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In this episode, we talk with Christine Mosher and Ros Wilson, clinical social workers and co-founders of Athlete Wellness Consultants, where they provide training, education, and clinical support focused on athlete well-being. Both bring a wealth of experience to the world of sports social work, not just in mental health, but as lifelong athletes themselves.

In our conversation, they break down what sport social work actually looks like in practice, how it compares to sports psychology, and why this work is needed at all levels of sport. Whether you're a social worker curious about this field or someone already working with athletes, this episode offers insight into what sport social work really looks like and why it matters.

Takeaways From This Episode:

• Sports social work focuses on the whole athlete, not just how they perform
• Retirement, injury, and performance pressure can trigger deep grief and disconnection
• Social workers can collaborate with coaches, trainers, and psychologists to provide stronger support
• Educating athletic staff is important to reducing stigma and improving mental health access
• Boundaries and confidentiality get complicated in tight-knit team environments
• There’s growing space for macro-level advocacy within sports systems

Mentioned resources:

• Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.

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We’re excited to share this joint episode with Catherine Moore, LCSW, host of Social Workers Rise Podcast, to get into what compensation actually looks like in this profession. Between her experience in medical social work and Taylor’s salary database with over 1,500 entries, we looked at how social workers are getting paid and why we need more transparency around it.

Takeaways From This Episode:

• Why salary transparency helps shift the culture of financial struggle in social work
• What the real salary landscape looks like across roles and regions (yes, some social workers are making $300K)
• How to think about total compensation, not just your hourly rate
• How to identify job titles outside the “social worker” label
• Tips for negotiating your salary

Mentioned resources:

• Salary Database – Submit or browse entries
• Job Title Resource Community (aka Wealth Society)
• Job Title Resource PDF
• Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.

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• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
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In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Ashley Stephens, LCSW-S, a social worker, supervisor, and consultant who shares how she built a career that’s financially stable and aligned with how she actually wants to live. Ashley walks us through her early money story and how she started creating multiple income streams, from clinical work to supervision, retreats, teaching, and consulting.

If you’re feeling stuck in your current job, curious about supervision, or just trying to figure out how to make social work sustainable, this episode is for you!

Takeaways From This Episode:

• The harmful (and persistent) belief that wanting financial stability makes you less “dedicated” as a social worker
• Why diversifying your income isn’t about hustle culture... it’s about safety, creativity, and sustainability
• The powerful ripple effect of becoming a supervisor and pouring into the next generation of clinicians
• What autonomy really means in your work and how it can lead to more joy, purpose, and freedom
• How the Social Work Compact could expand your clinical reach without starting from scratch in every state
• Permission to leave a job that doesn’t serve you, just because it doesn’t serve you 👀

Mentioned resources:

• Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.

Connect with us!

• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

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In this episode, I’m joined by Amber Joiner-Hill, MSSW, a social worker and consultant who shares her story of how she transitioned from a traditional role in social work to starting her own consulting business. We get into the nitty gritty of program evaluation, setting up an LLC, pricing your services, and navigating the rollercoaster that is entrepreneurship.

If you’ve ever thought about starting your own consulting business or just want a peek behind the scenes of how one social worker made it happen, this episode is for you.

Takeaways From This Episode:

1. What sparked Amber’s love for program evaluation and systems-level change
2. How she transitioned from full-time work into full-time consulting (and back again)
3. Why her first paid training was $1,300, but her next contract was $15K 👀
4. The mindset shift from hourly to flat-rate pricing (and how it saved her time and made her more money)
5. How building relationships early in her career opened doors years later
6. Why your consulting journey doesn’t need to be perfect, it just needs to start

Mentioned resources:

1. Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.
2. Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.

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How do you actually write a bill and get lawmakers to take it seriously? In this episode, we’re talking with Dan and Monique from Payment for Placements in New York, two social workers who helped draft and introduce a pilot bill to pay MSW interns in New York State. They walk us through the entire process, from gathering a team to drafting the bill language, finding the right sponsors, and pitching their vision to legislators who can actually move it forward.

Takeaways From This Episode:

1. Why unpaid internships are a structural equity issue and how this bill addresses it
2. What made their pitch resonate with legislators
3. Details of the bill’s structure, funding timeline, and why they focused on MSW students
4. Rolling out the bill: sponsors, co-sponsors, off-session activity, and continued advocacy
5. The balance between idealism and feasibility when writing legislation
6. Tips for social workers who want to get into advocacy or policy

Mentioned resources:

1. Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.
2. Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.

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If you've been curious about consulting but unsure where to start, this episode is packed with gems! I’m joined by Christina Broderick-Royes, LSW, founder of Intention Elevation, to talk about what consulting actually is, how social workers can step into it, and why your experience is already more than enough. We get real about pricing, packaging your services, tapping into your network for leads, and navigating that awkward “how much do I charge?” phase. Christina doesn’t just talk theory, she gives actual numbers and examples of projects she’s done, so you can see exactly how this work can play out.

Takeaways From This Episode:

1. What “consulting” actually means and how social workers are already doing it
2. Why starting small (and messy) is better than waiting to be “ready”
3. Real-life contract examples Christina’s landed (and what they paid 👀)
4. How to find leads through your existing network and conferences
5. Why undercharging keeps us stuck and how to start pricing with confidence
6. How to use your phone contacts and old job connections to land opportunities

Mentioned resources:

1. Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.
2. Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
3. Find Social Work to Wealth on: Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, and Pinterest.

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In this episode, we’re diving into salary data from over 700 social workers who filled out our anonymous income survey. We talk about who’s hitting six figures, where they live, what jobs they have, and how long they’ve been in the field. But it’s not only about the numbers... we also get into the very real barriers social workers face when it comes to increasing income: expensive licensing processes, low starting pay, and a serious lack of salary transparency in MSW programs.

Takeaways From This Episode:

1. Yes, some social workers make over $100K — but they’re still the minority (~14%)
2. Most six-figure earners are licensed, have 10+ years of experience, and/or work in hospitals or federal roles
3. Half of the salaries reported fell between $30K–$60K... which is unacceptable, especially for folks with master’s degrees
4. State and cost of living play a big role in how much social workers are paid
5. MSW programs need to start talking about money, not just “self-care”

Mentioned resources:

1. Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.
2. Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.

Find Social Work to Wealth on: Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, and Pinterest.

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Budgeting isn’t one-size-fits-all, and we’ve had our fair share of budgeting "fails". In this episode, we’re walking through how we budget now, what systems we tried (and ditched), and what finally made a difference in helping us feel more in control of our money. We talk about fun money accounts, money dates with our partners, and the power of automation. We also chat about how our values and mindsets shaped our approach to money and how we still make space for joy even while tackling debt. If budgeting has ever felt overwhelming or unrealistic, this convo is for you!

Takeaways From This Episode:

1. The exact budgeting systems we’re using (including how many bank accounts we really have 👀)
2. Why “fun money” helps us spend without guilt or asking for permission
3. How we track spending (or don’t) and what’s actually sustainable for us
4. How we use automation to make budgeting easier and what we still check manually
5. How we align our money with our values (and make room for joy on the journey)

Mentioned resources:

1. Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.
2. Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.

Find Social Work to Wealth on: Instagram, Youtube, Facebook, and Pinterest.

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This week, we’re diving into a budgeting convo with Maureen Paley, MSW, AFC®, a financial coach and fellow social worker who brings both financial savviness and deep empathy. With a background in investment management and social work, Maureen gets the unique money struggles of our field and is here to help us reframe how we think about budgeting. We talk about the emotional side of money, why shame is so tied to our financial habits, and tips on how to manage your budget once you've created one.

Takeaways From This Episode:

1. Why budgeting feels restrictive and how to shift that mindset
2. Why budgeting is not one-size-fits-all (and that’s okay!)
3. The power of money dates and checking in with yourself regularly
4. The importance of joy and sustainability in your financial plan
5. Why you don’t need to choose between paying off debt or saving

Mentioned resources:

1. Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.

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In this conversation, we’re joined by Eva Forde, MSSW, founder of Rich Social Worker and the Social Work Wealth Conference, to talk about what it really looks like when social workers claim their worth—financially, personally, and professionally. Eva shares her raw story of financial struggle, survival, and eventually building a business that empowers other social workers to rethink their relationship with money. If you’ve ever questioned whether it's "okay" to want more—more time, more money, more freedom—this episode is for you!

In this episode, you'll learn:

1. How Eva’s experience living in Jamaica changed her views on money forever
2. Why social workers must talk about wealth to create real, lasting impact
3. Breaking free from the old narratives about poverty and service
4. How building wealth can strengthen our communities
5. The heart behind the Social Work Wealth Conference and new community launch
6. Permission to dream way bigger than you thought possible

Mentioned resources:

1. Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.

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Doing international social work sounds amazing in theory, but how do you actually do it? In this episode, we’re getting into the details. Faith talks through her experience moving to Switzerland and building a social work career internationally. She shares what worked, what didn’t, and the things she wishes someone had told her before making the move. Plus, we share resources if you’re seriously considering working abroad: job boards, degree programs, and organizations that can help you figure it out.

In this episode, you'll learn:

1. How Faith transitioned to becoming an expat social worker in Switzerland
2. How to navigate visas and work permits as a social worker abroad
3. The importance of networking to break into international social work
4. The challenges and rewards of building a career in a new country
5. Tips for exploring international social work opportunities, including job boards, educational programs, and internships

Mentioned resources:

1. Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.

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How do we get social work interns paid? In this episode, we chatted with Jess Riley, BSW, and Jacqueline Guan from Payment for Placements (P4P), a grassroots movement fighting to make paid internships the norm for social work students. Jess and Jacqueline share their organizing journeys, the realities of advocating for paid placements, and the larger impact this issue has on equity and access in our profession. We dig into how they've built momentum on their campuses, what strategies have worked to shift institutional mindsets, and how social workers everywhere can support this cause.

Takeaways from this episode

1. How field funds and legislation are being used as creative solutions to support interns
2. The challenges of building relationships with underfunded agencies and shifting long-standing norms
3. Why collaboration with faculty, admin, and NASW is key to creating systemic change
4. How chapters can build momentum through petitions, protests, and policy work
5. How a culture of underpayment starts with unpaid internships and how we push back

Mentioned resources & transcript

1. Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.
2. Join the Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.

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In this episode, we break down one of the biggest decisions for social workers considering private practice: should you take insurance, go fully private pay, or try a hybrid model? We talk through the logistics, mindset shifts, pros and cons, and the financial implications of each route.

Takeaways From This Episode:

• Starting with insurance might make sense for stability, but private pay gives you more freedom in the long run
• The real reason niching down matters
• How insurance audits, clawbacks, and low rates push therapists out of the system
• Being an anti-oppressive therapist isn’t only about taking insurance; there are many ways to practice social justice
• It’s okay to raise your private pay rate and be mindful of inflation
• If you’re starting out, there’s no shame in going into private practice early in your career

Mentioned resources:

• Private Practice Checklist Download
• Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.

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• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
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In this episode, we were joined by Pilar Bonilla and Aiden Bondurant from Payment for Placements (P4P), an organization fighting for social work students to be compensated for their labor. We dive into the challenges of changing perceptions around student labor, the biggest roadblocks to securing funding, and the legislative efforts currently in motion to make paid placements a reality. We also chat about the larger implications of financial wellness in the social work profession and how collective advocacy can push the field forward. If you're a social worker or ally who believes in fair pay for our future social service practitioners, this is a must-listen!

Takeaways from this episode

1. The ethical issues surrounding unpaid social work internships
2. How unpaid placements negatively impact social workers' long-term financial stability
3. The biggest challenges in pushing for paid internships
4. Advocacy for paid placements is crucial for the sustainability of the social work profession
5. Advocacy requires patience, grace, and a willingness to engage in difficult conversations

Mentioned resources & transcript

1. Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.

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In this episode, we're joined by Dr. Marina Badillo-Diaz, aka The AI Social Worker, a school social worker turned AI enthusiast and consultant. Dr. Badillo-Diaz is breaking down the intersection of AI and social work, discussing the implications, practical applications, and everything in between! Dr. Badillo-Diaz also shares her insights and experience about building her consulting business and growing comfortable charging for her expertise. If you’ve ever been curious about AI, consulting, or just want some solid career inspiration, this episode is for you.

Takeaways from this episode

1. How Marina got into AI and why she’s on a mission to bring it to social work
2. The biggest ethical concerns of AI in social work & how to navigate them
3. AI tools that can help with case notes, referrals, and time management
4. Why AI isn’t replacing social workers—but how it can help us
5. Tips for social workers interested in launching their own consulting business

Mentioned resources & transcript

1. Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.
2. Join the Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
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We're excited to welcome Nicki Sanders, MSW, a career coach and leadership development expert helping professionals break free from the outdated belief that passion and financial security can’t coexist. We dive into the indoctrination that keeps social workers stuck in low-paying roles, unpack the toxic messaging that keeps social workers struggling financially, and explore how we can shift the profession toward financial empowerment and sustainability.

In this episode, you'll learn:

1. Why the belief that “social workers aren’t in it for the money” is outdated and harmful
2. How to leverage your social work skills for higher-income opportunities
3. Permission to walk away from a job that is no longer serving you
4. Why self-advocacy, not just self-care, is key to thriving
5. Why financial stability is essential for being an effective social worker
6. The truth about social work’s “vow of poverty” myth—and how to unlearn it

Mentioned resources:

1. Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.

Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.

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We are back again finishing our conversation with Sam where she shares her journey of taking control of her finances while navigating the challenges of student loans, credit card debt, and building savings. Sam gets real about the highs and lows of her financial journey- from her struggles with shame and overspending to her incredible progress paying off debt and boosting her savings.

In this episode, you'll learn:

1. How Sam tackled $10,000 in credit card debt and started building savings
2. The power of printing and categorizing your bank statements to identify spending habits
3. Strategies for negotiating salary increases and reallocating income to pay off debt
4. How balance transfer cards can help you manage high-interest credit card debt
5. Why vulnerability and honesty about money are key to creating a financial plan that works

Mentioned resources:

1. Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.
2. Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.

Find Social Work to Wealth on: Instagram, Youtube, Facebook, and Pinterest.

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We are excited to welcome our very first guest, Sam, a licensed clinical social worker with an inspiring and relatable journey. Sam shares her path into the social work profession, opening up about the challenges she’s faced, from managing student debt to navigating salary growth and overcoming financial barriers along the way.

In this episode, you'll learn:

1. The impact of financial literacy on student loan decisions
2. Sam’s career progression, from earning $17/hour in her first job to doubling her salary
3. The challenges of navigating private student loans and negotiating raises
4. How Sam found a niche within social work that brought her fulfillment and joy
5. Why financial wellness and salary transparency are critical for social workers

Mentioned resources:

1. Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.
2. Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.

Find Social Work to Wealth on: Instagram, Youtube, Facebook, and Pinterest.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms are for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

In this episode, we dive into our personal journeys with debt, salary progression, and the often-taboo topic of money within the social work profession. We share our experiences with student loans, financial strategies, and the importance of financial transparency. We also discuss the challenges social workers face regarding income and the societal messages that influence their perceptions of worth and financial success.

Takeaways from this episode:

• The podcast's goal is to empower social workers professionally and financially
• We are aiming to reduce the stigma around discussing money in social work
• The podcast will feature practical and transparent financial and professional conversations
• Learning about how we got to where we are as social workers!

Mentioned resources:

• Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.

Connect with us!

• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

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This is our first episode of the Social Work to Wealth podcast! As your hosts (Taylor and Faith), we felt it was important to introduce ourselves and share our journeys into the field of social work. We also discuss the challenges and rewards of our careers, the motivation behind starting the podcast, and our vision for empowering social workers to achieve financial literacy and wealth. Thanks for joining us!

Takeaways from this episode:

• The podcast's goal is to empower social workers professionally and financially
• We are aiming to reduce the stigma around discussing money in social work
• The podcast will feature practical and transparent financial and professional conversations
• Learning about how we got to where we are as social workers!

Mentioned resources:

• Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.

Connect with us!

• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

Today’s episode is all about the corporate side of social work! We sat down with Peter Mostachetti, LMSW, who went from a 25-year career in tech at IBM to leading employee experience, learning, and inclusion at IPSY, the largest beauty subscription company.

Peter breaks down what corporate social work really is, how he applies the “person-in-environment” approach in HR, and why social workers are already equipped to thrive in corporate spaces. This episode is full of insight, especially if you’re curious about nontraditional roles, better pay, or just figuring out your next move.

Takeaways From This Episode:

• Corporate social work is just macro social work in a new setting
• Social work skills like crisis response, facilitation, and systems thinking show up all the time in HR, DEI, and employee experience.
• Your MSW makes you qualified to work in spaces like HR, employee experience, and DEI.
• You don’t have to give up your values to work in a space that pays you well.
• Job titles can be misleading, so read the job description before counting yourself out.
• Entry-level HR roles can pay $80K+ depending on industry and location.

Mentioned resources:

• Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.

Connect with us!

• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
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In this episode, we are doing something a little different! Faith and I are reacting to the conversation that transpired on LinkedIn after I posted: “Don’t post your job for a master’s level clinician if it doesn’t pay at least $100K.” The post got a lot of traction.... essentially went viral. Thousands of reactions, hundreds of comments, and a mix of support and pushback from folks across the field.

We talk through the range of responses, including the common claim that expecting six figures is “unrealistic,” and why that word keeps coming up in conversations about social work and money. We also talk real solutions: collective bargaining, salary transparency, and policy-level shifts that need to happen if this profession is going to survive and thrive.

Takeaways From This Episode:

• The behind the scenes story of a LinkedIn post that struck a nerve
• What it really means when people say $100K is “unrealistic” for social workers
• The importance of salary transparency and why it’s not “greedy” to talk numbers
• What the data tells us about shortages, turnover, and retention in social work
• Why “that’s how it’s always been” is not a good enough reason to settle
• Ideas for what a new, sustainable model of social work could look like

Mentioned resources:

• Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.

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• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

Welcome to the Salary Series! This is a mini-series where we’re getting into the real numbers behind what social workers make. In this episode, I’m talking with Erika Morris, MSW, a forensic social worker who went from making $44/hr straight out of grad school to making up to $95/hr as a contractor in Washington state. Erika breaks down what forensic social work actually is and how working on public defense teams can be both meaningful and financially sustainable. If you’ve ever wondered about what it’s like to work on a defense team or how to position yourself for work in legal and court-adjacent spaces, this is your episode.

Takeaways From This Episode:

• What forensic social work really looks like in practice
• How Erika went from intern to earning $55/hr in one year
• How contract work offers flexibility and strong pay, especially for working parents
• The differences in public defense systems between states
• Why holistic defense is growing and how social workers fit into this model
• How to approach public defense agencies even if you don’t see job openings
• Common job titles to look for in forensic and legal-focused social work

Mentioned resources:

• Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.

Connect with us!

• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

This week, we are excited to welcome Jerrel Peterson, MSW, to the podcast! He’s the Head of Global Content Policy at Spotify, and formerly held a trust & safety role at Twitter. Jerrel walks us through his journey from direct practice in mental health to landing a job in tech. We dive into what “trust and safety” means in tech, how his team develops interventions for content-related harm, and how his social work training helps him create safer online spaces. Jerrel also shares practical advice on how social workers can break into the tech space and translate their skills.

👀 If you want more tech SW info, check out this pre-recorded panel!

Takeaways From This Episode:

• Why trust & safety work is a perfect fit for social workers
• Why social work skills (crisis management, systems thinking, advocacy) are in demand in tech
• The power of policy as intervention in online platforms
• Negotiation tips: base salary, RSUs, sign-on bonuses, and benefits
• Advice for social workers exploring tech careers: networking, LinkedIn outreach, and resume rewrites
• Why being bold matters in corporate spaces

Mentioned resources:

• Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.

Connect with us!

• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

In this episode, we’re joined by Aja Evans, financial therapist and licensed mental health counselor, to talk all things feelings and finances. We get into what financial therapy actually is, why our money habits are deeply emotional, and how unprocessed shame and avoidance are holding so many of us (especially those of us in helping professions) back from financial clarity and peace. Aja gives us so much permission to pause, reflect, and rewrite our money story without shame.

Takeaways From This Episode:

• Why financial therapy is more than just numbers... It’s about emotions, patterns, and past experiences
• The emotional toll of money avoidance (and how to gently start facing it)
• Why so many of us feel left out of the financial conversation and how to reclaim our place in it
• A peek inside what financial therapy can actually look like
• The power of financial confidence and how it can change your entire life
• A reminder: your financial journey takes time. You are not behind.

Mentioned resources:

• Buy Feel Good Finance Here
• Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.

Connect with us!

• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

In this episode, I’m talking with Lauryn Williams, CFP®, and consultant with Student Loan Planner, about what’s really going on with student loans right now, especially for social workers trying to make sense of repayment, forgiveness, and all the recent changes. We break down the current repayment options, what’s happening with the SAVE plan, and how the new RAP plan is expected to work (when it finally rolls out).

If your loans feel overwhelming or you’ve been avoiding them altogether, this episode will help you understand your options and what next steps to take.

Get $100 off a consult with Student Loan Planner*

Takeaways From This Episode:

• Why repayment isn’t one-size-fits-all and how to choose what works for you
• What’s happening with the SAVE plan and why it might be time to move off it
• Which income-driven repayment plans are still available (and who qualifies)
• What the new RAP plan is, and what we know about it so far
• How PSLF actually works and common myths that confuse borrowers
• What to consider before refinancing your federal loans
• How a consult with Student Loan Planner works and why it could save you thousands

Mentioned resources:

• Get $100 off a consult with Student Loan Planner*
• Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript. (This post has extra resources that were not shared in the episode, thanks to Leslie!)

Connect with us!

• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

*This episode may contain affiliate links, meaning if you decide to make a purchase via my links, I may earn a commission at no additional cost to you. See my disclosure for more info.

In this episode, I’m talking with Leslie Taylor, MSW, about what it looks like to leave traditional social work and build a career in tech, and specifically in the growing field of Trust & Safety. Leslie shares her career journey from intensive in-home therapy to working at organizations like Snap and Adobe.

We get into what Trust & Safety actually means, how social workers are already equipped for this work, and why more of us should be exploring this path (especially if we’re feeling stuck, underpaid, or burned out). This conversation is full of insight for anyone considering a nontraditional path with their MSW.

👀 If you want more tech SW info, check out this pre-recorded panel!

Takeaways From This Episode:

• What Trust & Safety work involves and how it connects to core social work skills
• The kinds of companies hiring for these roles and what they’re actually looking for
• Common job titles to search for if you’re exploring a career pivot
• Practical advice on how to reposition your experience and update your resume for tech roles
• How Leslie approached negotiating her salary

Mentioned resources:

• Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript. (This post has extra resources that were not shared in the episode, thanks to Leslie!)

Connect with us!

• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

CE Info: This episode is approved for 1 CE credit through the Association of Social Work Boards (ASWB) ACE Program (#2807). To receive CE credit, you must pay, register, and complete the required post-test and evaluation. Listening alone does not guarantee credit. It is your responsibility to verify that this course meets your licensing board's requirements. Click here to purchase the course!

We're very excited to welcome Dr. Frederic Reamer, a longtime social work educator and chair of the task force that wrote the NASW Code of Ethics (!!!). Dr. Reamer has spent decades focusing on ethics and risk management in social work, and he talked with us about artificial intelligence and its impact in the behavioral health space.

We talk about the real-world ways AI is already showing up in clinical settings, how it’s being used by clients (often without us knowing), and the ethical risks clinicians need to watch out for. Dr. Reamer shares his perspective on how mental health clinicians can stay grounded and legally protected while navigating this evolving technology, especially when most of us didn’t learn anything about this in grad school.

This conversation is essential for every clinician, whether you're using AI or not.

Takeaways From This Episode:

• Why every clinician needs to know about AI, even if you're not using it yourself
• How to update your consent-to-treat protocols to address AI use with clients
• The real risks of AI-generated clinical notes, including false narratives and hallucinations
• Why some states have already banned AI for therapeutic purposes (Illinois and Nevada)
• The importance of vetting AI tools before using them and consulting an attorney who specializes in this area
• How AI can be a useful supplement, not a replacement, for clinical judgment
• Why failing to ask clients about their AI use could be considered negligence

Resources:

• Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.
• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

CE Info: This episode is approved for 1 CE credit through the Association of Social Work Boards (ASWB) ACE Program (#2807). To receive CE credit, you must pay, register, and complete the required post-test and evaluation. Listening alone does not guarantee credit. It is your responsibility to verify that this course meets your licensing board's requirements. Click here to purchase the course!

In this episode, we talked with Shajuan "Shay" Alexander, LCSW, to walk us through what it actually looks like to do immigration evaluations. These evaluations are used in legal cases like asylum, VAWA, hardship waivers, and more. Shay shares how she got started, what she’s learned along the way, and what social workers need to know before adding this to their practice.

If you’ve ever been curious about immigration evaluations or want to understand how social work shows up in legal settings, this conversation is a practical place to start!

Takeaways From This Episode:

• What immigration evaluations are and why they’re needed in court
• The five types of evaluations social workers can do (and the licensing requirements)
• How to approach interviews about trauma, violence, and political persecution with care
• What goes into writing an evaluation
• Why your relationships with attorneys matter just as much as your clinical skills
• What to consider if you’re interested in this work but unsure where to start

Resources:

• Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.
• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

Taylor chatted with Tireeka Watson, LCSW, who has built a thriving forensic evaluation practice serving clients in the criminal justice system. Her background spans jail-based mental health, public defense, crisis response with fire departments, and leadership roles in psychiatric hospitals.

We get into how evaluations work, what they pay, how to get trained, and how to position yourself in this field if you're interested. If you're looking for something outside traditional therapy or case management, or you're just curious about what else is possible in social work, this episode has a lot to offer.

Resources mentioned:

• Follow Tireeka on TikTok and Instagram
• Forensic Evaluations 101 Workshop
• The Hype Playlist
• For more forensic sw content, check out our episode: 22. Salary Series: Forensic Social Worker Making $45-$95/hr

Connect with us!

• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

In this episode, we talk with Michelle Bruxer, the founder of MSW Helper, a platform that helps aspiring social workers navigate writing their personal statements for their grad school applications. She shares what makes a personal statement strong, how admissions committees actually evaluate applications, and how to convey your experience that you may feel is not relevant. Whether you're applying now or thinking about it down the line, Michelle breaks things down in a way that’s practical and encouraging.

Takeaways From This Episode:

• The two things admissions committees really want to see in your personal statement
• How to show critical thinking without writing like a robot
• What not to do (like regurgitating your resume or oversharing trauma)
• Why your "non-social work" job may still count as valuable experience
• How to talk about a low GPA (and whether you even need to)
• Why getting rejected doesn’t mean you’re not meant to be a social worker

Work with Michelle:

• Get help with your MSW personal statement at MSW Helper (Get $10 off using code SW2WEALTH)
• Free webinar on writing personal statements

Resources:

• Check out the affiliated blog post for the full list of resources mentioned in this episode and the unedited transcript.
• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

In this episode, we talked with Nakia Watson, LCSW, to share all about travel social work. Nakia shares her journey from foster care to medical social work and eventually into traveling, where she’s worked in hospital systems across the country.

We talk about the realities of the work, the experience she recommends to get started, and dig into the pay structure. Nakia also shares how travel social work helped her pay off a large portion of her student loans and why it might be a strong option for social workers who want more income, variety, or autonomy in their careers. If you’ve ever been curious about traveling, this conversation gives you a clear picture of what to expect and how to get started.

Resources mentioned:

• Follow Nakia on TikTok and check out her other Travel Social Work Resources
• Nakia’s Job Board + Community Chat
• 15 Popular Travel Social Work Agencies & How to Get Started

Connect with us!

• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

Social workers who work in organ transplantation can work in a variety of settings and this episode gives you an idea of what that actually means. I am joined by Sam Butler, LCSW, and Dora Vanderpool, LCSW, to get into the day-to-day of both their past and current roles in transplant social work.

We talk through the different paths you can take, from working in dialysis centers and supporting transplant recipients to walking alongside organ donor families. If medical social work or end-of-life work is of interest to you, this episode is for you!

We chat about:

• Roles of social workers in transplant and organ procurement organizations
• The emotional and logistical challenges that come with this work
• The organ donation process from donor families to recipients
• Salaries, the importance of financial stability for social workers, and money confidence encouragement

Resources mentioned:

• Submit your podcast episode idea!

Connect with us!

• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

Welcome to our second Salary Series episode, where we bring social workers on to specifically give us all the tea about their income progression. Liz Rhea, MSW, LCSW, joined us for this episode to share about her journey to becoming a private practice owner and from earning ~$25/hr to $244k in total revenue in 2025.

Liz shares the details of the income streams that made up her income in 2025 and gives insight into how she approaches talking about money with her therapy clients. We chat about licensing, making care accessible, and why salary transparency is important in the social work field. Liz is such a cool human! Even if you aren't a therapist, you'll definitely leave inspired after this conversation.

Resources mentioned:

1. Follow Liz on TikTok, Instagram, and check out her website
2. 1,500+ Social Work Salary List
3. Professionalism as a Racial Construct

Connect with us!

1. Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
2. Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

We are now officially offering continuing education credits through the podcast! We have been approved to offer CEs by the Association of Social Work Boards (ASWB). We have been working toward this for a long time and are so excited to finally share it with you.

In this episode, we chat about everything you need to know about how it works, who’s eligible, and what episodes are available today!

Not every episode will be CE eligible, so keep an eye out for the [CE] bracket in the title.

How it works:

• Listen to the podcast episode (always free, wherever you get your podcasts)
• Purchase the CE course on our learning platform
• Complete a short post-test and evaluation
• Download your certificate immediately

Resources mentioned:

• Social Work to Wealth CE Updates — CE only updates
• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — Get updates on money resources, events, salaries, and more straight to your inbox
• Submit your podcast episode idea!
• Book a 1:1 with Taylor!

Connect with us!

• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

We had fun recording this one! Catching eachother up (and you) on life, career updates, and everything going on with Social Work to Wealth!

We talk about what's been happening in Taylor's transition out of medical social work and into financial planning, including the job search, rejections, and an exciting new role in finance! Faith shares her feelings after being in private practice for two years and the ideas she's been thinking about to expand her income and impact.

We also get into what's been growing with Social Work to Wealth. From Apple Podcast rankings to CE offerings (launching May 11th!). It's been an exciting past few months for us at Social Work to Wealth! Thanks for supporting us on this journey 🤗

We chat about:

• Taylor's journey to transition into financial planning
• Faith's private practice update & ways she has been brainstorming how to expand her income
• What's been growing with Social Work to Wealth: download milestones, rankings, and panels
• The CE application Social Work to Wealth submitted to NBCC and ASWB (!!!)
• End with a money moment!

Resources mentioned:

• Social Work to Wealth CE Updates — CE only updates
• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — Get updates on money resources, events, salaries, and more straight to your inbox
• Job Search Resource Community — Monthly office hours, resume help, and job title resources
• Job Search Resource PDF — A 36-page PDF with 275+ real job titles used across different industries and niche resources.
• Follow Jakori | LMSW 📚 on TikTok

Connect with us!

• Submit your podcast episode idea!
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

I am doing my first solo episode! (Me, Taylor). This is the first *mini* episode of many that I will be doing to help you learn practical ways to manage your money. This episode (and the next few) will be about debt payoff.

Topics covered in this episode:

• An exciting podcast update!
• Money mindset
• Practical tips on assessing your debt
• Tips on where to get started if you don't know where to start
• Building a healthy relationship with money

Resources mentioned:

• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter
• Continuing Education Updates Only Newsletter
• Debt Inventory Printable
• Keeper Password Manager

Connect with us!

• Submit your podcast episode idea!
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

CE Info: This episode is approved for 1 CE credit through the Association of Social Work Boards (ASWB) ACE Program (#2807). To receive CE credit, you must pay, register, and complete the required post-test and evaluation. Listening alone does not guarantee credit. It is your responsibility to verify that this course meets your licensing board's requirements. Click here to purchase the course!

In this episode, we chat with Shaina Siber, LCSW, who is a therapist, author, and host of the Affirming Minds podcast. This was a very refreshing and honest conversation! We really didn't want this to be another typical conversation that includes telling you to "do more yoga". (Although I know this can be a healthy practice, it can't solve all your problems.) We dive into the real systemic, environmental, and individual factors that impact burnout, including capitalism, inadequate pay, moral injury, people-pleasing, and perfectionism. This conversation is meant for social workers at all levels to notice warning signs, critically analyze the issue, and learn tips for how to manage burnout.

We chat about:

• Key burnout symptoms, including ones that are often missed in high performers
• Why inadequate pay is an underacknowledged driver of burnout
• Individual factors that increase burnout risk: people-pleasing, perfectionism, and high empathy
• The six-step burnout recovery framework from Shaina's book
• The problem with asking job candidates "What do you do for self-care?"
• What employers and leaders can do to create burnout-protective workplaces
• Shaina's advice for anyone currently in the thick of burnout

Resources mentioned:

• Using ACT and CFT for Burnout Recovery: The Beyond Burnout Blueprint
• Affirming Minds CE Podcast

Connect with us!

• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
• Submit your podcast episode idea!
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

LaQueshia Clemons, LCSW and financial therapist, joined the podcast to chat about her journey paying off $25k in debt, her career, and tips for social workers on navigating their careers. LaQueshia runs a group financial therapy practice in Connecticut, one of the only practices of its kind focused entirely on the intersection of emotions and money, and she co-authored Dear Therapist, You Deserve More: A Guide to Financial Freedom, Career Growth, and Personal Fulfillment.

We chat about:

• How LaQueshia went from $25K in credit card debt to running a financial therapy group practice
• The emotional and behavioral patterns around money she had to unlearn
• What financial therapy actually is and who it's for
• Why social workers don't need to have their niche figured out right away
• The limiting beliefs that keep social workers stuck
• What LaQueshia would tell her new grad school self

Resources mentioned:

• Wealthy Social Worker swag
• 270+ Job Titles for Social Workers PDF
• Dear Therapist, You Deserve More: A Guide to Financial Freedom, Career Growth, and Personal Fulfillment

Connect with us!

• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — a newsletter for the social worker wanting to level up their career and money.
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

This is the third and final episode of the practical ways to pay off your debt series! Today we're getting into the actual payoff strategies, avalanche, snowball, and lasso, plus a student loan update that is time-sensitive if you're currently in SAVE forbearance.

If you missed episodes one and two, go back and start there. I covered the debt, inventory, budgeting, emergency funds, and investing while in debt.

Topics covered in this episode:

• Various debt payoff strategies
• Credit card points and when they're actually worth it
• Tracking your debt payoff progress
• Student loan updates

Resources mentioned:

• Debt Reset Guide — A free guide to help you reset your relationship with debt and start fresh
• Student Loan Planner IBR Calculator — Free calculator to estimate your monthly payment
• Student Loan Planner Consult — Work one-on-one with a certified student loan professional, use my link to get $100 off
• Employer Certification Form — studentaid.gov — Submit this at least once a year to verify your qualifying employment for PSLF
• Thermometer Debt Tracker — A visual tracker to help you see and celebrate your debt payoff progress
• Work with Taylor — Book a one-on-one money consult with me!

Connect with us!

• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter
• Continuing Education Updates Only Newsletter
• Submit your podcast episode idea!
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

This is part two of the practical ways to pay off your debt series! If you missed episode 36, go back and listen first, that's where we did the debt inventory and laid the foundation for everything we're building on now.

This episode covers three big topics: budgeting, emergency funds, and investing while in debt.

Topics covered in this episode:

• What a budget actually is
• How to set realistic spending numbers using past statements
• Budgeting methods: 50/30/20, zero-based, pay yourself first, envelope system
• Emergency funds during debt payoff
• Should you invest while in debt?
• Balancing low-interest debt payoff with investing

Resources mentioned:

• Debt Reset Guide — A free guide to help you reset your relationship with debt and start fresh
• Free Budgeting Google Sheet — Simple budgeting spreadsheet to track your income, expenses, and margin
• Monarch Money — A budgeting app that connects all your accounts in one place
• Lunch Money — A simple, flexible budgeting tool great for visual spenders
• Ally High Yield Savings — My go-to high yield savings account (HYSA)
• Work with Taylor — Book a one-on-one money consult with me!

Connect with us!

• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter
• Continuing Education Updates Only Newsletter
• Submit your podcast episode idea!
• Find Social Work to Wealth on: TikTok, Instagram, & YouTube.

Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast & on any affiliated platforms is for educational, informational, & entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Consuming this content does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice pertaining to your particular situation, consult one-on-one with an attorney.

"Making this much money is against the code of ethics." "If you care about money, you should have been a psychologist or counselor, not a social worker.

In this episode, we're addressing comments regarding our episode with Liz Rhea, a therapist in Georgia who made $224,000 in 2025. A few comments suggested that earning that kind of income is antithetical to social work ethics, that wanting financial stability makes you selfish, and that if money matters to you, maybe you shouldn't be a social worker at all.

We have thoughts. 😅

We chat about:

• The comments that sparked this conversation
• What the NASW Code of Ethics actually says about income
• How the savior complex shows up financially in our profession
• Why struggling financially is not solidarity with our clients
• Why social workers policing each other's salaries is a form of self-oppression
• Why financial stability is important for us and the people we serve

Resources mentioned:

• "The Obligation of White Women: Dismantling White Supremacy Culture in Social Work Education"
• Doin' the Work Podcast: White Supremacy Culture in Social Work

Connect with us!

• Social Work to Wealth CE Updates — CE only updates
• Social Work to Wealth Newsletter — Get updates on money resources, events, salaries, and more straight to your inbox
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