Skaana 🫍 One Ocean – Details, episodes & analysis

Talking Trump vs. science, facts and the planet with Dr. Andrew Rosenberg.  The former director of the Center for Science and Democracy at the Union of Concerned Scientists and former director of NOAA on Project 2025, popping social media bubbles and why it is so friggin’ important that Americans vote… And not for Trump. “Whatever your issue is, should you be concerned? Yes! …This is not a time to sit it out.” On Project 2025: “It’s worse than you think it is. No matter how bad you think it is, it’s worse.”

Shownotes:

4:11 Andrew Rosenberg explains what the Union of Concerned Scientists is concerned about and how the focus shifted from weapons to using science to spin for politicians.

7:00 “Everyone will ask what are you concerned about… until Mr. Trump was elected and then nobody needed to ask that question anymore because it was pretty obvious what we were concerned about.”

8:00 Trump’s wasn’t the first administration to distort facts. “Everything that was talked about the facts became whatever Mr. Trump said they were at any given moment and that was not the same thing from one moment to the next. And in our current presidential campaign that’d gotten even worse.”

8:52 The futility of fact-checking when “everybody’s in their little bubbles in the social media age.”

11:06 Why the Trump administration kept losing their challenges in court and how Project 2025 will stop the courts from ignoring laws.

11:51 “We also leaned into the ideas that scientists can and should be much more active in the political process.” And the resistance to that…

16:45 How to challenge lies. What works, what doesn’t and why. “We’re not going to turn everybody into scientists.”

22:07 The impact of COVID and isolation on fact based reality.

23:10 “Anybody can say anything on social media.”

28:45 On Project 2025: “It’s worse than you think it is. No matter how bad you think it is, it’s worse.”

33:41 “President Trump was frustrated that people didn’t just do what he wanted.” ‘cause laws and consciences…

35:20 “It’s 900 pages long and covers every agency.” The end of NOAA… the end of science and research… and privatizing the weather service and…. yeah it’s worse…

37:00 Everybody becomes a political appointee…  You’re fired! “You would choose people based on their loyalty, not their expertise.”

39:15 Sharpiegate! How Trump moved a hurricane – so he could send money to a state he liked.

43:25 You can imagine what it will be like if he’s back in office. It will be worse… things will get a lot worse.”

44:00 “There’s no tethering to facts at all… it’s just whatever he happens to think about it at a given time.

48:04 BC water moving to California?

49:00 “I don’t believe he understands the sovereignty of other nations. Or cares.”

55:00 What you can do…

51:25 “Whatever your issue is, should you be concerned? Yes!”

51:52 “This is not a time to sit it out.”

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Andrew Rosenberg Support Our Guest

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• Octopus Ocean by Mark Leiren-Young
• Sharks Forever by Mark Leiren-Young
• Audiobooks by Mark Leiren-Young (Killer Whale Who Changed the World, Orcas Everywhere & Never Shoot a Stampede Queen) on Audible.com
• The Killer Whale Who Changed the World – print and e-book
• The Killer Whale Who Changed the World on Spotify
• Orcas Everywhere on Spotify
• Orcas Everywhere; Orcas of the Salish Sea & Big Whales, Small World 
• Paint the Ocean You Wish to See with Rayne Ellycrys Benu
• The Force of Doubt by Rayne Ellycrys Benu

 

Andrew Lewin – host of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast – on teaching the world about oceans, myth-busting fake facts and falling for the oceans from his home in Ontario. “This is what people should be talking about.”

Shownotes:

3:25 How Andrew Lewin fell for the oceans and marine biology.

5:18 The first time Andrew saw a whale.

6:47 Finding Flipper and falling for dolphins. “You have this sense of awe when you look at dolphins.” Can dolphins be, um, jerks?

8:45 Talking orcas – including the orcas who eat great white sharks.

11:20 The origin of How to Protect the Oceans podcast and the mission to educate.

17:20  “My why is just change somebody’s life.”

18:52 The challenge of fighting fake facts and junk science. “The goal is to inform.”

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• Sharks Forever by Mark Leiren-Young
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• The Killer Whale Who Changed the World – print and e-book
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• Orcas Everywhere on Spotify
• Orcas Everywhere; Orcas of the Salish Sea & Big Whales, Small World 
• Paint the Ocean You Wish to See with Rayne Ellycrys Benu
• The Force of Doubt by Rayne Ellycrys Benu

 

Filmmaker Gloria Pancrazi (Coextinction) talks with Skaana host Mark Leiren-Young about red herrings, fishy fish farms, whale watching, whale saving and Coextinction. “Orcas are telling us something. They’re showing us something. You can learn a lot about the things we’ve got to do in the world right now by looking at these orcas.”

Shownotes:

3:35 Meet Gloria Pancrazi and how the story of love for orcas turned into a mission to save the southern resident orcas.

6:12 “A lot of politicians like to blame whale watchers because then they can accept a pipeline that’s going to increase tanker traffic by seven- fold… you can go on and on about the impact of the Trans Mountain pipeline and how it’s going to impact southern resident orcas.”

8:38 “One of the biggest points of the movie is that everything is connected… it’s hard to pick one big issue.”

11:50 “It always fascinated us how the orcas are telling us something. They’s showing us something. You can learn a lot about the things we’ve got to do in the world right now by looking at these orcas.”

13:18 “They are each other’s home and we’re destroying that home.”

13:38 The first time she saw a whale:

15:35 Working for Cetus’s Straitwatch program in Canada and SoundWatch in the US and the challenges of keeping orcas safe from small boats.

22:04 Visiting OrcaLab. “It’s magical up there.”

25:28 The impacts of colonization and colonial trauma.

27:50 Where and how to see Coextinction.

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• Paint the Ocean You Wish to See with Rayne Ellycrys Benu… https://orcapaint.net
• The Force of Doubt by Rayne Ellycrys Benu… https://books2read.com/forceofdoubt

 

Cephalopod expert Danna Staaf (author of The Lady and the Octopus and Monarchs of the Sea) talks with Skaana host Mark Leiren-Young about the alien world of octopuses, the secret lives of squid and her two new books Nursery Earth: The Wondrous Lives of Baby Animals and the Extraordinary Ways They Shape Our World and The Lives of Octopuses and Their Relatives: A Natural History of Cephalopods. “They are definitely our fellow earthlings and some of the oddest ones we share the planet with.”

Shownotes:

3:20 Meet Danna Staaf. “They are extremely intelligent animals with extremely short life-spans.”

6:12 Meet Danna Staaf’s first pet octopus – Serendipity.

12:32 “There’s this tension between the alien and the familiar in them.” And octopus decor…

13:50 “They are definitely our fellow earthlings and some of the oddest ones we share the planet with.”

15:49 How and why cephalopods lost their shells.

22:15 The difference between octopus and squid. “Squid basically evolved for swimming and for speed.”

25:10 “Cephalopods are amazing.”

27:13 “These are real animals that inspired a lot of myths and legends.”

28:35 “Squid are like the protein bars of the oceans.”

31:30 Squid squads!

32:36 Baby animals doot doot doot doot – Danna Staff’s new baby book!

34:31 “At any given moment, most of the animals on earth are babies… I find all of them to be adorable in their own ways.”

41:20 Her favourite odd octopus facts… donut brains!

42:17 “I love asking what if questions about nature and about science.”

44:20 How humans are threatening octopuses and the health of the oceans.

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Danna Staff Author Photo – credit Josh Weaver Support Our Guest

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• Orcas Everywhere; Orcas of the Salish Sea & Big Whales, Small World: http://www.orcaseverywhere.com
• Paint the Ocean You Wish to See with Rayne Ellycrys Benu… https://orcapaint.net
• The Force of Doubt by Rayne Ellycrys Benu… https://books2read.com/forceofdoubt

 

Jason Colby (author of Orca: How We Came to Know and Love the Ocean’s Greatest Predator) talks with Skaana host Mark Leiren-Young about the capture of Toki/Tokitae/Lolita/Sk’aliCh’elh-tenaut and how Penn Cove almost ended the southern resident orcas and was the beginning of the end of the capture era. “It’s worth remembering that the argument at the time, if there could have been a debate at the time, it was really between whale catching and whale shooting, not whale catching and whale watching.”

Shownotes:

0:00 The voice of Toki.

4:08 Jason Colby on writing the book – or at least a very long chapter of his book – on Penn Cove.

6:05 “They eventually capture virtually all of these orcas behind nets. They estimate at the time around 90 individuals… The estimates vary but almost certainly the entire population of the Southern residents.”

7:43 “It’s worth remembering that the argument at the time, if there could have been a debate at the time, it was really between whale catching and whale shooting, not whale catching and whale watching.”

8:50 “Once they rounded them up, 90 to 100 animals, if Ted Griffin and his company would have wanted to and would have had the market to sell all 90 of them they could have done that. If they had wanted to shoot them all in the nets, they could have done that. There may have been a firearms violation, but there would be no sort of conservation law violation.”

10:30 “This must have been horrifically traumatic for these pods to be torn apart.”

11:20 How activists trying to free the orcas accidentally kill four baby orcas.

12:20 Hiding the bodies… “Whether it was illegal or not, it looks like a murder scene.”

14:20 Is Toki really L Pod or did she learn how to speak L Pod from Hugo in Miami?

20:04 “It was a generational loss.”

21:20 “If Griffin had done what the fisherman who was helping him demanded – which is to sell all of them all – you could have seen the entire population of Southern residents extinguished before we had even identified them scientifically as a population.”

23:00 How to help orcas today and the problems humans are creating for orcas today.

26:04 Toki talks.

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Jason Colby from Mark Leiren-Young’s award-winning documentary The Hundred Year-Old Whale Support Our Guest

• Orca: How We Came to Know and Love the Ocean’s Greatest Predator 

•  Biography: https://www.uvic.ca/humanities/history/people/faculty/profiles/colbyjason.php
• Twitter or X or whatever: https://twitter.com/jasoncolby2?lang=en   Photo from the Penn Cove capture: Comment: Remembering Tokitae: The last southern resident orca in captivity

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• Orcas Everywhere; Orcas of the Salish Sea & Big Whales, Small World: http://www.orcaseverywhere.com
• Paint the Ocean You Wish to See with Rayne Ellycrys Benu… https://orcapaint.net
• The Force of Doubt by Rayne Ellycrys Benu… https://books2read.com/forceofdoubt

 

Howard Garrett (Orca Network) remembering the southern resident orca Toki/Tokitae/Lolita/Sk’aliCh’elh-tenaut and his nearly thirty year fight to bring Toki home to the Salish Sea. “Toki’s legacy is building, building, building by the day… She wasn’t just a circus animal. She was a member of the southern residents.”

Shownotes:

0:00 The voice of Toki.
4:57 How Howard started fighting to bring Toki home

7:50 “I really feel like she would have thrived and been thrilled and so relieved to be in her familiar waters.”

14:16 A superpod wake for Toki?

15:55 The Lummi Nation’s fight for Toki.

20:05  The origins of Toki’s names and becoming Sk’aliCh’elh-tenaut.

21:44 “Her tank violated the very dismal standard of the animal welfare act…”

30:15 Getting the news that she was gone.

34:00 Toki’s legacy.

43:00 Toki speaks.

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Howard Garrett at a marine conference in Vancouver in 2017 Support Our Guest

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• Howard Garrett meeting Skaana host Mark Leiren-Young in happier times at a conference in 2017 in Vancouver. A story by Mark about Toki in The Times Colonist: Comment: Remembering Tokitae: The last southern resident orca in captivity

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• The Killer Whale Who Changed the World… http://amzn.to/2pRNU1q
• Orcas Everywhere; Orcas of the Salish Sea & Big Whales, Small World: http://www.orcaseverywhere.com
• Paint the Ocean You Wish to See with Rayne Ellycrys Benu… https://orcapaint.net
• The Force of Doubt by Rayne Ellycrys Benu… https://books2read.com/forceofdoubt

 

Author and biologist Rowena Rae on swimming with salmon, threats to this essential species and their incredible resilience with Skaana host Mark Leiren-Young. “Salmon can thrive if we just give them a chance… if people would just get out of the way, they can thrive”.

Shownotes:

3:54 On becoming a biologist and leaving biology for writing.
7:12 Introducing young readers to the story of Rachel Carson.

9:20 Introducing Rachel Carson and the importance of Silent Spring.

12:20 Swimming with salmon.

14:07 Keystone species and why they matter.

  Humans Vs. Salmon; almost everything eats salmon  — salmon as “eco-system engineers”.

23:44 How to save Chinook salmon.

26:09 The fish farm jail-break in Washington State.

28:50 On the resilience of nature and salmon, and why to have hope. “They’re tenacious, they hang on … salmon can thrive if we just give them a chance”.

31:30 How we can help salmon.

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Rowena Rae – author of Salmon: Swimming for Survival

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• Rowena Rae, Mark Leiren-Young & Nicole F. Smith reading at the Royal BC Museum – Oceans Week 2023

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•   Orcas Everywhere; Orcas of the Salish Sea & Big Whales, Small World: http://www.orcaseverywhere.com 
• Paint the Ocean You Wish to See with Rayne Ellycrys Benu… https://orcapaint.net
•   The Force of Doubt by Rayne Ellycrys Benu… https://books2read.com/forceofdoubt

 

Shark expert Alessandro De Maddalena talks with Skaana host Mark Leiren-Young about hunting for the perfect shark photo, the two orcas who are hunting great white sharks in South African waters, what makes great whites great and so much more! “The reason I love sharks is that they are a perfect art form. I consider Mother Nature the greatest artist.”

Shownotes:

4:22 How Alessandro De Maddalena fell for sharks as a kid and why sharks are cooler than dinosaurs.
9:00 Why he thinks the great white is great: “the first time I was watching a great white underwater it was magic… The reason I love sharks is that they are a perfect art form. I consider Mother Nature the greatest artist.” 13:10 Perfect predators and perfect book titles. 17:01 How little sharks care about humans. “Sharks care very little about humans. In most cases they don’t care at all.” 21:40 “The fear was born with Jaws…” 27:50 “People like to be afraid. People like monsters. People also like to create monsters.” 28:44 Leading Great White Shark expeditions. 33:40 His three best moments with sharks. 37:15 The truth behind the orcas attacking sharks in South Africa. No they are not a major threat to the great white shark population! Skaana podcasts connect you to news and experts and their discussions about environments, oceans, and orcas.

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Alessandro De Maddalena

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• Official website: https://www.sharkmuseum.net/ 

• Mediterranean Great White Sharks. by Alessandro De Maddalena & Walter Heim

• Great White Sharks in United States Museums. by Alessandro De Maddalena & Walter Heim

• Sharks of New England. by Alessandro De Maddalena & Walter Heim

• Sharks of the Pacific Northwest. by Alessandro De Maddalena, Antonella Preti & Tarik Polansky

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•   The Force of Doubt by Rayne Ellycrys Benu… https://books2read.com/forceofdoubt

 

Alessandro De Maddalena image – featured in Mark Leiren-Young’s book Sharks Forever

Sean Holman @Seanholman founder and lead of the Climate Disaster Project @cdp_community talks with Skaana host Mark Leiren-Young @leirenyoung about the past and future of the media’s climate coverage, fighting fires with facts and sharing stories to save the future.

Shownotes:

5:00 Welcome Sean Holman. Why he challenged journalists to do better in their climate coverage.
10:57 The challenge of news cycles moving faster than science 15:10 “There is a lot that we can individually do about combat climate change creating collective action around that. as an example In the United States if everyone switched from eating beef to beans the United States would have actually met the greenhouse gas targets that were set by Obama.” 16:34 ““Almost all of us are climate disaster survivors in one way shape or form but many of us are also perpetrators of climate change as well in our individual lives.” 17:01 Climate impact on the oceans. 21:53 Climate impact on the economy 23:44 How the smoke from the 2017 BC Wildfire season changed the way he saw the world 26:40 The origins of the Climate Disaster Project and the importance of creating community 29:33 What gives Sean Holman hope Skaana podcasts connect you to news and experts and their discussions about environments, oceans, and orcas.

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• The Tyee https://thetyee.ca/News/2023/06/16/Surviving-In-Their-Own-Words/

• Fraser Valley Current https://fvcurrent.com/p/profiles-climate-disaster-project/

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Jonathan Mesulam @MesulamJonathan Founder and Coordinator of the West Coast Development Foundation in New Guinea talks with Skaana host Mark Leiren-Young @leirenyoung about the crucial fight to stop Deep Sea Mining in his home – New Guinea – and around the world.

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5:00 Welcome to Jonathan Mesulam
10:00 The importance of the church in fighting sea bed mining in New Guinea 12:20 Calling out Canada for allowing Canadian companies to mine in the waters off other countries 14:49 “No one knows the risk.” 16:23 On displacing communities. “If the sea is destroyed where are people going to get food?” 21:40 On leaving teaching to fight for the oceans. 25:12 “This fight is not really about us, it’s about everyone.” 27:00 All the places the sign we carried has traveled. 28:32 What he’d like Canadians to do. “We’re looking at the Pacific Ocean and it’s connecting you and me.Any activity on the Pacific Ocean is going to affect your coastline as well. The sea has no boundary… Canadians really need to speak up… Canadians should say no to sea bed mining… This project is a Canadian initiation.” Skaana podcasts connect you to news and experts and their discussions about environments, oceans, and orcas.

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