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| Springboks Collapse: Wallabies Historic Win | THAT RUGBY UNION SHOW | 17 Aug 2025 | 00:45:01 | |
Join us on That Rugby Union Show as we break down one of the most dismal Springbok performances in recent memory. The Wallabies pulled off a historic comeback in Johannesburg, snapping a 62-year hoodoo with a stunning 38ā22 victory. The Boks went from cruising at 22ā0 to completely falling apart ā six unanswered Aussie tries told the story. Weāll unpack: š How the Springboks managed to implode after a dream start š¦šŗ What this win means for the Wallabies going forward šµļø The worrying cracks in Bok tactics, fitness, and mental game š Subscribe for weekly match previews and rugby chaos š Join the That Rugby Union Show community ā donāt just be a spectator š New episodes drop every week. | |||
| Rugby Champs is back!: Match Preview: The SA Vs Aus Ellis Park Showdown | 16 Aug 2025 | 00:34:47 | |
The Rugby Championship is here, and the Boks are about to throw down against a Wallaby side packed with muscle, mind games, and 35-year-old flyhalves. In this episode, we go full tilt into Saturday's test in Johannesburg: ⢠Rassieās early team selection antics ā did it work?⢠Schmidtās injury chaos and 6ā2 bench split bluff⢠Siya Kolisi picked at No. 8 ā why it could work (or blow up)⢠The Aussie front row is a truck stop ā can the Bok scrum hold?⢠Match-ups to watch: Will Skelton vs Etzebeth, Manie Libbok vs the altitude⢠Score predictions and some vintage banter š Hosts:Xola Ntshinga and Sim Xabanisa. If you enjoy the show, follow us, share it, and tell us who youāre backing.New episodes every week. The rivalry never rests. Neither do we.š± Watch the video version on YouTube: @ThatRugbyUnion | |||
| FEAR FRANCE? | GURTHRO STEENKAMP ON SCRUMS, STALLIONS & SOUTH AFRICAāS EURO STRUGGLE | 02 May 2025 | 01:29:52 | |
Rugbyās never off ā and neither are we. šļø Gurthro Steenkamp joins Xola ā Bok centurion, SA Player of the Year, now La Rochelle scrum guru ā to break down the French rugby machine from the inside. Should the Boks be worried? š§ Simnikiwe Xabanisa returns with flyhalf-level insight and a few spicy takes. Inside the Episode: š° Rugby News Beat: š§ Listen now ā and pretend youāre working. | |||
| š„ BULLS CHARGE| ROBBIE FLECK ON IKEYSā CUP GLORY | 25 Apr 2025 | 00:56:42 | |
Rugby never stops ā and neither do we. This week, on That Rugby Union Show, weāre diving into it like a loose forward at a buffet. šļø Xola sits down with Robbie Fleck to unpack UCT Ikeysā epic Varsity Cup win. How did they pull it off? Whatās it mean for SA rugby? Weāve got the man himself ā and heās bringing all the insights. Then, we hit the big leagues⦠š BULLS: CHARGE OR CHOKE?⢠Historic win at Thomond Park: Bulls break Munsterās home record. First SA team to do it there. Massive.⢠Playoff predictions: Are home quarterfinals on the cards, or just a pipe dream?⢠Wilco Louw? Scrumming like a beast.⢠Ruan NortjĆ© and Goosen rising to the occasion.⢠Hanekom and Coetzee rested ā smart rotation or risky gamble?⢠Team selection breakdown: Whatās working, whatās not, and whoās injured?⢠The Franco Factor: Is Jake White sweating as Franco Smithās Glasgow heats up? š Plus:⢠Stormers injury updates: Sasha and Eben making their way back.⢠Stephen Donald says the URCās ālow-levelā? Yeah, weāve got some thoughts⦠š¢ Get in on the chaos.āļø Like & Subscribe for weekly rugby real talkš Smash the bell so you donāt miss an episodeš¬ Got beef or love? Drop it in the comments ā we might shout you out next show š§ Listen while pretending to work:š Spotifyš Apple Podcasts š² For more rugby heat:šŗ YouTube: / @thatrugbyunionš¦ X: http://www.x.com/ThatRugbyUnionšø Insta: / thatrugbyunion #RobbieFleck #VarsityCup #BullsRugby #Goosen #WilcoLouw #FrancoSmith #JakeWhite #RugbyTalk #TRUShow #URC #Springboks #RugbyUnfiltered | |||
| š£ SA SCREWED AGAIN? | RWC HOSTING BOMBSHELL | 18 Apr 2025 | 01:25:39 | |
Rugby never sleepsāespecially when World Rugby keeps shifting the damn goalposts. This week, legendary sports writer Simnikiwe Xabanisa joins us to break down the biggest stories lighting up the rugby world: šæš¦ RWC 2035? Dead.South Africaās World Cup hosting hopes are toastāoutspent, outmanoeuvred, and no longer in the race. š„ Bomb Squad BacklashMatt Williams blames the 7-1 split for Kitshoffās injury. Rassie hits back. World Rugby finally weighs in. š§ Old Guard vs. New BloodIs Erasmus playing a smart long gameāor just playing favourites? š Etzebeth ReturnsThe Sharks unleash 12 Boks, including the big man himself. Is it too little, too late? š¤ No fluff. No filters. Just the rugby that matters. š§ LISTEN NOWš Spotify: [Link]š Apple: [Link]šŗ YouTube: /@ThatRugbyUnion š² Follow:š¦ X: @ThatRugbyUnionšø Instagram: /ThatRugbyUnion #RugbyUnion #Springboks #2035RWC #Etzebeth #RassieErasmus #SharksRugby #BombSquad #TRUShow #Xabanisa #WorldRugby #GameOn | |||
| šļø Elton Jantjies: IāLL BE BACK!!! | 11 Apr 2025 | 00:58:53 | |
This week on That Rugby Union Show, we bring you an exclusive announcement from former Springbok fly-half Elton Jantjies: he's returning to professional rugby. After a long layoff and public scrutiny, Elton joins us for a rare and focused conversation about where he's headed nextāon and off the field. No sensationalism, just a player with unfinished business, fresh ambitions, and something to prove. In this episode:
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| Save our Scrums with guest Robbi Kempson | 04 Apr 2025 | 01:11:16 | |
Rugby never sleepsābig wins, crushing losses, squad shake-ups, and the stories shaping the game. That Rugby Union Show is where we break it all down. This week, weāre tackling one of the hottest topics in rugby: Is the scrum under threat? šØ Save Our Scrums ā With special guest Robbie Kempsonš Why the Boks Dominate the Scrum ā The science behind SAās set-piece powerā ļø World Rugbyās Rule Changes ā Are scrums being phased out?šŗšø The MRL Experiment ā Is the U.S. killing the scrum for good?š Bok Barometer ā Whoās next in line for the Springbok front row?š URC & Sevens Action ā Key results, fixtures & Blitzboksā Hong Kong chase Don't miss itāthis is one scrum you donāt want to collapse! Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. š² Follow us for more: YouTube: @ThatRugbyUnion X (Twitter): @ThatRugbyUnion Instagram:@ThatRugbyUnion #RugbyUnion #SpringbokPride #SwysDeBruin #TRUShow #RugbyTalk | |||
| Inside the Mind of a Springbok Coach with guest Swys de Bruin | 27 Mar 2025 | 01:13:12 | |
Rugby never sleepsābig wins, crushing losses, squad shake-ups, and the stories shaping the game. That Rugby Union Show is where we break it all down. This week, weāre diving into the mind of one of rugbyās sharpest thinkers: Swys de Bruināperformance coach for SA Rugby and a mastermind of attacking play. Topics this week: š Springbok Womenās updates, World Cup prep & Nadine Roosā impact šŖ Player welfare: injuries & mental health in the game š§ Inside the Springbok machineāhow Rassie & co. dominate through tactics š Whoās next for the Boks? Frontrunners to take over from Rassie Erasmus š URC & Sevens actionākey results & Blitzboksā Hong Kong chase Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. š² Follow us for more: YouTube: @ThatRugbyUnion X (Twitter): @ThatRugbyUnionInstagram: @ThatRugbyUnion #RugbyUnion #SpringbokPride #SwysDeBruin #TRUShow #RugbyTalk | |||
| The Rise of a Legend with guest Breyton Paulse | 20 Mar 2025 | 01:10:24 | |
Rugby never sleeps ā big wins, crushing losses, squad shake-ups, and the stories shaping the game. And That Rugby Union Show is where we break it all down. For our inaugural episode, weāre joined by Springbok legend Breyton Paulseā64 Test caps, 26 tries, and a career packed with unforgettable moments. But tonight, itās not just about the past. Weāre diving into: š The biggest rugby headlines right now š Team selections, tournament results & shake-ups š„ Breytonās unfiltered take on todayās gameš War stories from his playing days š¢ Engage with Us ā Like & subscribe for weekly rugby discussions. š Hit the notification bell so you never miss a live show. ā Got a question? Drop it in the chatāweāll feature the best ones! #RugbyUnion #SpringbokPride #BreytonPaulse #RugbyTalk #RugbyLegends #TRUShow #RugbyNation #RugbyPassion #WorldOfRugby #RugbyUpdates | |||
| Flip van der Merwe: Bok Legacy, French Rugby Power & Life After the Game | 01 Aug 2025 | 01:05:22 | |
This week on That Rugby Union Show, former Springbok lock Flip van der Merwe joins us for a straight-talking, no-frills chat about life in and out of rugby. From a late break into pro rugby and winning Super Rugby with the Bulls to his move to France and now running a rugby club, Flip shares the moments that shaped him. We cover: We also dig into Rassie Erasmusā current Bok setup, why French rugby is booming financially, and whether Flipās future might bring him back to lead South African rugby from the front office. šļø New episodes of That Rugby Union Show every week ā tap Follow and join the conversation. #Springboks #RugbyPodcast #FlipVanDerMerwe #FrenchRugby #RassieErasmus | |||
| Akona & Odwa Ndungane on Twin Confusion, Bok Identity & Leadership That Matters | 25 Jul 2025 | 01:02:16 | |
This week, Springbok legends Akona and Odwa Ndungane join the show for a brutally honest and often hilarious conversation about growing up as twin pros in South African rugby. From being mistaken for each other in the Bulls locker room to weighing in on what the Bok jersey should represent today ā the Ndungane brothers bring insight, experience, and a few good chirps. We get into:
A laid-back but sharp episode with two of the most respected (and underrated) names in the game. š Follow the show for fresh episodes every week. #ThatRugbyUnionShow #NdunganeTwins #Springboks #Bokke #SouthAfricanRugby #RugbyPodcast #BokCulture | |||
| 30 Years Since '95: Mark Andrews on World Cup Glory & Boks vs Italy | 03 Jul 2025 | 00:57:26 | |
1995 World Cup winner Mark Andrews joinsXola Ntshinga to reflect on rugbyās wildest era, the Natal hard men, and why Italy at Loftus wonāt be the walkover youāre expecting. Old-school grit meets modern Bok talk. šæš¦ ANDREWS ON ā95 š®š¹ BOKS vs ITALY PREVIEWTshituka gets his first cap, Grant Williams starts at 9, and Italyās Six Nations form demands respect. Loftus wonāt be a walk in the park. š§ THE SIM BIN šļø Listen Now:Unfiltered Rugby Talk Every Weekšŗ YouTube: youtube.com/@ThatRugbyUnion š² Follow the chaos: #ThatRugbyUnionShow #MarkAndrews #Springboks #ItalyTest #RWC1995 #Loftus #SharksRugby #SimBin #XolaNtshinga #SimXabanisa #BokLegends #UnfilteredRugby | |||
| Kobus Wiese: The Punch, the Cup & the Chaos | 03 Jul 2025 | 01:12:42 | |
Springbok legend Kobus Wiese joins Xola Ntshinga and Sim Xabanisa to talk 1995, Boet Erasmus brawls, and what rugbyās lost in the age of analytics. šæš¦ WIESE ON ā95 š§¢ BOKS vs BARBARIANS š¦ LIONS IN OZ š URC FINAL VERDICT š CRAVEN WEEK CHAOS š§ THE SIM BIN šļø Listen Now ā Unfiltered Rugby Talk Every Week š² Follow the chaos: #ThatRugbyUnionShow #KobusWiese #Springboks #RWC1995 #URC #CravenWeek #SimBin #RugbyLegends #UnfilteredRugby | |||
| Rassie Reloaded: Bomb Squad Back & Wink-Gate Erupts | 06 Jun 2025 | 01:26:39 | |
Rassie drops the squad and Ireland loses its mind over a wink. šæš¦ RASSIEāS PICKSThe Bok boss names squads for the Barbarians, Italy, and Georgia ā whoās missing, whoās lucky, and what it says about 2025. š©ļø STORMERS STUFFEDDobboās men got dismantled. We unpack the Stormersā collapse: tactics, turnovers, and temperament. š WINK-GATEHendrikse winked. Ireland combusted.Rassie clapped back. Jacques said itās personal.Sim says: rugby needs more villains. š§ THE SIM BINURC chaos, Springbok Womenās rugby, and righteous rants ā Sim lets fly. šļø Listen Now ā Unfiltered Rugby Talk Every Weekš Spotify: [Insert Link]š Apple: [Insert Link]šŗ YouTube: youtube.com/@ThatRugbyUnion š² Follow the chaos:š¦ X: x.com/ThatRugbyUnionšø Insta: @thatrugbyunion #ThatRugbyUnionShow #Springboks #Rassie #SimBin #URC #RugbyControversy #Stormers #GaryGold | |||
| YOU CANāT KILL THE CHEETAHS | URC QFs, Club World Cup & Bok Future | 30 May 2025 | 01:11:04 | |
Rugbyās unkillable underdogs are back ā and That Rugby Union Show is all over it. šļø Xola Ntshinga and Sim Xabanisa are joined by Rory Duncan and Frans Steyn to talk survival, resurrection, and rugby politics ā Cheetahs style. š You Canāt Kill the CheetahsFrom near extinction to international ambition, the Cheetahs story isnāt over ā itās just heating up. āļø War Stories from BloemDuncan on captaining Currie Cup champions, coaching in Japan, and business school.Frans on debuting at 19, life abroad, and stepping into rugby leadership. š Club World Cup: Bold Vision or Kak Idea?š¦ Springboks, the Lions, and Scheduling Madnessš URC Quarterfinals: Whoās In, Whoās Done?š§ The Sim Bin ā Sim vents, rants, and (maybe) makes sense. š¬ Got thoughts? Simās reading the comments.šŗ Want visuals? Watch on YouTube: @ThatRugbyUnionšø Follow us on Insta: @thatrugbyunionš¦ Hit us on X: @ThatRugbyUnion #ThatRugbyUnionShow #ToyotaCheetahs #URC #Springboks #FransSteyn #RoryDuncan #Cheetahs #CurrieCup #ClubWorldCup #SimBin #RugbyUnfiltered | |||
| Maroās Lions, Schmidtās Wildcards & SAās URC Fate | 30 May 2025 | 00:55:02 | |
Rugbyās never off ā and neither are we. This week, Xola and Sim break down the headlines that matter: š¦ Lions Squad Revealed: Maro Itoje takes the captaincy ā bold move or just hype? š¦ Wallaby Wildcards: Joe Schmidtās calling James OāConnor. Inspired or insane? šæš¦ URC Crunch Time: Just two rounds left ā who makes the QFs, and whoās hanging by a thread? Plus: Lions snubs, SAās playoff chances, and why the Wallabies are entering chaos mode. Itās smart talk, real takes, and no fluff. Just rugby, unfiltered. š§ Listen weekly on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & everywhere you get your fix. | |||
| STORMERS, SHARKS, BULLS ON THE BRINK | Willemse Banned, URC QFs & R14K Bok Tickets | 30 May 2025 | 01:19:14 | |
Rugbyās chaos engine keeps purring ā and weāre back to fuel the fire.šļø Xola Ntshinga and Sim Xabanisa are joined by Scarra Ntubeni for big calls, brutal honesty, and URC playoff smoke. š©ļø Stormers: Make or Breakš European Finals: Why They Still MatteršØ Damian Willemse Banned ā Fair or Farce?šø Bok Ticket Bloodbath š¬ Drop us your thoughts ā We're watching ššŗ Watch the show: youtube.com/ThatRugbyUnionšø Insta: @thatrugbyunionš¦ X: @ThatRugbyUnion #URC #Springboks #ThatRugbyUnionShow #Stormers #RugbyUnfiltered #Stormers #DamianWillemse #ScarraNtubeni #RugbyUnfiltered #ChallengeCupFinal #ChampionsCupFinal #BokTickets #XolaNtshinga #SimXabanisa #RugbyTalk | |||
| Ray Mordt on Eden Park, Flour Bombs & Saveaās 100th | That Rugby Union Show | 05 Sep 2025 | 00:55:58 | |
This week we go deep on every angle of the game:
šļø Special guest: Ray Mordt š Weekly chaos, sharp takes, and no fluff. | |||
| All Blacks Beat Boks at Eden Park | Wallabies Last-Minute Try | That Rugby Union Show | 07 Sep 2025 | 00:49:50 | |
This week on That Rugby Union Show: Eden Park Fortress ā The All Blacks extend their streak to 51 unbeaten at Eden Park with a 24ā17 win over the Springboks. Narawa and Jordan struck early, Tupaea sealed it, and Robertsonās men defended like demons. Kolisiās return wasnāt enough to break the Auckland curse. Wallabies vs Pumas Chaos ā Angus Bell crashes over in stoppage time to give Australia a dramatic 28ā24 win. Eddieās gamble to chase tries pays off, but Carreras kept Argentina in it until the very end. Championship Heat ā New Zealand lead the table on 10 points, Australia close behind on 9, with the Boks and Pumas stuck on 5 each. Next up: Wellington, where Erasmus hunts redemption. Currie Cup Fire ā Semi-final spots are on the line, and the rivalries are as brutal as the internationals. | |||
| Record All Blacks Defeat | Boks Rise, Wallabies Fall | That Rugby Union Show | 14 Sep 2025 | 01:14:15 | |
This week, the Rugby Championship turned upside down: Boks Smash ABs in WellingtonSouth Africa inflicted New Zealandās worst ever home defeat, storming to a 43ā10 win. Six tries, a second-half demolition, and a historic Springbok statement that left the All Blacks reeling. Pumas Edge WallabiesArgentina shocked Australia 28ā26 in Sydney. The Wallabies looked ready to close it out, but Carreras and the Pumas had other ideas, proving once again theyāre no oneās supporting act. Womenās World Cup ClasThe Black Ferns powered past South Africa 46ā17 in the quarterfinals. The Boks women impressed early, but New Zealandās pace and finishing secured their place in the semis. Championship HeatMomentum is green and gold. The Springboks have flipped the table, the All Blacks are in crisis mode, and Argentina remain dangerous outsiders. The Rugby Championship just got spicy. š New episodes drop every week.šļø Real rugby talk, no fluff. | |||
| Squeaky Bum Time: Boks Hunt the Title at Twickenfontein | Rugby Championship Decider Preview | 03 Oct 2025 | 00:50:39 | |
This weekend, itās squeaky bum time for every Bok fan from Bellville to Bloem. The Rugby Championship title hangs in the balance ā and all roads lead to Twickenfontein, where the Springboks face Argentina with everything on the line. Xola and Sim, no fluff ā just pure Bok brainpower and banter as they break down the final round. šæš¦ Boks on the Brink š¦š· Pumas Reload š³šæš¦šŗ Eden Park Fallout & Perth Decider š§® Championship Math
š„ In this episode:
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| THE AGE OF SASHA FM BEGINS | Bok Carnage in Durban & Eden Park Fallout | Post-Game Breakdown | 28 Sep 2025 | 00:55:00 | |
The dust has barely settled ā and the Springboks have left Durban smoking. In this post-game breakdown, we unpack everything that mattered from a massive weekend of rugby. šæš¦ Boks in Full Beast ModeSouth Africa smashed Argentina 67ā30, turning a tight first half into a second-half bloodbath. š Global Fallout
š§ What Weāre Breaking Down
No fluff. No filters. Just raw Bok analysis and weekend chaos. | |||
| NAAS BOTHA: Springboks Rise as All Blacks Fall | Rugby Crisis & The Future of the Game | 28 Sep 2025 | 01:19:38 | |
Springbok legend Naas Botha joins That Rugby Union Show to unpack the Boksā epic win over New Zealand ā and what it really means for world rugby. Is this the end of All Blacks dominance⦠or just a team in transition? In this episode:šæš¦ Springboksā new game plan ā why itās working.š³šæ All Blacks in crisis? Naas tells it straight.š° Rugbyās broken system ā why the sport must be run like a billion-dollar business.š The global season debate ā will it ever happen?š„ Flyhalf battle: Manie vs Pollard vs the new kids.š¦š· Argentina threat in Durban ā how the Boks should approach it.š©ā𦰠Womenās Rugby World Cup Final: England v Canada. Naas pulls no punches. If you want straight talk on the Springboks, the All Blacks, and the future of rugby ā this is essential listening. š | |||
| Irelandās Biggest Challenge: 15 Springboks | That Rugby Union Show | 22 Nov 2025 | 00:51:53 | |
Welcome back to That Rugby Union Show ā and tonight weāre deep-diving into the chaos that is South African rugbyās new secret weapon:the 15th man⦠whoās actually already off the field.Yes, the Boks are back in action against Ireland ā and after last weekās ā14 men is enoughā masterclass, Xola and Sim unpack whether South Africa genuinely plays better when someoneās in the changeroom drinking Guinness.In this episode:š„ The big one ā Boks vs Ireland: where the game will be wonš„ Why South Africaās depth is so absurd it breaks World Rugbyās ranking systemš„ Tactical matchups: Irish structure vs Bok violenceš„ The psychological edge: why Ireland look like theyāre seeing ghostsš„ Are we witnessing a new era where the āsent-offā Bok becomes the designated beer-holder?š„ Plus: viewer predictions, hot takes, and the usual straight talk you wonāt hear on TVAnd yes, weāll be addressing the international meltdown over the ā14-man Springbok rankingā⦠including why the AI supercomputer laughed when asked if Ireland could win.š Drop your score predictions.š Whoās your ā15th manā? (Actual player or the guy with the Guinness.)That Rugby Union ShowHosted by Xola Ntshinga & Sim XabanisaThe only rugby show where the analysis hits as hard as a Bok cleanout. | |||
| LE AFTERMATH | Boks Vs France Post Game | That Rugby Union Show | 09 Nov 2025 | 01:10:38 | |
The Springboks got it done in Paris ā and Xola Ntshinga & Sim Xabanisa break down everything from an emotional, physical, beautifully ugly South Africa vs France showdown. This episode covers:
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| Boks Go Back-to-Back š ā Springboks Edge Pumas to Retain the Rugby Championship | 07 Nov 2025 | 01:02:43 | |
South Africa have done it again. The Springboks retained the Rugby Championship after a nail-biting 29ā27 win over Argentina at Twickenham, clinching the title on points difference. Both the Boks and All Blacks finished on 19 log points, but Rassieās men held their superior +57 margin to keep the crown. Xola and Sim break down every moment from Twickenfontein ā no guests, just straight Bok analysis and sharp rugby talk. šæš¦ Back-to-Back Kings š¦š· Pumas Bring the Fight š³šæ All Blacks Fall Just Short š§ In this episode:
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| Le Grudge: Bokke vs France ā Centennial Showdown | 07 Nov 2025 | 01:04:07 | |
Xola Ntshinga and Sim Xabanisa break down a massive Test week as the Springboks take on France in Paris ā loaded with history, emotion and two years of simmering tension. With Siya Kolisiās 100th Test and Rassie Erasmusā 50th, the stakes couldnāt be higher. In this episode:
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| Rugbyās New Dawn: SANZAARās 2026 Plan and Pat Lambie on the Gameās Future | 17 Oct 2025 | 01:04:11 | |
Rugby is entering a new era. Xola Ntshinga and Sim Xabanisa unpack SANZAARās bold 2026ā2030 plan ā the pause of The Rugby Championship, the rise of the Nations Cup, and the move toward a global season. Pat Lambie joins the show to reflect on the changes, player safety, and the next evolution of the game. From concussion awareness to the All Blacksā massive 2026 tour, this episode dives deep into rugbyās biggest transformation in decades. š§ Listen now and follow āThat Rugby Union Showā for new episodes every week. | |||
| AndrƩ Pretorius: The Game Within the Game | 10 Oct 2025 | 00:47:24 | |
In this episode, Xola Ntshinga speaks with former Springbok flyhalf AndrĆ© Pretorius, who now coaches in Japanās League One. Pretorius reflects on the toughest lesson of his career ā the Test he says he ālost for South Africaā ā and how that moment shaped his philosophy as a coach. He shares rare insight into Jake Whiteās influence, the importance of discomfort in elite rugby, and the emotional intelligence required to coach across cultures. From breaking language barriers to building trust in Japanās rigid rugby system, Pretorius reveals how simplicity and empathy can unlock performance. The discussion turns to South African rugby ā the Lionsā ongoing struggles, the Currie Cupās brutal schooling, and the question of leadership in a divided system. Honest, humble, and sharp ā this is rugby insight from a man whoās lived both sides of the game. Follow That Rugby Union Show for weekly rugby conversations that go deeper than the scoreline. | |||