Mobile automation is messy. Brownfield constraints. Finance is pushing back on ROI. Safety sign-offs. Departments that need actually to work together. The Automation Journey cuts through the noise and helps you make decisions that stick.
Each episode tackles one fundamental question: Where do we even start? How do we build a business case that finance will believe? What does "safe by design" actually mean? How do we avoid vendor lock-in?
Hosted by Rocrich AGV Solutions, a team that has implemented automation in some of the toughest manufacturing and logistics environments, the show shares lessons from practitioners, safety leaders, and integration professionals who’ve been there.
The show is for operations and engineering leaders in manufacturing, logistics, food & beverage, and pharma - anyone who influences automation decisions, safety approvals, or budgets.
You'll get clear first steps, plain-English safety and standards guidance, integration playbooks, and credible ROI framing you can actually use, plus actionable tools and industry updates to keep your plans on track.
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The One Question That Exposes a Bad Automation Vendor
Season 1 · Episode 8
Wednesday, October 21, 2026 • Duration 12:35
Ask a vendor where their system has failed before, and you learn fast whether they are being straight with you.
Adrian Kumar of DHL Supply Chain tells host Colin Hutchings why suppliers sometimes quote productivity numbers that only work in theory, and what customers should ask before signing. Kumar walks through a pick-to-belt project that got pulled years after go-live once the real numbers stopped adding up.
KEY MOMENTS:
- Suppliers can quote "in theory" numbers, like 600 picks an hour, that drop closer to 300 in daily operation
- Customers should ask vendors directly where their solution has fallen short and what they changed afterward
- Most major installation problems surface within the first year, but full reevaluation often waits for new leadership
- A pick-to-belt system from the 1970s was ripped out years later once ongoing operating costs outweighed the gains
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How to Stress-Test Your Automation Business Case Before the Board Signs Off
Season 1 · Episode 8
Thursday, October 1, 2026 • Duration 01:00:05
A former DHL executive who oversaw as many as 500 automation projects a year explains why so many warehouse automation business cases fall apart after go-live.
You built the business case, got sign-off, and installed the system. Then the SKU mix shifts, peak volume spikes, and inventory accuracy falls apart, and suddenly the numbers don't add up.
Adrian Kumar spent more than two decades at DHL in third-party logistics, designing and evaluating automation solutions across hundreds of projects a year. Now working independently, he brings a bias-free view of where mobile automation pays off and where it quietly fails.
Listen and you'll get a practical checklist for evaluating any automation project: the vendor questions that expose weak business cases, the assumptions that get glossed over during solution design, and the operational realities that only show up after go-live. Adrian breaks down why some AGV and robotics investments scale successfully for years while others get ripped out after five.
This episode covers due diligence for vendor selection, brownfield constraints, peak-volume stress testing, inventory accuracy, and the indirect labor costs automation vendors don't always mention. It's built for operations leaders preparing their first automation business case, not for anyone looking for a vendor sales pitch.
## Key Takeaways
- One vendor question separates the honest suppliers from the ones overselling their technology, and it's not about their success stories.
- Solution designs get built on ideal-case assumptions. Adrian explains which real-world variables (SKU mix, returns, non-conveyable items) blow those assumptions up on day one.
- A major retailer invested tens of millions in a pick-to-belt system that got ripped out years later. The reason wasn't the technology, it was math nobody stress-tested upfront.
- Peak volume planning isn't a formula. Adrian lays out when designing to peak makes sense and when leasing flexible capacity is the smarter play.
## Chapter Markers
00:00 Cold open: the risk of large automation write-offs
00:32 Guest introduction: Adrian Kumar's 3PL background
How to Stress-Test Your Automation Business Case Before the Board Signs Off
Episode 8
Thursday, October 1, 2026 • Duration 01:00:05
A former DHL executive who oversaw as many as 500 automation projects a year explains why so many warehouse automation business cases fall apart after go-live.
Adrian Kumar spent more than two decades at DHL in third-party logistics, designing and evaluating automation solutions across hundreds of projects a year. Now working independently, he brings a bias-free view of where mobile automation pays off and where it quietly fails.
Chapter Markers
00:00 Cold open: the risk of large automation write-offs
00:32 Guest introduction: Adrian Kumar's 3PL background
05:13 Go-live surprises that expose bad assumptions
08:13 Cookie-cutter rollouts versus bespoke automation builds
10:35 How automation decisions changed over 20 years
12:53 Are automation success rates actually improving
15:31 Where customer assumptions go wrong upfront
18:08 Starting small before a big-bang investment
20:53 Lighthouse sites versus multi-site pilot testing
23:43 Where suppliers overstate achievable productivity
26:39 The vendor questions every customer should ask
30:24 Auditing automation performance years after go-live
34:41 The pick-to-belt system that got ripped out
36:13 Ergonomics and the human case for automation
38:13 Has brownfield-friendly automation caught up
How to Judge an Automation Vendor Before You Sign the Contract
Season 1 · Episode 7
Thursday, September 3, 2026 • Duration 41:05
The robot is the easy part. What happens around it decides whether your automation project works or ends up gathering dust in the corner.
You've seen it happen: a company buys the flashy AGV or AMR, it doesn't hit expectations, and within a year it's sitting unused while everyone blames "the technology." If you're weighing a warehouse automation investment and worried about repeating someone else's mistake, this one's for you.
Brian Spradlin is President of Rocrich AGV Solutions, with two decades in automation and robotics including a run as Vice President of Global Product Development at KION Group. He also hosts this podcast, which means he's heard these lessons from the guest chair as often as the host's.
Brian breaks down why the hardest part of automation was never the robot itself, and what actually separates a deployment that pays off from one that ends up switched off in a corner. You'll walk away knowing what questions to ask a vendor, what to demand in a service contract, and where the line sits between smart scope-cutting and a mistake you'll regret for years.
Expect a conversation on how buyer behaviour has shifted from chasing shiny trade show demos to demanding real ecosystem thinking, where humanoid robots genuinely stand today, and what "invisible" project work actually looks like on the ground. This is for operations, supply chain and warehousing leaders evaluating automation vendors, not for anyone looking for a product pitch.
Key Takeaways
- The industry has moved past "should we automate" toward a harder question about long-term partnership, and Brian explains why that shift is protecting buyers from repeating old mistakes.
- Humanoid robots draw the crowds at trade shows, but Brian lays out the cost, battery life and safety realities that put real commercial viability years away.
Manager of International Safety Standards: Why Listing Every AGV Standard on Your RFP Could Backfire
Season 1 · Episode 6
Wednesday, August 5, 2026 • Duration 52:14
Mobile robot standards are multiplying faster than most operations teams can track them.
Your RFP lists every AGV and AMR safety standard under the sun, but does anyone on your team actually know which ones apply, or why? Between ANSI B56.5, R15.08, ISO 3691-4 and the forthcoming ISO 26058, it's easy to end up compliant on paper and exposed in practice.
Chris Soranno is Manager of International Safety Standards at SICK Sensor Intelligence and chairman of the ANSI Industrial Robot Subcommittee on Industrial Mobile Robot Safety. He's a TÜV Rheinland certified Functional Safety Expert, sits on ISO's committee revising ISO 11161, and was inducted into the ANSI B11 Standards Hall of Fame for his work on machinery safety standards. Few people alive can explain not just what these standards say, but why.
This episode gives you a clear way to tell which standard applies to your AGV, AMR, or IMR deployment, and where the gray areas actually sit. Chris walks through the difference between North American and international approaches to responsibility, and why that distinction changes what your risk assessment needs to cover.
You'll hear how R15.08 was built to close the gap between mobile bases and robotic arms, why B56.5 still governs anything with forks, and what's changing now that R15.08 Part 3 has finally been published for end users. Colin and Chris also cover robots-as-a-service, reprogramming AMRs on the fly, and the honest risks of using AI to interpret safety standards.
This is for operations directors, safety leaders, and procurement managers writing their next automation RFP. If you've ever handed a vendor a checklist of standards without knowing why they're on it, this conversation is for you.
Key Takeaways
The real gray area in mobile automation safety often isn't the "what," it's the "who." North American and international standards assign responsibility to different stakeholders, and getting that wrong can leave gaps nobody's covering.
Whether ANSI B56.5 or R15.08 applies to your AGV or AMR isn't always as simple as "does it have forks." Chris explains the nuance procurement teams miss when they just tick standards off an RFP checklist.
Multi-Vendor Automation Projects: Where Things Go Wrong and How to Fix Them
Season 1 · Episode 5
Wednesday, July 22, 2026 • Duration 16:02
Scope creep, vendor accountability gaps, and undertrained teams at go-live. Three of the most common and costly problems in complex automation deployments - and three that are almost always avoidable.
This excerpt from Episode 5 of The Automation Journey covers the section of the conversation where Yara Alsuwailem, Head of Engineering and Implementation at EQ Depot, goes deep on what causes these problems and exactly what integrators and customers need to do to prevent them. For the full conversation - including project readiness, safety standards, post go-live support agreements, and Yara's final advice on communication - listen to the complete episode.
Key Takeaways
Why scope creep disguised as minor tweaks is one of the hardest delays to spot - and how customer sign-off before execution prevents it
How multi-system projects create multiple points of failure - and how workshop meetings and data logs keep accountability clear
Where failures most commonly occur between systems installed by different vendors - and how to resolve them without finger pointing
Why the first 90 days post go-live are the hardest - and what "nobody wants to touch the big expensive machine" actually costs an operation
Why training during commissioning - not after - is the single most effective way to prepare a customer's team for go-live
What's Next?
In the full episode we cover project readiness, safety standards, post go-live support, and Yara's closing advice on communication.
Watch the full episode here https://youtu.be/LS8TeXimmMI
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What It Really Takes to Deliver Complex Automation Projects - A Project Manager's View
Season 1 · Episode 5
Wednesday, July 8, 2026 • Duration 43:28
Your automated system is installed. The vendor says it's ready. So why isn't it performing?
Scope creep, vendor accountability gaps, and underperforming systems in the first 90 days - these are three of the most common and costly challenges in complex automation deployments. And they're almost always avoidable.
This excerpt from Episode 5 of The Automation Journey covers the section of the conversation where Yara Alsuwailem, Head of Engineering and Implementation at EQ Depot, goes deep on what causes these problems and exactly what integrators and customers need to do to prevent them. For the full conversation - including project readiness, safety standards, post go-live support agreements, and Yara's final advice on communication - listen to the complete episode.
Key Takeaways
Why scope creep disguised as minor tweaks is one of the hardest delays to spot - and how customer sign-off before execution prevents it
How multi-system projects create multiple points of failure - and how workshop meetings and data logs keep accountability clear
Where failures most commonly occur between systems installed by different vendors - and how to resolve them without finger pointing
Why the first 90 days post go-live are the hardest - and what "nobody wants to touch the big expensive machine" actually costs an operation
Why training during commissioning - not after - is the single most effective way to prepare a customer's team for go-live
What's Next?
Subscribe, review, and share with others who are planning or delivering a complex automation project and want to know what it really takes to make it work.
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Connect with Colin Hutchings on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colinbhutchings/
Connect with Yara Alsuwailem on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yara-alsuwailem/
ANSI B56.5, R15.08, ISO 3691-4 - A Plain-English Guide to Automation Standards
Season 1 · Episode 4
Thursday, July 2, 2026 • Duration 30:26
Most automation buyers know they need to comply with standards. Very few know which ones apply, where the boundaries sit, or what happens when two standards conflict.
This excerpt from Episode 4 of The Automation Journey covers the standards landscape governing mobile automation in North America - what ANSI B56.5, R15.08, and ISO 3691-4 each require, how to choose the right framework for your facility, and why compliance and a well-designed automated operation are not the same thing.
For the full conversation - including risk assessment, functional safety, and what buyers should be asking their vendors - listen to the complete episode.
Key Takeaways
>> How to navigate ANSI B56.5, ANSI R15.08, and ISO 3691-4 - what each covers and when each applies
>> Why national and international standards take different approaches to risk, and what that means for your deployment strategy
>> Why compliance with a standard is not the same as a well-designed automated operation
>> What the gap between standards compliance and genuine operational readiness actually looks like on the floor
What's Next?
For the full conversation - including risk assessment, functional safety, and what buyers should be asking their vendors - listen to the complete episode on your preferred platform. Subscribe so you don't miss future episodes of The Automation Journey.
The Automation Standards Breakdown You'll Wish You'd Seen Sooner
Season 1 · Episode 4
Wednesday, June 3, 2026 • Duration 01:16:38
Your automated vehicle meets every standard on paper. But is your facility actually ready to operate differently?
In this episode, Colin sits down with Pat Davison, Director of Standards at MHI - the largest material handling and supply chain association in North America - to cut through one of the most misunderstood areas of any automation project: the standards landscape.
Pat has been involved in shaping ANSI B56.5, R15.08, and the broader framework governing how automated vehicles are designed, deployed, and operated.
From risk assessment and functional safety to what compliance actually means in practice - this is the conversation most automation buyers wish they'd had before their first vendor meeting.
Key Takeaways
>> How to navigate ANSI B56.5, R15.08, and ISO 3691-4, what each covers, where the boundaries sit, and how to choose the right framework for your facility
>> Why compliance with a standard is not the same as a well-designed automated operation and what the gap looks like in practice
>> How to approach risk assessment with confidence, the nouns vs. verbs framework, the NIOSH hierarchy, and why most teams underestimate what's involved
>> What functional safety actually means in a mobile automation context and the common mistakes operations teams make when specifying safety systems
>> Why nobody wants to be first but everybody wants to be second and what that means for organisations planning their first deployment
>> What questions buyers should be asking their vendors about standards and compliance that most never think to ask
What next?
Subscribe and follow so you don't miss what's coming next on The Automation Journey.
Why Most Automation Pilots Fail - And the Planning Mindset That Changes Everything
Season 1 · Episode 3
Wednesday, May 13, 2026 • Duration 31:17
Most automation projects start in the wrong place. The technology gets chosen before the process gets redesigned. The pilot gets scoped too small to succeed. And by the time the robots arrive, the foundation wasn't ready for them.
In this excerpt from Episode 3 of The Automation Journey, Troy Donnelly covers the fundamentals that determine whether automation delivers - from mobile automation complexity in mixed environments, to the hidden cost of an underpowered pilot, to the technology trends worth watching and the ones that are still mostly demo.
Listen to the full episode now to hear Troy's vendor selection framework, his goods-to-person process redesign example, and everything in between.
And please follow and subscribe so you don't miss what's coming next on The Automation Journey.
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40:43 Evaluating new mobile robot technology
43:14 Where automation wins are today: travel, pick, storage
46:06 How bad inventory data breaks automated systems
49:20 The assumption to stress-test before sign-off
51:50 Designing for peak volume versus staying flexible
54:51 The McDonald's lesson in balance and ergonomics
57:48 Closing thoughts: the vendor question that reveals honesty
Useful Links & Resources
Adrian Kumar on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriankumar/
- Systems fail at interfaces, not inside the robot itself. Brian explains why the software connections nobody demos are where most automation projects actually break.
- Ask who picks up the phone at 2am before you sign anything. Brian shares exactly what to demand from a vendor's service and support contract, and why the answer often surprises buyers.
Chapter Markers
00:00 Intro and the LinkedIn post that started it
02:33 Why customers now buy the ecosystem, not just the robot
04:56 Humanoid robots: hype or real solution?
09:09 What's actually interesting beyond the trade show floor
10:30 Sponsor break
10:55 The invisible work behind every automation project
12:50 Red flags in "easy deployment" marketing claims
14:46 Rebuilding trust after a failed automation attempt
17:42 What a proof of concept should look like in 2026
19:02 What to expect from a good automation vendor
21:11 The most underestimated parts of deployment
23:54 What keeps a system running at 2am
26:56 Sponsor break
27:26 Do you need the same technician who installed it?
30:10 Three takeaways for getting automation right
32:22 The tension between procurement and operations
35:08 Where the line is on cutting scope
38:36 Behind the scenes of The Automation Journey
Useful Links & Resources
Brian Spradlin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-spradlin-40450620/
Got a story about an automation project that went sideways, or one that worked better than expected? Tell us in the comments. We're curious how many of you have equipment sitting unused because the "invisible" work got skipped.
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Reprogramming a scanner or changing a payload on your AMR can quietly turn you from an end user into an integrator, with a completely different set of safety obligations you need to meet.
Running a safety standard through AI to save time carries real risk. Chris has seen cases where the output doesn't match what the standard's authors actually intended, plus a copyright problem most people never consider.
Useful Links & Resources
Chris Soranno on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrissoranno-safetyjedi/
SICK Sensor Intelligence: https://www.sick.com
ANSI (American National Standards Institute): https://www.ansi.org
A3 Association for Advancing Automation (R15.08 standards body): https://www.automate.org
Got a question about safety standards for your next mobile automation project? Send it our way, we're always looking for real-world scenarios to put to future guests.
Know an operations director, safety leader, or procurement manager writing an RFP right now? Send them this episode before they hit publish.
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