Learning as much as I can from interesting people. Expect to hear deep dives into interesting topics, wide-ranging conversations, and perspectives that challenge conventional wisdom. No topics are off limits.
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Hosted by Steven Dimmitt of The Nugget Climbing Podcast.
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How important is fluoride for preventing cavities? And is it safe for us and our kids? Dr. Frank Zelko joins the show to tackle these questions. Dr. Zelko is a professor at the University of Hawaii and has a PhD in environmental history. He is currently working on a book about the history of water fluoridation and the latest research regarding its efficacy and health effects. Expect to go on a fascinating historical journey, and learn about the latest science so you can make your own decision about your drinking water. You can learn more about Dr. Zelko at manoa.hawaii.edu
(01:25:52) – Suppression of anti-fluoride research
(01:28:32) – Parallels & pendulums
(01:31:01) – More recent studies on fluoride
(01:35:37) – The efficacy of fluoridation on cavities
(01:41:43) – The fluoridation for low-income argument
(01:42:40) – Where we’re at now
(01:44:41) – Should we be filtering our water?
(01:50:55) – Toothpaste
(01:55:08) – Tea & other recommendations
(01:58:42) – Politics & fluoride debates
(02:06:27) – Vaccines & serious diseases
(02:10:55) – PFAs, microplastics, & fire retardants
(02:13:59) – Where to find Dr. Zelko
Can Soil Save the World? Climate, Health, and Big Ag with Rebecca Tickell (Filmmaker, Kiss the Ground)
Episode 7
Monday, July 28, 2025 • Duration 01:46:12
Rebecca Tickell is an award-winning filmmaker, author, environmental activist, and regenerative farmer. We talked about the journey that led to her films Kiss the Ground and Common Ground, the history of our soil and pesticides, why conventional farming is a cycle of degredation, the corruption of the agrochemical industry, Monsanto whistleblowers, how to feed the world, the global movement of regeneration, how to eat, bees & pollinators, and much more.
Cholesterol Truths & Science Lies with Dr. Anthony Jay
Episode 6
Tuesday, July 15, 2025 • Duration 01:19:40
Dr. Anthony Jay earned his Ph.D. in Biochemistry from Boston University School of Medicine, researching fats, hormones, and cholesterol. In this episode, we untangle some of the most common myths about cholesterol and heart disease, and talk about why blue zones are bullsh*t, saturated fat studies, problems with epidemiology in nutrition research, one thing everyone should know about the covid vaccine, why you should eat like your ancestors, and much more.
Jake Muise (CEO & Founder of Maui Nui Venison) — Sustainable Food for Peak Performance
Episode 5
Tuesday, July 1, 2025 • Duration 01:14:24
What if you could eat the healthiest meat on the planet while helping the environment? Jake Muise is the CEO and founder of Maui Nui Venison, and joins me to talk about sustainable food and the future of nutrient density. We talked about the overpopulation of Axis deer in Hawaii, the cyclical die-off they experience without predation, solving complex problems, the secret to sustaining high-level output, harvesting at night, nutrition of place, sharing with community, and much more.
Maui Nui Venison (The Healthiest Red Meat on the Planet)
Eric Edmeades — Unlocking Resilience Through Ancestral Living
Episode 4
Monday, June 16, 2025 • Duration 02:22:23
Eric Edmeades is often referred to as the “Indiana Jones” of the professional speaking world. He has been traveling to Africa to visit the Hadza, one of the last remaining hunter-gatherer groups, since 2007. We talked about rites of passage, how ancestral living solved his health issues, lessons from his time with the Hadza, how to overcome evolutionary mismatch in Western society, founding WILDFIT, and much more. You can learn more about Eric at eric.ee
Maui Nui Venison (The Healthiest Red Meat on the Planet)
Dr. Cate Shanahan — Vegetable Oils: History, Science, & How They Destroy Our Health
Episode 3
Monday, June 2, 2025 • Duration 01:39:30
Dr. Cate Shanahan, MD, has been studying vegetable oils since 2002. We talked about her background in biochemistry and what plastics have to do with seed oils, Henry Ford’s role in the history of seed oils, fatty acid chemistry and oxidation, how to avoid parkinsons and improve your mental health, her thoughts on sugar, fruit, and juice, the Hateful Eight, what Dr. Cate eats in a day, her new book Dark Calories, and more.
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Justin Nault — The Pitfalls of Nutrition Research, the Intersection of Health & Performance, & the Journey of Self-Love
Episode 2
Wednesday, May 21, 2025 • Duration 03:11:00
Justin Nault is a nutritional therapist who has helped thousands of clients escape our broken healthcare system and reclaim their health. We talked about his previous life as a professional musician and his own health journey, as well as the origins of allopathic medicine, seed oils and the hydroelectric dam analogy, what’s wrong with rodent studies and nutrition research, how to eat for optimal energy, leanness and performance, longevity in sports, setting 90 years of goals, the politicization of health, finding self-love, and much more. You can learn more about Justin at justinnault.com/steven
Maui Nui Venison (The Healthiest Red Meat on the Planet)
Robb Wolf on COVID, RFK Jr., and Smarter Training: Vitamin D, Zone 2 Cardio, and Beyond
Episode 8
Monday, August 25, 2025 • Duration 01:44:20
Robb Wolf is a 2x NYT Best-Selling Author (The Paleo Solution, Wired to Eat) and a leading voice in health, fitness, and nutrition. We talked about his experiences navigating the COVID-19 pandemic, RFK Jr., and vaccine safety testing. We also cover the benefits of Vitamin D and Zone 2 cardio, how to optimize your strength training, Robb’s recent health struggles, and why you should never give up on your health. You can learn more about Robb at robbwolf.com
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