🎙 Second Verse – Because it’s never too late to make music.
Are you an indie artist or creative dreaming of a second chance at your music career? Second Verse is the podcast that celebrates independent musicians, singer-songwriters, and artists who got started—or started again—after a more traditional career.
Join host Becky Boyland, a singer-songwriter and music branding expert, as she interviews indie artists who prove that success isn’t just for the young and major-label backed. Each episode dives into real-life stories of artists navigating their second verse in music—overcoming fears, finding their audience, and making their creative dreams a reality.
💡 What You’ll Get:
✅ Inspiring stories from independent musicians who took the leap
✅ Actionable tips for pursuing your music career at any stage
✅ Branding and marketing insights to grow your audience
✅ Motivation to finally take that next step toward your dream
No matter where you are on your musical journey, Second Verse will help you feel seen, supported, and ready to take action. Subscribe now, leave a review, and visit secondversepod.com to submit your story, connect on social media, and start your own Second Verse.
🎶 Your dream is still waiting—let’s make music.
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Just Start: How David Rosen Built a Life in Music, Podcasting, and "The Pup Pups"
Season 1 · Episode 14
Tuesday, June 10, 2025 • Duration 51:34
From Vinyl to Film Scores: How David Rosen Found His Musical Calling
In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland chats with David Rosen, a versatile indie artist whose journey spans from growing up in a family-owned record store to producing rap music, composing film scores, and creating comedy rock about his pets. David shares the importance of letting one creative endeavor fuel another, and reveals insights into building long-term collaborative relationships. From using different DAWs to making movie-inspired music and creating eclectic projects like The Pup Pups, David's story is a testament to stacking your passions wherever they lead. Tune in for an inspiring conversation packed with actionable advice for any indie artist.
01:32 Welcoming David and Early Musical Influences
02:41 Discovering a Passion for Music
03:48 Early Musical Ventures
10:50 Transition to Film Scoring
20:00 The Pup Pups: A Unique Musical Project
25:04 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity
26:25 Sponsor: Singing / Straw
27:22 Music Videos and Collaborations
28:35 Upcoming Album and Projects
35:47 Podcasting Journey
43:11 Advice for Independent Artists
44:04 Final Thoughts and Connecting with David
46:34 The Coda
47:47 Featured Song: "How to Start a Fire" by David Rosen
Singing His Song: Phil Lovell’s Journey from Welsh Classrooms to Songwriting
Season 1 · Episode 13
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 • Duration 54:36
Phil Lovell: From Classroom to Songwriting - A Journey of Creativity and Persistence
In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland chats with Phil Lovell, a retired teacher turned songwriter who crafts thoughtful songs in English and Welsh. Phil shares his journey from nurturing his musical passion quietly while working in education for over 30 years to diving fully into songwriting and performing after retirement. They discuss Phil’s creative process, the impact of music on culture, the challenges of self-promotion, and the importance of pursuing one’s passion at any stage in life. Phil’s story emphasizes that creativity deepens with time and offers inspiration for anyone who thinks they’ve missed their chance. Stay tuned for his energetic Welsh song, 'Dw i’n canu fy nghân.'
Grief, Neurodivergence, and Healing: Bob Strachan’s Musical Revival
Season 1 · Episode 4
Tuesday, April 1, 2025 • Duration 57:42
Bob Strachan's Musical Resurgence: Healing Through Songwriting and Rediscovery
In this episode of 'Second Verse,' host Becky Boyland interviews Bob Strachan, an award-winning singer-songwriter from Scotland. Bob shares his journey of returning to music during the lockdown after initial success in the 2000s. He discusses his upbringing amidst diverse musical influences, experiences of personal loss, and how music has been a pivotal tool for healing and reconnecting with his roots. Bob opens up about dealing with grief over his father's death, his experiences with cult-like churches, and his diagnosis of neurodivergence. His journey highlights the transformative power of music and the importance of embracing one’s story and creativity. Becky and Bob also touch on the evolving music industry, the impact of creativity on education, and the significance of being not only skilled but also good to be around.
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Producing Music for All: Jack Marchant’s Music Journey
Season 1 · Episode 3
Tuesday, March 25, 2025 • Duration 53:34
Jack Marchant: The Power of Persistence and Community in Music Production
In this episode of the Second Verse podcast, host Becky Boyland interviews London-based music producer Jack Marchant. They discuss his journey from childhood experiences in music studios with his dad's band to overcoming physical health challenges and making a full-time career in music production. Key topics include the importance of community, the reality of building a sustainable music career, and the value of mentorship. Jack shares insights on the struggle of pricing work fairly, the significance of authenticity in music, and the role of social media in connecting with fans. The episode closes with Jack emphasizing his personal slogan, 'Music for all, no matter the journey,' and offering practical advice for aspiring artists and producers.
07:24 The Importance of Community and Mental Health
09:36 Navigating the Music Industry
11:10 Challenges and Advice for Aspiring Artists
16:06 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity
17:29 An Exchange of Value
19:42 Jack's Health Struggles and Full-Time Music Career
24:12 Overcoming Vocal Challenges
From Porch Dreams to Songwriting: Rose Calkins' Second Act
Season 1 · Episode 2
Tuesday, March 18, 2025 • Duration 49:59
In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland explores the inspirational journey of Rose Calkins, a singer-songwriter, published author, and artist, whose life is a testament to resilience, creativity, and faith. Rose shares how she balanced practical responsibilities with her artistic passions, drawing from early influences like theater and family music traditions. The conversation delves into pivotal moments, such as joining a songwriting class during the uncertain times of 2020, which reignited her musical dreams. With insights on overcoming fear, embracing community, and managing a multi-faceted creative career, Rose’s story is a motivating guide for indie artists. The episode also includes a discussion on the importance of having a clear online presence for promoting music and concludes with Rose's heartfelt song, 'Pictures in Motion.'
Pursuing Passion: From Tech to Music with Rick Molloy
Season 1 · Episode 1
Tuesday, March 11, 2025 • Duration 57:54
In this episode of Second Verse, Becky interviews Rick Molloy, a tech veteran turned full-time musician. Rick shares his inspiring journey of leaving a two-decade-long career in tech to pursue his passion for music. He discusses his transition, challenges, and the triumphs of creating a career in the arts. The conversation dives into Rick's experiences in both industries, his custom guitar business, the importance of community, and the transformative power of music and collaboration. Listeners will be motivated by Rick's story of resilience, community-building, and doing what they love.
It’s Never Too Late for Your Music Dream—Introducing Second Verse
Tuesday, March 4, 2025 • Duration 06:46
Second Chances: Embracing Your Musical Dreams
In this introductory episode of 'Second Verse,' host Becky Boyland, a singer-songwriter with extensive experience in marketing and brand messaging, invites listeners to rekindle their musical aspirations. Becky talks about the journey from treating music as a hobby to making it a significant part of life. She shares stories of other indie musicians who have made similar transitions from traditional careers to follow their passion for music. Additionally, Becky offers tips and insights to help artists grow their audience and achieve their dreams. The episode concludes with an inspiring new song, 'One More Word,' to encourage listeners to take the next step toward their musical goals.
00:00 Introduction: Following Your Dream
00:39 Meet Your Host: Becky Boyland
01:00 Weekly Stories and Tips
01:25 Upcoming Episodes Preview
01:46 Real Talk: Challenges and Tools
02:07 Encouragement and Connection
02:22 Subscribe and Connect
02:58 Musical Inspiration: "One More Word"
Featured Song:
“One More Word” by Becky Boyland is written by Becky Boyland. Used with permission.
"One More Word" will be available wherever you stream your music on March 14, 2025. Check it out at the song's share page.
Building Momentum: The Art of Saying Yes with Music Mentor Greig Watts
Season 1 · Episode 12
Tuesday, May 27, 2025 • Duration 49:25
Finding Success by Saying Yes: Greig Watts' Journey from Banking to Hit Songwriting
In this episode of the Second Verse podcast, host Becky Boyland interviews Greig Watts, a music publisher and songwriting mentor who transitioned from a career in banking to co-founding DWB Music. Watts shares his inspiring journey of pursuing his passion for music, the importance of mentorship, and the power of saying 'yes' to opportunities. He discusses developing and guiding songwriters, the significance of being accountable, and how to keep the creative spark alive. Greig's story is a testament to the courage needed to follow your dreams and the rewards that come from perseverance and open-mindedness.
Chris Evans of AudioGust: Why It’s Time to Start, Ship, and Repeat
Season 1 · Episode 11
Tuesday, May 20, 2025 • Duration 01:02:42
Hooky Anthems and Disenchanted Optimists: Chris Evans Finds Joy in Music's Second Act
Join host Becky Boyland on the Second Verse podcast as she chats with Chris Evans, an alt/indie rock artist, songwriter, and producer known as AudioGust. Dive into Chris's fascinating journey from '80s rock bands to a successful software career and back to music. Learn how he built his own soundproof studio, released over three dozen songs, and collaborates with artists worldwide. Chris shares valuable insights on balancing logic and heart, finding creative joy, and approaching music with a blend of precision and play. Discover how Chris handles writer’s block, his perspective on perfectionism, and the importance of community in music. Perfect for indie artists and creatives ready to find their Second Verse in music.
Healing Through Music: Overcoming Vocal Trauma with Guest Whitney Nichole
In this deeply personal episode, host Becky Boyland shares her compelling journey of overcoming vocal trauma following major spine surgery. Initially facing the terrifying possibility of never singing again due to a paralyzed vocal cord, Becky describes the emotional and physical challenges she faced. She highlights the pivotal role of vocal coach Whitney Nichole, who introduced Becky to transformative techniques like straw phonation. Together, they worked meticulously to rebuild her voice, ultimately leading Becky to new vocal heights. This episode is a testament to perseverance, hope, and the power of music to heal. Tune in to hear this inspiring story and Becky's latest single, “Loving You.”
08:05 Searching for Solutions and the Start of the Journey Back
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