In this week’s Team Never Quit episode, Marcus and Melanie sit down with Bedros Keuilian, a true embodiment of the American Dream. Born in Armenia, Bedros and his family fled communism to seek freedom and opportunity in the United States. From these humble beginnings, Bedros has become a highly successful American entrepreneur, demonstrating the power of determination and resilience.
Bedros is a serial entrepreneur and investor with a hand in over a dozen industry-leading brands and businesses. He is the founder of Fit Body Boot Camp, a fitness franchise that has been recognized by Inc. Magazine and Entrepreneur Magazine as one of the 100 fastest-growing franchise brands in the world.
He is also the author of the Wall Street Journal Best Selling book "Man Up – How to Cut the BS and Dominate In Business and In Life." His work focuses on empowering individuals to eliminate excuses, take control of their lives, and achieve greatness.
Bedros believes in the power of the human spirit and the potential that lies within each of us. Through his life story, Bedros aims to inspire people to break free from their limitations and realize their full potential.
Join us for an inspiring conversation with Bedros Keuilian, where he shares his journey, insights, and strategies to help you get unstuck and achieve the success you’ve always dreamed of. Whether you're an aspiring entrepreneur, a seasoned business owner, or someone looking to improve their life, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways that can help you reach your fullest potential!

In This Episode You Will Hear:
• In 1980 [my dad] bribed an official in the Soviet government to allow us to go on vacation to Italy, where we then went to the American consult. (11:08)
• If [my dad] didn’t accept the privilege of being in the communist party, he’d be shipped off to Siberia. (11:38)
• One time a rooster gave chase to me, and I’m like 4 or 5 years old, and this rooster is angry and` pecking at me, and I’m running. And the only place I could run into was the outhouse to get away from it. So I ran into the outhouse – a giant hole in the ground. While I’m in here, I’m gonna take a piss. And I squat over it, took my pants off, and I fall in. (18:40)
• What my dad told me [America] was gonna be like – he kinda lied. (19:33)
• I had a tight green sweatshirt with Herman Munster on it, and it said “Herman” underneath. And so they took me took school, and the kids started calling me Herman, and I answered to it. (21:06)
• The life that he (my dad) gave by risking his life was huge. (26:13)
• I’m a kid, and within the first year I learned the language, and I’m good to go. (26:53)
• It was a horrible disease [Dementia] to have your mom not know your name. (28:40)
• The way that disease kills you is it eats away at the part of the brain that controls your breathing. (33:31)
• I remember a kid named Robby. He & I, behind a baseball backstop, we would try to dig a hole to China and we’d cover it up with twigs so no one would fill it in. (37:23)
• I hated school. (38:44)
• No good thing comes from being fat. I’m not body shaming. (45:06)
• I believe that you can only love the people around you to the capacity that you can love yourself. (45:47)
• My physical transformation going from fat to fit is how I got into fitness. (52:04)
• [Marcus] Q: Boils down your success to one thing. What is that? Discipline? What are we talking about? [Bedros] A: Discipline and singularity of focus. (53:17)
• I graduated because they didn’t want a man with a beard in high school. (54:30)
• Confidence is built when you make a promise to yourself and keep it. (57:00)
• Self-development metaphorically take the critic, duct tape him, gag him, and put him in the trunk. Then take the advocate ungag him, unbound him, put him in the front seat so you can hear him more often. (60:01)

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Living the Dream, Facing the Nightmare: An Interview with Alan C. Mack
This week's Team Never Quit guest is a decorated war hero and an extraordinary pilot whose military career spanned nearly 36 years, including 17 years in Army Special Operations. Alan C. Mack, a retired Chief Warrant Officer 5 (CW5), shares his incredible journey from a young man with a passion for flying to a highly respected leader in some of the most elite units of the U.S. military.
Alan's expertise and leadership saw him involved in numerous high-stakes operations, many still classified. One of the most notable missions he discusses is the Battle of Takur Ghar, also known as the Battle of Roberts Ridge, during Operation Anaconda in Afghanistan. Alan's bravery and skill under fire, including crash-landing a helicopter and attempting multiple rescue missions under heavy enemy fire, highlight his exceptional courage.
Alan's distinguished service has earned him numerous awards, including the Legion of Merit, two Distinguished Flying Crosses, three Bronze Stars, ten Air Medals (one with a Valor device), and many more. His impressive flight record includes over 6,700 flight hours, with more than 3,200 hours under Night Vision Goggles.
After retiring from the military, Alan continued to serve his community. He now works as the Deputy Commissioner of Emergency Services for Orange County, New York, a role that he appreciates for its peaceful nature compared to his military experiences.
Alan's story is one of resilience, dedication, and the pursuit of one's dreams. Despite the adversities and challenges faced in combat, his journey is a testament to the human spirit's ability to overcome and find meaning in serving others. His life is an inspiration, showing that with determination and courage, it's possible to live out your dreams while also facing and conquering the nightmares.
This episode will leave you both inspired and reflective.

In This Episode You Will Hear:
• The biggest cause of an air refueling incident is the grohe – it’s a big hose – you are actually only 19’ from rotors to tanker. (26:26)
• [During air refueling] You’re doing 110-120mph over the water. (27:00)
• I’ve done air refueling as low as 100’ off the coast of Iraq. (27:08)
• I get a missile fired at me so now I drop down between buildings. I’m down on the rooftops and you know what’s in front of me? Kites. Hundreds and hundreds of kites. (34:10)
• The older [Chinook helicopter] Delta models just had handheld maps. (43:34)
• [During Operation Red Wings] I sat down with the A10’s and the AC130’s with my map and the imagery and said “I need you to either suppress or creative a diversion that’s so big no one could help but look. (50:15)
• Crew Chiefs sometimes see things that aren’t there (and I hate to say it that way) but sometimes they’ll see lights of a car and think they’re seeing signal light signals. (53:28)
• Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good. (55:00)
• My youngest son was a Night Stalker Flight Engineer, and my oldest son is a Navy F18 wizzo (back seater) He’s a Goose. (58:05)
• I did 17 years with the Night Stalkers, plus about 10 years of deployment. (59:03)
• Every aircraft munition has a probable kill ratio. A surface to air missile has a “PK” of 75%, meaning that if they fired at you, you have a 75% chance of killing you. The ground has a 100% PK. (64:23)
• I’ve got about 3,500, maybe 4,000 hours of night vision time, which is a lot. (67:51)
• Anaconda was a conventional operation, such as Red Wings. There’s no soft component to it. (68:57)
• We had 4 or 5 people on the aircraft tail, and we are diving at about 150, [one of our men that fell out but is tethered] while they’re shooting at us and his toes are tickling the trees. The crew chief is returning fire with an M60 machine gun. He looks over and pulls our guy up, and I learned we had lost Neil [another guy] and decided we’ve gotta go back. So I turned inbound and climbed back up and the controls stopped moving. Imagine you pulled the keys out of your car. That’s what it’s like with no hydraulics. So I’m like “Guys… we’re done,” as in “We’re going to die.” (79:03)
• In the spirit of never quit, there’s a saying: ”Never quit flying the aircraft.” (83:22)
• Everything I do in life, I associate with movies I’ve seen. (88:12)

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Unmasking Cyber Threats: Insights from Kristofer Healey
In this week’s episode of the Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie dive deep into the world of cyber security with our special guest, Kristofer Healey and his wife, Lacey. Kristofer is a seasoned expert in cyber security, fraud prevention, and risk management. With years of experience working at the intersection of technology and security, Kristofer brings a wealth of knowledge on how to protect yourself and your organization in the digital age.
Kristofer is an expert on telefraud whose criminal investigative work has been featured in national media profiles, most notably his work investigating India-based call center networks targeting American citizens. Listen in for some great stories about Kristofer’s journey in entrepreneurship and how you can protect yourself and your business.
Kristofer is also a sought-after speaker and consultant, providing strategic advice on preventing cyber-attacks and managing risk in an increasingly connected world.

In This Episode You Will Hear:
• I worked for ICE down there [South Texas] for about 3 years, and I got picked up by the internal affairs group – Office of the Inspector General – around the time that the gulf cartel was going through a civil war. Cardenas gets extradited to the U.S. He started diming out every dirty Border Patrol Agent, every dirty CDP officer that he had paid money to. I got thrown right in the fire of going after all these dirty and corrupt Border Patrol officers and CDP officers. (6:59)
• I always tell my victims [of phone scams] is you’re gonna get a lot more justice than restitution. (17:07)
• They [phone scammers] get hung up on all the time, but it only takes one to make their week. (21:15)
• The 2 generations that fell victim the most were the 70+ (the boomers) and the younger folks that grew up on the internet. (27:32)
• These [phone scams] are incredibly smart schemes. (33:18)
• Once you do something insanely hard, everything else seems like something you can accomplish. (35:52)
• We indicted 61 people in 5 call centers in the U.S. and India. (42:25)
• She [One of the victims] lost 2 million dollars. She was 82 years old. A retired teacher. Lost every dollar she had. She lost everything. (58:45)
• The IRS scam was very effective, but because we took it down they don’t do that anymore. (63:05)
• For our seniors – people on Facebook in particular – stay off Marketplace. (70:50)
• When you introduce voluntary adversity throughout your life, you’ll always have a well of experiences you can draw from that are going to make you stronger when the adversity is involuntary. (92:09)
• We think we’re going the direction we need to be going in, and God reminds us you’re not in charge. (93:08)
• It’s not what happens to you. It’s how you react. (96:29)
• Life isn’t what happens. It’s what you do with what happens. (96:41) 

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When a rare genetic disorder hits home, it takes someone like this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast guest, Stephanie Herzog, to help find strategies to cure it. The Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy (DMD) diagnosis of her son, Max, was the driving force to connect her with Cure Rare Disease, who is currently developing life-saving therapeutics in collaboration with the world’s leading academics, clinicians, regulatory experts, translational experts, and manufacturing experts. Stephanie serves as a board member. The organization’s ground-breaking research is bringing to fruition the potential for permanent muscular regeneration, which was, at one time, science fiction.
In this episode you will hear:

• When we learned about our son’s condition, we put together a golf tournament to raise funds because it was A: Our only option, and B: Our best option to cure our kid. 
• 80% of boys with Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy have a gene deletion in the dystrophin gene. Max has a duplication of the dystrophin gene.
• In what should be the best time ever with your child, that’s when we find out he has this horrible disease.
• We had like a funeral in our house for like a month. 
• The weight of his future was heavy.
• Our team, through Crispr technology, hope to edit Max’s gene mutation.
• 6 years ago, this was science fiction.
• Boys usually get diagnosed between the ages of 4-6. They lose their ability to walk between the ages of 10 and 12. They usually lose their battle in their early 20s.
• They’re literally knocking out the gene duplication along a string in his DNA on the cellular level.
• Using the Crispr technology, the muscle cells are auto-correcting, producing dystrophin on their own.
• You wonder: “How am I going to live with this? And you do.”
• Faith is everything.
• You need somebody to pray to.
• When the going gets tough they have prayer.

What’s the difference between a professor of Criminal Justice and an undercover CIA, and FBI counterintelligence agent? In the case of this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast guest, Tracy Walder, the answer is Nothing. They‘re the same person.
Listen in as Marcus & Melanie Luttrell discuss Tracy’s first-hand accounts as a CIA officer and FBI field operative – fascinating stories. She successfully hunted down terrorists around the world using aliases and had face-to-face discussions with President Bush and General Colin Powell. Yet, she shares her experiences in a genuine, unexaggerated, and engaging manner.
Tracy is the author of The Unexpected Spy, and has appeared on numerous national programs, and has written several national security pieces.
In this episode you will hear:

• I was born with a developmental disability called Hypotonia. (Low muscle tone). It has no cure. I didn’t roll over until I was 1. I didn’t walk until I was 3.
• I attended USC for free since my dad was a professor there.
• The CIA polygraph process was annoying. All the questions were very frustrating. One session was 8 hours long and another was 3 hours.
• My job was to try to get as much information as possible on terrorist training camps.
• I served in 13 countries.
• I once had a meeting in the trunk of a car.
• Having Bin Laden in our sights at one time and not being able to do anything about it was really upsetting.
• My boss at the CIA was the best boss I have ever had in my life.
• My target was a guy named Zarqawi who founded ISIS.
• Zarqawi became enemy number one. That meant going overseas.
• My job was to manipulate people to give me information. It worked well for me.
• I worked with SEAL Team 6 a lot.
• I left the CIA because I didn’t want to live overseas anymore. I was totally burned out.
• As part of the CIA, you are not entitled to the same benefits as veterans, like mental health care.I love the counter-terrorism mission.

"Navy SEAL Down!" Those are words no soldier in battle ever wants to hear. In the case of this week's Team Never Quit guest, Jeff "Spanky" Peterson, the mission he had trained for as an HH-60 Pave Hawk helicopter pilot finally came into play in the mountains of Afghanistan. His mission: to rescue this podcast's host - Navy SEAL 10's Marcus Luttrell (code name: "Spider-Man") - after a dramatic & horrific ending to Operation Red Wings. Listen in to Jeff's detailed description of the events leading up to that harrowing rescue, and learn firsthand the degree of risk taken by U.S. soldiers on a day-in-day-out basis. The average American has no idea of the degree of "badassery" occurring in the theater of war by the U.S military around the world.
In this episode you will hear:

• People call us heroes, but I don't think of it that way.
• “Pack a three-day bag. You’re going up north.”
• A rocket-propelled grenade brought a Chinook chopper down, killing 16 men.
• Command picks up a clicking sound on a rescue radio frequency.
• My crew included a 57-year-old flight engineer, a gunner - a nervous University of Arizona student. My co-pilot was “Skinny”, 40-year-old seasoned by thousands of hours flying a Blackhawk.
• Are we looking for Americans, survivors, or is this a trap by the Taliban to draw in another chopper and blow it out of the sky?
• An elderly Afghani man arrives at a small Marine camp, with a note written by Luttrell.
• We have to fly into hostile Taliban territory to get him out.
• “It was dark and the weather was bad. It was a black abyss.”
• Except for the green glow of the rooftop position lights, we were flying black.
• "It was the Fourth of July out there."
• “We didn’t even know where we were going and which strobe light was the right one. It was just like a flashlight from God.”
• Within 10 feet from the ground, the rotors kicked up a storm of dust, sending us into a total brownout. I couldn’t see the wall, the ground, or the cliff.
• Both of ‘em were wearing Afghani man jammies. Before taking him aboard, we had to authenticate Marcus by asking him to say his dog's name and his favorite superhero. For the record, the answers are Emma and Spider-Man.
• When we got back, the only thing I wanted to do was talk to my wife, but we couldn't talk openly. All I could say was "Everything is good, "Everything is really, really good."
• "We stick our butts on the line to save people." "That's our combat mission.”

Excellence, Leadership, and Mentorship. Those words exemplify the life of this week's Team Never Quit guest, Aaron Walker. Aaron and Marcus kick around the adventures of entrepreneurship, a spectacular marriage, and how he applies that which he learns from his experiences – good and bad - to propel him to new heights. After learning tough lessons from a horrific life event, and then being guided by the finest financial and spiritual leaders, Aaron now plays it forward by mentoring others.
In this episode you will hear:

• I didn’t have anything at 18, and I was able to retire at 27.
• I played golf every day, I fished every day, and you can’t do that but so much, because you gotta have a purpose.
• While driving, I watched an older man walk across two lanes, he got to the median, and stopped. As soon as I got to him, he took off running to catch a bus, and I ran over him. It was literally like my life came to a standstill.
• One day I made the decision: I’ve been chasing money since I was 8 years old. I’m 40 now and I’m retiring – I’m through.
• Through a series of events, I spent 21 years sponsoring Dave Ramsey’s show, and we became best of friends.
• The Mastermind radically changed my life.
• We can’t quit. People need you. You can’t sit on the sidelines. We have to get up because nobody can live your life but you.
• I had great success financially, but I had no significance.
• I want my legacy to be that those I come in contact with are different as a result of having interacted with me.
• I want to leave a legacy of helping, giving, supporting, encouraging, lifting people up and helping them accomplish their dreams and goals.
• God is always working in the background.
• The thing that I thought was taking me out was the catalyst for transforming the lives of other people.
• We all need trusted advisors. Don’t do what I did and have a pocketful of money only to come home to a house full of strangers.
• You can go faster alone, but you can go much further together.
• Failure is in not trying, not in not succeeding.
• Go out there today. Go for it. Never quit. 

It's hard to imagine how life could possibly go on when someone who has everything to live for commits suicide. How do you respond to such a tragedy? In this week's Team Never Quit Podcast, our guest, Sara Wilkinson, Gold Star wife of Navy SEAL Chad Wilkinson, speaks candidly about her military family life, her love for Chad, and raising their children on her own. Sara is determined to reduce the stigma surrounding the silent epidemic of Veteran suicide and bring awareness to its warning signs and triggers. She brings honor to Chad's legacy, and discusses the importance of fitness, and living large, despite what life brings.
In this episode you will hear:

• My whole life I moved around. I attended 15 schools before I graduated.
• [For the military guys] it’s really hard to hop off the hamster wheel unless someone tells you to hop off. And no one tells you to hop off.
• I was a Crossfit trainer and I opened a Crossfit gym in Virginia Beach.
• Men and women can all suffer from Blast Waves, PTS, PTSD, etc. It’s really important to educate spouses and first responders on the ways that little things may be signs of something way bigger happening.
• In a partnership, it’s our job to care for one another.
• If someone is exhibiting symptoms of PTS, PTSD, etc. the only thing you can do is manage the symptoms. It comes down to focusing on sleep.
• Everybody’s mind is affected by the life they’ve lived.
• Ask yourself - What are the things you need to function optimally?
• How do we transition veterans from an operative status to living life independently, regardless of their history?
• I want my kids to know that this is a chapter in their story, and they have their whole life ahead of them. It’s a backpack they carry that they’ll never put down. But they’ll do some amazing things in their life.
• Your kids are always watching you. The way they watch you and observe you is the biggest responsibility you have.
• My motto: Live big.

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Can you say “One of the first of two female graduates of the US Army Ranger School and Apache attack helicopter pilot?” Meet this week’s Team Never Quit guest, Shaye Haver. From being a cross country runner and soccer player in high school, to Army brat, to following in her dad’s footsteps as an Apache helicopter pilot, Shaye and Marcus share an engaging conversation about her influences and accomplishments. In 2016, Shaye and Kristen Griest, who also graduated from the US Army Ranger School were ranked 34th on Fortune magazine's list of the World's Greatest Leaders.
In this episode you will hear:

• I grew up as an Army brat which put me in an environment of serving and sacrifice.
• My dad always said, “Go do something better than me.”
• ROTC was the beginning of my understanding that the military was about opportunity. You can make it what you want it to be.
• Good, better, best – Never let it rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
• I absolutely don’t take no for an answer – especially for myself.
• I did not go to West Point because of my intellectual prowess. I went on my leadership and physical fitness abilities.
• Ranger School reminded me that the mission is about the people to the left and right of you.
• Crisis provides opportunity.
• The tactic for success I use is to visualize success.
• The first day one, there was 19 of us; the second day 1, there were 8 of us; the third day one, there were 3 of us.
• I have had my tab ripped off my shoulder two times. Once by another Ranger.
• I choose to walk in the responsibility of bearing this thing that I have earned for the duration of my life. You can let it weigh you down, or you can let it inspire you.
• There’s not a quitting bone in my body.
• The warrior culture is not just for men.
• Heroes come in the most unlikely boxes. They’re all around us and everybody has a story.

Unapologetically American, and an all-around badass - That’s who and what Tim Kennedy is – a true patriot. In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Tim have a fascinating conversation about Tim’s military service as an active Special Forces master sergeant and sniper and his role in the most elite counter-terrorism and hostage rescue unit within the U.S. Army Green Berets. Tim holds a black belt in Brazilian jujitsu and is a former professional mixed martial arts fighter and two-time title challenger. He authored the book, Scars and Stripes, an inspirational memoir offering lessons on how to embrace failure and weather storms to unlock the strongest version of yourself. These days, he lives a remarkable life as a serial entrepreneur owning multiple companies. However, Tim’s most personal accomplishments are that of a husband, father, and lover of this country.
In this episode you will hear:

• When I grew up, all I did was fix the barbed wire and throw Bahia bales.
• You have to be an involved parent and mentor to your child.
• Now, every high school graduate has had every decision made for them. And when they arrive at college, they have been force-fed everything to this point, and now they get fed something much more dangerous – ideas. They’re given the freedom to make their own decisions with those dangerous ideas, and what you have is a petri dish for disaster.
• I want little kids to make all their decisions and learn the consequence of bad decisions, so when they hear someone say something stupid, they’re like, “that doesn’t work.”In Afghanistan they’d “beach ball” babies to the gate with the hopes that some marine would pick them up.
• It’s not rocket science that you don’t move tactical elements before you get your people out. You don’t give up strategic and tactical positions until you’re ready for a proper withdrawal.
• There’s nothing more dangerous than a broken man.
• Jesus didn’t go into the holiest of places. He went to where the prostitutes and tax collectors were.
• I stepped away from God for almost two decades. I became a narcissist. It wasn’t until my marriage was on the rocks that I was convinced to talk to God about all the horrific things I saw & experienced.
• They were throwing money at me to get people out of Afghanistan. That was so wrong in my heart to go back there for the money.
• In ten days we evacuated 12,000 people with our own planes.

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“Life is a gift, that is why they call it the present. Cherish it always.”
That’s the mantra of this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Kevin Hines.
Kevin attempted to take his life by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge. Miraculously, a sea lion kept him afloat until the Coast Guard arrived. He is one of only thirty-six (less than 1%) to survive that fall. He shares his compelling story of hope, healing, and his will to live with Marcus. His story was featured in the 2006 film The Bridge by film director and producer, Eric Steel. Kevin has inspired millions worldwide in the art of wellness and the ability to survive pain with true resilience. “Be here tomorrow...”
In this episode you will hear:

• My biological parents had me on a diet of Kool-Aid, Coca-Cola, and sour milk.
• My parents would leave me and my brother unattended to go score and sell drugs. Then Child Protective Services picked us up and put us in foster care.
• The only time I ever lost faith was when I stood atop the Golden Gate Bridge looking down. I found it on my way down.
• There’s a high number of suicidal teens who went through foster care. Many were abused and neglected by the ones in place to protect them.
• [Marcus] “I think the kids that go through it, are the ones who can fix it.”
• I finally ended up with foster parents who saved my life. They gave me a beautiful childhood.
• At 17 my brain broke. I was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder and then things got completely out of control.
• I had auditory hallucinations telling me I had to die.
• If somebody would have just asked me, I would’ve just told them the truth of my situation.
• I left a suicide note in my backpack because I wanted my family knows I loved them.
• When I was still underwater, I thought, “I’m gonna die here and no one's gonna know I don’t want to. No one's gonna know I made a mistake.”
• On that [Coast Guard] boat, I made a cognitive decision: I would never again attempt to take my life as long as I should live, no matter the pain I’m in.
• When you encounter a suicidal person, it’s about being with them in the moment. “What do you need from me to say here? How can I help keep you on this planet?”
• My new motto is: I’m gonna be here tomorrow, and every day after that, no matter the pain I’m in.
• Every moment of every day is a good moment.
• It’s a privilege to exist.

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In one devastating blow, dreams are shattered. Although this week’s Team Never Quit guest, Cesar Perez, went from rising Hollywood star to miraculously surviving a head-on collision with a drunk driver, he shines brightly with the resilience of the human spirit. Cesar starred alongside Daniel Ratcliff (Harry Potter) in the action thriller Beast of Burden for which he also did graphic design work. He was also cast as a major lead character Javier in the action thriller Blind Trust. Despite his severe brain injury, having his face shattered, and learning how to breathe, walk, and talk again, Cesar lives a life of courage and shows us firsthand that even in the darkest of moments, life has meaning.
In this episode you will hear:

• I did a video tape audition that got me a role with Daniel Ratcliff {Harry Potter}. My life was really on the rise.
• I was driving to see my girlfriend when a drunk driver hit me head-on going over 70mph. He spun me around and then a big rig hit me – also going 70mph, and then I don’t remember anything for the next 2 weeks.
• If life had a reset button, I must have pressed it.
• I was making a statement with my life and then it got cut abruptly.
• I thought if I can get out of this, there’s nothing I can’t do.
• The first thing I said to the guy that hit me was “the last thing I ever wanted to see is someone from my country behind bars.”
• I wanted my life back and no one could give me that back.
• Talking and facing that demon helped me put the period at the end.
• My family never left me – they showed me what true love actually is. That was the love that got me through it.
• My family’s sacrifice gave my life meaning when my life felt meaningless.
• Once I could finally run, I thought “I’m gonna do more”, and that’s what got me back to where I am.
• The drive I had as a kid is more intense now. It was running hot, but now it’s running with a different fire.
• Putting my experience down in words helped me heal.
• As long as there’s breath in me, it’s still possible to live a beautiful life.
• If, in the end, I helped save a life, it was worth it. 

Using the grief of a husband killed in action to fill a void in estate planning for fellow widows. That’s the mantra of this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast guest, Keri Mills. Her transparent story of being a lackluster student to attending law school is inspiring, as she strives to educate other Gold Star families and service members in planning ahead in the event tragedy should strike. Keri’s husband, Special Operations Chief Stephen “Matt” Mills was killed in action along with 29 other Americans and a working dog when their helicopter was shot down in Afghanistan. With one knock on the door and one sentence, Keri went from being a married woman to a widow. Unprepared as she was for that life-changing event, it sparked her decision to help others be better prepared than she was.

In this episode you will hear:

• Standardized tests are not my forte.
• What I realized about who I am is that I’m a person that does what I say I’m gonna do.
• I have worked for 8 ½ years to solve this problem.
• If I can keep someone from having to figure things out – the way I did – it’s worth it to me.
• The stigma that comes with estate planning is that people think you have to have a pot full of money in the bank. That’s not what it’s about at all. It’s about setting up your legacy.
• I don’t have any stories to tell about Matt because they’re not my stories to tell.
• I’m trying to carry on Matt’s legacy.
• There are 300,000 veterans in Houston.
• The part that I see myself playing is education for the special operators and our community.
• [Marcus] “There needs to be a way to teach you how to get out.” 

Welcome to this week’s episode of the Team Never Quit podcast. Today, we are honored to host Bill Wagasy, a decorated U.S. Navy SEAL veteran, former Notre Dame football player, and current VP of national sales for Commonwealth Land Title Company. Bill's journey from the gridiron to the battlefield and beyond is nothing short of extraordinary.
In college, Bill played as a reserve outside linebacker under Coach Lou Holtz, and harnessed the lasting influence of Coach Holtz’s relentless pursuit of excellence. Post-college, Bill pursued a law degree and a master’s in dispute resolution from Pepperdine University. However, driven by a deep sense of duty, Bill joined the Navy and became a Navy SEAL, completing four combat tours between 2002 and 2012—three in Iraq and one in Afghanistan. His specialties included lead sniper, lead breacher, JTAC, and lead navigator.
After his military career, Bill discusses the transition to civilian life and working with the Gary Sinise Foundation, and the importance of resilience, duty, and honor in his life and career.
We are deeply grateful to Bill Wagasy for sharing his powerful story. His unwavering dedication to service and the indomitable spirit he embodies serve as an inspiration to us all.

In This Episode You Will Hear:
• The first time she [my sister] ever did Boston [marathon] was the year of the bombing. That was the first public event I ever went to when I got out of the SEAL teams. (16:08)

• I feel like a wonderful, all-American upbringing. (22:28)

• My coach [at Notre Dame] was coach [Lou] Holtz. (27:43)
• One of the greatest things I can say about him [Coach Lou Holtz] – He brought an intensity and a passion every single day for five years I was there. He never had an off day. (27:57)
• Do what’s right. It’s not right to find your teammate’s wallet before he loses it. (28:52)
• The way you show people you care – is if your part of a team, you have to put forth incredible effort and mental focus. Do your best in every single facet, from execution and preparation. (29:17)
• Every day, you’ve gotta bring it. (29:51)
• There’s nothing that anybody could’ve ever said to me when I was going through SEAL training that would have the effect of what Coach Holtz said to me. (32:42)
• There’s a huge jump between having a dream, and having the courage to follow it. (43:57)
• While we were in sniper school, that’s when Operation Red Wings went down. (69:20)
• When they found you [Marcus Luttrell] it was like a miracle, like no one could believe that you were alive. It was bittersweet because we lost everybody else. (81:46)
• Our fastest sniper rifle shoots about 3,000 feet per second, and an explosive goes somewhere around 12,000 to 25,000 feet per second. (95:02)
• I was in a vehicle rollover where I shattered my right wrist, and had a level 5 shoulder separation on my left side. I was in the hospital for ten days. (103:59)
• He (Gary Sinise) truly lived the example of “We can never do enough for our veterans, but we can always do a little bit more.” (131:10)
• If you were to ask me what 2 years I would never want to repeat again in my life, it’s the 2 years transitioning out of the military into the private sector and starting from scratch at 42 years old.
• I had 1 superpower in BUDS and that was taking cold water and just splattering everybody. (156:24)

“A government-trained predator.” That’s one description of this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast guest, Jay Dobyns. While he participated in hundreds of undercover operations as a federal agent, he is best known for getting past multiple layers of security and becoming a member of the Hells Angels. Jay's book about that investigation - No Angel, My Harrowing Undercover Journey to the Inner Circle of the Hells Angels - is a New York Times and international bestseller. Dobyns served as a federal agent for twenty-seven years and was driven to succeed at any cost without regard for himself.
These days, Jay has gone from a life of daring, undercover operations to becoming a High School football coach in Tucson, Arizona. Listen in as Jay and Marcus share an engaging conversation about Jay’s encounters and adventures.
In this episode you will hear:

• The entertainment industry gets second takes.  If they miss a line, they can try again. In real life, there are no second chances.
• I feel very blessed to have entered undercover work. Nothing really prepares you until you get out there and get your feet wet.
• I’ve bought pea shooters, rocket launchers, bombs, homemade PVC pipe bombs, and servo-activated C4.
• I infiltrated home invasion crews. That’s where I got my training to take on the Hells Angels.
• I didn’t always succeed at things, but I always tried.
• My undercover persona eventually became who I was.
• I made a million mistakes in my life, and my wife and family have given me one million and one second chances.
• We fabricated the murder of a Hells Angels rival, and that is when I was welcomed into the organization.
• I ruined everything for the mission. It was heartbreaking to see what I had done to get there.
• God does not build us to intentionally betray people.
• My agency failed to react to threats against me. I was told “You’re on your own.”
• When no one cares who gets credit for success, we’re on to something.
• Want someone to remember your name? You’re gonna have to do something they will never forget.
• If you want something you’ve never had before, you’re gonna have to do things you’ve never done before.
• Life is about making mistakes, but don’t remake mine - I can tell you how they turn out. It’s not good. 

A path to healing from invisible wounds. That’s the mantra for today’s Team Never Quit guests, Retired Air Force Senior Master Sergeant John “Spike” Garcia and Marine Clayton "Clay" Cook from The Lone Survivor Foundation. Their sole purpose is to support veterans after their service to this great country. They’re teaching strategies to manage Post-traumatic Stress, Mild Traumatic Brain Injury, and chronic pain – taking back your life.

The Lone Survivor Foundation offers both Face-to-Face & Virtual Programs, at no cost. All it takes is for you to be ready to take the next step on your journey. Once the Service Member has attended an Individual Program, couples and their families can qualify for the program as well. Service Members (both active duty and Veterans) from all military branches and service eras, experiencing symptoms as a result of service are eligible.
In this episode you will hear:

• How the Lone Survivor Foundation and Team Never Quit go hand-in-hand
• The Lone Survivor Foundation provides a holistic approach to treatment and addresses the entire family.
• It’s the only program that does Accelerated Resolution Therapy. "I got more out of it in three hours than I had in 18 years."
• The spouse is the first one that is affected by what the veteran is going through, followed by family members and friends, and the ripple effect can affect businesses and coworkers as well.
• Once the vet goes through the treatment, the spouse & family can assist in their recovery. 
• Q: How do you know if you’re a good fit for the program?
  A: Go to LoneSurvivorFoundation.org and take a self-assessment. You don’t have to be diagnosed, you only need to be suffering from symptoms. 

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Still in the fight of his life – for his life. That’s the real-life story of this week’s Team Never Quit guest, Chris Cathers, a former US Army Green Beret and CIA paramilitary Global Response Staff (GRS) contractor with 12 deployments to Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine and North Africa.
And if Chris’ PTS struggles weren’t enough, Chris speaks openly about the stage 4 bone cancer he has had for over a year. Struggling to find adequate medical care opened his eyes to the difficulty of finding the right team for any aspect of medicine, and he has dedicated himself to encouraging his military brothers and sisters to seek help immediately and not downplay the signs.

Chris and his business partner Daniel also aim to raise awareness of the veteran suicide epidemic via a documentary, “Brother’s Keeper”, currently in production. Chris has established a nonprofit organization to help raise funds for a small number of other nonprofit and for-profit businesses, committed to giving our veterans a hand in their fight.
In this episode you will hear:

• At one time, I was feeling really good. I was doing protection for celebrities for 5 years, as well as Jiu-Jitsu, MMA, and lifting a lot.
• My femur was compromised to the point that I was close to snapping it.
• I always prepare myself for the worst and hope for the best.
• You have to advocate for yourself, or you won’t have a good success rate.
• Unfortunately with what I’ve got, radiation & chemo doesn’t work. It’s more of a Hail Mary.
• My wife calls me a cockroach. “Man, this guy’s stubborn.”
• Sports is what kept me on the right path.
• I feel like a sheepdog – I like to keep the wolves at bay.
• I really enjoy protecting people.
• If I would redline my body, all the “noise” would settle down.
• Doing something bigger than you has always been a calling for me.
• Initially, my outlook wasn’t great - 29% and the 5-year survival rate wasn’t good.
• I’m a patriot and I love our country, I think we’re the best country on the planet, but we’re doing our damnedest to fuck it up. That’s not acceptable to me.
• We didn’t think we could have children, 1 - I’m old as dirt and I’m stage 4. So we were not planning on having a child, but…
• Comparison is the thief of joy. 

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In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus brings in a real “Top Gun” – A badass Navy fighter pilot and an incredible investment powerhouse – both the same guy – Matthew “Whiz” Buckley. You’ll have to hang on to your seat when you hear him share his real, firsthand experiences and record-setting flights in Navy fighter jets. Buckley has harnessed the principles of military strategies and applied them to investments and trading success. “Buckle up, buttercup…”
In this episode you will hear:

• I was raised with the belief that the American Dream was real and I could achieve anything I wanted to be as long as I applied myself, worked hard, and cared for others.
• I loved my country, the ocean and flying so I set out to become a navy fighter pilot.
• Every landing aboard the ship is graded. The mission is secondary to coming back because you’ve got 5,000 people watching you.
• I flew an acceptance flight in a new Hornet, and I did some unbelievable things with it, although I didn’t have too much time to enjoy it because all of a sudden the engines were gasping for air.
• When you’re moving that fast, all your wrinkles go away.
• At Mach 1.7 I thought, “I should be pulling out of this dive.” At that speed, I can’t eject. I’d be vaporized.
• When you make a decision, the computers go “If he does that, we’re gonna disintegrate, and we don’t want to do that.”
• We put our dog tags in our boots because in aviation accidents, that’s usually all that’s left.
• The jet’s a tattletale. It’s all electronic. Your superiors know how hard you pushed it.
• You can teach people a lot of stuff, but you can’t teach ‘em leadership.
• In a debrief, there ain’t no ”we” or ”us”. There’s only “I”.
• If you sat in a fighter pilot debrief, you’d think we hated each other. It not who’s right, it’s what’s right.
• Save the apple polishing for the bar – we’re in a debrief.
• A big leadership moment is when I was told “I could be friendly with you, but we’re not friends.”
• The Navy does a great job of teaching us to compartmentalize. If Marcus gets smoked, I’ll mourn him later, and guess what? I don’t get to mourn him later, ‘cause it’s on to the next thing.
• On the medicine, my dad & my sister, who was killed by a drunk driver, were both there. They looked incredible. In that moment, I healed.
• Forgiveness doesn’t exist in heaven, because there’s no need for it.

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In this week's episode, we're joined by Dr. Martín Polanco and Marine Ryan Roberts to discuss the clinical psychedelic program specializing in the use of Ibogaine, 5-MeO-DMT, and Psilocybin that is being used to treat veterans and their family members.

Dr. Martín Polanco has been successfully treating people with traumatic brain injury, PTSD, depression, anxiety, and addiction using psychedelic medicines for over a decade. He is the founder of The Mission Within, a clinical program in Mexico and Costa Rica helping veterans with issues resulting from military service experiences. His mission is to conduct research to prove its effectiveness – with the end goal of its legalization. Marcus speaks from his first-hand experience with Dr. Polanco’s treatment, in an effort to educate and make psychedelic therapy available to every veteran that needs it. 
In this episode you will hear:

• We do psychic surgery.
• [Melanie] “It’s like a car wash for your brain.”
• So many people come out of the medicine and we wanna get on the biggest mountain and yell: “C’mon, we can help.”
• My dad was a hippie and involved with some peyote circles.
• At 21, I had an experience with mushrooms, and everything I saw was infused with source energy.
• There is a delusional mindset where people can justify their drug use.
• [Marcus] “The best joy you’ll ever have is in gratitude.”
• [Melanie] “The medicine took a lot of walls down.”
• [Melanie] “We were unbreakable before, but now we’re an unstoppable force.”
• If we can heal the veteran, we can heal the home.

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In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus has an entertaining conversation with Caleb Francis, a hilariously funny content creator on TikTok who has over 1.5 million fans and over 36 million likes. Caleb has built a brand reaching the globe via Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, and Cameo. He has a blast doing what he does – speaking his mind with a humorous perspective. Caleb also shares valuable information on getting started in that arena and tells the listener how anyone can get their voice out there, regardless of who they are or where they live.
In this episode you will hear:

• I got my first computer at 9 or 10, although I was never much of a computer person.
• Watching your favorite personality is like someone watching Netflix, but it’s someone you can interact with.
• [Marcus] “There’s only a few people that can get away with talking smack: Comedians and the Military.”
• My favorite parts of childhood were technology, treehouses, and camping, but we were still nerds, too. We did both.
• My videos are usually brought on by something I’m doing in life.
• If you want to get started, make the TikTok and post whatever you’re doing. It will be recycled onto every other platform there is.
• We would do stupid stuff like getting hurt and film it. Then we’d do skits. I just kept doing it after everyone moved away.
• I’d get inspiration from delivering parts for Advance Auto Parts.
• I’d get ideas just by talking to myself.
• I would observe everyday stuff and imagine what was being said and thought, and develop that.
• Videos are endless. They just keep coming, like recommendation videos.
• When my friends and I watched Talladega Nights, we were losing our minds laughing so hard.

In this week’s riveting episode, Marcus has a fascinating discussion with Eric O’Neill, former FBI counter-terrorism and counterintelligence operative. Eric played a major role in the arrest, conviction, and imprisonment of one of the most notorious spies in U.S. history - FBI agent Robert Hanssen - who was spying on behalf of the Soviet Union and Russia. Eric’s first-hand accounts of some of his day-to-day activities are events that movies are made of. He has written about his experiences in Gray Day: My Undercover Mission to Expose America's First Cyber Spy. Eric is also a public speaker and security expert who lectures internationally about espionage and national security, cybersecurity, fraud, corporate diligence and defense, hacking, and other topics.  
In this episode you will hear:

• My job at the FBI was to go undercover. I never came out of cover.
• There were foreign intelligence officers (spies) who sometimes were some of our own who were spying for other countries.
• My father told me “You have to chase your dreams, whatever they might be.”
• I’m going to stop spies & terrorists before they kill our citizens.
• I was at Quantico [Marine Corps Training Base]. You earn it and you feel like you earned it.
• When my wife and I were dating and people would ask me what I do, I would say “I work for the Justice Department as a Geo-Political Analyst.” That would immediately end the inquiry.
• There was an instance where a high-level spy was about to be arrested, and disappear, which told us there was a mole in our intelligence community.
• The FBI went on a 22-year manhunt for a guy code-named Gray Suit, the biggest spy in U.S. history.
• Each time you go after somebody who might be the target you’re after, you give them a derivative code name.
• What made Robert Hanssen such a successful spy, is that he was a hacker. He learned how to break into computer systems.
• When the FBI had not given him the role he wanted, he volunteered his services to the Russians and gave up 2 of our top spies in Russia for no money to prove he had access. One of them was executed, and the other was sentenced to hard labor.
• Analysts are the cream of the crop in figuring out how to catch spies.
• Hanssen was the best, most notorious spy in US history. He was the Michael Jordan of the spy world. Nobody did the damage he did.
• I was always a bit of a hacker – fascinated by computer systems. Breaking security, not to steal, but so I could understand how to make them stronger.
• My mother holds the record for the most time watching the movie “Breach.”

“Go One More.” That’s the Nick Bare mantra. That’s his way of life. Nick Bare is this week’s Team Never Quit guest, and he’s encouraging us all to: 

• work one more hour on your business…
• make one more sales call…
• run one more mile…
• one more set at the gym…
• one more chapter you read…

The magic starts to happen when you “Go One More.” From meager beginnings, founding Bare Performance Nutrition in 2012 out of his college apartment while studying nutrition to being commissioned into the US Army as an Infantry Officer, Nick learned the values of leadership, integrity and team building.
His biggest passion in life is helping people reach their greatest potential, because most of us severely underestimate our capabilities. Listen in as Nick Bare shares his life’s journey with Marcus and Morgan. Success requires uncompromising consistency.
In this episode you will hear:

• When I first started my business, it was Christmas every morning. There was so much passion in it.
• There’ve been so many highs and lows, it’s been amazingly rewarding
• I told my dad, I’m gonna take out this loan, and I’m gonna make a million dollars my first year. His response was, “If it was that easy, everyone would be doing it.”
• I didn’t take a paycheck from my business for five years.
• My original plan was to be a chicken farmer.
• When you get your first win, it builds your level of confidence.
• [Marcus] The minute you get the idea to do something, the good Lord gives you what you need to be it.
• Running in the mornings and evenings, I have complete solitude – no distractions.
• My best business ideas have come during my morning runs.
• Sometimes you’re lucky enough to turn your passion into a career.
• Success is a result of compounded consistency.
• When you want to quit, just show up and keep going.
• You’ll finally push past your goal with the “one more” mentality.

How does one go from Martial Arts to owning a manufacturing business? Just ask this week’s TNQ Podcast guest, Pete Roberts. He realized that in Martial Arts, the same uniform had been used for over 200 years, so Pete created his own opportunity to build a fresh brand of Jiu Jitsu wearables. He wanted to have control over research and development, textiles, and the design process, and because he knew that Franklin County in Maine had a rich manufacturing heritage, he took action. But his endeavor was seemingly derailed as Pete could not find a U.S. manufacturer who could create his unique line of products.
What to do? Pete decided to take matters into his own hands – literally. He built a manufacturing warehouse - spinning yarn, weaving fabrics, textiles, and designs, and began sewing his own line of uniforms and began his marketing efforts with simple, low budget ads.
Pete’s company, Origin USA, now has multiple manufacturing facilities, incorporating the ancestry of manufacturing, hiring the older generation and millennials alike. This is the true American entrepreneur spirit at its finest.
In this episode you will hear: • My wife and I have been together since we were 16. You do that by buying into each other’s personal goals and ambitions. • I use my ADHD as a superpower. • I’ve used the tools of Jiu Jitsu - timing, leverage, opportunity and applied it to reinventing gear for it. • I started with old, cast iron sewing machines, and no bathroom. • If you embrace the power of the American spirit, you can truly do anything. • Corporate greed chose profit over people. • If we can own the supply chain, we can protect it. • [Morgan] You brought something that was lost and brought it back to life. • Some folks will invest $75,000 in a vehicle. Why not invest that money in yourself? If you have an idea or a dream, don’t be scared of the unknown. • The single most valuable thing is keeping a singleness of purpose. Stay focused on one thing and be great at it. • I know that what we are doing hasn’t been done in 100 years. It’s not unique – it’s hard. • People are born every day that will be more talented than you, but what they don’t have is the ambition to go all in and invest in themselves. • Be a savage of the body, a pioneer of the heart, and an operator of the mind.

For some people, hardships inspire them to do great things. Such is the case with this week’s Team Never Quit guest, Brooke Keaton. She is a Gold Star wife, as the result of her Navy SEAL husband, Charlie being killed in action in Afghanistan. Brooke is the Vice President of The C4 Foundation, which provides neuroscience programs for Navy SEAL families at their San Diego-based ranch. She and her friend Tara Crenshaw have also launched The Gold Star and Stripes Podcast, bringing awareness to the spouse’s military life and now life as civilians.

Listen in as Brooke speaks from the heart about her challenging life journey and her relentless pursuit of helping others.
In this episode you will hear:

• If I were in a movie, my animal sidekick would be an elephant.
• As pets go, dogs are the best.
• Charlie always had to go wherever the fun was, so it was exhausting but so fun. He lived a mile a minute.
• We lived on a boat, and every morning, Charlie would jump in the water and go surf.
• Charlie was very passionate about his family.
• Charlie was a sniper on a roof fighting against ISIS and was shot near his heart, and continued shooting and holding his ground until he died.
• The Gold Star community in Virginia Beach is very tight-knit and immediately pulled me in.
• I thought: “How can we support other Navy SEAL families?” We ended up with a 560-acre ranch, where families can “decompress” after deployment. Fly fish, hike, ride horses, etc.
• I’m able to talk about Charlie every day. It’s helpful and therapeutic for me to talk about him.
• We came up with a fun idea of the podcast to help other spouses as a sisterhood - to network with families where you can find any help with anything you may need.
• I want to bring everyone together and build relationships.

Conquering Fear and Leading with Courage: Insights from Retired Navy SEAL Stephen Kaplan
Welcome to this week’s episode of the Team Never Quit Podcast, where Marcus & Melanie Luttrell dive deep into the realms of leadership, courage, and strategic thinking with an extraordinary guest. Today, we are honored to have Stephen Kaplan, a retired Navy SEAL, keynote speaker, business consultant, and leadership expert. Stephen has dedicated over 20 years to mastering tactics, organizational leadership, strategic thinking, and professional team building. After his illustrious military career as a Navy SEAL, he has been transforming corporations, teams, and individuals through his insights and expertise.
Stephen shares his perspective on what it truly means to be courageous, emphasizing that being "fearless" is an illusion. True courage is about facing and conquering fears.
Steve's adventure business, Trident Adventures is located in Honolulu, Hawaii. The company specializes in leadership and team-building experiences that offer an adventure of a lifetime. Learn how these adventures provide teams with a unique edge in leadership development.
Whether you’re looking to enhance your leadership skills, build stronger teams, or simply get inspired by a story of transformation, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways.

Resources and Links:
TridentAdventures.com
LinkedIn: Stephen Kaplan

In this episode you will hear:
• After I Graduated High School, I went to Bible College to be a Pastor. I felt was that’s where I was supposed to be. That was calling on my life. (5:32)
• [Marcus] Q: What was the one thing in BUDS that got you?
A: I put a stick through my forearm on the obstacle course. (15:34)
• [On the obstacle course] my heart’s pumping like crazy. I’m excited.  I’m in BUDS. There’s 300 guys and I’m thinking I’m gonna be the guy that doesn’t quit, and I throw myself over the wall, and when I hop off the other end of it, I hear a snap. (17:06)
• The next obstacle was the high wall with the rope, so I go to grab it, and my hand doesn’t work. I look at my arm and there was a big stick sticking through. (17:28)
• I didn’t know how to swim when I signed up. (21:21)
• You’ll become a good swimmer at BUDS, for sure, but you won’t become a good runner at BUDS. You’ll get worse.  (22:34)
• I blew out my ear drum really bad.  They had to cut my ear off, and replace the membrane in my ear with a skin graft. (26:54)
• On the second day of hell week, I stepped in a hole in the sand and I hyperextended my knee and tore a bunch of stuff in my knee and ankle. Now I’ve got a bum leg, I’m in day 2 of hell week, and I had such a bad infection in my ear, that it actually rotted a hole in my   tympanic membrane. (28:20)
• I do not look like the type of person that should be lifting the type of weights I can lift. (50:55)
• [After having shortness of breath and chest pain for days, I was commanded to go to the ER] They do all the x-rays and all the blood tests, and the doctor says, “How long have you had these symptoms?” “5 days, I think.” “You’re supposed to be dead.” (55:47)
• I had to have 2 nurses hold me up, because if laid down, I’d pass out and die. My friends came by to say goodbye. I ended up not dying. (56:26)
• I was a SEAL tech advisor for Hawaii 5-O, Magnum PI and a couple of other shows. (58:44)

• Everybody has fear, Team guys have fear. We’re not fearless. What we do is that we overcome our fear because we have courage. Courage is not the lack of fear, it’s what you do in the face of fear. (62:35)

• We’re the only operation [Trident Adventures] – I think in the world – that’s allowed to have civilians jump out of a helicopter into the ocean or a body of water. (63:28)
• I used to love free diving, but I lost most of my lungs when I had the pulmonary embolism, so my breath hold now is embarrassing – maybe 30 seconds. (64:32)
• [Marcus] In SEAL teams, we will name something funny like Seal Transport Device (STD). 65:11)
• I choose to take my previous chapter of my life, and thru my entrepreneurship and my company and how I conduct myself. Through my integrity and my character I want to be that guy that makes people look at the teams in a higher regard because of how I carry myself. (73:33)

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A man on a mission. That is this week’s Team Never Quit guest, Marine veteran Brian Tally. What started out as sudden, severe back pain quickly became an incredible life-threatening ordeal he endured for years after a bad diagnosis at a VA hospital emergency room. His spine was being eaten alive by what turned out to be a tissue-eating staph infection. Because of a law enacted in 1946, Brian was unable to sue for malpractice as the law did not allow independent contractors at the VA facility to be sued. But by the time the VA suggested he pursue legal action in a state court, the state’s statute of limitations had just expired. What to do? If you’re Brian Tally - with no legal background - you draft your own legislative bill and go door-to-door on Capitol Hill until the procedural loophole is closed, ensuring that VA is transparent and fully accountable. https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/4526
 In this episode you will hear:

• It was a cold, gloomy morning when I couldn’t get out of bed, in severe pain – pain I can’t describe - after feeling normal when I went to bed.
• I’m not anti-VA but I was one of those veterans that slipped through the cracks.
• The only time I ever saw a doctor was when I was laying open on an operating table four months later, and they found a surprise – my spine was oozing with inflammation.
• I was so doped up and in so much pain, I didn’t even know what was going on. I spent four months in my chair. I became an absolute broken man.
• The doctor told my wife. “Your husband’s spine looks like it’s been moth-eaten.”
• I was being eaten alive for four straight months, before finally having life-saving surgery.
• By then my physical, mental, and emotional health was gone.
• I have never slandered anyone. I have only operated in an honorable way. I would never dishonorably yell someone’s name. Because we all make mistakes.
• I had to operate in a different way than I was being treated.
• Just when I thought they would do the right thing, the VA did an about face, and they left me and my family holding the bag.
• My wife is the glue that holds everything together.
• There are tens of thousands of veterans, who have been destroyed by this egregious practice from a 1946 law.
• The VA is using more and more independent contractors to see their way out of malpractice cases.
• I went to my bathtub and I knelt down and said “God I’m about to expose made men, and I’m gonna need You for the strength and endurance to draft my own bill – my own solution. I was in a place I knew nothing about.
• The never quit mentality is what kept me going.
• I was representing 20.2 million American veterans with my bill.
• That’s what God has led me to be and to do. 
• You can engage congress and make a difference.
• I know I’m where God wants me to be.

Backcountry hunting, anyone? If ever a man wanted to discover what it takes to become an elite man – mentally, physically, and spiritually tough, training for such a high-end hunt may just be the ticket. This week’s Team Never Quit Guest, Dustin Diefenderfer, explains in detail the grueling athletic training and grit it takes to hunt Deer, Elk, Moose, or Caribou In the backcountry. If you’re looking for an easy way to get there, stay home. When the hunt experience is over, you’re left with the mental and physical ability to reach your personal and professional goals by applying the principles learned in this endeavor – a better life by learning to be comfortable in being uncomfortable.
In this episode you will hear:

• Getting comfortable being uncomfortable is teaching men to handle adversity.
• If you can handle adversity in the gym, you can handle it better in the field. If you can handle it in the field, you can handle it a lot better at home.
• When you’re more used to adversity and spend more time outdoors, it makes for a better man.
• If you’re fortunate enough to harvest an animal on a backcountry hunt, you’re coming out with 80-100 pounds per trip for 3 or 4 trips.
• Adversity building is one baby step after another. It makes you way tougher than you used to be.
• It’s cool looking back on God’s footsteps that have brought us to creating Mountain Tough.
• You don’t need to chase the corporate America stuff; You don‘t need to do what everyone else is doing.
• Living in Africa taught us not to worry so much about money & finances. The people living there with nothing are pretty happy. They’re not distracted like Americans are, with cell phones and the like.
• I knew I was gonna do something I was passionate about, and I knew I would do something outside, away from the computer, and engage with building a community.
• When we’re going thru something stressful, God looks at us like “Do you realize that what you’re looking at right now is ‘this big’ in the grand scheme of life.”
• We went to Ethiopia on a short mission trip and worked for two weeks where kids lived, slept, and ate in a landfill all day long. It was complete re-entry depression after watching those kids live in the dump.
• They would rescue the child soldiers and teach them some life skills.
• We’re creating elite men.

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A CEO with PTSD. That encapsulates the world of this week’s Team Never Quit guest, Brian Reese. Here’s a military veteran entrepreneur serving other military veterans – over 15,000 vets needing a vast array of help – mental, disability ratings, compensation, and more. Brian, Marcus, and Morgan get “in the weeds’ as it relates to maximizing many forms of help for the veteran through his program, VA Claims Insider. Listen in to Brian’s vulnerable revelations of his personal challenges, and his ability to overcome and create a company whose prime directive is to teach and serve others. It’s okay not to be okay…
In this episode you will hear:

• I’m sort of an amateur singer/songwriter.
• A lot of vets have never filed a claim because they think “I’m not that disabled. Others have it worse, so I don’t deserve these benefits.” That’s complete bullsh*t.
• There’s a mental barrier we have about getting help.
• One of the core values of the Air Force is “service before self”. That doesn’t mean service at the expense of self.
• If you can’ take care of anybody else, then you’re no good to the mission.
• It takes less than 5 minutes to get yourself enrolled in VA health care.
• Get a medical diagnosis of your condition ASAP.
• First and foremost: Get yourself in VA health care, get a primary care provider, and get your stuff medically diagnosed in a medical record.
• We’re trying to meet the military veteran before they even take off the uniform, then serve them at every point of life.
• If I were king for a day, I would completely gut and overhaul the VA disability system. I’d take the word disability out of it. I would call Elon Musk, and ask him to come help me solve our problems.
• Government organizations are not built for radical innovation.
• It’s never too late to take advantage of everything veterans have worked for.
• The VA disability process & the VA benefits process is never over unless you quit.

How does a near-fatal parachute accident equate to becoming an entrepreneur? Ask this week’s Team Never Quit guest, Travis Wilson. He served 21 years in the U.S. Army as a Green Beret and in the Special Forces. When his chute’s canopy collapsed and he “burned in,” Travis spent his recovery time developing his own line of supplement products. Listen in as Travis tells of his life transitions; his successes and failures. From a broken back, knee replacements and over a dozen surgeries to launching Alpha Elite Performance and serving as an Ambassador for the Green Beret Foundation, Travis is a picture of motivation and perseverance. Check it out.
In this episode you will hear: • I was on a free-fall team the majority of my military career. • On a night jump, the right side of my canopy collapsed. I was a right below 500’, so there’s no pulling reserve – just pray. • I thought I had landed on a fence post. I broke my back, so I felt like I was impaled. • I went to school for Exercise Science. But did I graduate? No, because “I’m not gonna miss this war.” • I was an Army Medic. • I stated a non-profit – Alpha Elite Performance. It’s a way for me to give back to veterans. • My dad didn’t care if I failed or I succeeded, as long as I tried. • My dad’s attitude was: “You’re not gonna grow up and quit.” • When I got hurt, I thought I was gonna get kicked out, so that’s when I started my nutrition company. • It’s a super challenge owning your own business. • I was a security manager for Five Finger Death Punch, because I had a medical background.  • I lost 2 wives and 2 Harleys.

Need a clear decision-maker in high-stress military operations critical to the defense of the United States? Then this week's Team Never Quit guest, Todd Deghetto, is your man. After 30 years as a Navy SEAL officer in Naval Special Warfare, Todd's current mission is to develop future leaders in mental toughness, discipline, & building collaborative teams. Todd, Marcus, and Morgan share an engaging conversation including actual mission details, its personal & mental ramifications, and the steps to recovery. Everyone on Todd’s team has a purpose.
In this episode you will hear:

• It doesn’t matter what people think about you. Do what’s right, regardless of the consequences. If you lose friends over it, they weren’t true friends.
• Having a dad as a New Jersey State Trooper, I learned about the evil in this world, and I learned about honor – doing what’s right.
• That’s the nice thing about diving without O2. If you gotta die, that’s the way to go, because you just fall asleep.
• [In combat] You get real good at completely cutting your head off from the rest of your body - No feelings, no emotion, and no pain. I truly didn’t start processing stuff until after I was done.
• When things are going sideways is when people show their true colors.
• When I returned, God put it on my heart to mentor the next generation.
• I’m a leadership coach & mentor for the University of Tennessee’s MBA program. I may not have the business expertise, but I’ve got a lot of leadership experience.
• The only way you’re gonna get better is to be able to say “this is mine.” This I made that decision, and this is why I made that decision.
• We learn more from our mistakes than we ever do when things go right.
• I took me several weeks after I returned - and all of a sudden I woke up one day feeling like a huge weight had been lifted off my shoulders.
• All the explosives, the blasts, the mortars, the rockets, the charges, the AC4’s – the damage done to the brain is devastating.
• The healing journey has been the hardest thing for me. Part of that journey is not quitting om my family.
• [In military leadership] We’re very good at controlling everything we can control.
• There’s psychedelics treatment out there to really help us guys. My initial thought was “no way”, but it truly helped me.

The human will to survive can't be underestimated. That's the mantra of this week's Team Never Quit guest, Kara Chamberlain. While watering plants in the front yard of a friend's house, Kara was kidnapped at gunpoint by a serial killer. She was only 15. Making mental notes of every detail along the way in her abductor's car - from memorizing the serial number of the large storage bin he forced her into to counting the turns he made, the music he played, his Marlboro Red cigarettes, details from within his apartment while handcuffed and gagged, Kara used every bit of it to her benefit. She not only escaped after 18 hours, but the details she recalled helped catch him. Kara's case also helped police link the killer to three unsolved murders in other states.
These days, Kara's life is dedicated to spreading hope and strength to other survivors.
In this episode you will hear:

• We all have the ability to turn negatives into positives
• Volunteering to go outside and water the plants made me a victim of opportunity.
• When that red flag hit me, I felt a gun pressed to the side of my neck.
• He was fact-gathering about me, and I was doing the same about him.
• We can decide if we pick up the offense to something or pick up strength.
• You’re either going to be defined by something that happens to you, or you’re going to be refined by it.
• I was praying non-stop: “Help me to find an opportunity to escape.”
• When it was over, I just wanted to go back to normal life – The life of a 15-year old girl.
• The biggest threat to kids these days is online predators.
• Have an open communication & dialog with your children. Teach them how to set boundaries and how to respect other people’s boundaries.
• The best thing we can do for our children is to give them tools to deal with anything bad that happens. “I will never get mad at you.”
• “Stranger Danger” is not the biggest threat to kids right now.
• [Melanie] “The inspirational thing is not that you just survived and moved on – it’s that you helped others. That’s the difference between being a survivor and being a hero.”
• I’ve always felt that what happened to me was so I could help other people. 

From mild-mannered High School math teacher to UFC Hall of Famer. That’s this week’s Team Never Quit special guest, Rich Franklin. Rich and Marcus kick it around in an entertaining discussion about the transition from teaching high school math to UFC fighting on a world-class level. His childhood days of taking Karate lessons brought about an interest in Thai Boxing and Jiu-Jitsu, which further developed into a full-time MMA fighting career. Rich has also coached in The Ultimate Fighter, launched a clothing brand, a juice café, and is a prime example of one classy dude. Nice guys can finish first.
In this episode you will hear:

• I didn’t grow up being an amazing athlete.
• I’m not super explosive, but I can grind.
• Mathematics, like being a sniper, is a skill. You have to work at it.
• If you take the grind away from me, then what am I? This grind, this work ethic I have, is not just the way I work out; it’s the way I approach everything in life.
• When you start worrying about things outside of your circle of control, it’ll take you away from your goals.
• When you’re fighting somebody on the street that’s not trained, I feel like Neo in the Matrix. When they throw a punch, it’s so slow to me.
• Q: What’s your favorite cheat meal?  A: What’s a cheat meal?
• I don’t deal well with disrespect, inefficiency, or stupidity.
• I like being challenged.
• I’ve never used drugs in my life. I’ve never even had a sip of alcohol.
• Had my college professor not actually cared, I could’ve folded. He saved me.
• You never know when a small gesture helps somebody.
• I don’t think I would be in this place in my life without God. He’s really directed my path.

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She never made it to the party. Every parent’s nightmare happened to this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast guest, Angela Rose. At 17, she was walking to her car after leaving work at a mall and was headed to a graduation party. Angela was abducted at knifepoint by a man with a long criminal history, including murder. In this week’s episode, she recounts the details of her horrific experience, fearing death, hands bound, and eyes covered. Angela survived her kidnapping, sexual assault and currently uses her t to usher in legislation, education, and action to shatter the silence of sexual violence. Triumph over tragedy.
In this episode you will hear:

• I’m letting people know that there is joy after trauma, and a happy joyful life is absolutely possible.
• It was broad daylight when I was kidnapped at knifepoint.
• He stalked me and was watching me at the mall.
• Follow your gut instinct.
• The detectives didn’t believe me, and so the trauma was replaced by anger.
• This is not a women’s issue. This impacts all genders.
• I keep hearing “I never told anybody.”
• We train parents and teachers on what to do or say if someone discloses.
• Be careful not to use language that blames the victim.
• Many people don’t know how to deal with traumatic situations.
• I would never wish what happened to me on anybody, but I would never change it.
• Because of what happened to me, I learned an inner strength I didn’t know existed.
• We need to support each other to rise above adversity.

This week’s incredible guest – Mike Ettore – knows the way, and shows the way. Being the exceptional leader that he is, Mike became the youngest Drill Instructor in the Marine Corps at the age of 20. There’s not a personal or professional challenge he can’t overcome.

Mike’s effective combat leadership style resulted in numerous awards and decorations during his career, including the Bronze Star Medal for Valor (with Gold Star denoting 2nd award) and the Combat Action Ribbon (with two Gold Stars denoting 2nd and 3rd awards).

These days, his purpose is to teach, coach, and help leaders develop - while he’s alive and after he’s gone.
In this episode you will hear:

• I graduated from my first recruit platoon when I was 20.
• The Marine Corps trusted me and I tried very hard to live up to that trust.
• I spent my whole career trying to live up to the legacy of the Marines in World War I.
• If there’s something the Marine Corps does well is it teaches and honors its history and traditions.
• We were considered by the battalion commander, to be the strongest lieutenant/staff sergeant team in the battalion. It’s all about trust
• I was more excited about being an equally good leader in business as I was in the Marine Corps.
• Pre 9-11, I was dragging an AR-15 in a case through the airport.
• I was a C-level officer in charge of most of the back office of the non-sales function for a billion-dollar company, with no expertise in any of it. I wasn’t really sure how to save a file.
• I teach and coach senior executives in the art & science of leadership.
• I’m 65 years old and have unlimited energy. I just love it.
• At 65 years old, with over 45 years of teaching leadership, I still learn something every week. I ask myself: ”How in the hell have I gone this long and never heard that?”
• I am vain enough that to think that 25, 50, 80 years from now - if somebody picks my book up,  the Iwo Jima lessons, the Grenada lessons, and the business lesson I’ve learned, just might help out my great, great-grandson or daughter, who never met me.
• [In life] I was mostly right, somewhat wrong, or completely full of shit
• [Conversation with son] just because it comes out of my mouth doesn’t automatically mean that it’s bullshit. As you get older, you’re gonna find yourself becoming me.
• Dale Carnegie: “A man who dies rich dies disgraced.”
• I’m never gonna have Andrew Carnegie money, but I’ve got a laptop and a thumb drive. Everything that’s up here [in my head] is gonna be out.

A true champion. That describes this week’s guest, Robert Paylor, perfectly. Having broken his neck in the 2017 Collegiate Rugby National Championship, Robert has not accepted defeat in his physical or mental capacities. From living the life of a quadriplegic - unable to even move his hands – much less walk - to rising from his wheelchair and walking to receive his diploma, this guy is as inspirational as they come. Listen in as Robert tells his epic comeback story, which has brought hope and a never-quit mentality to thousands.
In this episode you will hear:

• I was put on this earth to move people.
• My chin was pushed into my chest; a second player grabbed my legs; I fell forward; my nose slammed against my chest, and when I hit the ground with the top of my head – poof - I couldn’t feel anything.
• My whole life, I’ve tried to make my parent’s proud.
• The doctors said: “If, one day, you could take a piece of pizza and bring it to your face, then you made it.”
• Going under the knife in the area of my spinal cord - they said there was a chance I would not wake up, so I started calling my buddies.
• I’m a man of faith. I needed prayers. I needed God.
• The one thing you do have control over is your mindset.
• Great opportunities comes from great challenges.
• If I didn’t have humor through all of this, I would be crushed, depressed.
• This is such a gift. Just to be able to struggle to walk around my house.
• I had to go through something tough to gain perspective, but it a gift I use in my life, and I can help give it to others. It’s my purpose.
• When I saw my hamstring twitch I said “Okay. Game on.” It was like smelling blood in the water.
• No person has stood by my side like my mom.
• I’m gonna be a damn good man, and I’m gonna live a damn good life, because I have angels around me. 
• I love my life. I’m proud of who I am.
• We can’t wait to start enjoying our lives until something happens.
• You don’t have to get out of your wheelchair to live a good life.
• God gives His toughest challenges to His toughest soldiers.

Mastering Fear and Building Resilience with Evy Poumpouras
In this compelling episode, Marcus and Melanie sit down with the incredible Evy Poumpouras, former Secret Service Agent, author, and expert in resilience and personal empowerment. Evy shares her journey from protecting presidents to empowering individuals to face their fears and build unshakeable resilience. She provides practical strategies for managing fear, handling stress, and cultivating a mindset that can thrive in any situation.
As a Secret Service Agent, Evy served under Presidents George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Bill Clinton. She is the author of "Becoming Bulletproof: Protect Yourself, Read People, Influence Situations, and Live Fearlessly." She is a renowned speaker and media commentator, frequently appearing on networks like CNN, MSNBC, and NBC. Her expertise in body language, lie detection, and personal protection makes her a sought-after expert in the fields of security and resilience.
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 In this episode you will hear:
• I was born in Harlem, New York. My parents were immigrants – they’re Greek. (9:50)
• My dad’s first job in America – he worked for free. (12:04)
• [Growing up] Fun was when the fire department would open up the fire hydrants, and we’d run through them. That was “going to the pool.” (13:57)
• I’ve always trusted my [inner] voice – whatever it is – intuition, instinct. I would listen to it. (18:22)
• I’m brave if I’m in proximity of other brave people. (19:30)
• When I applied to the Secret Service and before that, NYPD, I never asked what am I getting paid? (22:55)
• Everything I was able to do, happened here, and there’s no question in my mind, had I been born in Greece – I say this with all humility, there’s no way I would’ve ever been a secret service agent, there’s no way I would’ve ever been a cop. (39:20)
• After 9/11, the tone changed significantly. [People became] very much supportive of first responders. (42:10)
• [In the 9-11 experience] there were no injuries that day. You either lived, or you died. (59:51)
• That was the saddest part, I thought “I’m gonna die all by myself here – completely alone.” (69:33)
• Those situations show you who people really are. Even training won’t reveal that, until you see who does what, and who’s capable of what. (80:25)
• [Marcus] The best comes out in everybody when we all get hit at the same time. (81:11)
• [Marcus} I think 9-11 recreated a different kind of America. (84:38)
• I never dealt with the victims, I dealt with the suspects and the perpetrators. (99:52)
 • I learned when I was an interviewer, certain countries torture certain ways. (110:04)
• I think our next big attack is gonna be a cyber-attack. (120:23)

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There are interesting similarities between the streets of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria and the streets of the South Bronx. This week’s Team Never Quit guest is former U.S. Army Master Sergeant., 2-tour veteran, National Guard Paratrooper, and 22 year veteran of the NYPD – Tommy O’Hare. Listen to Tommy’s personal experiences and life lessons from his 2 tours of duty in Iraq (Desert Storm), Mogadishu, Somalia, and his cop career on the streets of the South Bronx of New York. This patriot has a myriad of common sense and positivity he shares with Marcus and you.
In this episode you will hear:

•  I am the American success story. A child of Irish Immigrants who came to this country on a boat.
• The [social] environment’s always changing, always evolving.
• You never know what the future holds. You’d better catch up with it, adapt to it, or you’ll be left behind.
• I can be as nice as a British butler, or I can be your worst nightmare.
• Those same skills I learned in the streets of Brooklyn & the Bronx paid dividends in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria.
• [After 9-11] Who you were, who you voted for – none of that crap mattered. We knew there were people in that building and we had to get them out because that’s our job. 
• I was more stressed working the midnight shift in the South Bronx than I was overseas working recognizance 10 miles from the Al Qaeda camp.
• I know the dangers, but we’ve got a job to do. We signed up for it.
• I worked with heroes every day - In the streets of New York and in the streets of Afghanistan.
• You have moral courage, spiritual courage, and physical courage.
• The interactions I had with the Iraqis is the same interactions I had with people in the South Bronx.
• If there is a fight, I’m gonna win. I am undefeated.
• My mother’s advice to me on my first day as a cop was: “Remember to be just.”
• What right do I have to complain? I have both my legs. I am alive. I’ve been blessed throughout my career.
• Don’t quit on yourself. I’m not gonna quit on you, Marcus isn’t gonna quit on you, God’s not gonna quit on you.

This week’s TNQP guest needs no introduction. Former Texas Governor Rick Perry joins Marcus and Morgan, bringing to the table surprising stories of events and experiences with “The Luttrell Boys” – some previously known, and some unknown. Character and heroism are on full display in this episode, and Governor Perry makes no bones about how he feels about both of these patriots.
In this episode you will hear:

• A call comes in from the command post. “Governor, there’s a young man down who said that you told him if he was ever through Austin to come by. Just to let you know, he’s here.” And I said, “Okay, what’s his name?” “Marcus Luttrell.” And I was like, “Hmmm…. Send him in.”
• [Morgan] We’ve always started at the bottom and worked our way up. It was a fluid transition from the enlisted ranks. 
• If you want to effect change, then it’s time for you to man up and fill the seat. Quit yelling at the TV.
• I get frustrated with the government from time to time.
• Dr. Stanley Jones, I will always hold him in a special place because of his agreeing to do that initial work for Marcus.
• When you [Morgan] crashed and ended up at the same place as Marcus, that was God’s way of tapping Marcus on the shoulder and saying “Hey dude, you gotta take care of your brother.”
• The thing that amazes me about you guys is your fortitude after catastrophic injuries.
• You guys have the most amazing discipline and character.
• You reflect everything as a Texan. Texans and all Americans appreciate what you guys are all about.
• They need people like you in the United States Congress, to show them what the military should be about.
• You are fiercely loyal to your family, to your God, and to your state.
• Team Never Quit is a really interesting concept, and no two people give a better reflection of that than Marcus and Morgan Luttrell.
• I think America will be better off with another one of the Luttrell boys staying in the fight.

In this week’s incredible Team Never Quit episode, legendary bull rider and Netflix reality superstar Dale Brisby (How to Be a Cowboy) brings a brand of toughness, determination, fun, truth, and faith to the table. From Facebook to Snapchat to TikTok, this guy has attracted thousands with his hilarious cowboy-lifestyle videos. Brisby is the self-proclaimed greatest rodeo cowboy on the planet and shares an engaging conversation with Marcus Luttrell in the Team Never Quit Podcast Studios. You’ll see pretty quickly that Dale Brisby is not your typical rancher. And you’ll hear - firsthand – how a future bull-riding rodeo comes to life at Dale’s Radiator Ranch.
In this episode you will hear:

• I’m the Navy SEAL of Bull Riders.
• My bucket list is – I don’t want to kick the bucket anytime soon.
• Marcus Luttrell can call me whatever he wants.
• I was raised around rodeo & started pro rodeo in college.
• If you’ll just not quit, that’s what you’re supposed to do.
• The rule of wearing felt hats is: Use them in months that end in “R”. Texas is a bit more lenient.
• The most peaceful thing that ever crossed my mind was if my old man was in heaven. It was as sure to me as gravity.
• [As it relates to Marcus Luttrell’s experience in Afghanistan] A lot of Americans think about what we would do in that situation. There’d be an intense amount of prayer I’d have to be doing.
• Salvation is like – alight you’ve graduated, but you still need to go to the classes.
• My dad died, both of my granddads died, and I had this real moment of “Snap, I’m the patriarch now. My family’s gonna be looking to me…”
• [Telling Marcus Luttrell] If anything devastating were to happen, and I’m sitting here older than you, but I’ve been an accountant, I’m letting you be the boss.
• Always give 100% unless you’re donating blood.
• There’s never a time when you can just lay down & wait for something to happen.
• Offense is the best defense.
• In business, don’t ask yourself “Is this right or wrong?” Instead ask yourself “Is this wise?”
• When you have faith, live your life in response to that.

Sharpie + Cardboard = Pearls of Wisdom. This week’s Team Never Quit guest, Zachary Bell, is known as the “Veteran With A Sign”. A former Marine Infantryman, Zachary uses common language related to his experiences in the military on his signs in an effort to bring people together via communication. He has a “Let’s talk about it” mentality. He has become known as a meme philosopher – from light to pointed – with many layers in-between. His signs are photographed and disseminated globally via Instagram, the internet and his analog tools consist of a sharpie and cardboard.
In this episode you will hear:

• I always had this fear of living a life of regret, and it’s driven me to do everything I’ve done, right, wrong, or indifferent.
• Comments on the internet are first draft thoughts – people just throw them out there.
• I think that true love is finding the one person who always makes you wanna be the best version of yourself.
• I asked my girl to marry me. She said yes, and five seconds later we found out she was pregnant with our first child.
• I was invincible until the moment my daughter was born.
• They told us we going to Iraq for 90 days. “We’re gonna be in the green zone, you’ll have wifi, you’ll have fast food, you’ll live like a Navy SEAL.
• When my 2nd daughter was born, I knew my military career was over.
• My daughters changed my capacity for love. They’ve made me a better person.
• It’s a really bad pitch to say “Hey, we’re gonna get married, I’ll be around sometimes, and then you’ll be pregnant, and then I’ll be gone, hopefully, I’ll be back.”
• I’ve always found the best version of myself in service to others.
• Everything I’ve done in my life has been trying to help people.
• Community is one of the most important things we have.
• Marcus Luttrell is a cultural icon.
• Everyone outside of the military thinks the military is like a high school and like we all meet up in the cafeteria. It would be cool if it was like that.
• Wearing gators doesn’t make you a SEAL, but writing a book does.
• If you’ve been kissed by violence, you can see it on other people.
• I want to be the bridge between the military and the civilian world.

Are you experiencing adversities? When you tell this week’s guest, Dr. Patrick Bisher, that something is physically impossible – like walking – he’ll rise to the highest challenge and become a Navy SEAL. From his lowest of the lowest to the highest of the highest, Patrick shares with Marcus Luttrell how he overcame “impossible adversities” in his life. Patrick authored the book: Warrior of God.
If you’re needing some inspiration in your life, this is the podcast to bring it to you. Never say never.
In this episode you will hear:

• My hip bone inside the socket deteriorated.
• I found out at a young age that kids are mean, they tell the truth, they don’t sugar coat anything.
• I went from being amazing at physical activities to not being able to do anything at all.
• At 16 years old that I’d never play sports, but I proved them wrong.
• In my recovery, my first goal was to get to the mailbox.
• I don’t care what anybody says… I can do it. I take that mentality to everything I do.
• It took an assistant coach to see that I was suffering. I opened up to him and my burden was lifted.
• Be conscious of what you say - You never get your words back.
• I loved every part of BUD/S because what I had been experiencing my entire life – other people were experiencing for the first time.
• What comes out is the best version of you if you’re willing to be refined in the fire.
• I proved the world wrong about what’s possible.
• My own Kryptonite was my pride.
• No matter what happens to me, there’s no way you’re going to hurt me to the point I’m gonna give up & quit.
• I’m never out of the fight.
• Instead of being selfish, I’m gonna be selfless.
• It doesn’t matter your rank, what matters is the impact you make for the team.
• If you are going through terrible scenarios, understand that bricks and stones will eventually build a bridge to cross over to where you want to be.
• If you never quit & never give up, you can accomplish anything.

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“Speak the complete truth.” That is all our guest Michelle Black is asking from U.S. Army officials and AFRICOM (United States Africa Command), as it relates to the death of her Green Beret husband, Staff Sergeant Bryan Black. Our guest Michelle Black, a Gold Star widow, lost her Green Beret husband in the 2017 Niger Ambush.  

In her inspiring and revelatory memoir—Sacrifice: A Gold Star Widow’s Fight for the Truth—she used exclusive interviews with the surviving members of ODA 3212 to write what has been hailed as “the best after-action report to come out of the ambush and subsequent events."
In this episode you will hear:

• I reached a point where I realized that my husband and all the men who fought and died alongside him were being completely dishonored.
• I had to make a decision. If they come after me and take everything, what are they going to do to me? I was doing exactly what I was supposed to do.
• God was with me. He was giving me the strength. I was the right person at the right time to do the right thing. What a shame if I hadn’t.
• Once I feel like I’m doing what I’m supposed to do and God’s behind me, there’s a different boldness that doesn’t exist in any other area of my life.
• I don’t want to waste what Bryan fought for.
• We hold those accountable who should be held accountable.
• I’m pushing for changes in the way military investigations are done, so we have better oversight.
• How can you lead people if you’re doing a poor job? It’s a good ol’ boy system no matter how good or bad a leader you are.
• You don’t have to accept what you’re being told if you know it’s not true.
• The men on the ground want you to know the truth.
• You can do anything you set your mind to.

Is it possible to grow accustomed to the sight of charred bodies in the battlefield, and worse yet – be responsible for bagging them up and processing their return to loved ones with honor? This week’s Team Never Quit guest, Marine Reservist Chris Bussler, filled that role for the U.S. Marines as part of a Mortuary Affairs Unit in Iraq. Listen to Chris’ account of the reality and consequences of war from a different perspective than most. It’s almost unbelievable that a man could go from being an everyday postal carrier to an active participant in the front lines of battle with a single phone call.
3 tours of duty later, Chris’ book, No Tougher Duty, No Greater Honor, came to fruition and provides an autobiographical account of his experiences, and their unforgettable impact on his life.
In this episode you will hear:

• I grew up traveling and never having a place to call home. So I really didn’t want to see the world, but I wanted to serve.
• I was told the reserve unit near my house accepted grunts, but what they didn’t tell me is that they didn’t do grunt things, so I was assigned to go out on the front lines in a mortuary affairs unit, find the guys that got killed, recover their remains, and bring them back.
• A 22mm mortar picked me up and threw me off the road and destroyed the radio I was carrying. As a result, I got an ice cream scoop taken – “a shark bite” - out of my calf.
• I still have a piece of shrapnel near my femoral artery.
• Family was always big, but now, family is everything. I want to be there as a good father.
• Even the mightiest of mountains will eventually tumble into the sea.
• If you let the waves hit you every day, eventually it will knock you down.
• It takes a village to welcome back the warriors. My book reminds people that the guys that are killed on the battlefield are just the beginning of the sacrifice.
• The guys that go to war are real people with real aspirations.
• Soldiers put their families on hold, everything on hold - to do a job that the American people asked them to do. That’s sacrifice.
• When we heard there were SEALS operating in our area, we thought “Holy cow, we must be high on the totem pole.”
• I still remember the razor burns to keep a good seal on our gas masks.
• We were training with World War II manuals and making things up on the fly.

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What a distinctive guest we have in the studio for this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast. It is our honor and privilege to have 100-year-old Retired U.S. Army Air Corps Major Joe Balogh with us. This American hero has innumerable stories of his World War II service with an uncanny recollection of detail. In addition to being recognized by President Harry Truman for his bravery during his service, Joe also worked for Henry Ford himself in one of his factories. This is a fantastic, entertaining interview you’re certain to love.
In this episode you will hear:
• I was the only farm boy that went to high school.
•I struggled in school because I couldn’t speak English very well as my parents were both Hungarian.
• I had to walk 7 miles to high school.
• Luck has been with me all my life.
• Henry Ford paid my way to the University of Michigan.    • I’ve been shot down twice.
• You have 28 seconds to exit a burning airplane if you can’t put the flames out.
• You could never get me to jump out of an airplane unless I’m scared.
• [Marcus] All my jumps were at night, even during the day because I always had my eyes closed.
• In Europe during World War II, 72% of all pilots and crews were killed.
• I never thought I’d live this long.
• I’ve never had a headache, or a stomach ache, or a broken bone.
• My secret to a long life is – I eat bologna sandwiches for lunch every day.
• If somebody’s nasty to you, walk off. It’s not worth a fight - walk away.
• I don’t like to see guys fight in war & get killed over what’s not worth it.
• No matter your field, you’re as great a professional as anyone if you strive for excellence.

Sometimes all you need is “A Small If” – That’s all Elijah Stacy would need to do something that had never been done before –change the shape of his own spine. This week’s Team Never Quit guest brings to the table his incredible story of the phenomenal pursuit of life itself. Elijah suffers from Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy – a fatal disease - which took the life of his younger brother. Yet he maintains a positive outlook on his future, despite the odds.

Does Elijah Stacy stay at home in his wheelchair feeling sorry for himself? Not hardly. He launched a non-profit organization – Destroy Duchenne at age 15 in an endeavor to find a cure via gene-editing technology. He is a public speaker and has a passion for business. 

Listen in as Elijah encourages all of us to be the change that we seek.
In this episode you will hear:
• When I was 6 years old, I was diagnosed with Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy.
• I have an athlete’s mindset as my dad was a football coach.
• My wheelchair symbolizes suffering. Everyone will suffer at some point in their life.
• But I sit on top of my wheelchair. I symbolize that you can overcome adversity.
• My mind is set on being great.
• Be a better version of yourself.
• Let me be the difference.
• Adversity is an opportunity to improve your character.
• One of my priorities is to bring awareness to this disease.
• I’m trying to be the Magic Johnson of Duchenne.
• If we can learn to edit our DNA, we can cure any disease.
• Every day is a never-quit day.
• I love when people doubt me. I’m like “Oh, let’s bet on it.”
• I hung a picture of my curved spine on my wall, so I could visualize it being straighter.
• All I needed was a small ”if”. I just needed to know it’s possible.
• Everything I do is in service for other people.

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The CrossFit lifestyle – that’s the ultimate description of this week’s incredible guest - Mat Fraser. Mat is the first athlete in history to have won five consecutive CrossFit Games titles. He is an amazing specimen of an ultra-fit man. What a never-quit story he has to tell – suffering two breaks in his L5 vertebra and still competing in the Junior World Weightlifting Championship in Bucharest, Romania. That injury required him to wear a plastic brace on his torso for four months, but it failed to heal properly. Instead of spinal fusion surgery which would have certainly ended his athletic career, Mat elected instead for experimental surgery to have his back re-broken, inserting a protein sponge to help heal the bone with two plates and six screws attached to his lower spine. The silver lining in this seemingly insurmountable circumstance was finding CrossFit, which helped him achieve different, yet impressive athletic goals.
In this episode you will hear:
• I’m gonna learn what I don’t know, I’ll fuckin’ hammer it till I’m great at it.
• There’s no road trip too long if you have a fun person in the car.
• I wasn’t the most naturally gifted athlete. I always had incredible body coordination. I was always the strong one in the group.
• Anytime there was something I wasn’t proficient in, I would seek out a professional, seek advice – show me how to do this.
• If your outcome is determined by one person that isn’t as dedicated as much as you, it fucks up everyone’s effort.
• Absolute max effort today allows me to train tomorrow & the next day.
• My mom is 66, and she goes to CrossFit every morning.
• [Markus] “Every morning you get down to do 1 pushup – eventually, you’ll do 2.”
• Not every time I drank I got in trouble, but every time I got in trouble, I had been drinking.
• When I told my coach I hurt my back, he said “there’s a difference between pain and injury.” He assumed I was just young and being a pussy.
• Thank God I hurt my back because I would’ve never found CrossFit.
• When I was broken & hopeless, I remember thinking, “What good is gonna come of this?”
• If you can’t explain it to a six-year-old, you don’t know it well enough.
• I’m a good coach because I didn’t pick up on things naturally.
• How you do anything is how you do everything.
• The most valuable thing is learning how to learn. 

Building a Bridge Between Two Worlds with Aaron Kendle
In this riveting episode, we dive deep into the extraordinary journey of Aaron Kendle, who dedicated 16 years to the Navy SEALs, completing six deployments. Kendle began his career as a medic, advanced to become a sniper, and eventually served as a sky-diving instructor for the West Coast SEALs in San Diego. Transitioning from military to civilian life, Kendle embraced a new mission as the CEO of the SEAL Future Fund (SFF), an organization devoted to helping fellow SEALs transition into civilian life and careers, with the creation of tailored resumes, professional coaching, and networking opportunities.
Despite a devastating accident that required hand amputation and the discovery and treatment of his life-threatening aortic aneurysm, Aaron proves firsthand that perspective, attitude and determination go a long way in life. Tune in to hear Aaron Kendle’s full story and gain valuable insights on leadership, resilience, and the power of community in supporting life transitions.

In this episode you will hear:
• Q: So what was it that made you want to become a Navy SEAL?
A: I started thinking about it before I graduated. 9-11 is what shifted my path. (7:37)
• I still going to the VFW. I still love talking to those older guys. It’s a different mindset. (11:14)
• I heard my name going to Gold Team. As the classes get smaller and smaller, the guys get tighter. (44:33)
• We were living in Morgan’s house. Every Wednesday, if we were all together, we would go to Outback Steakhouse and get Chocolate Thunder. (50:48)
• Aaron speaks about “Extortion,” when 30 servicemen were killed when a Chinook helicopter was shot down in Afghanistan. (57:25)
• 2 days later when everything opened up, I remember calling my dad on a sat phone, saying “Hey, it’s me. I’m alive. I’d love to stay and chat, but there’s a bunch of stuff going on.” (61:59)
• The older guys that did 20-30 years. Those are the guys trying to figure out what’s the next step? (81:13)
• Aaron tells the most ridiculous and compelling story of an accident that resulted in having his hand amputated, and the subsequent hilarious events that followed. (82:12)
• “You have an Aortic aneurism. Your Aorta is way oversized.” (98:09)
During Covid I’m out there skateboarding. Made this turn, hit a wet patch, and landed directly on my nub. (103:35)
• I had a seizure. Out of nowhere. (104:18)
If I don’t have a goal for something, then I’m not doing anything. (109:16)
• Starting running is the worst feeling of all time. To stand there and then begin to run is terrible. (110:13)
• I think I owe it to people. 1 - I’m not dead. If I can go out there and suffer a little bit to help motivate people, and make ‘em better than I am, that’s our goal. (123:23) 

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In this week’s episode, we’ll hear from 2 bad-ass entrepreneurs who are driven, creative, and successful. Anthony Milton (CEO of Tilted Concepts) & Michael-David Reilly (Director of Marketing) are a powerhouse team of business concepts plus superior marketing techniques. Together, they have made their business ventures - Tune-Up (The Manly Salon), Balanced Foods, and Martinis & Manicures “take off like a rocket ship.” Listen in to hear these guys bring their stories and personal thoughts on successful thinking, and a pursuit of excellence.
In this episode you will hear:
• I don’t have a never-quit story – it’s been my entire life. [13:31]
• Every time I’d hit something, it would just go to shit. [13:36]
• How fast, how far was up to me. [14:56]
• How do you ride 100 miles on your bike? I just decide to. It’s one pedal stroke after another. [17:13]
• Everything is a choice. [17:34]
• I used to be completely paralyzed by fear. [18:54]
• You’re in this position because you either made a series of bad decisions that led you here, or you just didn’t react correctly. Fix your shit. [23:09]
• The idea of merging a bar and a barbershop all in one. It took off like a rocket ship. [39:25]
• We now have 56 stores in 5 states. [40:48]
• Where people get bogged down in their ability to pursue their dreams - is the unknown. [51:45]
• Our franchisees have a support system to help them be successful. [70:09]
• Most people let their day dictate how they feel and what they do. [86:55]
• Our greatest commodity is our focus. [87:06]
• Before I go to bed, I write down 5 non-negotiables that I will complete the next day. [88:22]
• Pressure is a privilege. [89:39]
• If my attention is on gaming 24/7, I’m gonna go nowhere. [89:05]

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Everyone has a story to tell, but in the case of this week’s guest, Phil Klay has the inherent gift of conveying his collection of insights and perspectives in short story form. His writings bring deeper meaning to life as they engage a broad audience. Phil is a veteran of the U.S. Marine Corps and his short story collection Redeployment has won multiple national book awards. Listen in as he joins Marcus & Morgan to tell of his military and personal life experiences.
In this episode you will hear:
• I’ve always believed in public service.
• National service is a standard that everybody should serve in some way.
• When I feel like I’ve almost died, it inspires me to convey that intensity in a novel.
• Throwing in people together, who are different from each other, but all trying to achieve something in the service of the country, would be almost spiritually healthy.
• It’s stupid to climb off trail when there’s no one around.
• When you try to figure out how you feel about something, put it in a story.
• There are some things that need to be communicated. It’s important to communicate that to people.
• The Marine Corps is a very complicated thing.
• I started writing about my experiences, outside of the mold of typical conversation.
• It’s not that our life experiences themselves are very interesting, it’s that you should reflect on them. It forces you to think more deeply about life.
• When you think of your limits, know that there’s a mental component to that.
• If you think you can’t, you can always take another step. 

If you’re looking for an inspiring story of purpose and overcoming, you’ve come to the right place. This week’s guest, Paul Harris, aka “The Warrior Walker” is a former Royal Marine currently walking around the entire outer perimeter of the UK, and has already walked over 1,000 miles. He is raising awareness to help those struggling with mental health issues.
Paul shares many heart-warming and inspiring experiences as he is overwhelmed daily with coffee, meals and accommodations. Because he has no support staff or sponsors, he relies solely on the generosity of the people he meets to help him pursue his mammoth task!
This journey has completely changed Paul’s life. He has gone from an average, uninspiring, mentally challenging life, and feeling like a failure, to finding out what he could create with his own momentum, passion, and power.
While this endeavor started off as a walk, it has become so much more than that with the amazing community of radiators he has come across on his journey.
“Human kindness is real. They want you to win.”    In this episode you will hear:
• I feel like I’ve gone back in time. I’m breaking bread and having dinner with people all along the way.
• My parent’s issues in my childhood is why I’m passionate and positive.
• When I was ready to quit the Marines, my grandfather asked me if I wanted to be known as Paul Harris, or Marine Harris. That was all I needed  to keep moving forward.
• I like to push the boundaries.
• We tend to think of the me, me, me, but we should be thinking of others.
• Every day is an adventure.
• Becoming a Kindergarten teacher was therapy for me.
• I’ve had moments in my life when I should’ve done something but I didn’t. I overthought it.
• Be careful what you say to yourself, because the warrior within you is lessened by it.

• To be in control of what you do is the most freeing thing you can do.
• I’m always alone, but I never feel loneliness.
• A bad week doesn’t make a bad life.
• If you have passion - and you action that passion – you can live the life you want to live.
• Don’t ask yourself: What’s the worst that can happen? Instead ask yourself: What’s the best that can happen!
• There’s only one time in your life when you’re done, that’s when you’re done.

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