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REMIX: Why we over-shop and compulsively acquire, and how to stop, with Dr Jan Eppingstall
This episode, I’ve pulled together the best mental health advice from every guest I spoke to over the past year - academics, therapists, organisers, and people with lived experience. Each of them shared a personal habit or practice that genuinely helps them cope or keep on top of their wellbeing, and I add a couple of my own strategies too.
Whether you’re navigating hoarding, supporting someone who is, or just looking for affordable ways to protect your own mental health, stick around for a mix of practical, honest tips to try for yourself.
Special Episode Format: Compilation of Guest Advice
Throughout the year, every guest was asked about habits or practices supporting their mental health.
Guest Contributions: Mental Health Habits and Practices
Harriet Impey (Episode 172)
Mindfulness and meditation, especially mindful self-compassion (inspired by Kristin Neff).
Practical examples: Being present, guided meditation, practicing non-attachment, and self-reflection on letting go of unhelpful arguments.
Dr Jan Eppingstall (Episodes 174 & 204)
Practicing gratitude to counterbalance negativity bias.
Unsubscribing from unwanted emails to reduce anxiety and overwhelm.
Interacting with pets for grounding and emotional well-being - petting animals as a stress reliever.
Visiting places where animals are accessible (e.g., city farms, pet shops, animal cafes).
Jasmine Sleigh (Episode 175)
Importance of good sleep for mental health.
Value of pleasurable activities like reading, and the paradox of sometimes resisting enjoyable activities (self-sabotage).
Reflection on how engaging in enjoyable pastimes is essential even when it's difficult to get started.
Sam (Episode 178)
Writing things down: Keeping lists of achievements and things to be grateful for, even small joys.
Acknowledging how gratitude doesn’t have to be grand - simple moments count.
Exercise, particularly running, or any activity that gets you outside of your current headspace (could be walking, volunteering, etc.).
The role of support from others to prompt new perspectives or activities.
Dr. Victoria Ruby-Granger (Episode 179)
Self-awareness and accepting what works for you, rather than trying to fit yourself to methods that don’t suit.
Emphasis on letting go of approaches that don’t align with your own needs, and being open to alternative strategies.
Carrie Lagerstedt (Episode 183)
Moral neutrality: Separating self-worth from issues like executive dysfunction, lateness, and messiness.
Reframing these traits as value-neutral rather than personal failings, helping to build self-esteem.
That Hoarder
Creative self-expression: Resentful journaling, collage, and visual arts—done primarily for personal expression, not for others’ approval.
Permission for creative works to be imperfect and focused on process over outcome.
Nature connection: Getting outside, paying attention to natural details (flowers, leaves, colours, wildlife), and practicing mindful observation to foster grounding and perspective.
Importance of self-compassion, giving oneself credit for small achievements (especially with meditation or walks).
Allowing yourself pleasurable, nurturing, or healing activities without guilt.
Noticing the bigger world and natural cycles as a counter to internal struggles.
Encouragement for listeners to reflect on which practices resonate and to share their own tips.
Hoarding disorder can feel deeply isolating, and finding genuine connection isn’t always straightforward.
In this episode, I talk about building community - both through hoarding-specific peer groups, online spaces, as well as simply nurturing friendships outside the home.
I share practical ways to reconnect, set boundaries, and remind yourself that you deserve care and companionship, whatever your home looks like.
The Relationship Between Hoarding and Isolation
How hoarding and isolation often accompany each other
Feelings of shame and concern about being misunderstood
Secrecy around hoarding, even from friends
Impact of loneliness on motivation and self-worth
The fundamental human need for connection
Finding Community: Hoarding-Specific Support
Benefits of speaking with others who “get” hoarding
Relief and authenticity in hoarding-focused communities
Misunderstandings and stigma around hoarding in general society
Shared language and understanding in dedicated groups
Types of Hoarding Communities
Peer support groups (both for people who hoard and for their loved ones)
Differences between in-person and online groups
Dehoarding accountability Zoom groups run by the host
Therapy groups led by professionals
Online forums, social media groups, and subreddits
Choosing a Support Group and Overcoming Barriers
The process of finding the right group for your needs
Not all groups will fit; trial and error is normal
Common barriers: fear of judgment, privacy concerns, and feeling overwhelmed
Exploring online versus in-person options based on comfort and access
Managing triggers and emotional challenges when joining a group
Broadening Community Beyond Hoarding
Importance of connection outside of the hoarding context
How hoarding can lead to progressive social isolation
Ways to set boundaries while still building relationships
Alternative Sources of Community & Connection
Joining hobby or interest-based groups (gardening, book clubs, crafts, etc.)
Attending classes and workshops (in-person or online)
Volunteering for shared causes and the benefits it offers
Engaging in outdoor activity groups for physical and mental health
Involvement in faith communities (acknowledging varied experiences)
Nurturing and Rekindling Friendships
The value of maintaining and nurturing friendships
Strategies for reconnecting with old friends (acknowledging awkwardness)
Personal anecdotes demonstrating successful reconnection
Maintaining and Deepening Existing Friendships
Creative ways of keeping in touch (memes, postcards, regular outings)
Showing care and interest without inviting people into your home
Importance of honesty about personal limitations
Navigating difficult moments with friends through gentle outreach
Building New Friendships
The importance of patience and consistent small efforts
Transitioning from casual acquaintance to meaningful connection
Reciprocity and mutual engagement as key to growing relationships
Natural pace of friendship development
The Value of Self-Compassion
Being a good friend to yourself while seeking social connections
Avoiding self-blame and catastrophic thinking
Recognising your own worth despite challenges related to hoarding
Taking Small Steps Toward Connection
Encouragement to take actionable, manageable steps to build community
Celebrating small efforts toward greater connection
Realistic expectations about gradual progress
Suggestions for relevant previous podcast episodes on loneliness, accountability, and community
Getting on top of hoarding disorder isn’t about powering through in one big go. It’s all about slowing down, pacing ourselves, and making sure our approach is actually sustainable, both for our bodies and our minds.
In this episode, I talk honestly about the risks of burnout and emotional overload when we try to rush the process, and why giving ourselves permission to work in small, manageable steps is key.
I’ll share practical ways to set our own pace, spot the warning signs of pushing too hard, and celebrate the progress we make - even when it’s slower than we’d like.
The Nature of Recovery from Hoarding Disorder
Recovery isn’t a race or a sprint
Pressure to fix things quickly—internal and external
On this episode, I’m joined by Dr Jan Eppingstall to unpack how our possessions connect with our sense of identity and self-concept, and why letting go can feel so threatening for those of us who hoard.
We talk through how objects hold meaning, memories, and dreams for the future, and what it looks like to build a stronger sense of self without clinging to things.
If you’ve ever felt like discarding something meant losing a part of yourself, you definitely want to listen to this one. We break down exactly why that fear happens and where to start.
A plant pot associated with negative experiences.
Discussion of emotional and aesthetic reasons for keeping vs. discarding.
Objects “glowering" at us.
Identity and Self-Concept in Hoarding
Definition of identity and self-concept.
Possessions and Sense of Identity
The psychological process of possessions intertwining with identity.
How this differs from typical sentimental attachment.
Retention itself (rather than use or display) as a meaning-making act in hoarding.
The difference between identity (roles, characteristics, life story) and self-concept (beliefs about self, worth, and abilities).
Typical patterns seen in people with hoarding disorder: fragmented identity, externalised identity via objects.
Psychological Fusion Between Identity and Possessions
The concept of "identity objects" — how discarding items feels like losing part of oneself.
Objects as external proof and storage for identity, memory, and meaning.
Safety of objects over human relationships.
The cycle of validation and shame in hoarding.
Pathways to Possession-Identity Fusion
Childhood experiences and boundary violations leading to control needs.
Identity confusion and external markers for self-definition.
Psychological ownership: objects as self-extension.
Functions of retained objects—proof of past, present, and future self.
Anthropomorphism and obligations to objects.
Executive function challenges: objects as external memory aids.
Perfectionism and fantasy identity protection.
Influence of cultural materialism and marketing.
The Fear of Losing Identity When Discarding Objects
"Throwing away part of myself."
Three psychological routes for ownership: control, intimate knowledge, and personal investment.
The role of control and avoidance of uncertainty.
The painful admission of poor judgment (e.g., unworn clothing) when discarding.
Possessions as Identity Markers
Retaining items from past roles (retired teachers, old job materials).
Holding onto objects representing hopes for future identity.
Objects as evidence for important life chapters, relationships, or personal history.
Psychological needs these objects serve and when that becomes problematic.
Books as Proof of Intellectual Identity
Discussion of books held as evidence of being intellectual, regardless of actual reading.
Exploration of how objects can become substitutes for action and risk.
Therapeutic approach to shifting identity building from possession to action.
Community and Connection in the Hoarding Journey
The loneliness and isolation frequently felt by people who hoard.
The importance of community, connection, and peer support, including podcast listeners and accountability sessions.
Effects of increased openness and connection on identity.
Identity Shifts During Dehoarding and Recovery
Changes in identity during the process of recovery and letting go.
Building new narratives — sometimes research or recovery itself becomes an identity.
Increased connection and belonging through shared experience and vulnerability.
Maintaining Identity Without Excessive Possession
Strategies for building identity through actions, creativity, and lived experience.
Selecting representative or truly meaningful items rather than keeping everything.
Observing how "non-hoarding" individuals make decisions about sentimental items.
Discomfort and growth opportunities in sharing one's journey while still in progress.
The value of authenticity and vulnerability.
First Steps for Listeners Fearing Loss of Self Through Discarding
Acknowledging that fear is rational and understandable.
Suggesting mindful observation of attachment thoughts.
Testing beliefs by gentle action, e.g., creative tasks with what is already available.
Finding supportive people for accountability and encouragement.
Reflective work on personal values — building identity from the inside.
Reassurance that identity predates possessions and is not dependent on them.
Objects as scaffolding rather than the core of one’s identity.
Encouragement to trust oneself and to start building stability from within.
If you’re facing the frustration of knowing where your things belong but just can’t access your shelves or cupboards because there’s too much in the way, this episode is for you. I break down why piling things up with good intentions doesn’t actually solve anything, why decluttering comes before organising, and share honest strategies for making actual progress when your home feels overwhelming.
Barriers to Organising Due to Inaccessible Shelves
E.g. wanting to keep clothes but can’t access the wardrobe
Emotional impact: frustration and the cycle of blocked organisation
Layers and spread of clutter that block storage areas
The Vicious Cycle of Clutter and Organisation
How inaccessible shelves lead to piles that further compound the problem
The emotional fallout: self-blame and shame
Reframing the struggle as a symptom of hoarding disorder’s progression, not personal failure
Coping Strategies & Common Pitfalls
Temporary solutions (bags/boxes for items meant for inaccessible areas) and associated risks (forgetting what’s inside)
The “out of sight, out of mind” issue
Overestimating the capacity of designated spaces for stored items
Imperfect Progress and Starting Where You Are
Importance of starting without perfect access or planning
Emotional and practical aspects of starting with what’s immediately available
The danger of over-planning and the value of taking imperfect action
Building Momentum: Small Steps and Accessibility
Clearing even small spaces leads to broader clearing efforts
How minor improvements enable further progress
Core Issue: Volume Over Organisation
Identifying excessive possessions as the root problem, not lack of organisation
Emphasis that organising without decluttering only rearranges clutter
Professional advice: dehoarding and decluttering must come before organising
The Trap of Reorganisation Without Decluttering
The concept of “churn”—moving items around versus actual removal
How adding more storage increases clutter, not solves it
Real progress comes from discarding items and opening spaces
Regaining Access and Realistic Organisation
Regaining access to storage areas requires reducing overall volume
Setting realistic expectations for what storage spaces can hold
Organising solutions are secondary to decluttering
Practical Strategies for Decluttering
Picking a strategic spot or simply starting wherever you are
Focusing efforts (entrances, exits, specific goals, categories)
Opening neglected bags/boxes and revealing new priorities
Breaking down overwhelming tasks and celebrating small wins
Safety Considerations
Avoiding dangerous physical manoeuvres to reach blocked areas
Importance of asking for help and maintaining physical safety
Mindset and Momentum
Recognising and celebrating progress, no matter the size
Positive reinforcement to build motivation for ongoing decluttering
The Hard Truth: Volume Reduction is Essential
Acknowledging that reaching shelves requires lowering the overall volume
Practical details (where to put items temporarily) less important than reducing quantity
In this episode, I talk about the idea of "acting as if" - taking action before you fully believe you can, and using that to chip away at compulsive hoarding behaviours.
I share stories from my own life, including how channelling others’ confidence helped me move through paralysing shyness, and how small steps can help shift thinking around possessions and habits.
It’s all about behaving your way to progress, even when your feelings haven’t caught up yet. Listen in to find out more, including how to go about it without burning out or being retraumatised.
Introduction to "Acting As If"
Explanation of the “acting as if” concept: taking action before you truly believe in it
Shyness in childhood, learning to appreciate autumn)
Psychological Basis for "Acting As If"
Theory that action creates motivation
Contrast with waiting for motivation or readiness
Clarification: distinction from toxic positivity
Application to Hoarding Disorder
Connection between repeated cycles and hoarding behaviour
How new actions create evidence and lead to belief changes
Importance of breaking cycles of hoarding through behaviour change
Practical Strategies for Acting As If
Imagining how another person (someone without hoarding disorder) would act
Acting as if items are already gone to help with psychological closure
Acting as if you trust the process or expert advice
Acting as if you deserve a nicer home and greater self-worth
Acting as if letting go of items won’t be as painful as feared
Acting as if you can tolerate discomfort
Common Obstacles and Challenges
Feeling like a fraud or being inauthentic
New actions feeling unnatural
Comparison to physiotherapy exercises: discomfort as a sign of change
Intensification of difficult feelings and memories
Panic, grief, anger, fear
Navigating emotional responses and learning from them
Separating intense emotions from actual danger
Distinguishing between productive discomfort and harmful pushing
Productive discomfort vs. burnout or retraumatisation
Importance of support and learning moderation
Slipping up after success with “acting as if”
Giving yourself permission to start again
Using setbacks as data, not failure
Benefits of Acting As If
Reduction of analysis paralysis and cognitive overload
Achieving small wins and momentum
Disproving fears through new evidence
Gradual adaptation of beliefs and feelings to new behaviours
Brain’s capacity to notice new patterns and adapt
Tips and Encouragement for Trying “Acting As If”
Suggests listeners identify one area to test acting as if
Reassurance that belief is not required to begin
Details about the Chirp Your Home decluttering course
I am full of germs and even huskier than usual, so this week, enjoy this fascinating conversation with Dr Jan Eppingstall, where we talk about hoarding disorder vs Diogenes syndrome vs squalor vs disposophobia vs syllogomania vs Plyushkin Syndrome vs Havisham Syndrome!
Many of us hoard because we believe we’re making ourselves ready for anything life throws at us, but the reality is that no amount of “just in case” clutter can truly prepare us for every scenario.
In this episode, I break down the myth of preparedness, explore how hoarding can actually make us less equipped for real emergencies, and talk about why resourcefulness matters much more than having piles of stuff.
The Myth of Being Prepared for Every Eventuality
Exploration of the comforting idea behind keeping possessions to be “ready” for anything.
Recognition that life is unpredictable and impossible to fully prepare for.
Infinite Possibilities vs. Realities
Discussion of how each item is kept for imagined infinite scenarios.
The logical impossibility of keeping items for every scenario (need for infinite space and money).
Emotional and anxiety-driven decision-making despite logical understanding.
Specificity of Items and Mismatched Preparation
Example of items with specific uses that don’t match actual needs when situations arise.
The paradox of saving more items not solving the mismatch issue.
Emphasis that saving more increases clutter but doesn’t increase preparedness.
Sensible Preparation vs. Over-Preparation
Differentiation between healthy, reasonable preparation (e.g., first aid kit) and hoarding excess.
The importance of context when deciding what to keep.
The Role of Resourcefulness
Real-life anecdotes (tampon as nosebleed fix, ballpoint pen tracheotomy) illustrating resourcefulness over mere possession.
Recognition of creativity and adaptability as coping strategies.
Importance of improvisation and problem-solving in handling emergencies.
Asking for Help and Community Support
Discussion of the difficulty and value in seeking help from others.
Mention of the podcast’s accountability sessions as a supportive community resource.
Irony of Over-Preparedness: How Hoarding Reduces Actual Preparedness
Analysis of how clutter inhibits effective response to emergencies (e.g., inability to locate items, blocked exits).
Emotional and mental burden caused by excessive possessions.
Emotional Drivers of Hoarding and Over-Preparedness
Exploration of the underlying anxieties and emotional needs that drive hoarding.
Misconception that acquiring more will eventually soothe anxiety.
Discussion about the lack of true satisfaction or security from excessive possessions.
The Illusion of Vindication
Occasional moments when a hoarded item becomes useful, creating a sense of justification.
Cost-benefit analysis: space, annoyance, energy, and opportunity cost versus occasional convenience.
Distinguishing Between Convenience and Necessity
Recognition that the vast majority of saved items are never useful.
Importance of resourcefulness and adaptability over keeping every possible item.
Everyday Adaptation and Coping
Examples of daily improvisation and making do (e.g., using coins as screwdrivers, managing without umbrellas).
Emphasis on resilience and ability to cope with small inconveniences.
The Trap of Occasional Justification
Analogy to gambling: occasional “wins” reinforce maladaptive habits.
Warning against letting rare vindications justify continued hoarding.
Embracing “Good Enough” and Trusting Future Capabilities
Acceptance that total preparedness is impossible.
Focus on nourishment, present needs, and trusting future resilience and creativity.
The freeing power of letting go of the need for complete preparedness.
True security and preparedness come from adaptability and trust, not material accumulation.
This week, let's revisit a brilliant conversation I had with money coach Paige Pritchard all about overspending, compulsive shopping, and resisting the urge to binge buy.
Reflecting on the journey from my terrified first recording to episode 200, I am talking today how speaking out brought connection, understanding, and a community I never thought possible. This episode is a letter to my past self, and it’s also to you. It’s honest about what’s changed, what’s still hard, and the unexpected power of not being alone.
If you’re struggling too, know you’re part of something bigger here.
Letter to Episode One Self
Emotional state during the podcast's inception (fear, isolation, shame)
Misconceptions about being alone with hoarding disorder
The unexpected journey and growth started by publishing the first episode
Early Understanding of Hoarding Disorder
Lack of knowledge about hoarding at the start
Pain of isolation and confusion
Limited exposure to terminology, research, and causes
Learning and Personal Growth Through the Podcast
Gained understanding about the science and psychology of hoarding
Insight into links with trauma, grief, ADHD, autism, and anxiety
Struggles and gradual improvements in managing inner critic
Realities of Recovery
No “quick fix” for hoarding disorder; non-linear progress
Importance of learning
Learning to discuss hard issues before they are resolved
Building a Community
Realisation of not being alone — over 400,000 plays
Listeners’ responses and the impact of shared stories
The growth of a supportive community, accountability calls, and new friendships
Challenging Shame and Secrecy
Confronting and gradually reducing shame through connection
The belief that shame was deserved begins to change
Disclosure of hoarding disorder to three real-life people and their supportive reactions
Helping Others Through Honest Sharing
Helps others feel less alone
Listeners gain courage, understanding, and the will to seek help
Gained Wisdom & Tools
Increased confidence, self-trust, and knowledge
Action, however small, is key to progress
Understanding that worth is not tied to cleanliness or orderliness
Recognition that recovery is more than just decluttering
Accepting Ongoing Struggles
Open acknowledgment that challenges persist
Emphasis on wisdom and resilience, not just results
Evolution as a Podcaster
Recognition of the podcast’s impact on the host and the community
Gratitude for guests and listeners
Encouragement to continue the journey, highlighting non-linearity and hope
Hoarding is far more complicated than just clutter - there are layers upon layers, from the visible stacks of possessions to the hidden emotional weight, old identities, and tangled feelings of shame and secrecy.
In this episode, I talk through what these layers actually look like, why they make healing and recovery so tough, and how recognising them can help us start to move forward.
It’s about giving an honest look at how hoarding really is, and offering a bit of encouragement and understanding for anyone living with it.
Layers in Hoarding Disorder
Explanation of the concept of "layers"
Recognition of complexity in hoarding and recovery
Importance of understanding layers for self-awareness and change
Physical Layers of Stuff
Sorting belongings as an “archaeological dig”
Stories and histories attached to different layers of possessions
Practical observations about layers:
Top layer: Most recent or most-used items
Middle layers: Mixture of older and neglected items, representing different life periods
Bottom layers: Emotionally complex, broken, or “buried” items
Today I’m talking about how being intentional - basically doing things on purpose rather than on autopilot - can genuinely reshape how we deal with hoarding and our stuff.
I’ll share how intentionality helps us pause, make better decisions, and treat ourselves with more compassion, rather than reacting on impulse or out of habit.
Plus, I’ll look at how setting small boundaries and choosing to rest on purpose can all be important aspects of real, lasting change.
The transformative power of intentionality.
Setting the stage: How being intentional relates to what we keep, acquire, or discard.
What is Intentionality and Why Does it Matter?
Definition: Acting with purpose, consciousness, and awareness.
Impact on self-perception: How intentional actions can improve self-esteem and self-compassion.
Increasing the distance between stimulus and response.
Agency and empowerment: Transition from reactive to deliberate decision-making.
Examples (nature walks, acquiring possessions): Using intentionality to shape experiences and choices.
Intentionality vs. Reactivity in Hoarding-Related Decisions
Reactive behaviours: Impulse acquisitions and the resulting feelings of regret.
Intentional decision-making process: Steps and self-questioning (e.g., Do I need this? Does this fit my values?).
Intentionality in Dehoarding
Emotional barriers: Overwhelm, panic, and high-stakes feelings in hoarding/dehoarding.
The value of starting small: Engaging in micro-decisions with thoughtfulness.
Shifting mindset: Moving from resentment (“I have to") to choice ("I choose to”).
Language and self-talk: The impact of words on perception and action.
Boundaries: Establishing and maintaining intentional rules for oneself (e.g., only buying clothing in your current size).
Intentional Habits, Rituals, and Boundaries
Creating structure: Using rituals (tea, meditation, rewards) to make dehoarding sessions purposeful.
Habitual vs. intentional choices: Challenging default behaviors (e.g., always keeping old birthday cards).
Self-reflection: Using intentionality to question long-standing personal rules.
Intentional Inaction: Choosing Not to Act
Recognising when rest is necessary: The difference between intentional rest and giving up.
Personal example: Planning for difficult days by intentionally not scheduling activities.
Self-compassion: Allowing yourself to rest without self-judgment.
Rest, Self-Care, and Challenging Productivity Myths
Importance of rest in the decluttering process.
Distinguishing between caring rest and avoidance.
Encouraging self-compassion and recognising limits.
Navigating Grey Areas in Intentionality
The challenge of self-deception: When “intentionality” masks hoarding justifications.
Tools for discernment: Grounded vs. anxiety-driven decisions.
Value alignment: Considering whether choices support personal values and goals.
Managing Setbacks and Self-Compassion
Responding to slip-ups: Viewing mistakes as data, not failure.
Problem-solving: Analysing triggers and adjusting future behaviour.
Avoiding all-or-nothing thinking: Reframing setbacks and maintaining momentum.
Building an Intentionality Practice
The ongoing nature of intentionality: It’s a skill developed over time.
Practical applications: Small daily decisions (e.g., washing dishes immediately).
Mindfulness: Checking in with thoughts, emotions, and physical sensations.
Encouragement: Be patient with yourself - progress, not perfection.
Today I’m talking about what it really takes to stick to our dehoarding decisions - how to resist urges, tolerate discomfort, and actually follow through, even when it’s tough. I’ll share why holding our nerve matters, what gets in the way, and some strategies to help avoid falling back into old patterns. Plus, there’s a practical top tip at the end to help boost your self-care this month.
Holding Our Nerve
Explanation of the gap between deciding to act and actually taking action when dehoarding
Definition in Hoarding Context
Persistence in sticking to healthy, productive decisions
Managing urges to revert to hoarding behaviours
Commitment to goals for sustainable progress
Reference to Amelia Earhart’s quote about decision-making and tenacity
“Paper tigers” explanation – things we fear that seem big but aren’t as powerful as they appear
This episode, I’m joined by Dr Jan Eppingstall to talk about why so many of us who hoard struggle to trust our future selves to cope without keeping everything “just in case.”
We get into how doubts about our own resourcefulness and fears about scarcity keep us stuck, and share practical ways to build confidence in our ability to handle whatever comes next.
If you’ve ever worried you won’t manage without every single spare part or backup item, this conversation’s for you.
Trusting Our Future Selves to Be Resourceful
The psychological struggle of believing in one’s ability to cope without keeping everything
Personal anecdotes from the host about surprise resourcefulness
Exploration of cognitive distortions surrounding trust in future adaptability
Resourcefulness in Hoarding Behaviour
Contradiction: Resourceful justifications for keeping items vs. fear of not being resourceful if they’re discarded
The role of loss aversion and catastrophic scarcity thinking
Imagining multiple uses for broken items versus inability to visualise coping without them
The ‘Just in Case’ Myth
Reading and analysis of Ru Kotryna’s Instagram post on ‘just in case’ keeping
Discussion of how this reflects distrust in future self
Emotional impacts: fear of change, sufficiency, and facing the future without backup
How Distrust in Future Selves Manifests in Hoarding
‘Insurance hoarding’ and duplicate/back-up keeping
Information hoarding for fear of forgetting needed details
Emotional insecurity and sense of powerlessness
Host’s personal examples (nature as a self-soothing tool and fear of its impermanence)
Navigating Ephemerality and Change
Conversation about the fleeting nature of things and the difficulty in accepting impermanence
Reflection on attempts to freeze time by hoarding
Behaviours and Thoughts Stemming from Lack of Self-Trust
Executive function issues (planning, organisation, working memory)
Trauma and past experiences of genuine scarcity
Shame and immediate anxiety-reduction through keeping
Avoidance and ‘comfort objects’ as safety strategies
REMIX: Executive dysfunction and hoarding disorder with Dr Jan Eppingstall
29 Aug 2025
01:40:52
I really hope to be back with new episodes for you next week but, in the meantime, enjoy this incredible conversation with Dr Jan Eppingstall all about executive function, executive dysfunction, and hoarding.
REMIX: 23 dehoarding tasks you can get done in a weekend
22 Aug 2025
00:49:16
Today, as we go into the weekend (and it's a long weekend here in the UK), get some ideas for weekend-shaped dehoarding tasks you can really get your teeth into.
Today, we’re revisiting this episode with the inimitable Dr Jan Eppingstall about how grief, bereavement and loss are often knitted into hoarding disorder.
Why is it so hard to deal with uncertainty, and what does that have to do with hoarding? This week I’m joined by Dr Jan Eppingstall to unpack how our brains handle ambiguity, why fear of making mistakes can keep us stuck, and how intolerance of uncertainty feeds into hoarding behaviours. We break down practical ways to build up your tolerance for not knowing and share some strategies that might actually make a difference.
Uncertainty and Its Challenges
Definition and context of uncertainty
Evolutionary reasons for discomfort with uncertainty (Selfish Brain Theory)
Contrast between historical resource scarcity and modern abundance
Our minds’ outdated ways of managing uncertainty
Cognitive Closure
What is cognitive closure?
Difference between cognitive closure (psychological need for definite answers) and “closure” in pop culture (emotional resolution)
How it relates to need for certainty in present/future, not just past events
The creation of cognitive closure measurement scales by researchers
Factors influencing need for cognitive closure:
Personality traits: Conscientiousness, neuroticism (now called emotionality), openness to experience, extroversion
Trauma history and its effects on the nervous system
Neurodivergence (with emphasis on autism and “sticky thinking”)
Combination of personality, trauma, and neurodivergence
Intolerance of Uncertainty
Psychological definition of intolerance of uncertainty
Negative cognitive bias: How it affects perception and response
Manifestations in people experiencing uncertainty as distress
Its direct relevance to hoarding behaviours
The Link Between Hoarding Disorder and Intolerance of Uncertainty
Research findings: intolerance of uncertainty as a predictor of hoarding symptom severity
Usefulness in early intervention strategies
intolerance of uncertainty as a transdiagnostic factor (across anxiety, some depression, and other mental health conditions)
How heightened anxiety sensitivity in hoarding perpetuates avoidance
Experiential avoidance in hoarding (saving and acquiring behaviours)
Connection between maladaptive behaviours and intolerance of uncertainty
Fear of Making Mistakes and Perfectionism
Common fears of mistakes in hoarding (disposing, acquiring, putting things away)
Perfectionism’s role (fear of failure, not wasting)
All-or-nothing thinking and rigid decision-making rules
Paralysing effect of avoidance due to fear of mistakes
Not making a decision as a potential mistake itself
Interaction and reinforcement between perfectionism and intolerance of uncertainty
Comorbidity and Severity
Research on multiple diagnoses: More than half of psychiatric patients have more than one diagnosis
Diagnostic challenges and overlapping criteria
How comorbidity compounds issues: More symptoms and more complexity
Higher intolerance of uncertainty linked with more severe hoarding, especially when other conditions are present
Impact on treatment difficulty
intolerance of uncertainty’s Impact on Acquiring and Discarding Behaviours
How acquiring reduces fear of missing out and future needs
Difficulty discarding as protection against future regret
Shame around mistake-making
Common inner questions: Future use, responsibility, relationships
More complexity leading to more avoidance
Nuances in intolerance of uncertainty and Hoarding
Study on sub-factors of uncertainty:
Factor 1: Negative self-referential implications (linked to hoarding severity)
Factor 2: Perception of uncertainty as unfair (not linked)
Internal vs. external perspectives on uncertainty
Relevance of anxiety-driven self-criticism
Changing Relationship to Uncertainty: Curiosity and Reframing
Rilke’s quote on “loving the questions”
Transforming approach from fear to curiosity
Curiosity as a therapeutic tool
Creativity in imagining alternatives and solutions
Relevance of loss aversion and cognitive biases
Modern Life and Uncertainty Intolerance
Research linking increased use of technology (instant answers) to rising intolerance of uncertainty
Smartphone/information overload and decreased tolerance “muscle”
Relevance to hoarding (desire for backups, information saving)
Example: IMDb, screenshots, saving digital info
Treatment Strategies
Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) effects on intolerance of uncertainty in anxiety
Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and exposure-based methods: Pros and cons
Importance of a therapist experienced in error-related distress and uncertainty
Key skills: Observing distress, sitting with uncomfortable feelings, gradual exposure
Recognising individual differences and seeking appropriate support
Embracing Mistakes and Humanity
Learning from therapist/client anecdotes
Cultural expectations around perfectionism vs. real human messiness
How mistakes can be positive or even entertaining
Letting go of the need for perfection
The Four Cs for Managing Uncertainty
From Elizabeth Weingarten: Curiosity, Conversation, Community, Commitment
How to foster each:
Curiosity: Approach with questions and exploration
Conversation: Discuss uncertainties with trusted people
Community: Build social support
Commitment: Dedication to exploring questions and knowing when to let go
Links
Hillman, S. R. HOARDING DISORDER AND Intolerance of Uncertainty, Anxiety Sensitivity and Distress Tolerance in Hoarding Disorder Compared to OCD and Healthy Controls - Shemariah R. Hillman; Claire L. Lomax; Nadeen Khaleel; Theresa R. Smith; James D. Gregory
Baldwin, P. A Multimethod Examination of Vulnerability in Hoarding, UNSW Sydney, 2016. https://doi.org/10.26190/UNSWORKS/19156
Castriotta, N.; Dozier, M. E.; Taylor, C. T.; Mayes, T.; Ayers, C. R. Intolerance of Uncertainty in Hoarding Disorder. Journal of Obsessive-Compulsive and Related Disorders 2019, 21, 97–101. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jocrd.2018.11.005
Today, let's revisit this episode with 31 things you can dehoard today if you're stuck and don't know where to start. You can find the full episode transcript and show notes here.
#194 Transformation and comfort do not live in the same house: rethinking comfort zones, familiarity, and change
Transformation and comfort rarely go hand in hand, especially when it comes to overcoming compulsive hoarding.
In this episode, I talk honestly about why making real change means facing discomfort, based on a quote from Healing Justice London that “transformation and comfort do not live in the same house”.
I challenge us to identify the difference between familiarity and comfort, and share practical ways to push through those tough moments - because growth comes from getting a bit uncomfortable.
If you’re tired of mistaking chaos for comfort, this one’s for you.
“Transformation and comfort do not live in the same house” (Healing Justice London)
The universal truth behind the idea
The necessity of discomfort for real transformation
Discomfort Versus Comfort in the Hoarding Context
Familiarity as a source of “comfort” for those who hoard
Risks of equating familiarity with true comfort
The need for change and its inherent discomfort
Examples of positive outcomes after embracing discomfort
The Reality of Discomfort in Dehoarding
Emotional and physical challenges of dehoarding
Potential for overwhelming feelings and anxiety
Catastrophising and perfectionism surrounding decision-making
Emotional toll of letting go and possible identity implications
Acknowledgement that discomfort does not mean failure
Familiarity Versus Authentic Comfort
Distinction between feeling comfortable and something being familiar
The false sense of control and security provided by clutter
The actual consequences of living in a hoarded home:
Physical hazards (tripping, blocked access, risk in emergencies)
Social isolation and shame
Lack of practical comfort (e.g., not sleeping in one’s own bed)
The hidden, ongoing “slow burn” of stress and discomfort
Motivation and Community
Importance of recognising the true discomfort of living with hoarding
Community connections via the podcast and accountability Zoom sessions
Methods to share resources and reduce isolation
Reframing Discomfort as Growth
Viewing discomfort as a sign of progress rather than a warning
The parallel discomforts of both dehoarding and continuing to hoard
Making conscious choices between competing difficulties
Strategies for Managing Discomfort
Taking small, manageable steps to build resilience
Being gentle and compassionate with oneself during the process
Reaching out for support (friends, family, therapist, peer groups)
The use and benefit of accountability sessions
The Broader Benefits of Transformation
Improved physical space and wellbeing
Increased self-confidence and pride
Better relationships and decreased shame
Regaining practical functionality and freedom at home
Enhanced overall quality of life
Practical Suggestions and Further Resources
Trying a small, uncomfortable but positive task today
References to previous episodes for deeper exploration:
Sitting with discomfort and distress tolerance (Episode 49)
Building resilience (Episode 70 with Dr. Jan Eppingstall)
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#193 Laziness is a myth. Here's what's actually going on
In this episode, I unpack the myth of laziness and why it’s such a damaging label for people with hoarding disorder.
I’ll break down how blaming ourselves or others for being “lazy” ignores the real barriers - like overwhelm, poor mental health, executive dysfunction and more - and just piles on more shame.
Let’s get honest about what’s actually holding us back and why reframing this idea matters.
The Myth of Laziness in Relation to Hoarding
Revisiting a previous episode’s question: Are hoarders lazy?
Arguments against the idea (hoarded homes require more energy to live in, etc.)
The aversion to external intervention reveals deeper issues than laziness
Societal attitudes towards rest and productivity
Internalised and external accusations of laziness
The damaging effects: shame, isolation, distress
Understanding Hoarding as a Mental Health Issue
Hoarding as a coping method for difficult emotions
Judgments of laziness overlook the disorder’s complexity and nuance
Such labels add barriers to seeking help and reinforce stigma
Consequences of Labelling People who Hoard (or Ourselves) as Lazy
Shame and self-criticism deepen the problem
Laziness as a simplistic explanation that ignores underlying issues
Possible root causes: executive dysfunction, decision-making difficulties, emotional attachment to items, avoidance, depression, physical disability, etc.
The Harmful Cultural Narrative Around Laziness
Societal pressures to be constantly productive
Inaccuracies of the “we all have the same 24 hours” myth
Differences in time and capability due to systemic inequalities
Fear (of the process, of making wrong decisions, of consequences)
Fatigue, burnout, and mental health struggles
Being practically or emotionally stuck, lacking skills or knowledge
Societal Structures and Individual Blame
Blame placed on individuals ignores wider systemic and commercial influences
Industries profit from reinforcing personal inadequacy (beauty industry analogy, storage solutions)
The cycle of self-blame, shame, and attempts to “fix” via consumerism
Breaking the Cycle and Moving Forward
Recognising the myth of laziness enables real progress
Compassion, curiosity, and support as healthier responses
Encouragement for self-acceptance and seeking genuine solutions
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Today I’m talking about why letting yourself make mistakes - like running out of everyday items or doing things imperfectly - can actually help if you’re struggling with hoarding.
From challenging perfectionism to rethinking the fear of scarcity, I’ll share how embracing messiness can move us forward. Plus, I’ll offer practical ideas for easing those fears and making progress, one small, imperfect step at a time.
Announcement of new dates for Dehoarding Accountability Zoom Sessions.
Aimed at connecting people who hoard for conversation and simultaneous decluttering.
Details on how to get tickets and availability through several upcoming months.
The Value of Making Mistakes
Challenging the idea of perfection and fear of making mistakes.
Proposing the benefits of allowing oneself to:
Make more mistakes.
Run out of things occasionally.
Do things imperfectly or “half-arsed.”
Identifying how fear of mistakes and perfectionism can keep people stuck in hoarding behaviours.
Perfectionism and Fear of Scarcity
Perfectionism:
Fear of making the “wrong” decision leads to inaction or keeping everything.
Uncertainty about the future and anxiety about discarding items.
All-or-nothing thinking: If it can't be done perfectly, it’s not worth starting.
Personal reflection on the struggle with perfectionist tendencies.
Fear of Scarcity:
“Keep it just in case” mentality.
Stemming from past experiences of poverty or deprivation.
How personal history and upbringing foster scarcity-based behaviours.
Recognition that such fears can be irrational and still hold significant power.
How this fear leads to over-acquisition and reluctance to discard.
Addressing Perfectionism and Scarcity (Mindset Shifts)
Techniques to gently challenge perfectionism and scarcity fears.
Reframing mistakes as learning opportunities rather than failures.
Allowing for experimentation as a method of progress.
Embracing Mistakes as a Path Forward
Learning from mistakes as a source of growth and behaviour change.
Normalising occasional regrets over discarding or not acquiring something.
Comparing the cost of keeping everything versus the occasional “mistake.”
Observing emotional responses to mistakes as a way to learn and build decision-making confidence.
Encouragement to start with low-risk decisions and build up “dehoarding muscle” gradually.
Allowing Things to be Done Imperfectly
Encouragement to “do things badly” rather than waiting for perfect execution.
“Done is better than perfect” as a motivating principle.
The danger of all-or-nothing thinking leading to perpetual inaction.
Practical examples of doing small tasks imperfectly:
Tackling a small part of a larger problem (e.g., half a shelf).
Donating a partial bag of items.
Taking any step forward, even imperfect ones, counts as progress.
Allowing Yourself to Run Out of Things
Creative and resourceful solutions arise when supplies run low.
Examples from daily life (cooking, art journalling) where scarcity breeds creativity.
Differentiates between essential items and those where running out is an acceptable risk.
Suggestions for consciously assessing what’s truly necessary to keep in stock.
Experimental Mindset: Treating Dehoarding as Data Collection
Each decision - successful or not - provides valuable data for future choices.
Building confidence and capability for bigger, more challenging decluttering decisions over time.
Summary and Reinforcement of Key Points
Allow for imperfection, mistakes, and occasional scarcity.
Importance of starting with manageable steps and celebrating imperfect progress.
“Done is better than perfect”—taking action, however small, is crucial.
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Feeling defeated by dehoarding? I’ve been there, and I’m trying to get out of it, so in this episode I unpack what’s really behind that sense of hopelessness, breaking it down into manageable pieces, and sharing practical steps for moving forward - even when it all feels impossible. If you’re stuck, overwhelmed, or just too tired to start, you’re not alone. So let’s talk about some concrete things you can try.
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Feeling Defeated by Dehoarding
Host’s recent struggle with feeling defeated and hopeless
Common reasons for feeling defeated:
The enormity of the task
Personal life challenges and lack of time
Breaking down what “defeated” means for individuals
Self-Reflection and Identifying Obstacles
Using self-questioning techniques inspired by CBT
Listing and mapping out the causes of defeat on paper
Examples of personal obstacles:
Fatigue and physical health
Difficulty concentrating
Emotional overwhelm and stress
Shame and self-blame
Sense of impossibility
Breaking Down Barriers and Theme Identification
Categorising specific reasons for defeat
Writing actionable notes beside each challenge
Strategies for managing each obstacle:
Sleep hygiene and physical health maintenance
Working on self-compassion and challenging self-blame
Supporting concentration and mental health through self-care
Trial and error with productivity and to-do lists
Coping with Overwhelm
Recognising overwhelm as a rational but paralysing response
Techniques for reducing overwhelm:
Breaking tasks into tiny, actionable steps
Focusing on achievable mini-goals
Reframing "impossible" goals into manageable actions
Addressing Stress
How personal and environmental stress feeds into defeat
Practical strategies:
Tackling smaller, actionable tasks to relieve work/personal stress
Honest communication with peers, family, and colleagues about overwhelm
Accepting that some sources of stress require long-term coping rather than immediate solutions
Tackling the Sense of Impossibility
Recognising the vagueness of the feeling
Returning to self-analysis to clarify what specifically feels impossible
Using accumulated small improvements to chip away at the larger sense of defeat
Dealing with Overwhelm and Taking Breaks
Granting oneself intentional breaks to refresh perspective without guilt
Comparing dehoarding effort to the need for breaks in work life
Re-evaluating Plans and Expectations
Assessing the effectiveness of current strategies and goals
Adapting goals to current capacity and circumstances
Seeking external feedback and community support
The Importance of Support Systems
Nurturing and expanding support from peers, professionals, and loved ones
Recognising where additional support is needed
Celebrating Small Wins
The importance of acknowledging tiny victories
Suggestions for gentle self-recognition and reward
Today I’m looking at what happens if we forgive ourselves for past hoarding behaviours, why we maybe should, and how we can actually use that insight to make better choices and move forward. I talk honestly about the shame and guilt that keeps so many of us stuck. There’s some reflection on the roots of hoarding, the importance of self-compassion, and why hating ourselves into action just doesn’t work - plus a few practical suggestions for anyone trying to make a change, no matter where you’re starting from.
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Forgiving Ourselves but Doing Better
Exploration of guilt and shame related to hoarding and feeling overwhelmed.
Reflection on self-blame, regret, and paralysis it can cause.
Catholic upbringing: Confession, forgiveness, and the importance of genuine intent to change.
Recognition that hoarding often stems from trauma, loss, fear, anxiety, or neurodivergence.
Discussion of cause and effect - influences behind hoarding behavior.
Emphasis that hoarders are not lazy or bad people, but in a complex situation.
The cycle of self-judgement and the importance of self-compassion as an antidote to shame.
Practical advice: Treat oneself with the compassion you’d offer others, challenging negative self-talk.
How self-criticism can demotivate and hinder progress.
Comparison: Encouraging someone else is more effective than berating oneself.
Understanding mistakes, taking responsibility, and making amends when possible.
The importance of learning from past experiences and committing to doing better.
Practical Strategies for Moving Forward
Suggestions for emotional and action-oriented progress:
Journalling or talking to someone about feelings.
Looking back with compassion to identify patterns and triggers.
Start dehoarding by breaking tasks into small steps.
Avoiding perfectionism; celebrating any progress.
Reference to "towards and away moves" from episode 182 with Dr. Jan Eppingstall.
Identifying values and making choices that align with them.
Finding support from therapists, friends, family, support groups, or accountability sessions.
Acknowledgement that forgiving oneself is challenging but necessary for progress.
Emphasising persistence, compassion, and learning from mistakes.
Encouragement and Validation
Recognition of listeners at various stages of their journey - starting, struggling, making progress, or just listening for now.
Assurance that small steps count and everyone is doing their best.
This week I’m joined by Dr Jan Eppingstall to talk about scaffolding - what it means, how it helps with hoarding recovery, and why our needs for support change over time.
We break down practical, emotional, and motivational scaffolding, from therapy and peer support to self-made systems and the way we talk to ourselves.
If you’ve ever wondered how to find the right kind of help without feeling stuck with it forever, this is the episode for you.
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Explanation of Scaffolding and the Zone of Proximal Development
Definition of scaffolding from educational psychology.
Origins in Lev Vygotsky’s work: helping people accomplish tasks with support.
Relevance to hoarding and recovery.
Application of Scaffolding to Hoarding Recovery
Psychological, cognitive, and emotional elements in hoarding.
Physical and organisational skill deficits in people who hoard.
Differences and interplay between psychological barriers and practical skills.
Illustrating support levels: from high assistance to independence.
Personal examples demonstrating that support needs can resurface over time.
The Changing Nature of Scaffolding
Scaffolding shifts in form and amount as people progress or encounter setbacks.
Individualisation: What’s supportive for one may not be for another.
Types of Scaffolding for Hoarding Recovery
External supports: therapists, peers, coaches.
Direct instruction and physical assistance.
Environmental modifications.
Tools and resources.
Social encouragement and accountability.
Assessing current functioning.
Matching support to challenge level (not too easy, not too hard).
Gradually reducing support as independence grows.
Scaffolding for Neurodivergent Individuals
Adjustments for ADHD:
Shorter work periods, built-in breaks.
Accountability partners and visual reminders/checklists.
Adjustments for Autism:
Predictable routines.
Clear rules and decision trees.
Sensory-friendly environments.
Executive Function Challenges and Tailored Scaffolding
Strategies like breaking down decisions, using templates, "parking lot" systems for deferred decisions.
Recognising that executive function can be context-specific and fluctuate.
Importance of Emotional Scaffolding
Emotional regulation during dehoarding.
Need for self-soothing and distress-tolerance skills as support is reduced.
Informal and Internal Scaffolding
Peer support, self-talk, problem solving, reminders.
Adapting systems in the home as a supportive structure.
Habituation and Evolvement of Support Systems
Reminder fatigue and strategies to combat it (rotating formats, colours, locations).
The necessity for systems to evolve as needs and effectiveness change.
Mindset Shifts and Realistic Expectations
Acceptance that supports may need to be re-engaged during crises or setbacks.
Not viewing return to scaffolding as failure - progress and healing aren’t linear.
Testing assumptions about personal limitations.
Re-evaluating and Customising Support
Creating, testing, and modifying practical systems in the home with or without outside perspective.
Recognising the value of trying new strategies even if initial skepticism exists.
Decision-making can be a huge stumbling block when you’re trying to tackle hoarding, from cognitive overload to perfectionism and decision fatigue. In this episode, I unpack why making choices about our belongings feels so overwhelming, what can go wrong if we avoid it, and I share practical strategies to make the process more manageable. If you find yourself stuck in analysis paralysis or endlessly putting off decisions, this one’s for you.
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Introduction to Decision Making and Hoarding
Decision making as a common issue among hoarders
Overwhelm and avoidance connected to belongings and acquiring new items
Episode aims: understanding why decision making is hard, consequences of indecision, and strategies to help
Why Decision Making is Difficult for People Who Hoard
Cognitive Overload
Too many items to process, making each choice feel monumental
Resulting in avoidance and deferral of decisions
Accumulation due to unresolved decisions
Analysis Paralysis
Being stuck analysing endless options and outcomes
Difficulty prioritising and overthinking decisions
Exhaustion from mental effort
Information Processing Challenges
Trouble prioritising urgency and importance
Struggling to filter necessary versus unnecessary information
Being trapped in unresolvable decision loops
Emotional Barriers
Perfectionism and fear of making the wrong decision
Catastrophising possible negative outcomes
All-or-nothing thinking relating to perfectionism
Sentimental Attachment
Struggles with emotional connection to items (gifts, memories)
Difficulty discerning genuine sentimental value
Fear of the Future
Anxiety about future need or regret causing paralysis
Preference for clinging to items over risking discomfort
Executive Function Challenges
Difficulties with planning, organising, prioritising, and initiating tasks
Impact of poor working memory on decision making
Consequences of Avoiding Decisions
Vicious Cycle of Procrastination
Accumulation of clutter, increased overwhelm and fatigue
Practical Implications
Safety hazards and restricted home usage
Social isolation and relationship strain due to inability to host
Emotional Impact
Stress, depression, guilt, and shame
Financial Consequences
Extra spending, buying duplicates, damage or loss of items, missed bills and penalties
Building Negative Self-Perceptions
Belief in inability to decide reinforces avoidance
Declining self-trust and self-esteem
Strategies and Techniques for Improving Decision Making
Identify Resistance and Mental Blocks
Questioning internal "nope" responses
Understanding fears or overwhelming factors behind avoidance
Treat Decisions as Experiments
Lowering pressure by seeing outcomes as learning experiences
Avoiding a pass/fail mindset
Make Micro-Decisions
Starting with low-stakes, emotionally neutral items
Building decision-making confidence ("decision muscle")
Utilise Support Systems
Seeking feedback or accountability from friends, family, organisers, or therapists
Sense-checking and encouragement from others
Clarify Values and Priorities
Aligning decisions with personal goals (e.g., hospitality, functionality, beauty)
Using values as a decision compass
Set Time Limits
Imposing limits per decision to prevent overthinking
Adjusting duration as confidence improves
Accept “Good Enough” Decisions
Allowing for adequacy over perfection
Challenging double standards around self-expectations versus others
Reduce Number of Choices
Limiting possible options (e.g., keep/throw/donate)
Pre-determining criteria to streamline choices
Reality Checks
Probing feelings of “I might need it” with practical questions
Reviewing usage frequency and functionality
Increase Awareness of Avoidance
Noticing procrastination and avoidance behaviours
Evaluating the significance of indecision as a barrier
Build Tolerance for Uncertainty and Discomfort
Accepting that discomfort is part of life, and not deciding brings other difficulties
Gradually practicing sitting with uncertainty
Practice Consistency in Decision Making
Incorporating daily decision-making habits
Gently challenging avoidance and celebrating each choice made
Decision-making is a learnable, improvable skill
The importance of starting small and practicing imperfect decisions
Building self-trust and confidence through repeated practice
Encouragement to challenge avoidance and recognise growth with each decision
Links
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Self-care gets a lot of airtime these days, but I’ve started rethinking what it actually means, especially when you’re struggling with hoarding disorder. In this episode, I talk about why marketed, consumer-driven “self-care” just adds more pressure, and why nurturing yourself with compassion, connection, and practical routines is far more effective. Plus, I share some genuinely helpful, low-cost ways to support yourself without adding to the clutter - or your to-do list.
Self-Care in Modern Times
Evolution of the meaning of “self-care”:
The older, practical definition (basic hygiene, nourishment)
Current consumer-driven, extravagant interpretations
Critique of modern self-care commercialisation
Challenges of Hoarding and Mental Health Struggles
Emotional toll of hoarding disorder
Stress, anxiety, depression, trauma, grief
The exhausting process of trying to “fix” things
Daily stressors of living in a hoard
Feelings of failure, constant reminders, adrenaline spikes from unexpected visitors, tripping over items
The Real Purpose of Self-Care
Balancing negative emotions (stress, grief, trauma) with activities that nurture the soul
Evaluating popular self-care advice
The problem with universal, commercialised recommendations
Importance of individualised, inward-looking approaches
Introducing the Concept of "Self-Nurture"
How self-nurture differs from self-care
Greater compassion, sustainability, and personalisation
Emphasis on looking inwards for individual needs
Practical examples of self-nurturing activities
The Pitfalls of Commercialised Self-Care
The “shoulds” culture and guilt surrounding unmet self-care standards
Surface-level versus meaningful acts of care
How marketed solutions often do not address real needs
Guilt and shame when unable to practice recommended self-care (especially for those who hoard)
Consumer Culture and Self-Care
Self-care as a commodified experience: Encouragement to buy unnecessary products
How this affects people who hoard
Risk of exacerbating clutter by acquiring more as “self-care”
Focus on external fixes rather than internal wellbeing
The Benefits of Self-Nurture
Self-nurture as inexpensive or free
Focus on activities rather than acquisitions
Finding joy or restoration in simple practices (e.g., using what you have, accessing the library, running without specialised gear)
Compassionate Self-Nurture in Practice
Asking internal questions about core needs (physical, emotional, psychological)
Treating oneself as one would treat a person they love
Emphasis on gentle, non-critical, incremental progress
Drinking water for wellbeing rather than obligation
Time in nature, connecting with friends, creativity, self-acceptance
Building Emotional Security and Gentleness
Establishing emotional security as a core need
Managing self-criticism and reaching out for connection despite anxiety
Celebration of small wins and progress
Validating and acknowledging difficult feelings with compassion
Evaluating and Choosing Nurturing Activities
Key questions to ask: “Will this nurture me emotionally, psychologically, or physically?”
Differentiating between genuine needs and justifying unnecessary purchases
Avoidance of reinforcing negative patterns through acquisition
Developing a Personal Toolbox for Self-Nurture
Gathering and customising strategies that work
Routines and coping mechanisms
Taking stock of helpful techniques, personalising approaches
Recognising and valuing unique sources of restoration
Top Tip
DIY, low-cost tip for cleaning the dishwasher with household items
Encouragement to take any step, however small, towards self-nurture
#186 10 executive dysfunction tips and tricks to help people who hoard, whether we have ADHD or are neurodivergent or not - Hoarding Awareness Week 2025
For Hoarding Awareness Week 2025, I’m focusing on executive function - the brain’s control centre for planning, starting, and finishing tasks - and the small, practical hacks that can make a genuine difference for people who hoard, whether or not we have ADHD or are neurodivergent. I talk about real-life tips for breaking the overwhelm, managing perfectionism, building momentum, and overcoming shame, all with the aim of making progress sustainable and achievable in your day-to-day life. This episode is all about honest advice that actually works, whether you’re in the thick of it or just looking for a few smarter ways to approach this.
Hoarding Awareness Week 2025 and its theme: Hoarding & Executive Function
Recognition that executive function challenges impact both neurodivergent and neurotypical people
Executive Function and Hoarding
Previous podcast episodes relating to executive function, ADHD, and hoarding
Importance of using effective hacks and techniques, regardless of neurotype
Emphasis on finding what works personally for each listener
The Realities and Challenges of Tackling Hoarding
Overwhelm and daunting feelings about dehoarding
Breaking tasks into small, manageable parts
Focus on actionable, day-to-day strategies rather than long-term, rigid planning
Understanding Executive Function
Explanation of what executive function is (control centre for planning, focus, and impulse control)
Factors that can impair executive function (neurodivergence, mental health, stress, lack of sleep, etc.)
Universality of executive dysfunction - everyone struggles at times
Emotional Barriers: Perfectionism and Shame
The cycle of shame and self-blame in executive dysfunction and hoarding
Societal judgment around hoarding, and its paralysing effects
Strategies for stepping back, naming emotions, and cultivating self-compassion
Core Executive Dysfunction Tips and Hacks
Breaking Tasks Down
Setting realistic micro-goals
The concept of “towards” vs. “away” moves in progress
Tracking Progress
Counting bags/items leaving the house
Caution against tracking becoming burdensome for some
Using Timers
Setting short (e.g., 5-minute) timers to help with task initiation
Use of voice assistants to avoid distraction
Reverse-timer technique to use end of music/podcast as a cue for action
The Two-Minute Rule
Limitations and personal adaptations of rule
Identifying Motivations
Creating visual or written reminders of why you want to dehoard
Acceptance of some tools working only temporarily, and switching when necessary
Reward Systems
Small, non-material rewards for completing tasks
Linking listening to desired media (like the podcast) with decluttering activities
Non-Negotiable Rules
Creating routines to reduce decision fatigue (e.g., charity bags leave home immediately)
Body Doubling
Doing tasks alongside others (physically or virtually, like in the host’s Zoom sessions)
Emotional/moral support of parallel accountability
Alternative ways to body double if group support isn’t accessible
Time Blocking and Scheduling
Using calendars and reminders to schedule decluttering sessions
Flexibly adapting this strategy based on personal response
Habit Stacking
Linking a new task to an established routine (e.g., unloading dishwasher while kettle boils)
Using “add-ons” for frequently-visited spaces (e.g., clearing five things each time you enter the bathroom)
In this episode, I’m with Dr Jan Eppingstall, a Melbourne-based counsellor and hoarding expert extraordinaire. We unpack the concept of engaging with our belongings - actually seeing, touching, and using the things we tend to accumulate, rather than letting them fade into the background. Jan shares insights from her work, explains why we often feel safer just owning stuff instead of interacting with it, and offers practical ways to build a healthier, more intentional relationship with what we own. There are some genuinely enlightening moments, and plenty of ideas for anyone looking to break free from an excess of stuff.
Defining "Engaging with Our Stuff"
What it means to actually engage with possessions (seeing, touching, using)
Comparison to possessions fading into the background
The idea of using versus just possessing objects
Patterns of Engagement Among People Who Hoard
Sense of safety from being surrounded by possessions without interaction
Only the "top layer" of possessions typically being used
Loss of intention behind keeping sentimental or useful items
The psychological comfort of having versus using objects
Emotional and Psychological Aspects of Compulsive Hoarding
Emotional connection to the potential of objects rather than actual objects
Avoidance of decision-making by not engaging/touching items
Security and reassurance derived from the mere presence of items
Defeatism and pointlessness associated with searching for or using objects
Barriers to Engaging with Possessions
Overwhelm from the sheer volume of stuff
Active resistance and avoidance behaviours
Feelings of incompetence and adaptation through purchasing duplicates
Guilt associated with over-accumulation
Benefits of Actively Engaging with Possessions
Rediscovering useful or wanted items when sorting
Increased awareness of what is owned and where it is
Neurological and psychological benefits of tactile interaction
Insights gained from using and trying on items (e.g., clothing)
Decision-making as a muscle that strengthens with practice
Realisations about unnecessary duplicates (e.g., multiple ladles in the kitchen)
Emotional and practical hurdles in finding homes for items
Perfectionism and rigidity around item placement and organisation
Moving, Arranging, and Re-organising Possessions
Resistance to moving items from "their place" due to tradition, attachment, or perfectionism
Fear of forgetting where things are if organisational changes are made
Multi-step decision fatigue when organising
The importance of flexible, evolving systems for item placement
Confronting Avoidance and Overwhelm
The value of small steps, e.g., simply looking into an avoided bag or space
The myth of a “good reason” for keeping certain items, often dispelled when items are revisited
Developing Healthier, More Intentional Relationships with Stuff
Introducing intention and ritual to everyday interactions with possessions
“Rotation stations” and seasonal evaluation/rituals
Benefits of conscious handling, organisation, and maintenance
Cultural Perspectives and Practices
Japanese concepts:
Te Ate: hand-care, tactile connection as a ritual
Mushiboshi: seasonal airing and assessment of items
Ma: meaningful emptiness/space as a source of tranquillity
Contrasts between Western consumerism and other cultural approaches to possessions
Challenges and Solutions in Organising and Letting Go
The impact of spatial processing or organisational difficulties
Accepting that resistance to change is sometimes due to overwhelm
Personalisation and Flexibility in Managing Possessions
Tailoring organisation and engagement to one’s own needs, routines, and neurodiversity
Maximalism and the need for varying levels of stimulus—distinguishing between maximalism and chaos
Allowing spaces to be intentionally clear, embracing the benefits of emptiness
The ongoing journey of developing intentionality with possessions
The importance of kindness and patience with oneself in making these changes
This week, I talk about what happens when I actually let myself feel the tough emotions instead of shutting them down - a pattern that's shaped my life and my struggles with hoarding, self-harm, and eating disorders. After a thought-provoking conversation with Anna Sale on Death, Sex & Money last year, I started questioning whether avoiding feelings has helped or hurt me in the long run and have been trying to process that ever since! I share what it’s like to sit with big emotions, experiment with messy ways to cope, and why feeling the feelings might just be a way forward.
Avoiding Feelings
Realisation that I tend to do anything rather than feel difficult emotions.
Recent personal reflection and processing feelings over the past few months.
Impact of mental health and a PTSD flare-up on my ability to manage feelings.
Connecting Coping Mechanisms to Avoidance
Experience with PTSD, self-harm, anorexia, and bulimia as different forms of not feeling or avoiding emotions.
Insights from an interview with Anna Sale on Death, Sex & Money that linked these coping together as forms of avoidance.
Acknowledgment that these strategies were more than just avoidance - also punitive, protective, and multifaceted.
The Cost and Pattern of Emotional Avoidance
Compartmentalising as a lifelong coping skill and its negative long-term consequences.
Difficulty breaking the habit of not feeling and the impact on my sense of identity.
Recognition that suppressing feelings can be as damaging as (or more damaging than) the feelings themselves.
Actively Facing and Processing Feelings
Engaging in therapy, journaling (both resentful and creative/collage style), and reading poetry to access emotions.
Talking more openly with friends as a supportive measure.
Forcing myself to do enjoyable activities (like getting outside), which helps counteract avoidance.
Community, Connection, and Support
Impact of Trauma and Suppression on Daily Life
How PTSD and unprocessed sadness began affecting sleep, revealing that suppressing feelings is no longer effective.
Discusses the challenge of letting oneself feel emotions, both by choice and when overcome involuntarily.
The risks of being overwhelmed and the delicate balance between feeling and avoidance.
Learning and Conversations About Emotional Acceptance
Revisiting lessons from previous podcast guests about the counterproductivity of suppressing or over-intellectualising feelings.
The concept that suppressed emotions may “come out sideways” through other behaviours, like self-harm or hoarding.
Nuanced view of coping mechanisms - not labeling them as purely negative since they served protective purposes.
Vulnerability, Shame, and Deepening Relationships
Gradual willingness to share deeper, more distressing moments with friends.
Examining the reasons behind the instinct to hide intense distress.
How vulnerability leads to stronger, more meaningful connections.
Positive Effects of Feeling the Hard Stuff
Discovering that feeling hard emotions increases the capacity to feel positive emotions more deeply.
Finding deeper love, joy, and beauty in everyday experiences.
Recognising the importance of support systems when exploring difficult emotions.
Reflection and Encouragement for Listeners
Encourages listeners to be curious about their own patterns of avoidance and coping.
Cautions that intentionally feeling emotions is difficult and requires support.
The hopeful observation that allowing feelings can be cathartic, gratifying, and healing—even if it’s uncomfortable.
In this episode, I chat with Carrie Lagerstedt, a professional home organiser specialising in working with neurodivergent people in New Zealand. Carrie, diagnosed with ADHD herself, shares insights on managing clutter and executive dysfunction by creating home systems that work for us. We challenge the very idea of laziness and explore the potential of “may as well”.
Today, I'm joined by Dr Jan Eppingstall to unpack "towards moves" and "away moves" in the context of hoarding. These terms might sound unusual, but they're crucial for understanding behaviour in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and how they relate to our values. It's all about recognising whether our actions are leading us closer to what matters or pulling us further away, and we'll be exploring how to identify and pivot those choices.
Introduction to Towards Moves and Away Moves
Definition and explanation of the concept.
The relevance of these moves in dealing with hoarding disorder.
During a recent drive with a perfectly curated playlist, I had a revelation about cause and effect, particularly how our past behaviours and experiences contribute to both our challenges and our successes. I talk about having a compassionate understanding of how we've arrived at our current situation and how small, mindful actions today can shape a more positive future. The episode also features a discussion on Podcasthon and highlights the UK mental health charity Mind.
Explanation of Podcasthon: A week where podcasts highlight a charity.
Mind Charity: Focus on the mental health charity Mind in the UK.
Audio Clip: Sharing a video of Mind's work, with a translation of a Welsh sentence.
Cause and Effect Discussion
Insight through Music: Personal anecdote about creating a playlist for a long drive.
The role of personal actions in positive outcomes.
Life and Hoarding: Exploring causes of both positive and negative outcomes in life.
Factors influencing hoarding: Trauma, scarcity, and mental health challenges.
Behaviour evolution: Hoarding behaviours becoming normal over time.
Impact of Life Experiences
Examining past experiences and their contributions to current behaviours.
Considering past without judgment as a way to understand hoarding.
Facing Reality
Objective Assessment: Evaluating the current state of living conditions.
Navigating feelings like anger, sadness, and bitterness.
Future Implications
Positive Actions: How they can shape a better future.
Accountability and Responsibility: Recognising the impact of present actions.
#180 Arts and crafts and pretty, pretty things: artists, aesthetics and hoarding with Dr Jan Eppingstall
In this episode, I'm joined by Dr Jan Eppingstall to explore a fascinating angle on hoarding: its artistic side. We'll tackle the connection between creativity and hoarding, including why so many people who hoard are into arts and crafts, and diving into how people who hoard might view their possessions in an unusually aesthetic light. Jan shares insights from both clinical experience and research, offering a fresh perspective on the parallels between art and accumulation. Whether you're a creative type or just curious about the psychology behind collecting, this conversation will give you plenty to think about.
Curiosity: Example of using curiosity to cope with pain.
Gratitude: Using the Finch app to practice gratitude daily.
Journaling: Imperfect journaling as a new approach to managing emotions.
Arty, Crafty Side of Hoarding
Trends seen in clients regarding art and hoarding
The challenge of managing craft supplies in people who hoard
Analysing Creativity and Hoarding
Comparison to detectives and acute perception
Consideration of feeling overlooked
Struggles with Crafting and Perfectionism
Challenges in starting and completing craft projects
Study on Artists and Hoarding
Traits shared by studio artists and people who hoard
ADHD and executive dysfunction parallels
Art and Beauty in Hoarding
Tendency to keep beautiful things
Struggles with displaying or appreciating collected items
Analysis of Andy Warhol's Accumulation
Discussion of Warhol’s collection as art vs. hoarding
Socioeconomic and behavioural aspects of collecting vs. hoarding
Aesthetics and Inclusion in Hoarding
Discussion of under-inclusiveness in categorising objects
Exploration of seeing beauty in ordinary objects
Potential Neurodevelopmental Aspects of Hoarding
Insights from MRI study
Brain regions potentially linked to hoarding behaviours
Using Art to Represent Hoarding Space
Artists using clutter and hoarding as themes in art
Questioning the nature of representing hoarding through art
Fear of Sterile and Soulless Homes
Addressing the fear that tidiness equals lack of personality
Discussing clutter core and maximising aesthetic displays
#179 How hoarding behaviours develop and early intervention for hoarding disorder, with Dr Victoria Ruby-Granger
In this episode, I'm chatting with Dr. Victoria Ruby-Granger, a psychologist at De Montfort University who has researched how hoarding behaviours develop and the potential for early intervention. We explore the importance of looking beyond physical clutter to understand what possessions mean for those with hoarding tendencies and discuss the role of trauma, loss and life transitions. Plus, we touch on the challenges and potential pathways for early intervention in children and young people.
Dr. Victoria Ruby-Granger's Path to Studying Hoarding
Influence of TV programmes about hoarding.
Curiosity about the development of hoarding behaviours.
Research on Hoarding Behaviours and Childhood
Discussion on hoarding behaviours beginning in childhood or adolescence.
Experiences shared by research participants.
Understanding 'Struggling to Manage'
Explanation of the concept derived from research.
Methods used by Dr. Victoria Ruby-Granger in her research.
Qualitative study and grounded theory methodology.
Patterns of Hoarding Development
Managing possessions and life.
Emotional attachments and meanings of possessions.
Impact of life transitions on hoarding behaviour.
Overcoming Hoarding Challenges
Importance of support beyond possessions
Identity and functioning challenges for individuals with hoarding disorder.
Early Intervention in Hoarding
Difficulty in identifying people who need early intervention.
Importance of awareness and understanding childhood behaviours.
Diagnostic Criteria and Support Challenges
Discussion on current diagnostic criteria for hoarding disorder.
Difficulties in accessing support without a diagnosis.
Potential Patterns and Findings in Dr. Victoria Ruby-Granger's Research
Emotional attachments and decision-making reluctance.
Preferences for discarding possessions through certain methods.
Advice for Parents about children showing hoarding behaviours
Recommendations for parents of children displaying hoarding-related behaviours.
Importance of communication and understanding the emotional meanings attached to items.
Emphasis on trauma and loss in hoarding behaviours.
Importance of understanding personal experiences in hoarding
#178 Growing up in a hoarded home: Sam’s story as the child of a Mum who hoards
In this episode I chat with Sam, who speaks movingly about growing up with a mother who hoards. Now 28, Sam reflects on the claustrophobic environment, the impact on their self-esteem and organisation, and the ongoing journey to rebuild a relationship with food, space, and self-worth. Whether you're a hoarder, the child of somebody who hoards, or you know someone who is, Sam's story offers a vital perspective on living through - and beyond - the hoard.
Sam’s experience growing up in a hoarded home
Importance of understanding perspectives of those affected by hoarding
Sam’s Childhood Experience
Description of upbringing in a hoarded home
Emotional impact and feelings of claustrophobia and anxiety
Lack of emotional and physical space
Experiences of shame and comparison with peers
Coping Mechanisms and Effects on Daily Life
Sam's view of their home as an obstacle course
Impact of hoarding on family relationships
Lack of privacy and its influence on personal development
Impact on Self-Esteem and Mental Health
Struggle with self-esteem and self-care
Connection between environment and depression
Feelings of negativity and isolation
School and Social Interactions
Effect on academic performance and organisational skills
Challenges in completing schoolwork
Experiences with friends visiting the home and related anxieties
Adolescence and Growing Awareness
Anger and frustration during teenage years
Lack of external intervention and support
Missed opportunities for professional help
External Perception and Professional Insight
Outside family and societal perceptions of hoarding
Drip-feeding experiences to others and feeling of overwhelming others
Relationship with Food and Nutrition
Negative perceptions of food due to spoiling and smells
Ongoing struggle with eating certain foods, particularly fruit
Rebuilding a relationship with food as an adult
Leaving the Home and Independence
Sam’s experience and decision to move out at 20
Challenges and processes involved in leaving the parental hoarded home
Continued responsibilities in a second hoarded home
Long-term Effects on Sam’s Adult Life
Influence on career choice and support work with young carers
Ongoing challenges with personal organisation and self-care
Struggles with mental health and burnout
Sam’s Relationship with Family
Complex relationship dynamics with parents
Lack of understanding from parents regarding Sam’s struggles and decisions
Reflection on parental insight into hoarding and its effects on family
Current Relationship with Hoarding and Cleaning
Sam’s approach to possessions
Emotional responses to cleaning and organising tasks
Developing the skillset for maintaining an organised living space
Message for Others Experiencing Similar Situations
Encouragement for other young carers and children of hoarders
Importance of self-worth and identity outside of hoarding stigmas
Strategies for mental health and personal growth
Final Thoughts and Reflections
Reflections on how sharing and exploration helps understanding
Hope for the interview to be beneficial to listeners with similar experiences
#177 11 unexpected things this podcast has taught me about mistakes, life, perfectionism and progress
Today, I'm reflecting on 11 unexpected lessons I've picked up since starting this podcast, which go beyond just understanding hoarding disorder. From learning the power of showing progress rather than perfection, to discovering the benefits of stepping out of my comfort zone, I'll share insights that have influenced not just my journey with hoarding, but life as a whole.
Let's see how the themes of mistakes, progress, and learning can apply to anyone seeking positive change.
Importance of showing progress instead of aiming for perfection
Personal struggle with early episodes and progression over time
Decision to keep early episodes live as a reflection of journey and growth
Examining Contradictions
Realisation of contradictions in personal life versus podcasting
Applying podcast editing philosophy to home tidying
Capabilities and Achievements
Realisation of being able to do things previously thought impossible
Learning from incremental progress and its application to life
Comfort Zones
Exploring stepping outside of comfort zones
The rewards of nudging the edges and expanding comfort zones slowly
Learning and Growth
Starting from minimal knowledge and continuously learning
Academic engagement and gaining comprehensive understanding
Sticking to a Routine
Maintaining a consistent schedule and routine with the podcast
Role of accountability and motivation in sticking to a routine
Adaptability and Change
Ability to learn, adapt, and tweak processes over time
Application of flexibility learned from podcasting to personal life
Community and Accountability
Impact of accountability and community support on podcasting and life
Building mutual support through interactions and feedback
Facing Mistakes and Reality
Embracing mistakes and authenticity rather than striving for flawlessness
Shifting perspective on self-perceived failures
Respect and Compassion from Others
Receiving respect from guests and listeners despite personal doubts
Impact on self-compassion and self-respect
Transferability of Learning
Applying lessons learned in podcasting to other areas of life
Recognising that growth in one area can benefit others
Reflections on the transformative impact of the podcast on life
Encouragement to pursue growth and new experiences beyond direct goals
#176 What to do with clothes when we lose or gain weight (with absolutely NO diet-culture talk!): practical tips for dealing with size fluctuations without clutter
In today's episode, I talk about the practical challenges of handling clothes when losing or gaining weight, without promoting or criticising body size changes – this is a diet-culture free zone! I look at the emotional, nostalgic, and practical hurdles in letting go of clothes that no longer fit and offer advice on maintaining a well-balanced wardrobe while managing current size transitions. Like, what do we buy in our new size?! Plus, I'll provide practical tips on selling or donating old clothes and how to avoid over-accumulating in your new size.
Handling Clothes When Gaining or Losing Weight
Experience with Weight Fluctuation
Emotional and Practical Challenges of Clothes That No Longer Fit
Challenges of Discarding Clothes
Emotional Attachment to Clothes
Difficulty in Letting Go of Clothes with Memories or Associations
Factors Influencing the Decision to Keep or Discard Clothes
Potential Future Weight Fluctuations
Emotional Attachments
The Sunk Cost Fallacy
Guilt About Waste
Strategies for Managing Clothes When Weight Changes
Building the Dehoarding Muscle
Selling vs. Donating Clothes
Setting Parameters for Clothing Storage
Practical Solutions for Current Clothing Needs
Shopping Your Own Stuff
Gradual Replacement Strategy
Mindful Purchasing Decisions
The Liberating Aspects of Letting Go of Clothes
#175 Taking the scary first steps: the courage to call a professional organiser, with Jasmine Sleigh
In this episode, I'm joined by Jasmine Sleigh, professional declutterer, as we discuss the daunting first steps of reaching out for professional help in tackling hoarding. Jasmine shares insights into what prompts individuals to make that initial call and the courage it takes, alongside practical strategies for working with organisers. Tune in for a thoughtful conversation on overcoming fears and building trust for positive change in managing clutter.
Inviting Professional Help
Jasmine explains common motivators for people to seek help
Specific incidents or realisations prompting action
Example scenarios like misplaced items or repairs
The Initial Call to a Professional Organiser
What typically prompts the call for professional help
Jasmine's perspective on admiration for those who reach out
The importance of taking calls seriously and with empathy
Engaging with Potential Clients
Approach to initial conversations with potential clients
Building trust and understanding the client's situation
Establishing client needs and potential outcomes
Assessing the Client’s Home
How Jasmine gathers information about the client's home
Importance of assessing without judgment
Considering client interaction with their items and living space
Professional Organiser-Client Dynamics
Respecting clients’ preferences and leading decisions
Balancing professional insight with client autonomy
Working towards the client's goals and priorities
Process from Inquiry to Working Together
Steps from initial inquiry to in-home visit
Managing client expectations and realities
Ensuring client comfort and readiness
In-Home Visit Experience
Jasmine’s mindset and approach during a home visit
Avoiding overwhelm and maintaining professionalism
Logistical and emotional assessments of the client’s environment
Judgment and Perception in the Decluttering Process
Being conscious of non-verbal cues and judgments perceived by clients
Strategies for maintaining client comfort and trust
Determining Fit and Referrals
Assessing fit between client and professional organiser
Referring clients to other professionals when appropriate
Dealing with Client Motivations and External Pressures
Addressing clients seeking help due to external pressures
Finding a balance between urgency and client readiness
Ensuring Positive Outcomes and Encouraging Future Engagement
Creating a sense of achievement for the client
Fostering positive experiences to encourage future self-help
Challenges and Responsibilities of Professional Organisers
Ethical responsibilities and managing client expectations
Building trust for effective collaboration
Personal Reflections and Habits for Mental Health
Jasmine shares personal habits that support her mental health
Reflection on the importance of reading and self-care activities
#174 How to feel grounded when we're overwhelmed or dysregulated using ventral vagal spaces and touchstones, with Dr Jan Eppingstall
In today's episode, Dr Jan Eppingstall and I explore how to create a ventral vagal space or touchstone to help us regulate our emotions, drawing inspiration from the work of Deb Dana and polyvagal theory. We look at how we can find or create areas within our home, and objects we can use on the go, that provide safety and connection, allowing us to feel grounded and manage overwhelming moments. We'll look at the emotional significance of objects, avoiding those that glower at us, and instead creating spaces filled with comfort and warmth.
Creating Your Own Ventral Vagal Space
Permission Slip segment
Discussion about photographic portraits
Emotions associated with the portraits
Objects as Memories
Significant memories vs. happy memories
Harriet Impey's notion of "glowering" objects
Emotional Impact of Objects
Portraits as a reminder of insecurity
Ventral Vagal Space Concept
Use of Deb Dana's work in polyvagal theory
Connection between emotional safety and physical space
Explanation of Polyvagal Theory
Breakdown of the nervous system's stages: ventral vagal, sympathetic, and dorsal vagal
Relevance of Polyvagal Theory to Hoarding
Trauma and its relation to object attachment
Challenges of decision-making in a cluttered environment
Deb Dana's Home Analogy - Comparison of home systems to body's autonomic systems
Integration needed for a "full life" and connection
Practical Application of Ventral Vagal Spaces
Creating nourishing home spaces
Abundance
Importance of Touchstones
Explanation and significance of touchstones
Examples of personal or portable calming items
Creating a Ventral Vagal Space or Touchstone
Starting small by identifying objects that bring safety and contentment
Using childhood memories to influence current safe spaces
Applications and Benefits
Using the space for emotional regulation
Touchstones as portable reminders of safety
Recognising objects that already serve as touchstones
Importance of awareness and observation in identifying touchstones
Utilising Resources for Grounding
Examples of resources: lava lamps, messages, certain sounds
Strategies for implementing these resources in daily life
#173 9 things that are working for me when tackling hoarding and over-acquiring right now
In today's episode, I'm sharing nine strategies that are making a real difference in managing my hoarding behaviour and curbing over-acquiring right now. From tricks to overcome perfectionism and opening a daunting pile of letters to finding support in unexpected places and even leveraging a cute app, these tactics are moving me forward.
Join me as I lay out what's working, in the hope it sparks a few ideas for you too.
Opening 100 unopened letters
Overcoming fear and procrastination
Sorting coins and dealing with obsolete items
Decision-making process in letting go
Recognising dehoarding as self-kindness, not punishment
Benefits of having a friend who knows the hoarding situation
Managing perfectionism and doing things imperfectly
Using the "hummingbird method" for tasks
Introduction and use of the Finch app for self-care
Using virtual assistants for task reminders
Success with excessive mug collection and food cupboards
Impact of the documentary "Buy Now" on purchasing habits