This podcast brings together four emerging Transactional Analysis practitioners from Black and mixed heritage backgrounds in the UK to explore what therapy really looks like — and who it’s for. With warmth, humour, and honest conversation, they break down TA theory in everyday language and share their lived experiences of training as therapists from under represented communities. The show dives into how race, culture, identity, power, and history shape therapeutic spaces, offering a relatable, human take on healing and social change.
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The Scripts We Inherit – Culture, Identity & the Stories That Shape Us
Wednesday, July 1, 2026 • Duration 56:12
What if the beliefs that shape your life were never really your choice?
In this episode of TA Therapy Ain’t Just White, Robyn, Wendy, Mike and Craig unpack one of Transactional Analysis’ most influential concepts: Script—the unconscious life plan formed in childhood that continues to shape how we think, feel and relate to others.
But this conversation goes beyond classical TA theory. Together, the team explores how culture, migration, race, class, family systems and social institutions all contribute to the messages we inherit and the survival strategies we develop. Through honest personal stories and thoughtful discussion, they ask challenging questions about belonging, identity, authority, assimilation and the cultural narratives that quietly influence our lives.
From Zimbabwe to South Africa, the Caribbean to Jewish heritage, and working-class Britain, each host reflects on how their own experiences have shaped the scripts they carry—and how awareness creates the possibility for change.
This episode is a reminder that scripts are not signs that something is wrong with us; they are intelligent adaptations that once helped us survive. The real work is discovering whether those patterns still serve the life we want to live today.
Join us as we explore the intersection of Transactional Analysis, culture and identity, and discover how greater awareness can lead to greater freedom, connection and choice.
Resources:
Life Scripts: A Transactional Analysis of Unconscious Relational Patterns – Richard Erskine
Radical Relational Perspectives in Transactional Analysis Psychotherapy – Karen Minikin
Working Within Diversity: A Reflective Guide to Anti-Oppressive Practice in Counselling and Therapy – Myra Khan
The TA Podcast (Series 10, Episode 1)
MIP TV YouTube: Introduction to Script Theory
Real conversations. Real culture. Real therapy.
Hosted by Robyn Klein, Wendy Thomas, Mike Brown and Craig Maisiri.
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If today's conversation resonated with you, we'd love to hear your reflections at talktoTATAJW@gmail.com
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Music sourced from: Freemusicarchive.org
“The Road” by Ketsa Licensed underCreative Commons Attribution 4.0 (CC BY 4.0)
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Intro and Outro Voice: - Robert, Birmingham
Post-production, editing and transcription: – Candice Nolan, Johannesburg
Guest Speaker Raj: Minding The Gap
Season 1 · Episode 8
Wednesday, June 17, 2026 • Duration 47:58
TA Therapy Ain't Just White – Episode: Minding the Gap with Raj Rai
What happens when you enter a profession and rarely see yourself reflected within it?
In this episode of TA Therapy Ain't Just White, Wendy and Robyn are joined by guest psychotherapist Raj, a British Indian integrative relational psychotherapist, for an honest and thought-provoking conversation about culture, identity, representation and belonging within psychotherapy training and practice.
Together they explore what it means to be a racialised therapist in predominantly white therapeutic spaces, the challenges of navigating cultural invisibility, and the importance of finding community when your experiences are not reflected in the curriculum. Raj shares his journey into psychotherapy, his experiences as a British South Asian male therapist, and the ways he learned to bring his whole self into training spaces that often struggled to engage meaningfully with culture, race and difference.
The conversation moves through themes of intersectionality, representation, whiteness as culture, cultural and racial identity, and the impact these have on both therapists and clients. Raj also reflects on the value of Transactional Analysis concepts, the accessibility of TA theory, and how ideas such as scripts, ego states and injunctions continue to influence his work as an integrative relational psychotherapist.
This episode is a powerful reflection on what it means to mind the gap between theory and lived experience, between inclusion and belonging, and between the cultures we inherit and the professionals we are becoming.
Whether you are a trainee therapist, qualified practitioner, or simply curious about the intersection of culture and psychotherapy, this episode offers an honest conversation about visibility, identity, community and the courage to bring your whole self into the room.
Surving Year 1: Growth, Doubt and Breakthroughs (Part 2)
Season 1 · Episode 7
Wednesday, May 20, 2026 • Duration 58:02
Part 2 Show Blurb
Following on from Part 1, the hosts of TA Therapy Ain’t Just White continue the conversation by exploring another side of psychotherapy training that often stays beneath the surface — the cost of becoming.
In this second part, Mike, Wendy and Craig move beyond first-year reflections and unpack the hidden realities of Transactional Analysis training: the emotional cost, the financial pressures, the impact on relationships, time, identity and the people around you. Together they explore what happens when therapy training begins to shape not only the therapist you are becoming, but the person you are outside the training room too.
From navigating marriages, friendships and family dynamics, to balancing supervision, placements, work, finances and personal therapy, the conversation explores the sacrifices, tensions and unexpected moments of growth that come with committing to this journey. The team also speak candidly about accessibility within psychotherapy training, representation within TA spaces, and the barriers many people from marginalised communities can face when considering whether this path is even possible.
With honesty, humour and lived experience, the discussion opens up bigger questions: Who gets to become a therapist? Who sees themselves reflected in training spaces? And what changes when people begin showing up authentically and taking up space?
The conversation also begins looking ahead. As TA Therapy Ain’t Just White moves into future episodes and into reflections on Year Two training, the podcast will be opening its doors to guests from different backgrounds and experiences. Together, the team will explore deeper conversations around placement work, supervision, culture, clinical practice, identity, growth and the realities of becoming a therapist while navigating life at the same time.
SURVIVING YEAR 1: GROWTH, DOUBT AND BREEAKTHROUGH
Wednesday, April 22, 2026 • Duration 54:32
Episode 6: SURVIVING YEAR 1: GROWTH, DOUBT AND BREEAKTHROUGH
In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, the hosts of TA Therapy Ain’t Just White reflect honestly on the highs and lows of their first year of Transactional Analysis training — the parts no one fully prepares you for.
From personal therapy and group process to placement experiences, identity shifts, vulnerability, and self-discovery, this episode explores what it means to keep showing up when the training starts working on you as much as the theory itself. The team share moments of doubt, growth, connection, and challenge, alongside the unexpected ways TA language begins to make sense of real-life experience and the work they were already doing before training.
They also speak openly about race, belonging, safety in training spaces, and what it can feel like to find — or sometimes question — your place within the therapeutic community while learning to become a therapist.
Whether you’re thinking about starting therapy training, already in your first year, or somewhere further along the journey and recognising parts of your own experience in this conversation, this episode offers reassurance that the discomfort, questions, and breakthroughs are all part of becoming.
If you're curious about Transactional Analysis and want to explore training or resources further, you can learn more through organisations such as the UK Association for Transactional Analysis, the European Association for Transactional Analysis, the International Transactional Analysis Association, and the UK Council for Psychotherapy.
A real conversation about growth, uncertainty, identity, and becoming.
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From Skeleton Racer to Psychotherapist
Season 1 · Episode 5
Wednesday, April 1, 2026 • Duration 41:58
Episode 5: A Story of Identity, Resilience & Reinvention
What happens when your whole identity is built on performance… and then, in a moment, everything changes?
In this episode, we sit down with Jordan — a qualified psychotherapist with a story that stops you in your tracks.
From a childhood filled with sport to competing at an elite level, Jordan’s life was built on speed, discipline, and pushing limits. Selected for a world-class Olympic programme, she was on track for the Winter Games — racing headfirst down ice tracks at extreme speeds, chasing excellence at the highest level.
And then, without warning… everything changed.
At just 23, Jor'dan suffered a brain haemorrhage.
What follows is not just a story of recovery — but of identity being completely stripped back. From elite athlete to relearning how to walk, hold objects, and rebuild from the ground up… physically, emotionally, and mentally.
But this isn’t where the story ends.
It’s where something new begins.
In this powerful and honest conversation, we explore:
The hidden impact of losing your identity overnight
What resilience really looks like when everything falls apart
How sport shapes mental strength — and how that carries into therapy
The journey from survival… to purpose
And how Jor'dan found her way into psychotherapy — not by accident, but through something deeper
We also step into her work as a therapist, exploring how integrative approaches, attachment, and early experiences shape the way we see ourselves — and how awareness creates choice.
Culture & The Functional Ego State - Meet Your Inner Crew
Season 1 · Episode 4
Wednesday, March 18, 2026 • Duration 41:55
Culture & The Functional Ego State - Meet Your Inner Crew
What if the way you think, react, and relate… isn’t just you?
What if it’s shaped by generations before you — by culture, by survival, by voices you didn’t even realise you inherited?
In this episode, we explore the Functional Ego State in Transactional Analysis — not just what it is, but how it lives in you.
From the nurturing voice that comforts you…To the critical voice that holds you back…From the part of you that learned to adapt just to belong…To the version of you that still longs to be free.
But this isn’t just theory.
Through honest and reflective conversation, we unpack how culture shapes the way we show up — especially within the context of navigating the our cultural backgrounds to the culture we are in today, where unspoken rules, expectations, and hierarchy quietly influence how we think, behave, and express ourselves.
We explore the tension many people carry:Between “fit in, follow the rules, trust authority”…And the quieter pull toward individuality, expression, and thinking for yourself.
Along the way, we begin to notice:
How cultural messages become internal voices
How adaptation can protect us… but also silence us
Why the “Free” part of you might not feel so free
And how the Adult ego state helps you pause, reflect, and choose differently
And we sit with one powerful question:
THE THREE PHILOSOPHICAL PRINCIPLES: POWERS TO THINK, FEEL AND CHANGE
Season 1 · Episode 3
Wednesday, March 4, 2026 • Duration 44:06
TA Therapy Ain’t Just White – Episode 3The Three Philosophical Principles: Power to Think, Feel and Change
Welcome back to TA Therapy Ain’t Just White, the podcast where psychotherapy meets real conversation, cultural awareness, and the beautifully complex experience of being human.
In this episode, we explore the three philosophical principles that underpin Transactional Analysis (TA):
People are OK Everyone has the capacity to think People decide their own destiny — and those decisions can be changed
But rather than simply accepting these ideas as theory, we begin to ask a deeper question:
What happens when these principles meet the realities of culture, race, history and lived experience?
This isn’t a textbook breakdown of TA. This is TA theory meeting real life.
Together, Wendy, Mike and Robyn unpack these foundational ideas through the lens of identity, history and global context. The conversation moves through themes such as apartheid, the significance of Nelson Mandela becoming South Africa’s first Black president, the legacy of intelligence testing within education systems, Black Lives Matter, and the experience of growing up within cultures shaped by inequality and “othering”.
Robyn reflects on growing up under apartheid and how societal messaging can shape a person’s sense of worth and belonging. Mike explores intergenerational experiences of being “on alert” within Caribbean and Jewish heritage, asking how much anxiety is personal and how much may be culturally inherited. Wendy challenges the language of equality through the lens of systemic injustice and contemporary movements for social change.
EGO STATE: WHO'S IN CHARGE
Season 1 · Episode 2
Thursday, February 19, 2026 • Duration 43:14
Episode Blurb: Ego States Through a Cultural Lens
In this episode of TA Therapy Ain’t Just White, we dive deep into one of the foundations of Transactional Analysis: ego state theory, and we do it our way.
We begin with a grounded and accessible introduction to Eric Berne, the psychiatrist who broke away from psychoanalysis to create Transactional Analysis. We explore how his ideas emerged from a very particular Western, post war, white male context, and why that matters when we are trying to make therapy more inclusive today.
From there, we break down the structural and functional ego state models, unpacking the classic Parent, Adult and Child states in a way that is real, relatable and rooted in lived experience. No jargon. No gatekeeping. Just honest conversation about how these states show up in our bodies, our relationships and our cultures.
Then we get personal.
Our Stories: Where Culture Meets Ego State
Each of us brings our own heritage, migration story and internal messages to the table.
Wendy, Black British with dual heritage who has lived in the United States “My British Parent says, keep calm and do not make a fuss. But my American experience says, speak your truth. My Child wants to burst out and my Parent whispers, be quiet.”
Craig, Zimbabwean who moved to the United Kingdom as a child “My Zimbabwean Parent said, do not shame the family, education is survival. But UK teachers wanted me to speak up. My Child did not know which rulebook to follow.”
, South African expat
Who's In The Room?
Season 1 · Episode 1
Wednesday, February 4, 2026 • Duration 35:24
Welcome to TA Therapy Ain't Just White, the podcast where therapy meets real talk,
representation, and the beautiful chaos of being human. You'll be hearing from four
transactional analysis trainees from marginalised backgrounds sharing their journey through
training, theory, and life. Whether you're curious about therapy or ready into TA or just want
honest conversations about identity and growth, this space is for you.
Let meet the Trainee Psychotherapist...
Mike:
I’m mixed Jamaican and white British Jewish heritage. Originally from Yorkshire, I lived in London for a bit and now call the Midlands home with my wife and two sons. After a successful career in corporate healthcare, I’m following my instincts, changing direction and retraining as a Relational TA Therapist.
Craig:
Born in Zimbabwe, I moved to England at six and have spent the last twenty years constantly on the move — from Newcastle to London, Leicester, Milton Keynes, Northampton, and now Nottingham- a life shaped by movement, change, and searching. And honestly… that’s only part of the story.
Football was my first dream. I had academy opportunities and believed that was my future. But at eighteen, life pivoted hard, landing me in nightclub management — where leadership, pressure, and people became my real education.
By my mid-twenties, I transitioned into healthcare, becoming a registered manager supporting young adults with autism and learning disabilities. It was there I realised management alone wasn’t enough — people needed deeper understanding, not just systems.
At the same time, my faith was being reignited. Returning to Christianity reshaped everything, leading me onto a path of deeper purpose. Now, I’m training as a psychotherapist — committed to healing, growth, and helping people make sense of their story.
TATAJW Launch Trailer
Saturday, January 31, 2026 • Duration 02:57
You don’t need to know about Transactional Analysis (TA) or be in training or therapy to listen. We talk openly about culture, identity, and psychotherapy in plain language, with honesty, curiosity, and respect. This is a space to learn, reflect, and feel like you belong — because in TA, we believe we are all OK.
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The Road by Ketsa
Feelings by 1000 Handz Beats
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“The Road” by Ketsa Licensed underCreative Commons Attribution 4.0 (CC BY 4.0)
“Feelings” by 1000 Handz Beatz underCreative Commons Attribution 4.0 (CC BY 4.0)
Intro and Outro Voice: - Robert, Birmingham
Post-production, editing and transcription: – Candice, Johannesburg
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"The Road" by KetsaLicensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 (CC BY 4.0)
"Feelings" by 1000 Handz BeatzLicensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 (CC BY 4.0)
Intro and Outro Voice: Robert, Birmingham
Post-production, editing and transcription: Candice Nolan, Johannesburg
Whether you're thinking about starting psychotherapy training, are already somewhere on the journey, or are simply curious about therapy through a more inclusive and honest lens, this episode offers reassurance that growth is rarely neat, change often comes with challenge, and none of us were meant to do it alone.
A real conversation about cost, change, identity and becoming.
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Intro and Outro Voice: Robert, Birmingham Post-production, editing and transcription: Candice Nolan, Johannesburg
Intro and Outro Voice: - Robert, Birmingham
Post-production, editing and transcription: – Candice Nolan, Johannesburg
This episode is raw, reflective, and deeply human.
Because sometimes the life you thought you were building… is only the beginning of who you’re meant to become.
🎧 Listen now — and you might start to see your own story differently.
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💭 How much of your voice is truly yours… and how much has been inherited?
This episode isn’t just about understanding ego states — It’s an invitation to notice them in real time.
👉 Who shows up when you’re under pressure? 👉 What part of you is leading your decisions? 👉 Are you responding from awareness… or from adaptation?
Stay grounded. Stay curious. Stay you.
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As the conversation unfolds, the team also reflects on a world where more than fifty active conflicts continue to dehumanise entire communities. This raises an important question: are the philosophical principles of TA universal truths, or hopeful ideals that must evolve to remain meaningful across cultures?
The discussion also moves beyond individualism and explores ideas of interconnectedness. Concepts such as homonomy — the movement from autonomy into relationship — and Ubuntu, the belief that “I am because we are,” invite a more collective and relational understanding of what it means to be human.
Although Craig is unable to join this episode as he recovers, his voice and perspective remain present in the ongoing dialogue as the team continues to wrestle with a central question:
How do we hold onto the belief that “people are OK” in a world shaped by trauma, inequality and systemic harm?
This episode goes beyond theory. It is a conversation about dignity, culture, identity and the possibility of change — not only within individuals, but within the systems that shape our lives.
TA Therapy Ain’t Just White is a podcast created by four Transactional Analysis trainees from marginalised backgrounds, widening the lens of psychotherapy and making space for voices not always centred in therapy spaces.
If something in this episode made you pause, reflect or feel seen, please share the conversation.
Stay grounded.Stay curious.Stay you.
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“Back home, the Parent message was respect authority. In the UK, my Adult has to translate between South African directness and British politeness.”
Mike, dual heritage Caribbean and white Jewish “Caribbean Parent voices say, stand tall and do not take disrespect. Jewish voices say, question everything. My Adult is basically a peace negotiator.”
These stories open the door to bigger questions.
Are some cultures more comfortable with the Child state, creativity, emotion and play, while others push us into Parent or Adult?
How do race, migration and colonial history shape the Critical Parent messages we inherit?
If Transactional Analysis was built within a Western framework, what needs reimagining or decolonising so it reflects our lived realities?
Are UK therapy spaces truly ready to hear different Parent voices, or do they try to fit us into a narrow model?
This episode is not just theory. It is identity, culture and psychology colliding in real time.
So sit back, lean in and join us as we journey through ego states with honesty, humour and the courage to question the models we have inherited.
Because therapy is not just white or black, and neither are the stories that shape us.
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And trust me… this still isn’t the full picture.
Wendy:
Life-long learner, interested in issues around the intersectionality of race, gender, and cultural identity and how to show up as oneself in spaces as a minoritized person. Born in the UK to a White British and a Caribbean parent but lived and worked in the United States for some time, which has shaped my understanding around the systemic influences on identity and socio-political structures that support inequality and injustice.
Robyn:🇿🇦🇬🇧
Born in South Africa and living in the UK since the mid-2000s, Robyn is proud of her Coloured heritage and her lifelong focus on community and family. Married for over 20 years with teenage children, she’s now stepping into a new chapter as a psychotherapist, building on years of supporting children, young people, and families, including those with special educational needs—and her earlier work supporting adults with addictions. When she’s not working, she loves walking outdoors, being near the ocean🌊, and exploring creativity through theatre 🎭 and the arts🎨.
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The Road by Ketsa
Feelings by 1000 Handz Beats
From: Freemusicarchive.org
Music:
“The Road” by Ketsa Licensed underCreative Commons Attribution 4.0 (CC BY 4.0)
“Feelings” by 1000 Handz Beatz underCreative Commons Attribution 4.0 (CC BY 4.0)
Intro and Outro Voice: - Robert, Birmingham
Post-production, editing and transcription: – Candice, Johannesburg
