Somebody You Love – Details, episodes & analysis

Based on a true story, Madam is a 2024 show made in New Zealand. Following her husband's affair, Mack decides to open her own ETHICAL BROTHEL. Holly & Jenna have thoughts about this. Quite a lot of thoughts. 

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In this episode, Jenna shares some of her worst experiences dealing with mainstream media, and we chat about discretion in our Question of the Week and Shit People Say. If you stick around until the end, you’ll be soothed by crooning tunes by our fearless hosts.

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CW: Stalking, harassment, sexual assault, animal death. We use the term “grandfathered” in this episode. We understand this term has very racist origins, and we apologise for the mistake. A better term would have been “legacy rates”

While we are not more likely to be victims of violence because we sell sex, we are more likely to be victims of violence because people think the fact that we sell sex makes us less than human. Which is the whole reason this podcast exists. Today Holly & Jenna are each sharing one of the more harrowing experiences they have had in this industry. 

For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations:
Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/
ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/
NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/
NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt
Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/
SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html
Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/
Vic (Vixen): https://vixen.org.au/
WA (SWEAR): http://sexworkerrightswa.org
WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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Holly finally convinced Jenna to watch Pretty Woman and here we are!

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For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/
ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/
NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/
NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt
Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/
SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html
Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/
Vic (Vixen): https://vixen.org.au/
WA (SWEAR): http://sexworkerrightswa.org
WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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Note: we had some technical issues when recording this episode, so unfortunately the audio isn’t at the level we usually like to deliver! 

Buy SLUTDOM: ​​https://www.uqp.com.au/books/slutdom-reclaiming-shame-free-sexuality

Dr Hilary Caldwell has been a sex worker for over 20 years and decided to come out of hiding to publish her first book. She is an academic with a Masters in Health Science and Applied Science. Her doctorate, ‘Women Who Buy Sex in Australia’ was the first study in the world to explore women buying sexual services and was informed by her sex work and professional career in the field of sexology. She is kinky and queer, a mother and grandmother. Dr Caldwell has recently released her first book, Slutdom, which argues convincingly and passionately for women’s enjoyment of sex as a force to advance gender equality. Delving into topics such as pleasure, pain, empowerment, and including real women’s stories and saucy tips, we are welcoming Dr Caldwell on the show to discuss her research, the Slutdom movement and her experiences as an academic and secret sex worker.

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For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/
ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/
NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/
NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt
Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/
SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html
Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/
Vic (Vixen): https://vixen.org.au/
WA (SWEAR): http://sexworkerrightswa.org
WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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How do I ask how recently they were tested for STIs? How do I ask for us to do something different this time? What if I get down there and it smells really bad? Holly & Jenna give you tips on how to tackle tricky topics and sticky subjects. They also answer the listener question “Is there room for older ladies to succeed in SW?”

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For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/
ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/
NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/
NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt
Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/
SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html
Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/
Vic (Vixen): https://vixen.org.au/
WA (SWEAR): http://sexworkerrightswa.org
WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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In part three of this series (make sure you’ve listened to parts 1 & 2 if you’re new or thinking about joining the industry!), we’re talking about the actual booking - how do you keep time, how to set up for and run a booking, how to do health checks, tips for building assertiveness, and what mental self care is necessary in this job. 

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For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/vc

WA (SWEAR): http://sexworkerrightswa.org 

WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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In part two of this series, we are moving more into the logistics of the job itself. Holly and Jenna talk about advertising & advertising platforms, dealing with time wasters, screening, getting deposits, and supplying invoices. 

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Somebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empowering sex workers through 

technology: https://assemblyfour.com/

For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/vc

WA (SWEAR): http://sexworkerrightswa.org 

WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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Michael (he/him), and Louise (she/her) both lost their “virginity” to sex workers and they’ve both agreed to share their stories on the show! *Virginity is a social construct, but we talk about that more in the episode. 

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For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/
ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/
NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/
NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt
Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/
SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html
Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/
Vic (Vixen): https://vixen.org.au/
WA (SWEAR): http://sexworkerrightswa.org
WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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Yep, this week we are mining reddit for content. We read out the SW-related stories of contributors to /r/AITA and decide if we think:

• NTA (not the arsehole)
• YTA (you are the arsehole)
• NAH (no arseholes here)
• ESH (everyone sucks here) 

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For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/
ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/
NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/
NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt
Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/
SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html
Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/
Vic (Vixen): https://vixen.org.au/
WA (SWEAR): http://sexworkerrightswa.org
WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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