between therapy and decentralization, and how trust functions differently in fiat and Bitcoin systems. Helena also shares why she believes Bitcoin challenges old power dynamics and what that could mean for how people relate to truth, pain, and authenticity.
You’ll Learn:
The surprising link between money and human consciousness
What it feels like to balance psychotherapy with being a Bitcoiner
The real reason trust can’t be mandated in money systems
Why fiat money mirrors a parent-child dynamic
What happens when centralized authorities decide what truth is
The quiet damage of relying on monetary “heroes” for protection
How Bitcoin shifts trust from institutions to math and code
The role pain plays in growth and authenticity within decentralized systems
What history shows us about dissent, truth, and the cost of challenging power
Timestamps:
[00:00] Introduction
[06:40] How Helena connects therapy and Bitcoin through decentralization
[08:55] The link between the invention of coinage and abstract thought
86: Leon Wankum ON: Real Estate vs Bitcoin: The Investment Showdown
Episode 86
Tuesday, May 27, 2025 • Duration 40:57
Bitcoin is replacing real estate—and it’s happening faster than you think.
In this episode, Leon Wankum, financial economist and real estate developer breaks down why Bitcoin is rapidly outcompeting real estate as a store of value, investment vehicle, and source of cashflow. With over 15 years in real estate and a background in financial economics, Leon brings unmatched insight into how the rules of wealth-building are being rewritten. From leveraging Bitcoin as pristine collateral to MicroStrategy’s game-changing financial products, this conversation challenges the long-held dominance of physical assets—and makes a compelling case that Bitcoin isn’t just an alternative investment, it’s becoming the benchmark. Whether you're a seasoned investor, real estate pro, or Bitcoin skeptic, this episode will shift how you think about capital, yield, and the future of money.
You’ll Learn:
How MicroStrategy’s financial products are engineered to outperform real estate cashflow without leverage
Why Bitcoin’s purchasing power growth outpaces even leveraged real estate over time
What makes Bitcoin a superior form of collateral compared to property assets
How institutional capital is shifting from bonds and real estate toward Bitcoin-backed instruments
Why rising interest rates are exposing vulnerabilities in traditional real estate investing
How Bitcoin flips the time value of money and redefines financial risk
What the decline of commercial real estate reveals about the larger economic paradigm shift
Why measuring wealth in Bitcoin changes investment logic and portfolio strategy
How real estate developers can practically integrate Bitcoin into financing and reserve strategies
Timestamps:
[00:00] Introduction
85: Roger and Seb ON: Inside the World of Bitcoin Authors
Episode 85
Tuesday, May 20, 2025 • Duration 56:14
You won’t change the system by shouting at it—try writing a book instead.
What happens when two Bitcoiners become authors—and decide to peel back the curtain on the writing, publishing, and marketing grind behind their books? In this refreshingly honest and unexpectedly hilarious episode, Roger Wang (Senior Marketing Director at Block Rewards and author of Would Mao Hold Bitcoin?) and Seb Bunney (author of The Hidden Cost of Money) go deep on what it really takes to write a Bitcoin book that resonates.
From self-doubt to publishing politics, research rabbit holes to accidental financial wins from Bitcoin appreciation, this is a no-BS conversation about the pain, strategy, and joy of building something that lasts. Whether you’re a curious reader, aspiring writer, or freedom-maxi who wants to orange-pill through storytelling—this episode will shift how you think about content, craft, and conviction.
You’ll Learn:
How self-publishing unlocks creative control and competitive reach in the Bitcoin space
Why using a non-Bitcoiner editor can strengthen your arguments and expose blind spots
How pricing in Bitcoin turns small book sales into high-leverage assets over time
What note-taking over 10 years reveals about building a citation powerhouse
How separating writing and editing accelerates creative output and clarity
Why emotionally charged writing often leads to sharper, more resonant work
What poor cover design signals about credibility—and how to avoid it
How evergreen content challenges traditional marketing tactics
Why structure-first writing reduces wasted effort and kills fewer “darlings”
What print-on-demand technology reveals about the democratization of publishing
84: Peruvian Bull ON: Bitcoin Solves the Triffin Dilemma, Dollar Milkshake, and Cantillon Effects
Episode 84
Tuesday, May 13, 2025 • Duration 51:12
Peruvian Bull is a macro analyst, author of Dollar End Game, and creator focused on the long-term consequences of fiat monetary policy and Bitcoin's role in the global economy.
In this episode, you're going to learn how the U.S. dollar became the dominant global reserve currency and why that system is now under strain, what the Triffin dilemma is and how it forces the U.S. to make impossible economic trade-offs, why central banks are trapped in a cycle of endless debt and money printing, what caused the post-2020 inflation spike and why it's different from 2008, and how Bitcoin fits into this system as a neutral, non-sovereign monetary asset with potential game-theoretic consequences at a global level.
Timestamps:
[00:00] Introduction
[00:38] Why exponential debt systems always break
[03:01] The origins of the global dollar system
[04:18] The Triffin dilemma explained
[05:47] France calls the U.S. bluff on gold
[07:30] Why reserve currencies must become net importers
[09:12] Why capital flows toward higher-yield currencies
[10:36] The policy trilemma explained
[12:08] Global synchronized monetary policy
[14:27] Brent Johnson’s dollar milkshake theory
[15:36] How foreign selling triggers U.S. stock crashes
[17:32] Why the Fed always steps in to rescue markets
[18:52] Why inflation isn’t a one-time problem
[20:22] How the Fed evolved into a power center
83: Seb Bunney ON: How Bitcoin Can Heal the Damage Fiat Created
Episode 83
Tuesday, May 6, 2025 • Duration 52:36
Scott and Seb Bunny are long-time friends and thinkers in the Bitcoin space who focus on the philosophical, societal, and spiritual implications of sound money.
In this episode, you're going to learn how fiat money distorts our perception of time and value, why Bitcoin could be the antidote to rising anxiety and survival-driven living, how inflation and state-controlled money affect everything from relationships to food quality, what the future might look like with AI, simulation theory, and Bitcoin intersecting, and why smaller, tighter communities might be the key to a more meaningful life.
Timestamps:
[00:00] Introduction
[01:40] The spiritual side of Bitcoin
[02:18] How Bitcoin relates to time
[03:01] Money as a measurement of time
[04:03] Energy, time, and the Bitcoin standard
[05:56] How government intervention distorts value
[06:39] The tyranny of the clock explained
[08:02] TikTok and shortened attention spans
[09:04] State-controlled money as a modern parasite
[18:34] Why beauty in architecture is disappearing
82: How Scott Left Traditional Finance to Build A Future with Bitcoin
Episode 82
Tuesday, April 29, 2025 • Duration 48:10
In this episode, Scott sits in the guest seat. You’re going to learn how he went from mocking Bitcoin to building a company around it, what employers need to know if they want to offer Bitcoin to their staff, why money is designed to lose value over time—and how that affects every employee’s future, what a Bitcoin savings plan looks like today and how it helps staff build real long-term wealth, and why Bitcoin could be the most important tool for both retaining talent and fighting inflation in the modern workplace.
Timestamps:
[00:00] Introduction
[01:12] Why employers should offer Bitcoin to staff
[03:48] COVID lockdowns and realizing the inflation problem
[05:17] Discovering Austrian economics and Bitcoin as a solution
[06:47] Why traditional financial products lose value over time
[08:05] The vision for Bitcoin in employer-employee relationships
[10:04] What Block Rewards is building right now
[11:29] Addressing safety, legality, and accessibility concerns
[12:42] Custodial wallets and cold storage options
[14:35] How inflation is built into the fiat system
[16:28] Measuring assets in Bitcoin instead of dollars
[17:40] Why saving in Bitcoin beats stock market investing
[18:49] Bitcoin’s long-term potential for retirement planning
[20:38] Stretching compensation budgets with Bitcoin
[22:33] How the Bitcoin Savings Plan works
[24:24] Payroll integration and matching contributions
81: Paul Rogers ON: The Spiritual Mechanics of Bitcoin
Episode 81
Tuesday, April 22, 2025 • Duration 45:53
Paul Rogers is a financial planner turned author who wrote Money, Love, and Bitcoin, a book exploring the spiritual and societal implications of sound money.
In this episode, you’re going to learn how inflation silently robs regular people of their ability to save, why Paul believes most people don’t actually want to invest—they just want to be secure, how Bitcoin could shift humanity’s focus from extraction to contribution, what universal laws like love and energetic balance have to do with money, and how a sound money system might change not only economies but the way we live and relate to each other.
Timestamps:
[00:00] Introduction
[00:48] Fix the money fix the world
[02:11] Building systems after money is fixed
[04:01] Bitcoin and synchronizing consciousness
[06:01] Why saving is hard in an inflationary system
[07:10] The mindset of the average investor
[08:15] Freedom from versus freedom to
[09:06] Bitcoin as a foundation for deeper life questions
[10:00] The premise of money, love, and Bitcoin
[11:30] Understanding money as a technology
[12:14] The problem of extraction vs contribution
[13:22] Jeff Booth and falling prices
[14:04] More people doing meaningful work
[14:45] How commercialism shapes our worldview
[15:33] Not everything in life is transactional
[16:10] High time preference and broken systems
80: Efrat Fenigson ON: The Truth About The Central Bank Digital Currency
Episode 80
Tuesday, April 15, 2025 • Duration 52:45
Efrat Fenigson is a journalist and podcaster with a background in tech and marketing.
In this episode, you're going to learn why Efrat left a successful corporate career to focus on journalism and podcasting, her concerns about government control and how it led her to Bitcoin, what Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) are and how they could impact privacy and freedom, how various countries like China, Thailand, and the EU are experimenting with CBDCs, and why Efrat believes Bitcoin offers a better solution for financial sovereignty.
Timestamps:
[00:00] Introduction
[07:00] Discovering Bitcoin and its potential
[08:00] COVID-19 experience and loss of trust in government
[09:30] Introduction to Bitcoin through Crypto Jungle
[10:30] Efrat’s Bitcoin journey and learning process
[12:00] Leaving old social circles and building new ones
[14:00] The shift from valuing money and titles to valuing freedom and truth
[17:30] Wholesale and retail CBDCs
[18:30] Possible restrictions on CBDCs, including geofencing and expiry dates
[19:30] Global alignment of CBDC rollout with Agenda 2030
[21:00] The state of CBDC development in Israel
[22:00] ECB’s plan to launch the digital euro in 2025
[24:00] How China’s CBDC rollout evolved
[26:00] Similar strategies being considered in Europe
[28:00] European Bank’s plans to redirect private savings
79: Lawrence Lepard ON: Bitcoin vs. The Endless Money Printing Machine
Episode 79
Tuesday, April 8, 2025 • Duration 56:35
Lawrence Lepard is a bestselling author and a prominent voice in the Bitcoin space.
In this episode, you're going to learn why Lawrence believes the current monetary system is broken, how inflation and debt are silently eroding the wealth of everyday people, why he thinks Bitcoin offers a better solution, how central banks’ policies are fueling inequality, and what Lawrence sees as the most likely scenarios for the future of money.
Timestamps:
[00:00] Introduction
[00:20] Sound money, hard assets, and monetary debasement
[05:15] History of money and gold
[08:00] Inflation from World War I
[10:15] Wealth inequality in America
[14:10] Decline of sound money since 1971
[16:40] The Cantillon effect
[17:55] 2008 financial crisis and QE policies
[19:30] Debt growth vs. GDP growth
[21:15] 2008 vs. COVID money printing
[22:00] Consequences of the current system
[23:15] Government spending and deficits
[25:20] Sound money as a moral issue
[26:15] Inflation as silent theft
[30:00] Explanation of the fourth turning
[32:30] Role of decentralization and technology
[34:05] Prediction of a Bitcoin standard
[36:00] Criticism of Keynesian economics
[39:00] Importance of decentralized money
[15:10] Why fiat money mirrors a parent-child trust dynamic
[23:40] The hero, villain, and victim roles in money systems
[29:00] How CBDCs and centralized decisions place people in the victim role
[30:20] Why Bitcoin liberates authenticity by breaking old power structures
[37:00] What history teaches about dissent and the cost of truth
[39:10] How Bitcoin changes our relationship with pain and self-reliance
[44:30] Why Bitcoin’s rules create boundaries without central authorities
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Resources Mentioned:
The Dao of Bitcoin by Scott Dedels | Book or Audiobook
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