The Biblical Mind is dedicated to helping its audience understand how the biblical authors thought, promoting Bible fluency through curious, careful reading of Scripture. It is hosted by Dr. Dru Johnson and published by the Center for Hebraic Thought, a hub for research and resources on the intellectual world of the Bible.
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Global Bible Translations Now at Our FingerTIPs (Jost Zetzsche) Ep. #272
Episode 276
Thursday, October 1, 2026 • Duration 55:36
What can Bible translations from around the world teach us about Scripture that we might miss in English? In this episode of The Biblical Mind, Dru Johnson talks with Bible translation scholar Dr. Jost Zetzsche about the power of language, translation, and the global Christian community.
Zetzsche introduces Translation Insights and Perspectives (TIPs), a free online resource that allows pastors, students, and Bible readers to explore how biblical passages have been translated into hundreds of languages. Rather than treating translation as a necessary compromise, the conversation explores how different languages can reveal unique perspectives on biblical words, concepts, grammar, and meaning.
The discussion examines why the Bible is “made to be translated,” how cultural context shapes language, and what sign-language translations can reveal about Jesus and biblical characters. They also explore fascinating examples involving forgiveness, pronouns, John the Baptist, and the meaning of logos in John 1:1.
The episode also considers how global Bible translations challenge the assumption that there is always one simple interpretation of a biblical passage, while still affirming that interpretation is grounded in the biblical text. Ultimately, this conversation offers a fresh perspective on Bible translation, biblical interpretation, language, theology, and the global church.
Michael Heiser, the Divine Council, and the Unseen Realm (Mike Chu) Ep. #271
Episode 275
Thursday, September 24, 2026 • Duration 52:06
This episode explores the life, scholarship, and theological legacy of biblical scholar Michael Heiser, best known for his work on the Divine Council worldview and the biblical unseen realm. Dru Johnson speaks with Mike Chu about Heiser’s academic background, his work with Logos Bible Software, his approach to critical and evangelical biblical scholarship, and the development of AWKNG School.
The conversation examines what Heiser meant by the Divine Council worldview and why he believed the biblical authors understood the unseen realm as a genuine reality that interacts with the physical world. Mike Chu explains Heiser’s approach to passages involving the sons of God, Elohim, angels, demons, and the Divine Council, while also discussing how Heiser distinguished careful biblical scholarship from conspiracy theories and speculative interpretations.
The episode also considers Heiser’s influence as a teacher and his commitment to helping people ask difficult questions about Scripture. Finally, the discussion turns to theosis, resurrection, Revelation, the new heavens and new earth, and Heiser’s understanding of humanity’s future participation in God’s divine council.
The episode offers an accessible introduction to Michael Heiser’s scholarship, theology, and lasting influence on biblical studies.
Can You Be Responsible for Someone Else’s Sin? Systemic Sin & the Bible (Andy Everhart) Ep. #270
Episode 274
Thursday, September 17, 2026 • Duration 51:42
What does the Bible say about individual responsibility, corporate responsibility, and systemic sin? Can someone be responsible for wrongdoing they did not personally commit? And how should Christians think about systemic racial injustice, repentance, and reparations?
In this episode of the Biblical Mind Podcast, Mike Tolliver speaks with Dr. Andy Everhart about the biblical relationship between individual and communal responsibility. Drawing from examples including Achan, King Josiah, John the Baptist, and Paul’s instructions to the Corinthian church, they explore how Scripture presents sin as something that can affect entire communities—not simply the individual who commits an act.
Everhart distinguishes between guilt and responsibility, arguing that people may inherit responsibilities through their relationships and membership in communities without necessarily inheriting guilt for another person’s actions. The conversation applies this framework to contemporary questions surrounding systemic racism and racial injustice, including the responsibilities of people who become members of communities shaped by historical wrongdoing.
The discussion also considers the relationship between repentance and reparative action, asking whether genuine repentance requires more than acknowledging wrongdoing and whether repairing damage can be a necessary response to injustice.
Ultimately, this episode offers a biblical framework for thinking about sin, community, responsibility, justice, reconciliation, and the ways individual actions can shape—and be shaped by—the communities around us.
Christians and Global Conflict: Navigating Faith and War (Austin Knuppe) Ep. #269
Episode 273
Thursday, September 10, 2026 • Duration 01:00:20
How should Christians think about war, conflict, justice, and peace in a world filled with competing narratives and seemingly endless complexity? In this episode, Dru Johnson talks with peacebuilding practitioner and political scientist Austin Knuppe about how Scripture, intellectual humility, lament, and Christian realism can shape the way Christians respond to global conflict.
Knuppe explains why biblical lament can provide an important framework for responding to injustice without demanding simplistic answers to suffering. He also discusses motivated reasoning, confirmation bias, and the danger of reducing complicated conflicts to narratives of obvious heroes and villains. Drawing from his experience in Rwanda, northern Iraq, and the broader field of peacebuilding, Knuppe explores the difficult work of rebuilding social cohesion after violence, including restoring trust, addressing trauma, and pursuing reconciliation.
The conversation also examines Israel and Palestine, Gaza, Russia and Ukraine, U.S. foreign policy, restorative justice, international aid, and the limits of applying one peacebuilding model to every conflict. Knuppe argues for intellectual hospitality, careful attention to local voices, and a willingness to say “I don’t know” while still pursuing wise and practical action.
For Christians seeking a thoughtful biblical and political perspective on war, peace, justice, reconciliation, and international conflict, this conversation offers a challenging alternative to simplistic answers.
Israel, Palestine, & Christian Responsibility: Part 2 (Bannoura & Fisk) Ep. #268
Episode 272
Thursday, September 3, 2026 • Duration 01:03:53
In this episode, Dru Johnson continues a challenging conversation about Israel, Palestine, Gaza, Hamas, Zionism, and Christian Zionism with Bruce N. Fisk and Daniel Bannoura. The discussion examines competing narratives about the history of Israel and Palestine and asks how Christians should think about the ongoing conflict.
Fisk and Bannoura critique what they describe as the dominant Israeli and Christian Zionist narratives, particularly their treatment of Palestinian history, the Nakba, the occupation, and Palestinian claims to national identity and self-determination. They also explore how Zionism has developed historically and discuss different forms of Jewish nationalism, including political, cultural, and binational approaches.
The conversation then turns to Gaza and Hamas, including questions surrounding violence, collective punishment, international law, and the use of terms such as genocide and apartheid. Bannoura offers a theological and historical analysis of Hamas, acknowledging the problems with its early rhetoric while emphasizing the importance of understanding the political conditions and experiences that contributed to its rise.
Finally, Fisk discusses the book Being Christian After the Desolation of Gaza and its call for Christians to move beyond simplistic binaries and engage more seriously with questions of peace, justice, Palestinian rights, Israel, and Christian theology.
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Masculine Men as Homemakers: From Andrew Tate to Biblical Manhood (Nancy Pearcey) Ep. #267
Episode 271
Thursday, August 27, 2026 • Duration 56:13
What does it mean to be a good man? In this episode, Dru Johnson talks with Professor Nancy Pearcey about masculinity, toxic masculinity, feminism, fatherhood, Christianity, and the cultural forces that have shaped modern ideas about men.
Pearcey explains why she wrote her book on masculinity after seeing increasingly hostile portrayals of men in popular culture and explores the deeper history behind these attitudes. Rather than tracing hostility toward men only to second-wave feminism, she argues that its roots extend back to the Industrial Revolution and changing ideas about work, family, masculinity, and human nature.
The conversation examines how Darwinism and evolutionary psychology have contributed to negative cultural scripts about male aggression, sexuality, and dominance—and how those ideas can help explain the appeal of figures such as Andrew Tate. Pearcey also discusses research suggesting that Christian men can be loving husbands, engaged fathers, and committed family members.
The episode explores the importance of recovering a healthier vision of biblical masculinity centered on responsibility, virtue, service, protection, provision, fatherhood, and family. It also considers how working from home, integrating family and work, and reconnecting fathers with their children could help reshape modern family life.
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Can You Believe & Doubt at the Same Time? Cognitive Science's Take on Faith (Joshua Mugg) Ep. #266
Episode 270
Thursday, August 20, 2026 • Duration 47:02
What does it mean to believe something—and can we genuinely believe while also experiencing doubt? In this episode of the Center for Hebraic Thought and the Biblical Mind Podcast, Mike Tolliver talks with philosopher Dr. Joshua Mugg about his book From Human Reasoning to Belief and his alternative to the influential “dual process” theory of human reasoning.
Mugg explains why he rejects the idea that the mind is simply divided between fast, intuitive thinking and slow, rational thinking. Instead, he proposes that human reasoning operates across multiple dimensions, allowing us to adjust how we think, gather evidence, recruit other beliefs, and repeatedly reconsider our conclusions.
The conversation then explores how this account of human cognition helps illuminate one of the Bible’s most intriguing statements: “I believe; help my unbelief” in the Gospel of Mark. Mugg’s theory of fragmented belief suggests that people can hold different beliefs within distinct cognitive contexts, helping explain how faith and doubt can coexist.
Mike and Josh also discuss anxiety, emotion and reasoning, conspiracy theories, religious belief, deconstruction, Michael Polanyi, Esther Meek, the relationship between faith and certainty, and whether faith will remain in the eschaton. This wide-ranging conversation offers a fresh perspective on belief, doubt, faith, and what it means to know.
Healthy Tools: How Our Tech Can Work for Us (Felicia Wu Song) Ep. #265
Episode 269
Thursday, August 13, 2026 • Duration 48:31
How is technology shaping the way we live, relate to one another, and understand what it means to be human? In this episode, Dru Johnson talks with sociologist Dr. Felicia Song about digital technology, AI, social media, Christian discipleship, and the spiritual consequences of living in a world of constant connection.
Song argues that Christians should resist both technological hype and fearmongering and instead develop a more thoughtful, historically informed approach to digital culture. Rather than simply asking whether technology is “good” or “bad,” she encourages us to consider what our devices are actually doing to our relationships, habits, attention, and embodied experience.
The conversation explores social media and mental health, AI companionship, the potential displacement of human relationships, and the ways technology is reshaping churches and Christian communities. Song also challenges Christians to reconsider whether Sunday worship should be one of the few places where people can put their devices away and genuinely rest.
Drawing on the Christian contemplative tradition of silence and stillness, Song suggests that spiritual maturity in the digital age may require learning how to disconnect, be present, and recover forms of human connection that technology cannot replace.
The Puritans, Mosaic Law, and the Roots of Christian Nationalism (Yisroel Benporat) Ep. #264
Episode 268
Thursday, August 6, 2026 • Duration 53:55
What did the Puritans really believe about the Old Testament, Mosaic law, Jews, and Israel? In this episode of the Biblical Mind Podcast, historian Dr. Yisroel Benporat explores the fascinating and often misunderstood relationship between Puritan theology and the Hebrew Bible.
Benporat explains why Puritans attempted to apply biblical judicial laws to early American society, including laws concerning adultery, the Sabbath, and criminal punishment. He unpacks the distinction between moral, ceremonial, and judicial law and shows how Puritan thinkers wrestled with the relationship between the Old and New Testaments.
The conversation also challenges the popular myth that Puritans were essentially “quasi-Jews.” Although Puritans were deeply fascinated by Hebrew Scripture and Jewish texts, their views of contemporary Jews were shaped by Christian supersessionism and a strong desire for Jewish conversion.
Finally, Benporat examines Puritan eschatology and the restoration of Israel, exploring why some scholars see connections between Puritan thought and later Christian Zionism. The episode concludes by considering what Puritanism can teach us about biblical interpretation, Christian nationalism, theocracy, Jewish-Christian relations, and the enduring Hebraic roots of Christianity.
How the Bible Reads the Bible (Gary Edward Schnittjer) Ep. #263
Episode 267
Thursday, July 30, 2026 • Duration 55:43
How should Christians study the Bible? Does Scripture itself teach us how it should be read? In this episode of The Biblical Mind, Dru Johnson is joined by Dr. Gary Edward Schnittjer, distinguished professor of Old Testament for Cairn Theological Seminary at Cairn University, to discuss his new book, Connected: How Scripture Guides the Study of Scripture. Together they explore why the Bible should be interpreted on its own terms rather than through modern assumptions, and how the biblical authors model faithful reading of Scripture itself.
The conversation begins with the challenges of teaching today's college students, biblical literacy, and how classroom practices have changed over the past three decades. From there, Schnittjer explains why the Bible's literary artistry, historical context, and overarching narrative are essential for understanding God's revelation. Rather than treating Scripture as isolated verses, he argues that the Bible presents one unified story centered on God's covenant relationship with humanity through Jesus Christ.
Along the way, Dru and Gary discuss intertextuality, the importance of reading biblical books within their historical setting, why ancient treaties help illuminate covenant language, and even why Nehemiah might be "the first American" in the Bible. This episode offers practical wisdom for pastors, students, and everyday readers who want to read the Bible more faithfully and discover how Scripture itself teaches us to study Scripture.
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