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On this weekβs TalkhouseΒ Podcast weβve got a legend of β90s-era punk in deep conversation with a songwriter you might be hearing of for the first time: Kathleen Hanna and Jim Andralis.
Hanna, of course, was a founding member of Bikini Kill, the band credited with starting the riot grrrl movement and inspiring an incredible number of young women to pick up guitars and claim their place in the rock universe. After Bikini Killβs initial split, Hanna went on to perform in both The Julie Ruin and Le Tigre, though recent years have found her spitting fire with Bikini Kill yet againβtheyβre actually on tour now through September. Hanna also released an excellent memoir this year called Rebel Girl: My Life as a Feminist Punk, which is absolutely worth a read or an audiobook listenβHanna reads it herself, and itβs awesome.
Hannaβs people approached us about having her chat with songwriter Jim Andralis because, as youβll hear in this chat, she might be his biggest fan. Andralis is a New Yorker whose day job is as a trauma-focused psychotherapist, but whoβs been writing songs for the past 20 or so years. Considering Hannaβs fandom, it might surprise you to learn that Andralis doesnβt come out of the punk tradition at all: Heβs a songwriter in the classic sense, meaning itβs tough to pin him into a genre boxβKathleen tries a little bit here, but doesnβt come to any conclusions. Andralis recently released his fifth album, Ghosts, check out a song they chat about toward the end of this episode, itβs called βCarnival.β
Hanna and Andralis jump right into their chat here, and you can tell theyβre old friends. As youβll hear at the top, Hanna and her band were recently honored by Olympia, Washington with Bikini Kill Day, celebrating a lifetime of achievements. After that, Hanna gets straight to picking Andralisβ brain about his lyrics and songwriting. She interprets one song in particular that turns out to beβ¦ not quite right, but also exactly right? Youβll see. Enjoy.
0:00 β Intro
2:48 β Happy Bikini Kill Day!
9:26 β Kathleen tries to figure out what genre Jim's songs belong in
21:07 β Jim's song about political depression
32:48 β An appreciation of Jamey Johnson
39:05 β "What a dick, if I had written the song that way!"
Thanks for listening to the Talkhouse Podcast and thanks to Kathleen Hanna and Jim Andralis for chatting. If you liked what you heard, please follow Talkhouse on your favorite podcasting platform and check out all the great stuff at Talkhouse.com. This episode was produced by Myron Kaplan, and the Talkhouse theme is composed and performed by the Range. See you next time!
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David Pajo (Slint) and Cassie Berman (Silver Jews) with Tim Furnish (Crain)
Thursday, August 22, 2024 β’ Duration 39:14
On this weekβs Talkhouse Podcast weβve got a reunion of sorts, in celebration of a new release of old music: Itβs David Pajo, Cassie Berman, and Tim Furnish.
These three met in the fertile Louisville scene of the early 1990s. Pajo played guitar in the wildly influential band Slint and went on to play with Tortoise, Royal Trux, Stereolab, and Interpol at various times over the yearsβheβs currently a member of Gang Of Four. But the subject of this conversation is Pajoβs sorta-solo career, which went through various M-names, from just M to Papa M and Aerial M. As Aerial M, Pajo brought on some friends for a brief time to tour Europe, where they recorded a Peel Sessionβmore on that in a minute.
The friends that Pajo recruited to play in the Aerial M live band were Tim Furnish, whose legendary Louisville band Crain had broken up recentlyβand who has since recorded experimental rock with the band Parlourβas well as Cassie Berman and Tony Bailey. Berman had been kicking around in Louisville bands, too, and she would go on to join Silver Jews, the band fronted by her husband, David Berman. Drummer Tony Bailey, as youβll hear, played in about a million bands in the areaβhe died, sadly, in 2009.
The reason for todayβs reunion of the lineup that burned bright but quick is the release of Aerial Mβs new Peel Sessions album. In case youβre unfamiliar, BBC DJ John Peel used to invite the coolest bands of his dayβfrom the β70s into the 2000sβto record a few songs specifically for his show, many of which were later released with the same striking artwork. In 1998, Aerial M stopped by and recorded three songs that would turn out quite different to the versions Pajo crafted in the studio, and would really be the only evidence that this lineup left of its existence. Pajo was recently reminded of this session, so he set about tracking down the tapes, sprucing them up, and handing them over to Drag City for a proper releaseβincluding an amazing replica of those original John Peel Sessions sleeves. Check out the song βViveaβ right here.
I donβt think these three had sat down for a chat in a while, so itβs like sitting in on a reunion with three people who have a lot of fond memories. They talk about their '98 tour, including the recording of this record, plus they get into fond remembrances of Tony Bailey, racing Stereolab to the record store, and even what theyβre up to now: Just a few days before this recording, Cassie Berman participated in a tribute to David Berman on the anniversary of his untimely passing, and Furnish has been working on some cool-sounding visual art for other bands. Enjoy.
Thanks for listening to the Talkhouse Podcast, and thanks to David Pajo, Cassie Berman, and Tim Furnish for chatting. If you liked what you heard, please follow Talkhouse on your favorite podcasting platform, and be sure to check out all the great stuff at Talkhouse.com and in our wider podcasting network. This episode was produced by Myron Kaplan, and the Talkhouse theme is composed and performed by the Range. See you next time!
ο»ΏThis episode is brought to you by DistroKid. DistroKid makes music distribution fun and easy with unlimited uploads and artists keep 100% of their royalties and earnings. To learn more and get 30% off your first year's membership, visit: distrokid.com/vip/talkhouse
Marc Maron with Paige Stark
Thursday, June 13, 2024 β’ Duration 55:46
On this weekβs Talkhouse Podcast, weβve got a popular comedian, podcaster, and actor in conversation with a musician-slash-director who released their first song together earlier this year: Marc Maron and Paige Stark.
Maron is of course the host of the long-running interview podcast WTF, but thatβs really just the headline on a long and winding career. He was of course first knownβand is still known!βas a top-tier stand-up comedian whose shows are often discursive explorations of his own psyche while also being wildly funny. Heβs also an actor, having been a regular on the Netflix series GLOW and a lead in a couple of dramatic movies, including To Leslie, which comes up in this conversation, and Sword of Trust, which was directed by Maronβs girlfriend Lynn Shelton, who died unexpectedly in 2020. That fact worked its way into Maronβs latest stand-up special, last yearβs brilliant From Bleak to Dark. Oh, and he also dabbles as a musician, having played guitar in bands in his school days, and keeping it up mostly as a hobby since.
Thatβs where singer and songwriter Paige Stark comes in. A friend of Maronβs, she recruited him recently to play some "searing" guitar and duet with her on a cover of Loveβs 1966 song βSigned DC.β Stark has been kicking around the L.A. music scene for years, most notably as part of the band Tashaki Miyaki, whose name is the subject of discussion in this podcast. Stark only recently began releasing music under her own name, including a bunch of singles this year that feature friends like Cherry Glazerr, Jon Brion, and of course Maron. Stark is also an actor and director whoβs working on a narrative short at the moment. Busy busy. Check out the duet she did with Maron on βSigned DC.β
This funny, wide-ranging conversation covers everything from the recording of this duet to Maronβs guitar setup to Starkβs substance-fueled nights out in Los Angeles. They also clearly love talking about music, dissecting everything from Nick Cave to Bob Dylan and beyond. Enjoy!
0:00 - Intro
2:27 - Start of the chat/Trying to figure out Talkhouse
8:14 - Periods of self-doubt and Maron's confidence in singing
20:16 - "I don't know that many comedians."
29:20 - Paige's party years
33:26 - "You're one of my favorite actors"βStark
37:18 - Maron's junior high and high school bands
45:55 - New bands Maron has recently seen
Thanks for listening to the Talkhouse Podcast, and thanks to Marc Maron and Paige Stark for chatting. If you liked what you heard, please follow Talkhouse on your favorite podcasting platform, and check out all the good stuff at Talkhouse.com. This episode was produced by Myron Kaplan, and the Talkhouse theme is composed and performed by the Range. See you next time!
This episode is brought to you by DistroKid. DistroKid makes music distribution fun and easy with unlimited uploads and artists keep 100% of their royalties and earnings. To learn more and get 30% off your first year's membership, visit: distrokid.com/vip/talkhouse
Introducing: BjΓΆrk: Sonic Symbolism
Thursday, August 25, 2022 β’ Duration 02:32
New from Talkhouse:
Join BjΓΆrk in conversations with collaborators about her sound experiences. In the podcast youβll learn about the moods, timbers, and tempos that vibrate through each album.
Subscribe at: https://pod.link/bjork
Hamilton Leithauser with Ethan Hawke
Thursday, August 25, 2022 β’ Duration 30:24
On this weekβsΒ Talkhouse Podcast weβve paired a couple of friends who recently worked together on an incredible project: Ethan Hawke and Hamilton Leithauser.
Ethan Hawke you surely know as the Academy Award-nominated actor in a million great films, from Reality Bites to Training Day to Richard Linklaterβs Before trilogy to 2018βs First Reformed. Hawke is also a writer and director, and the impetus for todayβs conversation is his six-part HBO Max documentary The Last Movie Stars. The series tells the story of Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward, both their personal lives as a married couple and their professional lives as two monumental actors of their generation. Far from a typical documentary, The Last Movie Stars uses archival footage alongside dramatizations of interviews featuring current movie stars. It even gets a bit meta, with Hawke revealing some of his process during the series via Zoom calls with contemporaries. Itβs a fascinating way to tell this incredible story.
Another way that Hawke brought this story into the present was with music from his old friend Hamilton Leithauser, whoβs best known as the singer of the Walkmen, and whoβs had a fruitful solo career since that band went on hiatus a while back. As youβll hear in this chat, Hawke had the idea that Leithauser would be great at soundtrack work ages ago, so when he started working on The Last Movie Stars, Leithauser immediately came to mind. Thereβs a lot of Leithauser in the doc, and one song that they cover in this chat quite a bit is called β1959,β from an album that Leithauser made with Vampire Weekend co-founder Rostam.
Elsewhere in the chat, Hawke and Leithauser talk about their processes for this project: Hawke originally envisioned a two-hour feature, but quickly realized that he needed much more time to tell this huge story. They talk about Bob Dylanβs influenceβmusical good, acting not so muchβand the greatest soundtracks of all time. That, and much more. Enjoy.
Thanks for listening to the Talkhouse Podcast and thanks to Ethan Hawke and Hamilton Leithauser for chatting. If you liked what you heard, please follow Talkhouse on your favorite podcasting platformβand check out The Last Movie Stars on HBO Max. This episode was produced by Myron Kaplan, and the Talkhouse theme is composed and performed by The Range. See you next time!
Spiral Stairs (Pavement) with Kelley Stoltz
Thursday, August 18, 2022 β’ Duration 53:01
On this weekβs Talkhouse Podcast, weβve got a pair of old friends with a ton of records and history between them: Kelley Stoltz and Spiral Stairs.
Spiral Stairsβaka. Scott Kannbergβis a founding member of indie-rock kingpins Pavement, a band he formed in Stockton, California with his high school friend Stephen Malkmus. What started as a noisy, ramshackle outfit bloomed into one of the most important and influential bands of the 1990s. Their albums have only grown in stature over the years, getting the sort of deluxe reissue treatment that was once reserved only for the gods of classic rock. And though Pavement split up in 1999, theyβve reunited twiceβand are about to launch a pretty hefty tour of the US and Europe. Outside of Pavement, Kannberg has kept plenty busy releasing music under both his Spiral Stairs moniker and, for a while, as Preston School of Industry. Heβs had an incredibly prolific last few years, too, releasing three albums since 2017βthe latest is the fantastic Medley Attack!!!Β It was a record born of some hardship, including Covid, worldwide relocations, and most unfortunately, the sudden death of Kannbergβs bassist Matt Harris. But those events resulted in whatβs probably his best solo outing yet. Check out a little bit of the song βPressure Drop (End of the Hurricane)β right here.
Kannberg enlisted the help of several friends in making that record, including the other half of todayβs conversation, singer-songwriter Kelley Stoltz. Stoltz is one of those guys who just has a knack for writing incredibly tuneful pop songs. If they were recorded with more slickness, you might mistake them for radio hits of the β60s and β70sβI mean that as a high compliment. Stoltz recently released his seventeenth studio album, The Stylist, and itβs a great place to start in a catalog that includes plenty of stone classics. Check out βYour Name Escapes Me.β
As youβll hear in this conversationβthough not necessarily in either of those songsβStoltz and Kannberg first bonded over a mutual love of Echo & The Bunnymen. Stoltz actually recorded a full album cover of that bandβs Crocodiles album, and Kannberg joined him on some live shows to perform it. Weirdly, that led to Stoltz, who as a teen worshiped Ian McCulloch, to a brief stint as rhythm guitarist for the British band. Talk about Echo leads to talk about copycat haircuts of their youth, formative years working in record stores, and lots more. And youβll even get to hear two songs in very early stagesβone that Kannberg (maybe) wants to bring to his Pavement bandmates, and one that Stoltz has started writing for his infant daughter. Enjoy.
Thanks for listening to the Talkhouse Podcast, and thanks to Kelley Stoltz and Scott Kannberg for chatting. If you liked what you heard, check out both of their new albums, and of course follow Talkhouse on your favorite podcasting platform. This episode was produced by Myron Kaplan, and the Talkhouse theme is composed and performed by The Range. See you next time!
Revisited: Reggie Watts with Chino Moreno (Deftones)
Thursday, August 11, 2022 β’ Duration 32:40
To celebrate the release of the new Deftones album Ohms, we paired frontman Chino Moreno with his old friend and tourmate β and long-time Deftones fan! β comedian/musician Reggie Watts for a Talkhouse Podcast conversation.
The guys were very psyched to catch up, and their freewheeling talk took in the making of the new Deftones LP; the ups and downs of long-term collaborations; their very different writing and recording approaches; and⦠bikes. Turns out they're both waaay into bikes.
Check it out, and subscribe now to stay in the loop on future episodes of the Talkhouse Podcast.
βElia Einhorn, Talkhouse Podcast host and producer
For this weekβs episode, everyone you hear recorded themselves. Our producer is Mark Yoshizumi.
The Talkhouse Podcast theme song was composed and performed by The Range.
Introducing: Listening
Monday, August 8, 2022 β’ Duration 02:55
In Listening, a new series from Talkhouse and Mailchimp Presents, we invite some of the worldβs most beloved and inventive musicians to create new compositions that allow us to intimately experience a time and a place in their lives. Weβll join each artist to hear about the creation of their piece, how deeper listening informs their process and how that practice can enrich all of our lives. Subscribe today!
Davey von Bohlen (Promise Ring) with Jim Adkins (Jimmy Eat World)
Thursday, August 4, 2022 β’ Duration 45:20
On this weekβs Talkhouse Podcast weβve got two old friends whose bands started around the same time, and whoβve had very different albums hit the 20-year-mark recently: Jim Adkins of Jimmy Eat World and Davey von Bohlen of the Promise Ring.
I had the idea to pair these guys after seeing a bunch of βbest of emoβ lists floating around the internet ether lately, and it reminded me of the heady days of the late β90s and early 2000s, and how many fond memories I have of those times. I saw the Promise Ring and Jimmy Eat World plenty of times back then; full disclosure: I was then and am now friends with the guys in the Promise Ring. It occurred to me that while the two bands had been on similar trajectories back then, that they diverged right around 20 years ago in a really interesting way. I figured itβd be fun to reconnect them and see what they had to say about it.
The Promise Ring were at the top of the emo heap in the late 1990s, though everybody hated that word with a passion back then. They were early fans of Jimmy Eat Worldβs music, and the bands toured together a few times over the years. By the end of the century, The Promise Ring had hit a weird rough patch: Von Bohlen had surgery for a brain tumor, and the band was naturally forced to slow down considerably. When they returned with their much anticipated fourth album, Wood/Water, it represented what felt at the time like a pretty intense left turn: The songs were slower and more melodicβnot necessarily what fans were expecting, though the album has gotten a rightful reappraisal in the 20 years since its release. The Promise Ring split up soon after its release, and Davey went on to form the band Maritime with Promise Ring drummer Dan Didier, and they released a string of great records.
Jimmy Eat World also found themselves at a crossroads 20 years ago; having parted company with a major label, they self-funded a new album. That album, 2001βs Bleed American, spawned a leftfield hit for the band, a song called βThe Middle.β It launched Jimmy Eat World into the mainstream before they knew what hit them, and itβs one of those songs that to this day you might hear on the radio. It was a blip, of course, in a consistently fantastic career: Jimmy Eat World kept making records and touringβtheir latest is 2019βs Surviving.Β
So it was an interesting point in time for both of these guys, who as youβll hear remain fast friends after all these years. Playing music isnβt a huge part of von Bohlenβs life anymore, though he does point out that Maritime is technically still a band. These two chat about their 20-ish-year-old records, fatherhood, drinking, touring in the β90s, and lots more. Davey tells a great story I hadnβt heard before about the Promise Ringβs insane pact with each other in their earliest days. Sadly, Jim and Davey never get around to talking about Daveyβs guest vocals on Bleed American, but maybe weβll just have to have them chat again sometime. Enjoy.
Thanks for listening to the Talkhouse Podcast, and thanks to Davey von Bohlen and Jim Adkins for chatting. If you liked what you heard, please follow Talkhouse on your favorite podcasting platform, and check out all the great written pieces elsewhere on this very site. This episode was produced by Myron Kaplan, and the Talkhouse theme is composed and performed by the Range. See you next time!
Joe Pera with Dan Wriggins (Friendship)
Thursday, July 28, 2022 β’ Duration 37:54
On this weekβs Talkhouse PodcastΒ weβve got a comedian and a musician who recently joined forces to make a music video: Joe Pera and Dan Wriggins.
Joe Pera is a stand-up comedian whoβs best known as the star and creator of Joe Pera Talks With You, the Adult Swim TV show about the beautifully modest existence of a middle-school choir instructor in Michiganβs Upper Peninsula. Itβs a show unlike anything else on TV, past or present, and itβs a direct reflection of Peraβs unassuming comedic persona: In other words, itβs hard to tell where Joe Pera the character ends and Joe Pera the guy begins. Itβs also insightful, weird, and decidedly sweet. And while the show just finished its three-season run recently, it wonβt be the last the world sees of Pera. In fact, heβs in the midst of a stand-up tour right now, and you can find dates at joepera.com. Oh, and he also just landed the role of James Bond, which you can hear all about on his recent Seth Meyers appearance. Seems like kind of a big deal.
Yet Pera still has time to help out indie bands like Friendship, whose singer and songwriter Dan Wriggins is the other participant in todayβs chat. Friendship is made up of old friendsβno surprise thereβthough the band is actually named after a town in Maine near where they grew up. Theyβre currently based in Philadelphia, though Wriggins Zoomed in for this chat from Little Cranberry Island, Maine, where he also spent time as a kid. That island is also where Friendship and Joe Pera shot the video for βHank,β from the bandβs brand new album, Love The Stranger. Itβs the bandβs fourth full-length and first for the always reliable Merge Records. Itβs a beautiful record full of straightforward but nuanced observations about life and love. Check out the video for "Hank" right here, which comes up in this chat quite a bit.
As I said earlier, that βHankβ video comes up in this conversation, and it leads to Joe and Dan talking about craftsmanship, lobster fishing, and lots more. They talk about touring as a comedy act versus touring as a band, and about how each of them works hard to make their respective art look easy. Oh, and at the end of the chat, Joe finally reveals who his celebrity spouse is, so stay tuned for the whole thing!
Thanks for listening to the Talkhouse Podcast, and thanks to Joe Pera and Dan Wriggins for chatting. If you liked what you heard, theyβre both on tourβseparatelyβright now. Please follow Talkhouse on your favorite podcasting platform, and check out all the great written features weβve got on Talkhouse.com. This episode was produced by Myron Kaplan, and the Talkhouse theme is composed and performed by the Range. See you next time!
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