Talent acquisition is changing faster than it ever has before. ChatGPT and other GenAI tools are literally turning the selection process on its head. This podcast is designed for disruptive Talent Acquisition leaders who want to get ahead. For the innovators, the movers and shakers, and the TA leaders who will survive and thrive in this new era by moving quickly to future-proof their recruitment processes. Even when you’re feeling overworked and overwhelmed, we’ll help you keep up with the latest ideas from the industry’s brightest innovators and the freshest need-to-know data from new research. TA Disruptors has got you covered.
All brought to you from the team behind Arctic Shores.
What 3 million data points say we need to hire for and select in the era of the AI-enabled candidate – introducing Skill-enablers™
Season 2 · Episode 10
Thursday, October 3, 2024 • Duration 39:18
There’s been a lot of debate recently about whether AI changes what we need to select for, to predict candidate success. But the reality is that most companies have needed to reframe how they select for quite some time.
At the end of 2022, Arctic Shores’ Senior Psychometrician Luke Montouri and Senior Applied Psychologist Sanchia Dennis set out to review a huge data set with one key objective –– to understand which skills, competencies, and behaviours would be most predictive of candidate success in the “future of work”. And to establish how psychometric assessment measures would need to evolve to select for them.
What they uncovered is as true today as it was back in 2022 – and the advancement of Generative AI has made it even more urgent for talent acquisition teams to rethink how they select.
In this episode, Luke and Sanchia join Robert to unpack the research and science they used to update the Arctic Shores assessment model, and the wider implications of their findings for TA teams. Listen to learn:
📊 What the three factors most predictive of success in an AI-enabled workplace are –– according to an extensive analysis of data from the likes of McKinsey and the World Economic Forum; customer competency frameworks; and a decade’s worth of data-informed by 3 million candidate assessments (including subsequent workplace performance)
💡 Why evaluating Skill-enablers™ –– the core human traits that inform our ability to acquire new skills, navigate change, and adapt –– is (mostly) mission-critical for any employer from today. And when you might not want to evaluate a candidate’s Skill-enablers™
🚀 A deep dive into what the Skill-enabler™ model is – and why evaluating traits that go beyond technical capabilities to assess interpersonal abilities, self-management, and decision-making is essential in the age of the AI-enabled workplace
🔍 And why we need to move beyond the traditional five-factor model to unlock new ways to understand and assess potential –– plus insights into why we need to rethink how we measure cognitive ability (and the issues with traditional approaches)
Dive in to understand more about the data that is shaping the future of talent acquisition and how organisations’ should be thinking about identifying high-potential candidates in a fast-changing world.
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PwC’s Harriet Newlyn on ripping up TA’s rule book - AI, navigating skills-first hiring, and the social mobility agenda
Season 2 · Episode 9
Thursday, September 26, 2024 • Duration 51:10
Talent transformation and the shift to becoming a skills-first organisation has been a hot topic for years. And now AI is turning the pressure gauge up to boiling point, even the biggest industry players are feeling the impact.
Enter Harriet Newlyn –– a Partner in PwC UK’s HR Transformation and Technology practice who spent the last decade leading large-scale HR transformation programmes for major multinationals. And she has some robust thoughts on what this next era of radical change has in store for TA teams.
If you’re feeling overwhelmed by mounting pressure from the C-suite to dramatically improve productivity and efficiency, while simultaneously making the shift to becoming a skills-first organisation and upgrading your recruitment process for the AI-era, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.
Join Robert and Harriet for the latest episode of the TA Disruptors podcast as they dive into:
💡 Lessons from PwC’s transition to a skills-first organisation – Harriet shares practical advice on how PwC made their skills taxonomy much easier to manage and gives the inside track on how her team are thinking about preparing their 350,000 people for a workplace with rapidly changing skill requirements
🔥 How to use skills-based hiring to improve social mobility – Harriet shares the bold, transformative thinking moves she believes every organisation should be made to support a socially mobile workforce –– from ditching CV screening, to opening up the talent pool to those with criminal records
🤖 How to think about your workforce transformation strategy in light of AI - If AI is set to disrupt half of all roles in the future, what should your strategy to support your workforce through this transition look like? Harriet shares her advice.
💥 Why AI-enabled organisations must be human-led – As AI evolves, it won’t always make decisions aligned with the purpose or sustainability of a business –– Harriet shares her thinking on how to set up AI governance to ensure it serves the organisation's long-term vision.
Recruitment in the era of the AI-enabled candidate. Skills-based hiring. And so much more | The best bits from season one with Robert Newry and guests
Season 1 · Episode 8
Thursday, February 1, 2024 • Duration 29:42
Somehow we’ve reached the end of season one of the TA Disruptors podcast… and what a ride it’s been.
If you want to remind yourself of the biggest takeaways from this season all in one place, you’ll want to listen to this episode. Join Robert as he shares the best bits from season one and reflects on what we’ve learned throughout our first season of the TA Disruptors podcast, as well as sharing his thoughts on where Talent Acquisition will go next.
As an increasing number of candidates started to use AI to land their dream roles, we kickstarted the season with a breakdown of new data that helped us understand the repercussions for assessment and selection –– according to research conducted by data scientists and post-graduate researchers at UCL.
As the season went on, we got practical with insights from the likes of HelloFresh, the Government Skills and Curriculum Unit, and AMS –– who shared practical advice on navigating the era of the AI-enabled candidate and tips on how AI to drive efficiencies and save time.
👉 Listen carefully as there’s also a season two teaser in store for you…
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“GenAI threatens the validity and fairness of traditional assessments” | Claudia Nuttgens discusses how AMS is rethinking skills-based hiring and the problems with using SJTs
Season 1 · Episode 7
Thursday, January 25, 2024 • Duration 45:56
Claudia Nuttgens is a TA powerhouse. As a Chartered Occupational Psychologist and Executive Coach with over 20 years of experience –– and as the leader of the highly-regarded Assessment Advisory team at AMS –– Claudia’s perspectives on where we must innovate across our assessment and selection strategies this year are ones that every TA team needs to hear.
Whether you’re looking for advice on how to redesign your selection process in light of candidate adoption of GenAI or whether you’re curious about where an experienced and innovative psychologist thinks our traditional assessment methods are falling short, you won’t want to miss this episode.
Join Claudia and Robert Newry for episode seven of the TA Disruptors podcast as they discuss…
🤖Why GenAI means there’s now a big validity problemwithin traditional assessment tools –– dive into the data behind why you need to stop using verbal reasoning tests and simple SJTs to maintain a predictive, scalable assessment process
⏭️ What comes next –– Practical ideas on how to efficiently and predictively screen candidates at high volume and why going back to first principles to look holistically at the design of the assessment process should be fun
📚 Theories on why adverse impact is getting worse in some areas of cognitive ability testing –– Robert and Claudia debate the flaws in the education system which mean that –– especially in Early Careers –– candidates are ill-equipped to complete cognitive ability testing in the way they once were, effectively de-leveling the playing field
📉 The erosion of skills –– If the education system failing candidates wasn’t enough,is GenAI now also leading to an erosion of candidate skills? How do we differentiate between what a machine can do and what a human can do? And which skills are about to become most important?
Does AI make human qualities less relevant than they were before? Hung Lee on five controversial questions facing TA teams and the problem with mass apply tech
Season 1 · Episode 6
Thursday, January 18, 2024 • Duration 44:56
We’re starting 2024 with a bang, as we dive head-on into some of the most controversial questions TA teams must find an answer to this year with Recruiting Brainfood’s Hung Lee.
Before you switch off, this is not another 2024 trends report. Instead, it’s a thoughtful, deeply considered, scarily accurate deep dive into the reality facing TA teams this January… with some uncomfortable truths that the less disruptive among us might not want to hear.
With a community of more than 60,000 recruiters at his fingertips, if anyone has their finger on the pulse of the reality for TA teams… it’s Hung.
Here are the big questions that put TA teams into very uncomfortable ground…
💥 What does the AI-enabled candidate mean for the future of recruitment and can we really still get away with calling candidate use of GenAI cheating?
🎪 Is the only answer to battling ‘Mass Apply’ technology to go back to open hiring, what does that mean for social mobility, and are some TA teams seriously considering making getting a job feel as potluck as getting tickets to Glastonbury?
🧠 Will AI force a wave of de-skilling? Are human qualities less relevant than they were before? And can we imagine a world in which AI could adopt or replace skills like critical thinking, creativity, and coachability?
🤖 In a world where TA teams and candidates can take advantage of new tech, what does a world of recruitment look like where we simply have AI talking to AI? Is that scalable, does it offer the same level of accurate screening, and is it even ethical…?
😱 Is asking the state to mandate how we develop and recruit future talent the only answer to creating a truly equitable hiring process?
Finally, if you want to hear the hot take that inspired Robert to call “Hung for Prime Minister!” you won’t want to miss this episode.
“GenAI makes it EASIER for us to assess skills, not harder" | JLL's Global Talent Sourcing Director, Amanda Pleasant on driving AI adoption, building JLL-GPT, and implementing skills-first hiring
Season 1 · Episode 5
Thursday, December 7, 2023 • Duration 45:43
Amanda Pleasant is JLL’s Global Talent Sourcing Director. She's responsible for a global team of Sourcers across 80 countries, filling around 30,000 roles a year. And she’s taking every single one of them on a journey to embrace GenAI.
If you’re wondering how to drive internal transformation, embed a culture of experimentation, and drive the adoption of new tech across a global team, you’ll want to hear what Amanda has to say.
From inspiring change to getting her team to think more like marketers, to improving the diversity of their talent pools, this episode is full of practical insights you’ll want to action right away.
Join Amanda and Robert Newry for episode five of the TA Disruptors podcast as they discuss…
How to build people's confidence in experimenting with GenAI and drive widespread adoption
How to use your internal training mechanisms to take people from feeling fear to getting curious and excited about the possibilities new tech presents for them
Why JLL built their own version of ChatGPT –– JLL-GPT –– and why it means they’re redefining productivity internally, plus insights into how they’re using their custom-GPT to remove dull, repetitive tasks and free up their sourcing team to focus on being human
How Generative AI actually enables a shift to skills-first hiring, which means you can lower degree requirements, and activate internal mobility.
Download the episode now for unmissable insights. We promise it will be the most valuable podcast you listen to this week.
Siadhal Magos of Metaview on lessons from hiring at Uber, whether AI can actually reduce bias, and AI’s role in decision-making – fresh debate on where ethics and efficiency collide
Season 1 · Episode 4
Thursday, November 30, 2023 • Duration 42:50
Siadhal Magos founded Metaview after going through an intense period of scaling at Uber. The business went from 7,000 to 15,000 people in just 24 months. And while he was highly tech-enabled in other areas of his work, hiring felt like it was lagging behind.
Even as a hiring manager he felt the pain, inefficiency, and toil of the hiring process, and realised that TA teams must have been feeling this ten-fold.
That’s where Metaview was born. And four years later, Generative AI exploded into the world and helped him and his team advance the much-loved service they offer recruiters by light years. And in just a few months.
As an AI expert with a philosophical viewpoint, Siadhal joins Robert in the latest episode of the TA Disruptors podcast to dive into the big questions like…
The ethical conundrum of AI-driven decision making… If AI now exhibits Mensa-levels of reasoning capability… should it be allowed to make a hiring decision?
In a world where AI can process 25,000 to 50,000 data points at lightning speed, is the human still the alpha?
Which drudgery work can AI take away and which human, recruitment skills have suddenly become worth their weight in gold?
If a lot of instances of bias come from people taking ‘shortcuts’, is there a role for AI to intervene and actually reduce bias in the interview process?
How much do TA teams really need to know about AI to make good decisions about where to use it?
Why the team behind the Civil Service Fast Stream are cautiously optimistic about an AI-enabled world –– balancing efficiency and ethics, redesigning assessment, and building algorithms
Season 1 · Episode 3
Thursday, November 23, 2023 • Duration 44:55
The Director of Government Skills at the Cabinet Office, Sonia Pawson IS currently spearheading a team of 250 talent professionals responsible for delivering some of the most highly regarded graduate programmes in the UK, including the Civil Service Fast Stream.
As a chartered occupational psychologist, Sonia is one of a rare breed able to balance being an academic and a practitioner to deliver outstanding results. In fact, Sonia and her team are already approaching AI with cautious optimism, redesigning their selection process to embrace Generative AI while still capturing an accurate picture of a candidate’s true potential...
For episode three of the TA Disruptors podcast, you'll discover…
How and where her team are embracing and integrating AI into the selection process, and how they’re balancing improving efficiency with maintaining high ethical standards, and predictability
How they brought together analysts, data scientists, and psychologists to experiment with a new algorithm to reduce their internal mobility process by 10 working days, how they use ‘sandboxes’ to safely test new ideas –– from chatbots to algorithms –– in a controlled environment, and how they make sure these new AI tools are fair and bias-free together
Details into the analysis that Sonia’s team did to conclude that the CV is not as predictive as an assessment, why the age of ChatGPT means the CV is now well and truly unreliable and outdated. Plus, Sonia shares how the civil service are moving away from traditional language-based psychometric tests, towards an assessment that is task-based and interactive to measure behaviours in a way that is truly accurate and predictive.
The data points that show that candidate use of Generative AI is here, and why now it’s time for TA leaders to tackle usage head-on. Robert and Sonia pose the question… can you really afford to wait to do the same?
HelloFresh WANT candidates to apply using GenAI –– Yasar Ahmad on why he’s making the application process harder, Talent 6.0, and driving innovation in a 200-strong TA team
Season 1 · Episode 2
Thursday, November 16, 2023 • Duration 53:10
Yasar Ahmad is the Global Vice President of Talent, Mobility and Rewards at HelloFresh. And he WANTS candidates to apply for roles at HelloFresh using GenAI. Join our TA Disruptors podcast host, Robert Newry, as he and Yasar unpack:
How HelloFresh are approaching Talent 6.0
Why candidates applying for 100s of roles with just one click is a GOOD thing for TA teams… And why we need to act now to adapt the selection process so we’re climbing a hill, not a mountain.
Why getting candidates to disqualify themselves actually drives UP engagement EVEN when you make the process harder (we’re talking 20% > 90%)
Why you need to rethink your recruitment funnel and how to use guerilla marketing tactics to drive up conversion rates at every stage
How Yasar’s 200-strong team live the Fast Followers mantra, how they’re experimenting with GenAI for themselves to claw back 40% of their workload, and why that isn’t as complicated as you think
Why GenAI means the death of the vanity metric once and for all and why MORE candidates doesn’t mean BETTER candidates.
Download the episode now for unmissable insights. We promise it will be the most valuable podcast you listen to this week.
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"ChatGPT means we need a workforce that’s MORE skilled, not less” | Senior Data Scientist, Jasper Wolf discusses how ChatGPT is transforming recruitment
Season 1 · Episode 1
Thursday, November 9, 2023 • Duration 46:39
Why are some Talent Acquisition leaders having to resift, scrap text-based applications altogether, or go back to manually screening every candidate?
What does the education sector’s approach to Generative AI tell us about the tidal wave of change that is about to make itself known in assessment and selection? When people talk about the ethical conundrum that tools like ChatGPT put recruiters in, what do they actually mean?
Arctic Shores CEO and co-founder, Robert Newry, is joined by Senior Data Scientist, Jasper Wolf, as they unpack the results of a scientific study on ChatGPT’s capabilities and a survey of more than 2,000 students and recent graduates on their adoption and attitudes towards GenAI.
Join them as they uncover the research methodology used to test ChatGPT vs Verbal Reasoning Tests, Aptitude Tests, Personality Assessments, and Task-based Assessments, and what they found about where it can outperform the average human candidate and where it can’t. Plus, their predictions on what this means for the future of skills-based hiring. The usage of Generative AI in assessment and selection isn’t going anywhere. If you are in any doubt or if you want to know what to do next, you must listen to this podcast 🚀
There’s a tidal wave of change coming our way, and this is only the start.
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Talent acquisition is changing faster than it ever has before. ChatGPT and other GenAI tools are literally turning the selection process on its head. This podcast is designed for disruptive Talent Acquisition leaders who want to get ahead. For the innovators, the movers and shakers, and the TA leaders who will survive and thrive in this new era by moving quickly to future-proof their recruitment processes. Even when you’re feeling overworked and overwhelmed, we’ll help you keep up with the latest ideas from the industry’s brightest innovators and the freshest need-to-know data from new research. TA Disruptors has got you covered.
All brought to you from the team behind Arctic Shores.
Talent acquisition is changing faster than it ever has before. ChatGPT and other GenAI tools are literally turning the selection process on its head. This podcast is designed for disruptive Talent Acquisition leaders who want to get ahead. For the innovators, the movers and shakers, and the TA leaders who will survive and thrive in this new era by moving quickly to future-proof their recruitment processes. Even when you’re feeling overworked and overwhelmed, we’ll help you keep up with the latest ideas from the industry’s brightest innovators and the freshest need-to-know data from new research. TA Disruptors has got you covered.
All brought to you from the team behind Arctic Shores.
🧠 The challenges that opening up your funnel to improve diversity now presents for TA teams –– as well as the benefits, plus insights into how improve your assessment and selection to help high-potential neurodiverse candidates thrive
💥 Finally, why the era of the AI-enabled candidate means we need to stop trying to take power away from hiring managers and why it’s time to show them a bit more empathy
Download the episode now for unmissable insights. We promise it will be the most valuable podcast you listen to this week 👉 *link*
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Talent acquisition is changing faster than it ever has before. ChatGPT and other GenAI tools are literally turning the selection process on its head. This podcast is designed for disruptive Talent Acquisition leaders who want to get ahead. For the innovators, the movers and shakers, and the TA leaders who will survive and thrive in this new era by moving quickly to future-proof their recruitment processes. Even when you’re feeling overworked and overwhelmed, we’ll help you keep up with the latest ideas from the industry’s brightest innovators and the freshest need-to-know data from new research. TA Disruptors has got you covered.
All brought to you from the team behind Arctic Shores.
Sign up for the TA Disruptors newsletter - it's the easiest way to be updated with the industry’s brightest ideas and the freshest need-to-know data - every week:
Talent acquisition is changing faster than it ever has before. ChatGPT and other GenAI tools are literally turning the selection process on its head. This podcast is designed for disruptive Talent Acquisition leaders who want to get ahead. For the innovators, the movers and shakers, and the TA leaders who will survive and thrive in this new era by moving quickly to future-proof their recruitment processes. Even when you’re feeling overworked and overwhelmed, we’ll help you keep up with the latest ideas from the industry’s brightest innovators and the freshest need-to-know data from new research. TA Disruptors has got you covered.
All brought to you from the team behind Arctic Shores.
If you’re wondering what AI is capable of and how it could be solving the thing that keeps your team up at night – whether it’s hours of laborious manual processes to try and find high-quality candidates, inconsistent decision-making between hiring managers, or trying to stop your team from burning out – this podcast is for you.
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Talent acquisition is changing faster than it ever has before. ChatGPT and other Generative AI tools are literally turning the selection process on its head. This podcast is designed for disruptive Talent Acquisition leaders who want to get ahead. For the innovators, the movers and shakers, and the TA leaders who will survive and thrive in this new era by moving quickly to future-proof their recruitment processes TA leaders are some of the hardest-working folks we know, so even if you’re overworked or overwhelmed, we’ll help you keep up. Get the latest ideas from the TA industry’s brightest innovators and the freshest need-to-know data from the latest research 🚀
All brought to you from the team behind Arctic Shores.
Talent acquisition is changing faster than it ever has before. ChatGPT and other GenAI tools are literally turning the selection process on its head. This podcast is designed for disruptive Talent Acquisition leaders who want to get ahead. For the innovators, the movers and shakers, and the TA leaders who will survive and thrive in this new era by moving quickly to future-proof their recruitment processes. Even when you’re feeling overworked and overwhelmed, we’ll help you keep up with the latest ideas from the industry’s brightest innovators and the freshest need-to-know data from new research. TA Disruptors has got you covered.
All brought to you from the team behind Arctic Shores.
Talent acquisition is changing faster than it ever has before. ChatGPT and other GenAI tools are literally turning the selection process on its head. This podcast is designed for disruptive Talent Acquisition leaders who want to get ahead. For the innovators, the movers and shakers, and the TA leaders who will survive and thrive in this new era by moving quickly to future-proof their recruitment processes. Even when you’re feeling overworked and overwhelmed, we’ll help you keep up with the latest ideas from the industry’s brightest innovators and the freshest need-to-know data from new research. TA Disruptors has got you covered.
All brought to you from the team behind Arctic Shores.
Talent acquisition is changing faster than it ever has before. ChatGPT and other Generative AI tools are literally turning the selection process on its head. This podcast is designed for disruptive Talent Acquisition leaders who want to get ahead. For the innovators, the movers and shakers, and the TA leaders who will survive and thrive in this new era by moving quickly to future-proof their recruitment processes TA leaders are some of the hardest-working folks we know, so even if you’re overworked or overwhelmed, we’ll help you keep up. Get the latest ideas from the TA industry’s brightest innovators and the freshest need-to-know data from the latest research 🚀
All brought to you from the team behind Arctic Shores.
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