Silicon Valley wants to shape our future, but why should we let it? Every Thursday, Paris Marx is joined by a new guest to critically examine the tech industry, its big promises, and the people behind them. Tech Won’t Save Us challenges the notion that tech alone can drive our world forward by showing that separating tech from politics has consequences for us all, especially the most vulnerable. It’s not your usual tech podcast.
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Paris Marx is joined by Brian Merchant to discuss whether the AI bubble is about to burst and how bosses are deploying AI tools to kill jobs and degrade work.
Brian Merchant is the author of Blood in the Machine and writes a newsletter of the same name.
Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson.
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Brian has a series called AI Killed My Job with existing entries on tech workers and translators.
Brian encourages listeners to check out the work being done by the National Writer’s Union, Translators Against the Machine, and Lucile Danilov at Loc’d and Loaded.
You can contact Brian directly by emailing aikilledmyjob@pm.me
A Stanford paper published this week explores the effects of AGI on employment.
How China’s Renewable Push Upends Geopolitics w/ Kate Mackenzie & Tim Sahay
Episode 291
Thursday, August 28, 2025 • Duration 01:01:19
Paris Marx is joined by Kate Mackenzie and Tim Sahay to discuss the geopolitics behind China’s investments in green tech and electrification, and how it presents the prospect of a new development model based on renewables instead of fossil fuels.
Kate Mackenzie is an adjunct fellow at Macquarie University. Tim Sahay is co-director of the Net Zero Industrial Policy Lab at Johns Hopkins University. They are the co-writers of the Polycrisis newsletter from Phenomenal World.
Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson.
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Tim and Kate wrote about the potential role of the BRICS in future geopolitics.
The Financial Times explored the implications of China as an electrostate.
China leads the growing electric vehicle market, by a lot.
Pakistan imported 17 gigawatts of solar panels in 2024 alone, as Africa is in the midst of its own surge in Chinese solar panel imports.
Trump’s policies are pushing China and India to strengthen ties.
Chatbots Are Repeating Social Media’s Harms w/ Nitasha Tiku
Episode 282
Thursday, June 26, 2025 • Duration 53:48
Paris Marx is joined by Nitasha Tiku to discuss how AI companies are preying on users to drive engagement and how that’s repeating many of the problems we’re belatedly trying to address with social media companies at an accelerated pace.Nitasha Tiku is a technology reporter at the Washington Post.Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson.Also mentioned in this episode:
Nitasha wrote about how chatbots are messing with people’s minds.
Paris wrote about Mark Zuckerberg’s comments about people needing AI friends.
AI companies are facing ongoing lawsuits over harmful content.
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How Spotify Tried to Take Over Podcasting w/ Eric Silver
Episode 204
Thursday, January 25, 2024 • Duration 59:42
Paris Marx is joined by Eric Silver to discuss Spotify’s big plan to dominate podcasting, why it’s now pulling back from those efforts, and the difference between highly produced and more independent podcasts.Eric Silver is a podcast producer and head of development at Multitude.Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation and produced by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.Also mentioned in this episode:
Paris will be in Christchurch on February 4 (details here) and Wellington on February 8 (details here). He’s hoping to get an Auckland date organized and is open to going to Australia.
Spotify pulled back on its podcasting ambitions last year, canceling big shows and laying off staff.
After buying Gimlet and Parcast, it merged them into Spotify Originals last year.
Ashley Carman posted a slide from a Spotify presentation presenting the RSS feed as “outdated tech” because it’s harder for them to harvest data from.
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AI Hype Distracted Us From Real Problems w/ Timnit Gebru
Episode 203
Thursday, January 18, 2024 • Duration 01:01:26
Paris Marx is joined by Timnit Gebru to discuss the past year in AI hype, how AI companies have shaped regulation, and tech’s relationship to Israel’s military campaign in Gaza. Timnit Gebru is the founder and executive director of the Distributed AI Research Institute. Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon. The podcast is produced by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry. Also mentioned in this episode:
Paris is speaking in Montreal on January 20. Details here.
Billy Perrigo reported on OpenAI lobbying to water down the EU’s AI Act.
Nitasha Tiku wrote about the push to train students in a particular idea of AI.
Politico has been doing a lot of reporting on the influences on AI policy in the US and UK.
OpenAI made a submission in the UK to try to get permission to train on copyrighted material.
Arab workers in the tech industry fear the consequences of speaking out for Palestinian rights.
972 Magazine reported on Israel’s use of AI to increase its targets in Gaza.
Jack Poulson chronicles the growing ties between military and tech.
Timnit mentioned No Tech for Apartheid, Antony Loewenstein’s The Palestine Laboratory, and Malcolm Harris’ Palo Alto.
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What Social Media Meant for the Mass Protest Decade w/ Vincent Bevins
Episode 202
Thursday, January 11, 2024 • Duration 57:12
Paris Marx is joined by Vincent Bevins to discuss the mass protests of the 2010s, the role that social and traditional media played in them, and why the horizontalism of those movements ultimately didn’t work.Vincent Bevins is a longtime foreign correspondent who has worked for the Washington Post, Financial Times, and LA Times. He’s the author of The Jakarta Method and If We Burn: The Mass Protest Decade and the Missing Revolution.Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation and produced by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.Also mentioned in this episode:
Read excerpts from If We Burn in The Guardian and In These Times.
Vincent mentioned the work of Charles Tilley, Cihan Tuğal, Evgeny Morozov, and Andrey Mir.
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How the Mirror World Distorts Our Reality w/ Naomi Klein
Episode 201
Thursday, January 4, 2024 • Duration 01:00:41
Paris Marx is joined by Naomi Klein to discuss the problems with personal branding pushed social media, how the left’s insufficient response to the pandemic created an opening for the right, and the fight over the roots of Western society that will shape our future. Naomi Klein is an award-winning journalist, New York Times bestselling author, and a columnist with The Guardian. She is the founding co-director of the UBC Centre for Climate Justice and Professor of Climate Justice at the University of British Columbia. Her newest book is Doppelganger: A Trip Into the Mirror World. Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon. The podcast is produced by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry. Also mentioned in this episode:
Read excerpts of Doppelganger in The Guardian and Vanity Fair.
Naomi mentions Aimé Césaire’s Discourse on Colonialism.
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The Year In Tech 2023 w/ Gita Jackson, Molly White, & Aaron Thorpe
Episode 200
Thursday, December 28, 2023 • Duration 02:05:05
2023 is over, so it’s time to go through everything! In a special year-end episode, we review the biggest stories of 2023, what we’re thinking of the AI hype, how science fiction makes us think about the future, the worst villains in the tech industry, and what we’re watching in 2024. Gita Jackson is a journalist and cofounder of Aftermath. Molly White is the creator of Web3 is Going Just Great. Aaron Thorpe is co-host of Everybody Loves Communism. Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon. The podcast is produced by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry. Also mentioned in this episode:
If you become a Patreon supporter before the end of the year, you’ll be entered into a giveaway for five signed copies of Joanne McNeil’s Wrong Way and Paris Marx’s Road to Nowhere. Sign up now!
Gita recently launched Aftermath, and you can go subscribe!
Molly is getting started on TikTok. Go follow her!
Aaron posts a lot of cool science fiction art over on Twitter. Give him a follow!
You can see the Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos photos we discuss in the Worst Person in Tech segment on Twitter, Bluesky, and Mastodon.
Paris was mistaken: Enya sang “May It Be” for Fellowship of the Ring, not “Gollum’s Song” for the Two Towers. That was Emilíana Torrini. But Paris listened to both of them too much.
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Why Tech Makes Us More Insecure w/ Astra Taylor
Episode 199
Thursday, December 21, 2023 • Duration 01:03:08
Paris Marx is joined by Astra Taylor to discuss how capitalism creates insecurity to sustain itself, the way tech is used to make us more insecure, and what it will take to change that.Astra Taylor is a writer, filmmaker, and political organizer. She’s the author of The Age of Insecurity and co-founder of the Debt Collective. Her next book Solidarity: The Past, Present, and Future of a World-Changing Idea, written with Leah Hunt-Hendrix, comes out in March. Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon. The podcast is produced by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry. Also mentioned in this episode:
Astra wrote about the Insecurity Machine for Logic Magazine and the Dads of Tech for The Baffler.
Find excerpts from The Age of Insecurity in The New York Times and The Walrus.
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How Effective Accelerationism Divides Silicon Valley w/ Émile Torres
Episode 198
Thursday, December 14, 2023 • Duration 01:14:17
Paris Marx is joined by Émile Torres to discuss Silicon Valley’s recent obsession with effective accelerationism, how it builds on the TESCREAL ideologies, and why it shows the divide at the top of the AI industry. Émile Torres is a postdoctoral fellow at Case Western Reserve University. They’re also the author of Human Extinction: A History of the Science and Ethics of Annihilation. Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon. The podcast is produced by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry. Also mentioned in this episode:
Emile wrote about the TESCREAL ideologies and AI extinction scaremongering.
Timnit Gebru also did a great presentation on TESCREAL.
Paris wrote about the religious nature of Marc Andreessen’s techno-solutionist manifesto and about Sam Altman’s (temporary) ouster from OpenAI.
The Year In Tech livestream for Patreon supporters is on December 17 at 1pm PT / 4pm ET / 9pm GMT. More details on Patreon or Twitter.
The Information did a great profile on effective accelerationism.
Forbes revealed the man behind the e/acc moniker Beff Jezos.
972 Magazine reported on Israeli’s use of AI to expand targets in Gaza.
UK plans a “hit squad” to replace public servants with AI. Paris wrote about the threat it poses.
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