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Spiraling Up — Marketing For Professional Services
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Frequency: 1 episode/13d. Total Eps: 27

Tired of dry, predictable marketing podcasts? Us too. Welcome to Spiraling Up—the show that puts a playful twist on professional services marketing.
A few times each month, you'll hear Pivotal Stories about the hottest B2B marketing research and trends before diving headfirst into interactive games and challenges with marketing leaders, Visible Experts™, and practitioners.
Whether you’re spearheading marketing and business development efforts or building your expertise in the field, this podcast is your go-to resource for actionable insights and real-world advice with a fun twist!
Hosted by Austin McNair, Joe Pope, and Mary-Blanche Kraemer.
Join us as we spiral up with the brightest minds in professional services marketing. Get ready to laugh, learn, and level up your marketing game! Subscribe Today.
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Decoding Marketing ROI + How to Activate Your Business Video Strategy, with Dane Frederiksen
Season 1 · Episode 2
mercredi 12 mars 2025 • Duration 55:26
How can professional services firms get started with video marketing?
Yes, it is possible to get started with video, even right now! In this episode of Spiraling Up, Austin, Joe, and MB explore whether or not professional services marketers can actually measure ROI on their marketing. And then video producer Dane Frederiksen joins the show to play a game called 'fill in the blank.' In this fun conversation, we cover:
- The biggest mistakes firms make when starting with video
- The most important element of a video marketing strategy
- What to consider when scripting videos
- Keys to creating high quality content, consistently
- The best type of video for showcasing thought leadership
- How many times you should post videos per week
- How to use videos for client testimonials
- The future of video marketing
Connect with Dane on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/digitalaccomplice/
Visit the Digital Accomplice website: https://www.digitalaccomplice.com/
Marketing Lessons from the Super Bowl + the High Growth Firms
Season 1 · Episode 1
vendredi 7 mars 2025 • Duration 53:53
How do High Growth professional services firms go to market today? Download the 2025 High Growth Study to find out: https://www.hingemarketing.com/highgrowth
In this episode of Spiraling Up, the gang draws parallels between Super Bowl advertisements and professional services marketing. Then, Austin tries to trick Joe and MB in a marketing game of “Fact or Fiction” based on the results of Hinge’s recent 2025 High Growth Study. In this episode, you’ll learn:
- If creating content is still the top marketing priority
- What percentage of revenue firms dedicate to marketing today
- The key business challenges firms face, like AI integration
- How proficient firms are in using marketing metrics
- The impact of speaking at targeted events
- The effectiveness of webinars in current marketing strategies
- What type of research High-Growth firms focus on
The 2025 Professional Services Marketing Tactics Draft + Everyday AI Examples
Season 1 · Episode 3
mercredi 26 mars 2025 • Duration 54:56
How do High Growth professional services firms go to market today? Download the 2025 High Growth Study to find out: https://www.hingemarketing.com/highgrowth
In today's episode of Spiraling Up, Austin, Joe, and MB explore the new challenges marketing faces in professional services, especially with the rising influence of AI and automation. Then, they channel the excitement of the NFL Draft by hosting the inaugural marketing tactic draft where each host picks from a selection of high growth efforts to build a championship-caliber campaign for 2025. In this conversation, we cover:
- How AI is changing professional services marketing
- The top challenge marketers want to learn about in 2025
- Differences between networking and speaking at conferences
- The strategic impact of thought leadership and content creation
- Ways social media advertising is being leveraged in B2B
- Effective approaches to presenting in webinars
- The importance of incorporating PR in your marketing strategy
- The role of video blogging in expanding expertise and visibility
Would You Rather: B2B Sales Edition + Is Marketing Attribution Real? with Amy Franko
Season 1 · Episode 5
mercredi 23 avril 2025 • Duration 57:42
How do High Growth professional services firms go to market today? Download the 2025 High Growth Study to find out: https://www.hingemarketing.com/highgrowth
In this episode of Spiraling Up, we discuss whether marketing attribution is a myth, inspired by Sherehan Ross’ hot take on LinkedIn which sparked a debate about revenue as a marketing KPI.
Then, we welcome author, speaker, and sales strategy expert Amy Franko to play a game of ‘Would You Rather: Sales Edition.’ In this fun, gameshow style interview, we explore sales team dynamics, the importance of integrating technology, and practical tips for professional services marketing. In this fun-filled segment, you’ll hear whether Amy would rather…
- measure a marketing team’s performance based on revenue or a combination of core funnel KPIs?
- lead a team that excels in traditional sales tactics but is resistant to change, or a team that's adaptable but less experienced?
- focus on selling to established industries or emerging markets?
- have a salesperson who talks excessively and doesn't effectively listen to the client's needs or one who is too passive and fails to proactively guide the client through the sales process?
- enhance your sales team’s expertise in traditional sales methods or in new technologies such as AI and automation?
BONUS: At the end, we do a rapid-fire ‘lightning’ round with Amy to see how many questions she can answer in 5-minutes.
Connect with Amy Franko on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amyfranko/
Visit Amy Franko’s Website: https://amyfranko.com/
Is LinkedIn Cringe? + Busting Myths About Podcasting, with John Tyreman
Season 1 · Episode 4
mercredi 9 avril 2025 • Duration 48:51
How do High Growth professional services firms go to market today? Download the 2025 High Growth Study to find out: https://www.hingemarketing.com/highgrowth
In today's episode of Spiraling Up, Austin, Joe, and MB look at the cringy side of LinkedIn, exploring some of the most awkward moments on the platform. Then, they welcome podcast expert John Tyreman to debunk common myths about podcasting in professional services, like:
- Myth #1: Podcasts don't work in professional services
- Myth #2: You need a huge audience to start a podcast
- Myth #3: Only charismatic personalities can be successful hosts
- Myth #4: Creating ROI from a podcast is impossible
- Myth #5: Podcasting is a fad that will soon fade away
Connect with John Tyreman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johntyreman/
Visit the Red Cedar Marketing website: https://www.redcedarmarketing.com/
Is SEO DEAD!? + Marketing Superlative Awards
Season 1 · Episode 7
mercredi 21 mai 2025 • Duration 54:19
Download the 2025 High Growth Study Executive Summary:
www.hingemarketing.com/highgrowth
In this episode of Spiraling Up, we tackle the ever-persistent question: Is SEO dead? Join Austin, Joe, and Mary-Blanche as they dive into fascinating new data from SparkToro (@SparkToro ) highlighting Google's dominance and the relevance of SEO best practices. The team also hands out special marketing superlatives, recognizing companies excelling in thought leadership, talent acquisition, past performance, and more. In this episode, you'll hear:
- Is SEO dead? (enough with this nonsense)
- The Black Hole Award
- The Talent Magnet Award
- The Acquisition Amplification Award
- The People Powered Firm Award
- Legacy of Excellence Award
Buy or Sell: Do Billable Hours Sabotage Marketing? with Becca Johns
Season 1 · Episode 6
mercredi 7 mai 2025 • Duration 48:44
How do High Growth professional services firms go to market today? Download the 2025 High Growth Study to find out: https://www.hingemarketing.com/highgrowth
In this episode of Spiraling Up, the Hinge team discusses the complexities of time tracking in professional services, debating its benefits and drawbacks. Then, Becca Johns, an expert in accounting marketing, joins the show to play ‘Buy or Sell?’ where she shares insights on the challenges and potential of marketing in the accounting industry. The conversation touches on marketing strategies, ROI, risk aversion, the impact of marketing on M&A, and the importance of building personal brands.
Fractional EVERYTHING + Business Operations ‘Blind Rankings’ Game with Jen Hamilton
Season 1 · Episode 9
mercredi 18 juin 2025 • Duration 59:10
In this episode of Spiraling Up, the Hinge team dives into the growing trend of fractional executives in professional services. Austin, Mary-Blanche, and Joe are joined by Jen Hamilton, a fractional COO and mentor to COOs, to play a game of “Blind Rankings” in a fun exploration of on-demand work in various aspects of business operations.
LIVE from the 2025 AAM Summit: Pivotal Stories in Accounting Marketing
Season 1 · Episode 8
mercredi 4 juin 2025 • Duration 45:57
Download the 2025 Marketing Budget Benchmark Study Executive Summary: https://accountingmarketing.org/category/surveys-studies-research-and-more/
In this special in-person episode of Spiraling Up, the team attended the 2025 AAM Summit in Phoenix, Arizona. During the event, marketing leaders, practitioners, and industry experts joined the show to share their ‘pivotal stories’ from the event—key learnings, takeaways, and overall impressions. Many common themes bubbled up, like how to build marketing budgets, fostering trust among teams, SEO strategies, and of course, artificial intelligence (AI). Recorded live on the showroom floor, this episode offers a window into one of the accounting industry’s key events.
Google Veo 3 is here and we're DOOMED...or are we? + B2G Power Plays with Megan Battaglia
Season 1 · Episode 10
mercredi 2 juillet 2025 • Duration 54:39
In this episode of Spiraling Up, the team dives into the implications of Google's new AI product, Veo 3, which can generate highly realistic video content from text prompts. What impact will this have on marketing? On humanity?
Then, the hosts welcome Megan Battaglia, VP of Marketing at ThunderCat Technology, for a game of 'B2G Power Plays.' Megan shares valuable insights on building a government-focused marketing strategy, leveraging vendor partnerships, and ensuring event success. Don't miss this engaging discussion on the future of marketing in the B2G space!
00:00 Introduction
05:31 Pivotal Story: Google Veo 3
16:50 Introducing Megan Battaglia
19:13 Power Play 1: Going from Solo Marketer to Small Team
32:35 Power Play 2: Impact of Administration Changes on Marketing
39:13 Power Play 3: Running a Successful Charity Golf Tournament
52:03 Ultimate Power Play: Mission Focus Mindset
53:33 Outro
Connect with Megan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meganbattaglia/
Learn more about ThunderCat: https://www.thundercattech.com/









